Michael Saylor on Bitcoin crash, Luna/Terra Meltdown, inflation, market selloff and BTC Spot ETF

Michael Saylor is an American entrepreneur, executive, inventor, author, and philanthropist. He is the Chairman and CEO of MicroStrategy (MSTR), a publicly traded business intelligence firm he founded in 1989. Michael is an advocate for the Bitcoin Standard www.hope.com and is the first CEO of a publicly listed company to make a long-term investment in Bitcoin. He founded and serves as the trustee for the Saylor Academy www.saylor.org a non-profit organization that provides free education to nearly one million students.
Record date: 5/11/2022
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Producer: Aron Bender
#bitcoin #cryptocurrency #money
Timecodes:
00:00 Promo codes
01:59 Reaction to markets
11:25 Inflationary environment
17:24 Supply of currency will continue to expand
24:20 Biggest surprise over last 2 years
24:55 MicroStrategy's Bitcoin strategy
27:26 Debt vs. leverage buying BTC
40:21 Betting against MicroStrategy
45:07 Luna and Terra meltdown
49:00 SEC regulation, spot ETF
52:48 Why approve futures but not spot?
54:28 Fold app break
55:07 How do we get to $1m BTC
1:05:50 What's the world like under Bitcoin Standard?
1:14:21 Will BTC regulate wealth concentration?
1:16:58 How has Bitcoin changed Michael Saylor?
1:19:10 Mike Novagratz's Luna tattoo, final thoughts

[@24erstad]

Listening to Saylor talk about BTC is therapeutic. Bitcoin ASMR

[@24erstad]

@@jonp.1084 lol

[@_nils]

:D hahaha. nice one.

[@knglos12]

So true

[@welcomewoodworking2181]

SIMP

[@TheRustyLM]

Haha! Spoken like a true cult member🤣

[@LawrenceAbramoff]

Thank you Natalie. I can't wait to watch this rather than treat it as a podcast. Congrats on getting Michael Saylor on your show!

[@morrissey8485]

True character is exposed when the chips are down. Michael is a legend!

[@jayangli]

Does he remind you of a film star??

[@MikeStillUK]

Thanks Natalie for bringing us this!! Legend

[@PianoWrecker]

@@tf1639 is going on a walk today to get her

[@jsfranks840]

Michael Saylor gets it. His views on the macro environment are insightful. Thanks Natalie for bring this to us. Great value!

[@landline00]

😂 Using leverage to buy crypto??!!! Yeah, he gets how to get wrecked & go broke.

[@alyem5529]

@@landline00 let’s see who laughs in 5-10 years.

[@landline00]

@@alyem5529 But if all the big institutions are buying because they know it's going to infinity why does it keep going down? Richard Hart says that you're all in late and that the high last year was an S- adoption curve. Every prediction that he has made about Bitcoin has come true and every prediction that Michael Saylor has made has not come true.

[@edwardcui7535]

@@landline00 25:15 you’re exactly like what michael saylor says people like you are. You don’t have the patience or knowledge to actually read and understand what’s really happening. You fall for the fake info the trolls spew out and you in turn become a troll. I’ve done you the service of directing you to the part where all of your assumptions are proven false, which is definitely more than you deserve. But, as i know you probably have a short attention span you probably won’t even bother fixing the gaps in your knowledge anyway

[@del7i540]

Michael Saylor is brilliant in that he knows so many fools will buy the bullshit so if he doesn't sell it, someone else will. The peasant class isn't too bright.

[@AC-vp4ss]

I learned so much! Thank you both for everything you’ve done and do for Bitcoin and for me.

[@regal360com]

Saylor is a national treasure. Love that man.

[@FirstTimeHigh-cz2ro]

Yea he’s actually a Ponzi scheme absolute psycho path. It blows my mind how these bitcoiners share your opinion. Do you know of his past? He was voted #1 loser in the .com boom. Why isn’t he screaming for you all to buy the dip? Yet screamed for everyone to buy at $60k?? Bitcoin is dead. $69,000.00 was the highest it will EVER be.

[@CommanderRiker0]

@@FirstTimeHigh-cz2ro Remember when Saylor was telling people to buy Bitcoin at the top on credit cards and taking mortgages? He wiped out thousands and thousands of people

[@PoboyMusic]

@@CommanderRiker0 he also said it was going to zero in 2013

[@patrickt873]

Losing money gambling is a national treasure?. Well we have Biden and Yellan so sure why not ...funny

[@dy2cakc1]

If in doubt, follow Saylor.

[@momentumcharting6700]

Finally an interviewer that doesn’t talk over Michael half the time. Great job and very insightful. Thanks!

[@xilophompilo]

Michael rocking the best background possible for a bitcoin think tanker. the bitcoin enlightened dude symbology. I see what you are doing, Michael. I see what you are doing.

[@ericwilson2632]

🥰

[@didactica9326]

What is that?

[@xilophompilo]

@@didactica9326 this is a bitcoin full node sculpture behind him. posing with your head in front of a circle is the symbology of a halo, which means "enlightened". he is using concepts of connotative art/design applied to his persona. I would bet money that this isn't out of luck, but a carefully thought brand construction. he is presenting himself as a bitcoin authority without using words trying to convince you.

[@didactica9326]

@@xilophompilo ah. Thank you.

[@kbrown611]

Blended with brick and mortar…

[@Daniel-Six]

Great interview. Saylor has definitely softened his tone since his interview with Lex Fridman, but to his credit, he maintains a consistent narrative.

[@radhacarana4890]

A pleasure to watch.... Thank you Natalie

[@derekjohnson4348]

Natalie does her homework and asks insightful questions

[@Cryptokent]

This is the only person that understands this stuff thanks Michael! Why does this video only have 3400 view ridiculous

[@didactica9326]

Ridiculous indeed. KZbin is good at burying the truth

[@rolandopaiz7305]

Awesome responses by Michael Saylor and great questions by Natalie. Really great !! Bitcoin is the future and this shake out will be good in the long run

[@rolandopaiz7305]

And Natalie you look really good in this interview and always when I hear about you. Great to have you on bitcoin team. Keep it up

[@user-dp6yc3wp2j]

Very good questions without interruptions. Very good answers. It makes an amazing interview. Well done 👏🏻. Thank you

[@impex500]

Thank you. Great show

[@RawandCookedVegan]

Excellent interview. Thank You.

[@slim7934]

Two Goats 🐐

[@idiossinkrasia]

Saylor making sense of it all! Excellent interview!!!

[@forthehomies7043]

Listening to Saylor talk about Bitcoin is one of the most intriguing things I’ve come across as a young man. And God help us Natalie is so incredibly beautiful and intelligent

[@user-gr8lc9ol6y]

БРАВО НАТАЛИЯ,БРАВО БРЮНЕЛ,КРАСИВА И УМНА,ПОЗДРАВИ ОТ БЪЛГАРИЯ!!!

[@mikekron6968]

@ 25:00 minutes GREAT question.... Awesome interview & from someone in the dental industry... Nice appearing white teeth etc!!!! Great interview a sa person holding MSTR & BTC & GBTC. Thank you

[@dek2000utube]

GREAT interview! Thank you both!

[@pierogalante7734]

Grazie Natalie

[@thesilverphist6483]

good questioning natalie

[@sluggo3slug]

Please Natalie, start a parallell channel on Rumble too

[@ReVoltAgefilms]

Fantastic interview, great questions.

[@MikeStillUK]

Fortunes are made in bear markets

[@izecold1582]

Over time Fiat Erases the Energy of Physical Events like Work. BITCOIN multiplies the Energy of the Physical exponentially. I like to think about this way - Fiat: 8 hours of work over 10 years = -8 hours of work. BTC: 8 hours of work = 800 hours of work in 10 years.

[@thomasfrancisoconnell8161]

Does Michael Saylor take into account an improved Bitcoin like crypto which could compete with Bitcoin.

[@-ull3972]

I loooove the Saint Saylor look.

[@BatmanBoss]

Great job excellent interview Nat 💪

[@robertmontoya1]

Wow. GOLDEN interview ✨ 💛

[@klausmitVerstand]

Three thumbs up. Thanks from Berlin.

[@Mondegreen2020]

Please get Schiff & Saylor on together. 🙏🏻 Pleeeaaassse. 😆

[@YazidLife.]

Thank you ))

[@barito7]

Mr Saylor believes that Bitcoin is undervalued. If so, is he buying more bitcoin? Questions re. leverage and fundamentals of MSTR is to Mr Saylor's own yardstick of BTC immaterial. Whether he is buying BTC now is the most important question.

[@jimh3267]

Yes... he is buying... as he stated he recently borrowed to purchase more, at a higher price... and he will continue to purchase more.

[@jurgen1716]

Wow. More bullish than ever. Thank you for educating. Only hard thing is patience when looking at price chart for confirmation, Conviction helps but would like some more tips.

[@OlympischbriesjeNadaAverage]

I don't know about other nations, but as a MBA student, working for financial institutions I 100% going to invest in Bitcoin, within my current salary or I start an institution for it.

[@voswouter87]

You advertised for Fold, but this is also VISA. Is it owned by VISA or just compatible with their payment system? Does Fold comply with SDG?

[@MrMojorisenLK]

I had a thought. Even if there's a finite source of Bitcoin. As long as people are buying it with fiat money. The value of Bitcoin can indefinitely inflate right?

[@sawdustcrypto3987]

Yes. A better way to put it might be "Because bitcoin has a finite supply, it will continue to increase in value forever when compared to fiat currency." This of course assumes the number of Bitcoin holders doesn't decrease

[@dquin2932]

Awesome thanks

[@benoitlambert1318]

I want to know about the Bitcoin clock behind Michael...

[@A.1.2.K]

Awesome 😎

[@abhipatil4844]

Good one

[@leslieguinn6157]

That was a Great! interview. Thank you..🧡🧡👏👍🤠🗽🦅🚀♾️

[@TheEmpireAnimations]

Thanks

[@scottharper568]

Great analysis and articulation of his beliefs. Thanks for that.

[@StephenLee529]

You asked great questions and Michael did a great job of explaining what he’s doing with BTC.

[@Treesatthelake]

Solid. Thank you so much!

[@rvbzero7]

solid bullshit

[@anonymousAJ]

Bitcoin is trading at a steep but decreasing premium over face value. Do you think it will stabilize at par?

[@BatmanBoss]

Thanks buddy

[@daddy-fat-sack3218]

I’m here for the boat, got the sombrero

[@boq81]

When can we purchase the 'Mikey-Coin'!? 😉 ✅

[@muttleyZZZ]

Saylor looks cool as f*ck in that giant sombrero hat!👍🏼

[@Spacenow869]

There was good energy between those two Nice and easy to listen.

[@jeebus6263]

2:30 right... and "inflation is transitory"!

[@Pwwh0711]

Hmmm my first thought on the weighty issues at hand while watching this vid is....who the Hell did that pointing on that brickwork?!

[@_nils]

"How has Bitcoin changed Michael Saylor?" was such a good question! The answer touches me. I feel the same :) I love your work Natalie, keep on!

[@AronBenderMedia]

Same!

[@matthewworth954]

My two favorite people in this entire market. So. Damn. Good.

[@anonymousAJ]

If Russia buying gold for 5000rub/g is a destabilizing factor for Bitcoin, what does that suggest about likely US currency post dollar distress?

[@georgemavrides3434]

The btc crash was due to panic caused by the Luna reserve dump in such short time.

[@christianl.120]

¡¡Gracias guapa!!

[@Harshtongya]

Natalie been flirting in the end! 🧐

[@regularbob]

I always love Natalie’s interviews! So talented! Michael Saylor is a G💯🔥Natalie, you should interview Greg Mannarino. He has a big following on here and he is a former 20 year Wall Street veteran trader and bitcoin bull. He has a lot of personality. Very colorful. Anyways, thanks for this one! I am listening now🔥

[@juanromero1661]

Every time I feel anxiety I watch a Michael Saylor interview. HODL ON!

[@stickermigtigger]

Hey Michael! Do you have an estimated ETA when MSTR will reach zero?

[@michaelb9940]

YES in fact I do. Its going to be exactly on this day 2280. Any other questions?

[@Brandon-yr9jb]

When date in my lambo?

[@mikev7355]

I am buying every sat I can while it's on sale!!!!

[@AronBenderMedia]

Such great insight from both Natalie and Saylor! Thank you!

[@soluschristus8360]

Love the halo!

[@rickymicky272]

So many ads. So annoying. Can’t forward to a part of the video w/o getting hit with two consecutive ads.

[@d7r_tv]

As always Saylor making sense of the world.

[@iansuncoast]

None sense more like

[@realdata8624]

natalie, what about gold you say?

[@JacobSilverdal]

Michael Saylor can preach forever.

[@easemailboxes]

Its not a wall plate.... its a halo.

[@viviangall1786]

After 12 years of everything possible being thrown at Bitcoin it's still at $30,000. In that time nothing has compromised or undermined the fundamentals. Any price drop has come from outside factors (exchanges, inflation, war, pandemic, fear, etc.) It's not going anywhere

[@bobbygunz9254]

It’s meaningful outside of price because more than ever we have so many asking “what’s the point of crypto”? Or “are there any use cases?” Yes. Terrible circumstances to prove it unfortunately but bitcoin has many use cases.

[@chris-pj7rk]

Imagine a multi billion dollar company going through what Bitcoin just went through… Bitcoin is built different sirs, people want it

[@LuisVargas-ih5vm]

@Gregory Feigenberg WOW!!!! How can i get to this person please?

[@BlueMax109]

Lol

[@jaspal1968]

I think I am liking Michael's halo 😇

[@Farazs94]

When btc is under 20K he will be also liquidated right ?

[@zeroism6036]

No. He stated in the interview that the price of liquidation is 3,5k. And on top of that, he has an additional 3 billion BTC to pledge to his present 1 billion in collateral. All is good mate.

[@labradore99]

What is that cool looking art behind Michael on the wall?

[@pickin6strangs]

Great interview Natalie. When I grow up I want to be like Michael Saylor.

[@Tripple_Threatt92]

She kept saying “highly leveraged” when the amount borrowed was 4%

[@hunterhemingway]

I know I questioned whether she was actually actively listening or just holding headline points to ask hot questions.

[@wewewe1977]

Saylor is the fucking man, makes complex issues simple.

[@lifeinruralthailand]

Been waiting for this!

[@madgreek4533]

Tucker is correct...eloquently and technically correct.... Well done....

[@luckent47]

i'm so glad youre in this space. keep it coming

[@favpleasure]

Stacking sats with mike

[@latigo66]

Crushed it!

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

I do believe Saylor's VIDEOS move the bitcoin market by itself. Im going back into bitcoin when it reaches $20K... it will fly back up soon after.

[@El_Hexicano]

June 1st is when the fed is going to raise rates to another .5% so yeah it’ll go below 25k this time

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

@@El_Hexicano Yes... it'll reach $20K... but I think from the adoption rate, that THIS TIME will be the last time it will be this low. It is the last time it seems to acquire one whole bitcoin, for most regular people, then pay it off by borrowing against it, and watch it reach $150K in the next 18 months.

[@Andrew-zf1xj]

No man on earth is braver & stronger than Saylor. He is the best cutodian of DeFi we have to strive for in this digital revolution. We first gen will never forget how we went through.. Thank You. Natalie Brunell & Michael Saylor.

[@robertrobert6665]

Patience is a virtue! Just stack and HODL and the world will come to you.

[@ryanbaileyboxing]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mightynathaniel5355]

well spoken 👍 excellent conversation.

[@justina5588]

My mother told me not to get a tattoo 😂😂

[@anonymousAJ]

Why does Michael have a big gold coin behind him? Why not Bitcoin?

[@michealwilliam4072]

i have been making losses trying to make profit trading. I thought trading demo account is just like trading the real market... can anyone help me out or at least advise me on what to do?

[@jeremyhopkins7177]

trading with an expert is the best strategy for newbies and busy investors who have little or no time to monitor trade .

[@jeremyhopkins7177]

i will advice you should stop trading on your own if you keep losing and start trading with Mrs Katherine Miller trading services.

[@haleyharrison3144]

wow i'm shocked you just mentioned and recommended Mrs Katherine Miller i thought i'm the only one trading with her

[@jeremyhopkins7177]

you dont need to be shocked because i'm also a huge beneficiary of Mrs Katherine

[@jeremyhopkins7177]

She earned my trust since October last year, when my colleague got paid USD 15500 after investing About 2000

[@alui5362]

truth bomb after bomb after bomb. good one, nat and michael

[@ancientengineer1153]

Is that the bell thing from Mortal Kombat behind him? He is probably a ninja off screen. Oh I would get my hands on some Luna while crap coins like shiba enjoys a spot at top 20.

[@garyroey4445]

What % of btc in a microstrategy share, Can anyone help in this .

[@richardjones5475]

Roughly based on current market prices, about 196% BTC per share.

[@Europeangardens]

Looks like Michael is wearing a mexican sombrero