Michael Schumacher's endurance racing career

[@barkyonyx424b]

it's nice to see some cover on Schumi's sportscar career

[@saxoben34]

As a native german speaker I absolutely love the effort of pronunciation of the german names and not just saying Schuhmacker, like everyone else does ^^ great video

[@stijnpaspont]

I try to pronounce foreign names as intended so thank you!

[@evansmith2279]

As a non-native German speaker, ausgezeichnet!

[@amsterdamG2G]

@@stijnpaspont Good luck with the Japanese names 😅

[@GreatCornholio69]

I think he is from the south of the Netherlands or maybe Flemish, pronunciation is pretty similar to German. Dutch/Flemish is a German language. Just saying lol.

[@stijnpaspont]

@@GreatCornholio69 belgium/flanders is indeed the correct answer

[@AnimaDweller]

Schumacher's destiny was always going to be glory. Just like the best in motorporst in general, it really doesn't matter if for some reason he hadn't reach F1, he wouldve find success in any other series. That's why he's a Legend.

[@brolo7234]

In short, his short endurance career was pretty stellar, especially so as a junior competing against endurance veterans. And not to hate on Mazda, but the '91 24 hours was a clown show in the circus that was the "making WSC closer to F1" arc of motorsport. Schumacher and Mercedes deserved the win. Oh well, history is history. I am still sour about the death of Group C.

[@clicheguevara9917]

please elaborate on the 91 24h, thank you!

[@jeracerx]

@@clicheguevara9917 So what gets forgotten a lot is that Mazda didn't run the extra 100kg weight for whatever reason (some people say it's was bias towards Oreca because they built the car, others say it may have been because the Mazda cars always ran as IMSA GTPs at Le Mans, and not Group C), and the extra 100kg everyone else ran had a very detrimental effect on the car's drivability over time and reliability

[@brolo7234]

@@jeracerx You got it right. Mazda inadvertently received a lot of favoritism in 24 hrs of Le Mans despite performing horribly the entire season. They won by circumstances and a win is a win for sure, but it is a hard pill to swallow when you consider the context. Schumacher and the drivers of the C11 for '91 were leading Le Mans despite reliability problems and running the added ballast. They put on an absolute rockstar performance in spite of so many odds being stacked against them. But because Mazda won, history has been rewritten to inflate Mazda's underdog status and that it won completely out of merit and being a legendary earth shattering rotary that was so fast it was banned. Which is not only ridiculous, but flat out misinformation. That is one of the largest reasons why the Le Mans '91 was a clown show and why I think a lot of gloating surrounding Mazda"s win is just nauseating.

[@clicheguevara9917]

Thanks guys! Man, as a big schumi fan I'd have loved a lemans win on his resumee. Positive: the mazda is featured in racing games and it does Sound amazing

[@Milton_Valenzuela]

Sportscar racing has a similar feel to open-wheelers when it comes to chucking the car through corners Indycar drivers often take part in the Rolex 24 before their season starts. Very methodical to prepare for the big leagues

[@stijnpaspont]

Yeah the link between modern dpi and indycar can definitelly be made. For lmdh too as the acura will run the next gen indycar engine. As for the 3.5L group c cars they were still relativelly more bulky and heavier to drive but the xjr14 for example could perfectly qualify at the back of an F1 grid. They were insane

[@aojracing4885]

@@stijnpaspont These 3.5L cars don't get the same love as classic Group C, but they were quite impressive and a weird mix between sportscar and open wheeler. They're like the logical evolution of the "fendered" Mercedes W196 F1 car from the 50's.

[@stijnpaspont]

@@aojracing4885 yeah the 787b and porsche's get all the praise. But the last gen, even if they were doomed to fail and end the category, were pretty damn special

[@kinger41]

@@aojracing4885 The XJR-14 literally never gets mentioned as well, and that's one of my favorite Group C cars ever!

[@thethirdman225]

@@kinger41 The Porsche 956 and 962 rate even less love.🙄

[@Gambit8319]

Great mini-docu... always wanted to know more about Michael's stint in sport cars... Great info and insight, thanks a lot for the work

[@stijnpaspont]

Thank you!

[@Demetris.Yiokkas]

Wonderful memories from the WEC Group C era! Schumi was the up and coming dynamite back then. At first I personally thought Wendlinger and Frentzen were going to be the future stars of F1 but we all soon found out that Michael had that EXTRA SPECIAL charisma.

[@bfapple]

Mark Webber also drove for Merc in 1999, before moving back into single seaters.

[@diegocraigdallie]

Finally!!! I've been looking for a video like this for so long! Great job!

[@potatogirlcultist19]

8:26 That has to be one of the biggest FIA "bruh moments" ever

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

What's missing from this is the reason Benetton got involved in the discussion... At Spa, Tom Walkinshaw (Benetton team manager) persuaded Briatore that Benetton HAD to get Schumacher - because he'd seen how good he was in this other job - Team principal of the TWR Jaguar team in the WSC... It was Ford's purchase of Jaguar that brought Jaguar and Benetton together, with Walkinshaw instrumental in getting Benetton to offer Schumacher a firm contract to race. When the WSC then shut down, he was also able to bring over Jaguar designer Ross Brawn to Benetton for 1992 as Technical Director.. (Rory Byrne was already back, having had Reynard's F1 project cancelled and sold to Pacific Racing). Though Walkinshaw was later shuffled out the door (with Joan Viladelprat) after 1994 following the refuelling rig farce (officially he was 'chosen to run Ligier' which he and Briatore had just bought, anticipating Renault would never pull their supply of engines from a national French team, leaving Benetton/Ligier with the only Renault engines, and Williams stuck for 1995...) it was clear that Walkinshaw and Briatore were just too much ego to have in one place...and Walkinshaw was the fall guy for 1994. Walkinshaw then sold his stake in Benetton, left Ligier and bought Arrows during 1996; but having brought Brawn and Schumacher together at Benetton, set the groundwork for the Ferrari years in many ways.

[@tekpic04]

An excellent expose on the behind the scenes of the early 1990"s WSC/ F1.

[@SiVlog1989]

I remember in F1 Decade, where they talk about Spain 1994 (the race where Schumacher finished second despite being stuck in 5th gear for 2/3 of the race). Steve Matchett, who worked as a mechanic in the Benetton team at the time commented on what Schumacher said after the race. He explained that the way he was coping with the handicap of being stuck in 5th gear was trying weird racing lines to accommodate the braking and accelerating difficulties. A byproduct of this was that the fuel economy of the B194, already one of the cars with better fuel economy already (owing to using a V8 engine as opposed to the more widely used V10 engines and especially better than the heavy and thirsty V12 engines Ferrari in particular used), actually improved while he was stuck in 5th gear. If that wasn't impressive enough, not only did he still go on to lap almost as quickly as eventual winner Damon Hill, but he also made 2 pit stops, rejoining the race without stalling the engine. I'll stick my neck out and say that this performance of Schumacher that day was more impressive than any of his 91 wins

[@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo]

For sure and a lot better then when he cut though a huge patch of grass only to crash into Cecotto M3 on the Dtm championship race as a guest driver giving the title to Stuck........

[@SiVlog1989]

@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo true, I don't think touring cars suited his driving style

[@Kenny-tc6rg]

Good vid! No one talks about pre F1, that Michael had been so good in cars that were rocketships. That he set a new record at the fastest track in the world isn't surprising.

[@waltertownsend3821]

The Mercedes junior team was a radical idea as the WSC had acquired a reputation (rightly or wrongly) for being a good place for drivers not good enough for F1. Names such as Paolo Barilla, Teo Fabi, or Mauro Baldi or even Derek Warwick or Martin Brundle none of them F1 race winners but more than decent at WSC level. Great video though and some lovely WSC footage there! Let’s hope from 2023 the LM(D)H rules and influx of teams will really enhance the series.

[@StuntpilootStef]

I watched the 1991 Le Mans review a while ago. It was pretty funny hearing the commentators saying that this Michael Schumacher kid could be pretty good.

[@SMlFFY85]

6:46 No fucks given going into the pits

[@JK061996]

I used to play World Racing 2 all the time and the C291 was a monster, I didn't know it was so unreliable in real life

[@CDeuce152]

That Sauber Mercedes C11 down Mulsanne sounds 🔥.

[@richardmeftah2569]

What a fascinating story and I never knew this about Schumacher.

[@pihermoso11]

Group C cars were the best looking race cars, Mercedes C291 and C11, Mazda 787b, Jaguar Silk Cut.. no wonder the Pagani Zonda was modelled after the Group C cars

[@bassmunk]

Things like endurance racing can teach you huge lessons. Like, being consistent and patient can also mean being very fast as you learn what works and what doesn't. Sometimes realizing that, what felt slow was in fact extremely fast. This is why I feel that there is such thing as "the perfect lap" but you might not know it if you did it... There's always a turn you think you could have gone faster or an exit you could have given it more gas. But could you? Or were you straddling the limits and maximizing the net gain so perfectly that changing those things would only make you go slower?... 🤔

[@redipustaka3222]

now i know why Toto Wolf says that michael schumacher is essential and belong to Mercedes.

[@EngelDerVerdammnis]

Hope he has a comfy LMP2 seat or something alike for Mick to take for 2023. Would be nice.

[@albert2d421]

Enjoying the ace combat zero soundtrack :]

[@stijnpaspont]

My goal with it is to make people pay attention like its a mission briefing

[@styleemusic]

That c11 is beautiful

[@garneauweld1100]

Very well done! I have always believed in endurance before sprint. Thank you for a great presentation!!

[@stijnpaspont]

Thank you!

[@camrsr5463]

Ace combat menu music.....nice.

[@noellundstrom7447]

this was a great video! interesting narration and good footage

[@stijnpaspont]

Thank you! I try my best to find the best footage to use.

[@cookncrack5334]

THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CAR EVER

[@marco1173]

The C9 is my favorite, but all those MBs from the era are gorgeous

[@kidslovef1155]

Great video. Didn't know much about Schumacher's endurance racing career

[@stijnpaspont]

Well, now you do. Thanks!

[@chrisclermont456]

What I find interesting is why anyone thought a young driver driving Group C was a bad idea. I remember those seasons for Schumacher, Frentzen, and Wendlinger. All three were impressive, and everyone knew they were destined for Formula 1.

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

And Kreutzpointner. What was interesting is that at the time there was a lot of crossover; F1 wasn't (quite) as exclusionary as it became later if you stepped outside the conventional. 1991 also saw Gachot, Herbert and Weidler at Mazda (who had already been in F1 but were still trying to get back), and Warwick, Brundle, Bellof, Alliot, Brabham (Gary and David) and Blundell were all mixing drives between WSC and F1 whenever drives were available. Toyota followed a similar route; Katayama, Irvine, Ratzenberger all raced at Le Mans for Toyota before getting into F1 (Katayama was the same season in '92). Later on, Montoya, Fisichella, Magnussen (Jan) were given ITC drives on development programmes on their ways to F1. It was really only after the demise of the WSC and the firm establishment of F3000, coupled with the failure of Andretti and later Zanardi, that the ladder became quite so narrow; though Massa snuck in some ETCC drives for Alfa in '01!

[@jacekatalakis8316]

The DTM at times had, at least in the 90s up until its inevitable, death, a lurry o ex top level racers too, wonder if that'd make a good video on who was there, how they got there, what they did at the top levels

[@jacekatalakis8316]

To be fair, 93-94 in BTCC had the likes of Smokin' Jo, Cecotto, Larini, Tarquini, and so on as well, DTM/ITC had huge huge names too much like WSC did in the 80s/90s

[@23GreyFox]

I think we can agree that the 80's and 90's was the golden era for touring car racing worldwide.

[@Vorgaloth]

Great video. Wish there was more footage of the C11 back then and Schumi in the Jordan 191. Some of the most beautiful racing cars.

[@aszhara2900]

Trying to pronounce a name correctly goes a long way in our cultures (Germany, Austria etc.). Here, if you don't know a name, the first thing you do is ask how to pronounce it properly. You don't get any negative responses if you don't, but actively trying or even succeeding to pronounce a name correctly gives an instantly positive impression of you. Appreciate it.

[@stijnpaspont]

Why thank you. I appreciate that.

[@clicheguevara9917]

Loved learning! Great video, keep it up!

[@Harrock]

You have a very relaxing and Calming Voice ! Nice pace as well not to fast not to slow ! Very good Video Quality 1

[@Where_is_Waldo]

Am I mistaken or is that the Toyota with a reputation for breaking bones over bumps in the road due to it's extreme downforce?

[@Little_Alesi]

Very good video, good Recherche

[@eggreedgious5194]

That black Sauber is such a cool livery! I'm on the hunt for a 1/43 version.

[@pepperjackttv]

7:56 🙂

[@breatharian2009]

Goed verslag Stijn 👍

[@boheyo]

Best video from a channel with sub-1000 viewers I've seen in a while, subscribing now so I can tell people I got in on the ground floor a couple years from now.

[@reneengelke3218]

Jochen Neerpasch doesnt get the credit he deserves, he came up with the idea of junior drivers and brought us legends like Schumacher or Winkelhock while also building the BMW M GmbH.

[@elonmusk9697]

Nobody knows the name of football scouts either

[@johnpetith5523]

Awesome Video!

[@amaccama3267]

Getting closer to 10K big fella.

[@urugamersOficial]

Awesome job!! Keep it up! 🤩

[@stijnpaspont]

Thanks! I'll try to

[@reddfoxx897]

Love the background music. Reminds me of Ace Combat 😅. Great videos 😁🙏🏽

[@sametozkan9175]

He was supposted to move for Sauber in 1993.

[@bunreal237]

Mate, your videos is sooooo gooooood Informative yet easy to understand I love that you are using ace combat briefing music to creating the vibe xD 😍 Pls keep make vids like this

[@Wings_of_foam]

Lol, calm down.

[@spreilly71]

Love the ace combat 5 music

[@Aloyisius_]

Great video.

[@Sierra-rx9ke]

Good job, you got a new sub!

[@kben24]

You’ve highlighted something that I’ve been thinking about for months now… "Drivers who raced for the same manufacturer in F1 and Le Mans."

[@stijnpaspont]

Oh yeah right. That doesnt happen very often. Off the top of my head i got schumacher (merc), kobayashi (toyota) and phil hill (ferrari). Its definitelly a unique achievement to have as a driver

[@vanderleicapalbo8742]

O Melhor

[@Lucascuryg]

Ace combat 5 music

[@nahoka4378]

Great video. Finally some original content other than repetitive boring BS

[@mochipink5875]

Nice Ace Combat background music.

[@notfound220]

Ace Combat music 🥰 seriously though, nice video man, keep it up

[@bilobatedrip8314]

Cant get enough of the briefing music.

[@23GreyFox]

Is that from Ace Combat 5?

[@RobotLunchboxProductions]

this is a good video

[@joshuak4372]

EPIC PRODUCTION

[@FELiPES101]

nice video Mobius 1

[@MrTeufelweich]

Gruppe C was so amazing and so beautiful race cars. And here learned Schumi how to race at a top level no more reached.

[@leech457]

Is that the ace combat 5 OST I’m hearing?

[@stewartrobison5218]

Ace Combat 5 and Zero 😁

[@ІгорСемекін]

Привіт,дякую з новинками про М.Шумахеру з другому типу авторинку.

[@twitertaker]

I heard his name butchered so often (E.g. the english pronunciation like Mykel Schoomaker), I was perplexed when you said it nearly perfect.

[@watchnocatch171]

To be honest "nearly perfect" is still off by a bit. He pronounced the ch in Michael the same as in Schumacher when it isn't pronounced like that.

[@chieftainmk_11]

What’s the music?

[@stijnpaspont]

Its all from ace combat. Specifically "Ace combat zero - sortie 1" and "ace combat 5 - briefing 1"

[@chieftainmk_11]

@@stijnpaspont Thanks, I sorts har ace Combat vibes but i didn’t know which. In the future please put the link to music used in the description! Btw, Great vid!

[@Bruhemiousmomentium]

The Ace combat breifing music 👌

[@simracingenthusiast4769]

what track is this at 1:20

[@daliborzak2485]

Looks like Brands Hatch to me

[@simracingenthusiast4769]

@@daliborzak2485 thanks

[@MrTeufelweich]

@@daliborzak2485 Me too.

[@Mack-parks]

Dope

[@speedlimitviolationspecialist]

based ace combat fan

[@Honeykarthika]

Mikhael Schumacher sounds like he's half Russian

[@Yoshiman2024]

It's actually more like it is supposed to be pronounced. Not like the English 'Michael'.

[@Honeykarthika]

@@Yoshiman2024 i didn't know

[@alflife2007]

@@Yoshiman2024 nope

[@Yoshiman2024]

@@alflife2007 It clearly is... Just because the English commentators were, and still are, too lazy to learn the names properly, doesn't mean it's correct. You pronounce it Mee cah ehl Not MY-kuhl. It comes from Hebrew and made the transition to English this way: Michel>Michael>Michaël>Michael

[@alflife2007]

​@@Yoshiman2024 you said:"It's actually more like it is supposed to be pronounced." in what language? when we talk about a german driver and you say that i think its wrong because you dont say it that way in german.

[@tamezzodiac2862]

0:53

[@bigcool2863]

u sound dutch! good video tho!

[@stijnpaspont]

close, i'm from belgium. and thanks!

[@daliborzak2485]

HH Frentzen is possibly the most underrated F1 driver of all times.

[@antwebb7015]

Stefan bellof sadly did both at same time ,killimg him in 1985 by jackie ickx hit him

[@chrisclermont456]

Almost correct. Jacky Ickx did not hit Stefan Bellof. Bellof attempted a pass on the outside of the ultra fast Eau Rouge series of corners that lead to Radillion. He went for a disappearing gap, touched the rear of Ickx' Porsche whom he was following, and both cars crashed. Bellof veered into a dirt birm and was killed instantly. It was a terrible lost for racing. Had he lived, he certainly would have been Germany's first F1 World Champion a few years on. There's no doubt about that!!

[@michaelboot1091]

dat nederlands door het engels heen Geweldig 😂😂👌

[@janosh4664]

Why do you call the C9, C11 and C291 a mercedes? It's a SAUBER with a mercedes engine

[@anusername8350]

They are both a sauber and a mercedes

[@janosh4664]

@@anusername8350 ...made in switzerland 😉

[@anusername8350]

@@janosh4664 with Mercedes parts

[@chrisclermont456]

The team was called Sauber Mercedes, but it was funded by Mercedes hence the "silver arrow" appearance. Sauber entered F1 the year following Mercedes pulling out of Group C taking Mercedes engines and Karl Wendlinger with them. Heinz-Harold Frentzen and Michael Schumacher were left to find F1 seats elsewhere.

[@Strider_JM]

Really don’t like your comment suggesting that Schumi was disqualified at Silverstone to favour Jaguar 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@samghost13]

Good thing Bernie is gone! They did what they want and it was a shit show! Not to say that it is all better now. Sadly it's not! That they favour the Ferraris at this Year 24h Le Mans was how i put that? Hmm...

[@Sirikazy]

Much of shumacher's talent came from the favoritism of the brands and the FIA itself.

[@indahooddererste]

You can say Mercedes paid for the seat in the Jordan F1 car but they wouldnt have done this without talent. The only one who saw dollars was Bernie Ecclestone making F1 more famous in germany with a german driver.

[@palumboumberto8287]

@@indahooddererste yep, most famous driver have sponsor and money to partecipate IndyCar/Nascar and F1 championship.

[@sabataskull9661]

At least Schumacher won with different motors, H only won with Mercedes motors.

[@mrjjman2010]

Great video!

[@Ihateejayyy]

I know he was a f1 legend I never knew he did endurance racing before f1

[@apenneukende]

I like your video