Installing This IBM Copy of Windows 3.1

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Michael MJD

Michael MJD

Күн бұрын

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@StevenOBrien
@StevenOBrien 2 жыл бұрын
Michael, your audience consists of people who will take time out of their day to watch Windows 3.1 get installed for the millionth time. Of course we're interested in the User's Guide!
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 жыл бұрын
It could be loading so fast that your monitor can't dispay it. Most LCD monitors go blank for a few seconds when switching resolutions, so if the logo showed up briefly during that time, you'd miss it. Try installing it on a slower computer, or use an old CRT monitor.
@MichaelMJD
@MichaelMJD 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s probably it!
@whirrCS2
@whirrCS2 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes cant dispay it
@davinp
@davinp 2 жыл бұрын
Your computer too fast to display it
@DavidWonn
@DavidWonn 2 жыл бұрын
I posted an easy fix in another comment (which I also posted on a now-defunct forum eons ago.) Just press the Pause key!
@UltimatePerfection
@UltimatePerfection 2 жыл бұрын
Some CRTs I have used also blanked for few seconds when changing the resolution, so getting a CRT is not guaranteed to get rid of the issue.
@_eesports
@_eesports 2 жыл бұрын
Next: Installing Windows 3.1 on a piece of paper
@ElectricoGamez
@ElectricoGamez 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Potato20162
@Potato20162 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@Thiesi
@Thiesi 2 жыл бұрын
loL
@Matheus-Silva226
@Matheus-Silva226 2 жыл бұрын
Windows only works for PC
@adamtalir
@adamtalir 2 жыл бұрын
@@Matheus-Silva226 no shit sherlock
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 2 жыл бұрын
Estimated effort to modify the boot logo screen: Minimal. Time spent in MS Paint cropping and moving the stock Windows boot logo to one side: 2 minutes. Time spent in MS Paint pasting in existing IBM ValuePoint logo beside it: 1 minute. Total time billed for editing: 16 hours. Time spent in meetings approving the new boot logo: 4 weeks.
@NoahClevinger
@NoahClevinger 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve really been enjoying the recent videos, Michael. Plus the new setup looks awesome!
@WindowsXP2600
@WindowsXP2600 2 жыл бұрын
meh it's not really different, it's just a tilted camera angle.
@Morhamms357
@Morhamms357 2 жыл бұрын
@@WindowsXP2600 It may be just a different camera angle, but a little tweak like that goes a long way. Now, we can see a few old Windows versions on standby, which would probably make it a lot more obvious to a first-time viewer that this channel is about retro tech, gives them a better idea of what it's about, plus it looks a little more vibrant and colorful than his beige wallpaper.
@tailsorange2872
@tailsorange2872 2 жыл бұрын
Finally we are looking at that copy of Windows 3.1 - It's been a while since the last time I've seen you talk about it
@JustPyroYT
@JustPyroYT 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video in which you show EVERY copy of Windows you have. I'd love to see it :D
@DavidWonn
@DavidWonn 2 жыл бұрын
The trick to displaying the Windows logo is very simple on faster PCs: Just press the Pause key! I had to do this on my 800 MHz Pentium 3, as it went by too fast otherwise.
@davinp
@davinp 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's interesting that the IBM version of the manual is 400 pages less than the retail version as Windows looks exactly the same. I would be interested to compare the chapters in the table of contents to see what Microsoft removed from the manual
@pspdv
@pspdv 9 ай бұрын
timecodes: 00:00 📦 Introduction and gratitude to Free Geek Twin Cities for the IBM Windows 3.1 copy. 00:11 📘 Comparing the thickness of the OEM user manual to the retail version. 01:55 💾 Examining the floppy disks with unique IBM labels. 04:40 💻 Initiating the Windows 3.1 installation process on the 98 PC. 06:54 ⚠ Troubleshooting a display issue encountered during installation. 07:15 🔎 Identifying potential files containing the boot logo. 08:24 💾 Copying files to a floppy disk for further examination on a modern computer. 08:30 💽 Exploring the installed IBM Windows 3.1 for discrepancies. 08:43 ℹ Discovering an IBM reference in the "About Program Manager" section. 09:15 🤔 Checking the Windows tutorial and help contents for alterations. 10:03 💬 Concluding thoughts on the minimal changes in the IBM version and the significance of consistency among OEMs. 10:36 🎉 Playing Solitaire and concluding with thanks and closing remarks.
@thefrecklepuny
@thefrecklepuny 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the days of physical media and a proper user manual! I remember purchasing Win 3.1. Most of the weight was the DOS 6.2 and Win 3.1 user manual!
@lukaskrivanek4517
@lukaskrivanek4517 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Michael. I just want to say that you are my favourite youtuber. Thanks to your videos i love retro tech (mainly computers and retro software). I love your calming voice and all the effort and money you put into all those videos. You are the best :) PS: i am 11 years old
@rixius1005
@rixius1005 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda disappointing that it turned out to be just a standard Windows 3.1 install, was kinda hoping for a full on IBM theme. Ah well, can't win them all. Still, an interesting watch and hey, nothing catastrophically bad happened this time, so there's a plus.
@blainepalmerza
@blainepalmerza 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video , Michael!
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 2 жыл бұрын
I'd wager that if you renamed that file and gave it a .bmp extension it would've worked. A lot of earlier programs were kind of stupid in that they would refuse to open a valid file if its extension was different than what it expected.
@QuaaludeCharlie
@QuaaludeCharlie 2 жыл бұрын
What a Great Set of Win 3.1 to Have in your collection . Thank you for showcasing these :) QC
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim 2 жыл бұрын
expecting to see 'This does not compute' make a video about this soon 😂
@treyparker8303
@treyparker8303 2 жыл бұрын
Could you possibly dump the disk? I have an IBM PS/2 I would love this for.
@IvanovIvanAKrutoi
@IvanovIvanAKrutoi 2 жыл бұрын
"Wow, is this the year 1992?" "Eh, no, it's the year 2022." "WHAT?!" "Uh, yeah, there's an 11th Windows by now." "WHAT?!"
@airfixer9461
@airfixer9461 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see, not much change compared to the retail release of Win 3.1. Thx for doing the video Michael, nice one 🙂
@andresbravo2003
@andresbravo2003 2 жыл бұрын
IBM and Microsoft, really makes an endorsement. I need a different OEM Version for the next MJD Video…
@sayyedal-afghani
@sayyedal-afghani 10 ай бұрын
MJD: I would love to see you install a copy of the "just found" Microsoft OS/2 2.0!
@rsgoogleaccount3163
@rsgoogleaccount3163 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if it came with any custom wallpapers?
@CoolestFireySpartanEver
@CoolestFireySpartanEver 5 ай бұрын
Ipanema Daydream is at 8:25 "Paintbrush won't open it, but I believe MS Paint on Windows 10 will."
@hugosimoes5119
@hugosimoes5119 2 жыл бұрын
1:37 Yes, I also like that logo as well. I never liked much of how they put WINDOWS below the flag.
@rebeccagg2168
@rebeccagg2168 2 жыл бұрын
Cool MJD video 👍
@RetroGamerOG_
@RetroGamerOG_ 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of the ibm copy of windows but I do know they we’re together back then but spilt and the interface looks the same though
@gilly5809
@gilly5809 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the Windows XP bobble-head is still in the videos.
@MozharGamer
@MozharGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Is there win 95 IBM? If there is I'd love to see that
@sayyedal-afghani
@sayyedal-afghani 10 ай бұрын
IBM had special rights with Windows 3.x which they didn't have with Windows 95. A brief history: (1) Microsoft buys DOS from SCP and signs with IBM to develop MS-DOS (aka PC-DOS) for the IBM PC. They also retain rights to DOS and offer it to makers of PC clones, although IBM does have rights to modify the code as well. (2) Microsoft starts developing Windows a few years later. They also agree to develop the next operating system for the PC which is later called OS/2. Windows was created primarily to create a GUI for DOS, OS/2 was developed to take advantage of newer Intel chips which allowed multitasking. (3) A few years go by and both Windows and OS/2 struggle in the marketplace. In spite of different initial design goals, Windows and OS/2 start being seen as competing products. The 2 companies have an uneasy agreement where Windows is seen as a temporary product while OS/2 is seen as the future. And so inevitably, Microsoft uses some of the technology it used to develop OS/2 in Windows. They also used some of IBM's expertise to help develop Windows. And so it all becomes muddied between Windows and OS/2 and Microsoft and IBM. (4) Windows 3.0 comes out and becomes a huge success and IBM tells Microsoft to kill Windows and fold it into OS/2. Bill Gates tells Big Blue to take a hike, but eventually the divorce settlement looks like this: * IBM retains the rights to develop OS/2 2.x. I believe Microsoft also had the rights to use OS/2 2.x code, but never used it. There was an interesting lost beta product found a few weeks ago of MS OS/2 2.0 which I would love to see MJD make a video of if he ever got a copy of it. This was released right after Windows 3.0 was released. * Microsoft retained the rights to develop OS/2 3.x although Dave Cutler the project manager quickly turned it into Windows NT and pretty much started writing new code. * Both companies have the right to use source code from OS/2 1.x how ever they please. IBM of course used it to develop OS/2 2.0. Microsoft strangely enough allowed you to run OS/2 1.x text apps under the OS/2 for Windows subsystem in Windows NT until Windows 2000 although you could run it in Windows 2000 if you had the right files. I've seen information in various places which says you could run OS/2 1.x graphics programs using the Microsoft "Presentation Manager for Windows NT Subsystem", but I'm not sure if that ever came out or was vaporware. * IBM had the rights to develop PC-DOS independent of Microsoft. This included a copy of DOS included with OS/2. * IBM had certain rights to the Windows 3.x source code. They didn't need to ask permission from Microsoft to sell Windows, but they did need to pay them royalties. This is why there was a blue and red spline version of later versions of OS/2- the red spline didn't contain a copy of Windows- you bought it if you already had a copy of Windows and wanted to have OS/2, you could simply install OS/2 and your Windows installation would be patched on the fly. This saved you on having to pay for Windows twice- since the cost of the blue spline edition included royalties to MS. But IBM's rights for Windows source code ended sometime in 1993. They could continue to use Windows 3.x code indefinitely, but any code after '93 they had no rights to. As a matter of fact, IBM was the only large PC maker who didn't have any Windows 95 licenses until minutes before it launched...
@josephnorris4095
@josephnorris4095 2 жыл бұрын
For Windows at that time, Windows 3.11 for Workgroups was the best. Also, it was cool that in the early 90's, I could install voice control software in Windows 3.11 and it worked quite well.
@jjjacer
@jjjacer 2 жыл бұрын
lol i just picked up the dell copy of windows 3.1 on floppies at a St Vincent DePaul store today, didnt know what it was, just had Dell markings and an agreement to terms when seal is broken on the small floppy box. got it home, opened it up and it was 7 windows 3.1 disks, 1-6 install disks, and an enhancement disk
@RynardMooreVstar1
@RynardMooreVstar1 2 жыл бұрын
Compuserve!? Now that's a online service I haven't used in a long time... A very long time...
@PCUSER486
@PCUSER486 2 жыл бұрын
What model is that DELL LCD? Nice video 📹
@drip_sluke
@drip_sluke 2 жыл бұрын
Windows 10 maybe can dualboot with Windows 3.1, if you can
@sleepygraham5482
@sleepygraham5482 2 жыл бұрын
New MJD vid lets go!
@gdcalamity
@gdcalamity 2 жыл бұрын
Yay mjd upload
@qwerdsffds
@qwerdsffds 2 жыл бұрын
Ok
@michaelisveryvintage
@michaelisveryvintage 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats cool and all but did it come bundled with a WMV (Weezer Music Video)?
@phr3dmcc0y
@phr3dmcc0y 2 жыл бұрын
Could be some init file was skipping the logo. Or it could be that the boot logo was supposed to be shown in a resolution that the screen could not adjust to (frequency out of range perhaps) but then before the screen could react, Windows was showing. Maybe another monitor would show it?
@Muksshaik2010
@Muksshaik2010 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Michael,I think you should try this Android Emulator called Android Studio in one of your videos.I would like to see that video
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 2 жыл бұрын
android studio isn't an emulator, it's the 'preferred' development suite for, with which you can install the emulators(rather emulator images you can then make an emulator config to use an image and choose the resolution, dpi, how many cores, memory etc) and the sdk, but it's better to run the emulator outside of the studio anyway as running it in a window inside android studio sucks majorly for various reasons. you can get images for basically any android version though for it and some images with play store as well. they've made it more casual friendly lately in the sense that you can just drag'n'drop an apk into it and copy pasting text into and out from the emulator should just work(doesn't always). anyway you can also just install the emulators and images without android studio, as is just the most straightforward method at the moment i suppose to install the sdk...
@MikeFromDownUnder
@MikeFromDownUnder 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this❗👍🤙
@kyoudaiken
@kyoudaiken 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Michael MJD: WINDÖÜWS
@grimxy7451
@grimxy7451 2 жыл бұрын
hell yea I volunteer at free geek twin cities all the time!
@NickDalzell
@NickDalzell 2 жыл бұрын
There was an old copy I had long ago called "Microsoft Windows for Logitech version 3.0" that I never could get to install, even on an i386. I was always curious what Logitech added to it. Came on a dozen or so 5.25" 1.2 MB floppy disks. Disk 6 or 7 refused to work, and the install failed. I remember those PS/ValuePoints. They were all over high school and they were total pieces of boring crap.
@domyinickblankenship6854
@domyinickblankenship6854 2 жыл бұрын
Next: installing windows 3.1 on on my hamburger from 2001
@mihoshiproductions9809
@mihoshiproductions9809 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, was just thinking the other day about how I had a Logitech branded version of Windows 3.1 that came on 5.25 inch floppy disks and included a 3 button mouse and was wondering what other OEM branded versions were out there.
@dminalba
@dminalba 2 жыл бұрын
I found a copy of IBM’s windows 3.11 manual in an apartment I bought the previous owner didn’t bring
@zeenxdownz
@zeenxdownz 2 жыл бұрын
2:15 ahh yes qr codes in the 19's (the floppy disk's box)
@sebastian19745
@sebastian19745 2 жыл бұрын
Why do not look in the manual about how to install it? My guess is that this was meant to be installed under OS/2. Also, does it no have some customized IBM bitmaps?
@sjogosPT
@sjogosPT 2 жыл бұрын
I expected to see some ibm wallpapers or themes
@JohnCremboz
@JohnCremboz 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Compaq in the nineties with Win 3.1 . It had TabWorks by Xerox.
@NickDalzell
@NickDalzell 2 жыл бұрын
I had one of the infamous IBM PS/1's that came with 3.1. It had an office suite called "Microsoft Works" that was, at the time the most hilarious oxymoron.
@JohnCremboz
@JohnCremboz 2 жыл бұрын
@@NickDalzell I've used Works from version 2.0 to version 8.5. My dad swore by it. Wasn't bad, but a bit limited.
@NickDalzell
@NickDalzell 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnCremboz I always dumped to DOS at the time. I was still quite used to the immense tools and editing of Professional Write, which is all but forgotten today. Professional Write costed upwards of $1,000 and had TONS of features that bested WordPerfect, WordStar, and MS Works. Only downside is it was not a WYSIWYG interface. it used coloured text to indicate formatting instead of showing it bold, italic, etc. The only thing I needed Windows for was America Online, since Prodigy was EOL'ing by that time.
@fra4455
@fra4455 Жыл бұрын
Great video✌
@omaraguero
@omaraguero 2 жыл бұрын
great video, pls talk about Microsoft Encarta
@thisisanwindows7user
@thisisanwindows7user 2 жыл бұрын
Next: Windows 2000 on Mystery PC
@Swoss1
@Swoss1 2 жыл бұрын
I Don't Know If This Is Possible But Can You Install MichelSoft BinBows On A Old PC?
@_S.H_
@_S.H_ 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't reboot the computer after setup finished. I would expect that would have started windows differently because it would have read the drivers from the config file.
@hibbiea8841
@hibbiea8841 2 жыл бұрын
MajorSky17, you did not upload the next Windows 8 Build Dvpmt. video. When will you do it?
@lupinzar
@lupinzar 2 жыл бұрын
My family's NEC Ready had a customized boot screen graphic for Windows 3.1 as well. They added the NEC logo and I think some text to the standard screen, so nothing special.
@JacksonCaineRyder
@JacksonCaineRyder 2 жыл бұрын
I just found out that you’re on famous birthdays
@Yanowhjem
@Yanowhjem 2 жыл бұрын
can you actually try running windows 3.1 on Minecraft kinda curious
@Jomo_Star
@Jomo_Star 2 жыл бұрын
Can you try and get a hold of a Gateway GT4016🙏🙏🙏 it’s a beautiful computer
@DaPogLord
@DaPogLord 2 жыл бұрын
What's the exact model of your windows 98 pc?
@psxmemes
@psxmemes 2 жыл бұрын
My, I haven't heard the name tweeterman287 in a while, used to watch him all the time, heck, I'm even an old subscriber!
@kimstenvall8903
@kimstenvall8903 2 жыл бұрын
Hey question for you MJD when will the second part of the trash picked compaw portable 1 be made i watched the first part months ago and really liked it but never saw a continuation
@darkspongebob11
@darkspongebob11 2 жыл бұрын
he said in a few videos that hes having trouble withthings so its taking a lot longer
@VidClips858
@VidClips858 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of odd seeing an IBM manual where one or more pages don't say, "This page intentionally left blank."
@ambidextrousambidextrou6349
@ambidextrousambidextrou6349 2 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that I fall asleep to his videos???
@mizonokuchi029
@mizonokuchi029 2 жыл бұрын
Does it work if you use the retail version of disk 2 after ibm disk 1
@DarthCrust66
@DarthCrust66 2 жыл бұрын
The og was users guide just looks wrong without the windows logo
@PurblePink8678
@PurblePink8678 2 жыл бұрын
Installing Windows Vista on RAM
@MassimoPelle
@MassimoPelle 2 жыл бұрын
Che ricordi spettacolo ❤
@askhowiknow5527
@askhowiknow5527 2 жыл бұрын
Tweeterman is an OG
@techshibe137
@techshibe137 2 жыл бұрын
next video: calling the new ibm support and asking for help
@tomuplayer3556
@tomuplayer3556 2 жыл бұрын
This installation is way more better than xp :D
@konstantinosstam-tp2eg
@konstantinosstam-tp2eg Ай бұрын
I still wonder how many of those Windows 3.1 have like MICROSOFT DID YOU LIKE MAKE 2 MIL OF THEM?
@julianbarron5293
@julianbarron5293 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t the xerox Windows 3.1 have a different program manager?
@sayyedal-afghani
@sayyedal-afghani 10 ай бұрын
You're thinking of Xerox rooms I believe.
@kebab_hill
@kebab_hill 2 жыл бұрын
it could be caused by rle not supported by Windows 3.1
@ArturoUngaroCanErgen
@ArturoUngaroCanErgen Жыл бұрын
6:51 / Now
@flashteenschiang2917
@flashteenschiang2917 2 жыл бұрын
Next: Install Asahi Linux on M1-based mac (it is possible)
@alexisadoofus
@alexisadoofus 9 ай бұрын
Next: installing windows 3.1 using punch cards
@epyc6195
@epyc6195 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see if Michael MJD can see if he can unlock a Dell Inspiron 1525 with a password reset disk
@Madness832
@Madness832 2 жыл бұрын
Did you try callin' the 800 number?
@juansanchezdominguez7885
@juansanchezdominguez7885 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could make a collection of computing books
@LovelyAlanna
@LovelyAlanna 2 жыл бұрын
tweeterman287 is still alive?
@jaymenbuining3714
@jaymenbuining3714 2 жыл бұрын
Instaling windows vista on a smart toaster
@planesguineapigs1712
@planesguineapigs1712 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's the display driver, you are running it on a PC that is multiple times faster with no drivers than W31 was intended to be used with. It may just be initialising so quickly that it doesn't display in time.
@ThisIsAlexChannel
@ThisIsAlexChannel 2 жыл бұрын
That is so cool 😎
@packerfan10
@packerfan10 2 жыл бұрын
It always breaks my heart to see sealed items being opened for the first time :(
@Knuxfan24
@Knuxfan24 2 жыл бұрын
It's the complete opposite for me. Software is made to be used, so keeping it sealed up on a shelf is missing the whole point.
@malwaretestingfan
@malwaretestingfan 2 жыл бұрын
You could always re-seal it using a bit of glue once you're done.
@linuxization4205
@linuxization4205 2 жыл бұрын
It feels more satisfying to unseal it than to keep it sealed.
@t4N9410oR
@t4N9410oR 2 жыл бұрын
What broke my heart with the unsealing, is that he was so incautious, that the barcode label was torn in half. He should have been more careful, to make it possible to remove the contents, while keeping the label intact.
@allanmarsh1
@allanmarsh1 2 жыл бұрын
@@t4N9410oR Why?
@DomiPcPro
@DomiPcPro 2 жыл бұрын
Where is part 2 of the Compaq portable?!
@CityAnimate
@CityAnimate 2 жыл бұрын
Compaq Portable part 2 please
@Mr_Controller64
@Mr_Controller64 2 жыл бұрын
Next: installing mac os on the windows 98 PC
@Roboman01851
@Roboman01851 2 жыл бұрын
tweeterman sent this???
@scripted_connor
@scripted_connor 2 жыл бұрын
You should maybe try installing windows on a iphone.
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 2 жыл бұрын
IBM? Microsoft? Not OS/2? Mind blown!
@LoadingMaster99123
@LoadingMaster99123 2 жыл бұрын
yooooo it the guy
@sergejgajic
@sergejgajic 2 жыл бұрын
You kinda sound like RDJ but a bit higher pitch
@chinuochinu2070
@chinuochinu2070 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the real footage of the monitor instead of the capture card footage. But it's just me okay
@JohnVella1968
@JohnVella1968 11 ай бұрын
Can we all start pronouncing the e on the end of diskette please? Try it! Saying diskettee is just more fun. Or is it just me?
@crboxyt
@crboxyt 2 жыл бұрын
Hi from Italy
@hibbiea8841
@hibbiea8841 2 жыл бұрын
Mjd will you join the Mastodon
@TweeterMan287
@TweeterMan287 2 жыл бұрын
does that tweeterman guy still have that annoying cat puppet smh 🙄
@bagoly.brick.studio
@bagoly.brick.studio 2 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@lawnside82
@lawnside82 2 жыл бұрын
3.11....so many memorys...jezzball and minesweeper....
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