Michael Shermer with Dr. Yuval Noah Harari - 21 Lessons for the 21st Century (SCIENCE SALON # 38)

[@Tomeravr259]

Prof. Harari is a true "out of the box" thinker. The fact that I feel like new and objective perspectives are so numerous in his lectures make them so intellectualy satisfying for me. No dogma, just thoughts from a birds eye view...

[@DimitarBerberu]

@@fenrisvargen Not very similar but better - Slavoj Zizek

[@solideogloria5553]

he sure has a biased bird eye, come on, no one is non-biased

[@SoumiSenguptaBDS]

one of the greatest philosophers of our time.

[@rosemariesengupta6689]

I agree.

[@johnsheehan5109]

If you haven't read Dr.Harari's book do yourself a favor do so immediately...

[@whatup7624]

Thanks for giving me the answer I so desperately needed.

[@tips4truckers252]

Glad I subbed. I watch every one

[@cdub4693]

This was a phenomenal interview.

[@asadfami7623]

Yuval Noah Harari is an international treasure.

[@nightcourtbullies5122]

Man I love Mike and I didn’t even know he had this podcast

[@rebeccalarason306]

Thank you for this information. It is very helpful to know myself better. I feel much better about what I am thinking about now.

[@TheULMOnaut]

1:02:30 if you pray to god or you have cup of tea or you take a good piss in the morning or there is a pandemic... as Mr. Historian said, it is more about story telling than truth, many thanks for clarifying.

[@MatthewNorsa]

Very much enjoying his Book right now! I think his point about Peterson was spot on. Deifying intellectuals to the point where we don't question what they say is of upmost importance for anyone trying to think critically about such issues.

[@jamesjohnson2394]

Matthew Norsa I agree.

[@darrendwyer9973]

it would be interesting if yuval could come on board with a world government, with the main concept of the government to be about "to protect humanity".

[@jamesjohnson2394]

darren dwyer isnt that what the UN is about? I sometimes think we need a natural disaster to make us realise we are not the centre of thins. A small meteriod hitting a major city or a big solar flare wiping out a large part of the world economy. In the short term it be awful but perhaps in the long term it might deflate our ego and make us realise we ain't so special.

[@rogerlephoque3704]

He never got on board and never will, for he disembarked in a nano-second from this notion when he warned (in another KZbin public lecture) against the very idea of a "world government'" as a global panacea.

[@abdurrashad4395]

The world needs to get balance approach of life in the light of pragmatic and rational interpretation of human history presented by Yuval Nooh

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[@josephaugustine4778]

Really a true thinker

[@naskrajuciszy]

For people praising this man try looking up videos of him taking about the general population and how much respect he has for the plebs

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Very good

[@naturalisted1714]

It's all just an unfolding. The ones controlling others have no Freewill either.

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[@HEHAEC]

How about give full autonomy to cities and towns - they will figure out what works best for them in a competitive environment

[@vaultsjan]

So upstream town will dump its shit (its cheap) to river that takes it to another fully autonomous town downstream.

[@donfox1036]

Chris Popov, k. Longs there it too much competition. The ancient example of Athens vs Sparta did not have a happy ending.

[@donfox1036]

Chris Popov, as long as there isn't too much competition...

[@HEHAEC]

Don Fox you hit the nail on the head! That is only possible if earth resources (including land water minerals and air) are universally accepted as collective property of all of humanity and there is universal free market without concession rights, tariffs and taxes. The current owners could be compensated for improvements on market principles also.

[@wunwuntew]

I'm skeptical of the notion that compassion (or 'enlightenment') is the factor that motivates veganism. But I accept the statistics indicating that four out of five of the 2% of Americans (one fourth of which are purely vegan) that abandon meat sometime during their lives eventually go back to it. And I'd expect these people are no less compassionate then than they ever were.

[@chewyjello1]

So many more people would be vegan if it was easier to do. I tried. But I'm a low income single mom living in a small not vegan friendly town. I also have ADHD so planning....not my strong suit. Eating vegan took a lot of planning and I couldn't always plan consistently enough to put together well balanced healthy meals. So I incorporated fish, shellfish, muscles and humane eggs back into my diet. I believe that sometimes we just have to do the best we can.

[@persallnas5408]

i love it when u hear his dog bark now and then during his videos

[@okay5271]

No comment

[@okay5271]

Why are asking for me stupid question?

[@okay5271]

No more asking this kind of hideous question again? Do you understand me? Just shut up with this in opportunists

[@EventHorizon1208]

This conversation is like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford. Harari is a modern renaissance man..education for enlightenment. Sherman doesn't get that when Harari says Liberal He isn't talking about antifa.

[@jansveen]

If you are a historian, you should be able to refer to historical items at the time they belong. I write about the posters in Russia at the museum. It is nothing funny about it, and refer to this and kind of ridicul it, just comes out as ignorant. The sufferings of people in the east block was the worst ever. The SS behaved like evil it self, sadism can't describe what they did. People got forced to eat each other. It is for me the darkest time of human beings, and please pay some respect to the suffering of millions and millions of people, civilians, children. Thank you to Harari, I enjoy your work immensely. It is truly extremely important for the present and future, and also for the past.

[@darrendwyer9973]

I cannot understand the global hesitation - we need a world government now, it could solve all our problems, but nobody wants to do it.

[@jesperburns]

Alright, so let me break it down to you, in the words of Yuval here: He's granting the inevitable reality of tribalism. Nations are just big tribes. So sure, it's not natural to have a nation especially not gigantic ones, but globalism and the erasure of borders is far less natural. People are inherently tribalistic unless they're conditioned out of it, currently, only the West is doing that, the rest of the world is still very much tribalistic. And so are most people in the West. People like me, refuse to be ordered about by foreigners. In fact, I want my country out of the EU because they're deciding things (sometimes) over 85% of the population of my country doesn't agree with. I don't think democratic rule is the end all be all but that's just insane. We're being ordered to accept laws only 15% of us want. Don't get me wrong, I want climate change dealt with, but not by some global government, I'd rather revolt. Violently.

[@JEnglish.d]

Beppe, tribalism is distinguished from nationalism by being an organization of people that you know personally as opposed to an association of people that you know almost none of. Harari's point, though, is that the leap from nationalism to globalism will be likely easier than it has been from tribalism to nationalism.

[@jesperburns]

Time stamp me this point then because I didn't get that at all. He's advocating for world cooperation, not globalism.

[@johncaulk6057]

Beppe, distinction without a difference?

[@jesperburns]

If you think that, then clearly, it is you who has not understood what he's on about. I suggest you go watch his talk with Harris as Sam grills him on this, and he then elucidates that you are in fact mistaken about his point. Not me.

[@naturalisted1714]

So it seems we're becoming more like a hive mind. We're becoming the extension of other's desires. We're becoming a part of a bigger machine.

[@zeledon65]

It was annoying to see how Mr. Shermer kept tryinto show us how much he knows... let Dr. Harrari talk! It is an interview about Dr. Harari's book not about you...

[@EventHorizon1208]

Harari is so bored listening to Sherman talk about his own sophomoric ideas I hear snoring.

[@seniorsclub08]

Event Horizon yup! I agree... he is not acting as a questioning interviewer... he is trying to either compete with Harare, or promote his own book(s)... I lost respect for Shermer on his first interjection of his own thinking, referencing his own thoughts.... Not a true professional, whose role is to delve into and discover the perspectives of the interviewee. Hmmmph....

[@seniorsclub08]

Event Horizon When Shermer begins his own 'thinking' about religion and questions Harare about beliefs about Yuval's position re atheism, he shows his flaws and the existence of an arguing ego. He promotes himself rather than working to have the listener get closer to the thoughts of Harari... Shermer; if you read these comments, spend some time in meditation as described by Harari... you could learn a lot about the role of a facilitator.... and you are currently not a true 'facilitator' of thought. You demean yourself...

[@seniorsclub08]

Shermer; Re-listen to this discussion.... Harari is very kind to you.... Each time you present your personal views, (and many times, you're a bit off-base with his thought when adding your comments, he deftly tries to show that you have not considered the 'whole' of the thoughts on which you comment.... Time to meditate Micheal...

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Get Nassim Taleb please

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[@sulljoh1]

1:11:02 Science is mainly interested in power? You're describing Engineering.

[@chewyjello1]

Science doesn't get funding unless it has practical implications. Practical implications means it increases someone's power to do something.

[@lost-again-farms1396fungi]

Military

[@DimitarBerberu]

Good framework on the 21 Lessons. However, not very competent on understanding digital change, or Cognitive Revolution. Controversial assessment of failing Liberalism (really narrowminded conservatism) as better than the rest. Well, communism (final mature stage) has never been tried & failure of some Socialist countries does not mean that socialism is not gradually overtaking Liberalism (that he confirms that it failing).

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[@TempestTossedWaters]

Nationalism is illiberal? Explain what is anti-liberal about the idea that groups of people share a common heritage, a common range of values, and are a distinct people?

[@JEnglish.d]

Please explain what you mean by "distinct people".

[@TempestTossedWaters]

Distinguishable population distributions that have different traits, however much of those are caused by culture vs genetics is really irrelevant to the idea that distinct groups of people with common history, traits, and values exist. Take a million random saudis and compare them to a million random japanese. Extreme case, but they'll be quite different.

[@johncaulk6057]

Dragonworks, this seems a bit miopic to me. I believe modern day people who live in Saudi Arabia and in Japan have much more to do with each other and are much more alike than their ancestors four or five generations ago, don't you?

[@TempestTossedWaters]

Likely so, but if you took a million people at random from Saudi-Arabia and put them to live in Japan, do you think there would be problems?

[@TempestTossedWaters]

Let's take an example of common traits. I'm from Finland. Most Finns don't cross the street as pedestrians if there's a red light even when the street is empty. This is a level of honesty and respect for law visible as outward behavior every day on the streets. Whatever causes this behavior in this population, be it social or genetic, is irrelevant. It cannot be denied that this is a distinct and uncommon trait. Other populations coming here don't do this and you can see it just by looking out from your window at the intersection. Groups often share common trait distributions, on the national level as well as smaller groups. No single trait makes a group. But collections of trait distributions are immediately identifiable as belonging to some nationalities by any normal person with decent accuracy. This is because as stereotype accuracy shows us, most stereotypes are usually true. It isn't some evil illiberal plot to label people, it's that this way of thinking has predictive value.

[@JeffreyPappas786]

In my perfect system, the childless would not be allowed to even vote. No skin in the game, no investment in the future, the childless cannot be taken seriously by those actually peopling the future.

[@quantumaxe6468]

OK, then maybe people with children should also make sure that they are not being subsidized by the government with other people's money, just for a start.

[@quantumaxe6468]

@Andreaz-64 moron, I mean the OP.

[@TempestTossedWaters]

It is shortsighted to say that I cannot possibly care about the future just because I don't have kids.

[@jesperburns]

Andreaz It's so dumb, he's so uneducated, yet there's not a single counter argument in your little rant there. I'm not saying I agree with either of you, I haven't thought much about it, but you're just spouting platitudes. "hurdur read a book on x" Yeah, or, type out some actual arguments instead of mindless ad hominem.

[@vaultsjan]

What about parents that abuse their children? What about parents that by what science knows treat their kids very badly (with long-term consequences)?

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