Installing Apple's Rhapsody OS on the $5 Windows 98 PC!

[@Jesse78]

I find it cool af how you managed to take what would've been E-waste into something that's a core part of this channel

[@iYonga]

E-waste for ignorant people maybe

[@pishagerudo]

@@iYongaunfortunately that's most people nowadays especially when it comes to PCs

[@LifeWulf]

I mean, most people don’t have a use for such old hardware. We are the strange ones that enjoy playing around with it

[@shoba3]

E-waste store creator:bringuss studios

[@Longlius]

I'm glad Michael got to experience the joy of Unix filesystems before journaling became standard everywhere

[@Filipcreate]

Another comfy and nostalgic video from MichaelMJD 👍 ✅ Rhapsody ✅ A PC from the 90s ✅ Michael's comfy voice ✅ Comfy background music Seriously, one of the comfiest retro channels on KZbin. Keep up the great work Michael 💯

[@burts06]

I love the floppy disk wall. Keep up the great videos!

[@sterlingphoenix]

fsck -y will automatically say yes to everything. Which can occasionally be hundreds or thousands of questions.

[@mortonfamily8609]

Even better when it throws files into lost+found

[@cryodual]

"Hey, could you just let everyone who wants to come in my house in?" "oh sure! I'll let *everyone in*." "...Yeah. Everyone." ... *a burglar knocks on the door* "come in!"

[@monkeyman767]

fsck -y -f will still say yes to everything, but it will say yes to EVERYTHING, even files who's permissions shouldn't be changed at all. It's fun! (Never broke anything seriously for me, but did result in a few hour or two long troubleshooting sessions, ironic for a command meant to help)

[@Windows2000Professional.s]

​@@cryodual 10/10 comment.

[@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli]

What if you need to say 'no' to confirmation number 6,783 lmao

[@tech34756]

For anyone interested, SD2IDE/mSD2IDE adapters and SD2CF adapters also exist. These can be extremely useful and in the case of the latter worked on my Amiga with a CF2IDE adapter when an actual CF card didn't. Seriously, the mSD2IDE made working on my P3 rig allot easier to use e.g. drivers, Ghost backups, etc. and was one of the best purchases I made on that system. It basically turns a regular SD card into an IDE HDD. Edit: Just remembered, I have the mSD2IDE on secondary IDE, so if I'm messing around with e.g. OS/2 I can disable the primary IDE to protect my DOS/3.11/98SE/2000 install and just put a blank mSD in the adapter.

[@tech34756]

@CoruscationsOfIneptitude I believe they're the usual generic cheap chinese stuff, although the mSD2IDE identifies itself as a "Sintechi high speed cf to ide adapter" in BIOS and my CF adapter says "type 1 UDMA extreme CF adapter" Edit: Aliexpress might be the cheapest, although I got my mSD2IDE relatively cheap on Amazon and the CF adapter from ebay but that was a few years ago now so prices are likely higher.

[@treahblade]

There is another person on YT that tersted a few of these out and had no luck with them. I have a amazon one and it seams to work ok. It finds itself pretty much the same as yours, so there are people who have had issues with these adapters. I think its probably down to the translation chip in them and only some of them working ok with older operating systems...

[@tech34756]

@@treahblade If that's the case, I would recommend buying with 'fulfilled by Amazon' for easy/free returns (note: I have prime) or buying so cheap it's 'throwaway' money.

[@toyotaae86trueno]

"Installing Apple Rhapsody on the $5 Windows 98 PC but nothing goes wrong" never thought that would happend

[@ALMASHNI-MAN]

It was like that until he started messing with the graphics drivers.

[@toyotaae86trueno]

@@ALMASHNI-MAN yeah

[@masterkamen371]

​@@ALMASHNI-MANOpenSTEP is the worst OS ever when it comes to GPU support

[@EBTheOriginalMaster]

The good ol' $5 Windows 98 PC is back!

[@MarkRayers]

YES

[@burts06]

I'm satisfied he finally brought it back

[@UmarBlox5124]

finally

[@gozi9423]

Yes

[@thewubmachine840]

since 2022

[@livefreeprintguns]

IIRC, there was a bunch of code taken from FreeBSD/NetBSD to make OSX and I can only imagine a good portion of that ended up in Rhapsody as well... I only mention it because I recognize that maxmem boot argument being available in the CONFIG file for BSD kernels (although I think in the config file it was defined as another directive).

[@pappp1428]

The kernel underpinning NextStep/OpenStep/OS X/MacOS/iOS/etc. , which Apple calls XNU, is derived from the Mach microkernel with parts of BSD hybridized in to kernel space for speed. Those ancestors were there from the beginning, originally largely derived from Mach 2.5 and 4.2BSD-Tahoe. Avie Tevanian was one of the core folks when Mach was research at CMU, was hired by NeXT to refine it into their kernel, and oversaw the lineage as a commercial product at NeXT then Apple until 2006. Most of the BSD components in Apple's stack get updates pulled from FreeBSD, and the Mach parts were roughly synced with the last of the OSFMK releases in the late 90s, but (as the last major directly Mach derived project standing) have diverged considerably since. Apple actually publishes their open sources bits, including XNU, but missing enough proprietary bits they integrate to build a system that they aren't terribly directly useful. Amusingly enough, the 4.4BSD virtual memory system (which is the ancestor of the memory system in all the modern BSDs) was pollination the other direction - it was derived from Mach in the same era.

[@alexandermason-sx2og]

Looks like Rhapsody never got a Y2K fix. That 2-digit year is the very reason behind the whole freakout actually

[@Rajesh-Koothrappali]

You should name the computer the “bohemian” Then you’d have the bohemian running rhapsody

[@syahminorizan8064]

Is this real life? Or is this fantasy? Caught in a landslide No escape from reality Open your eyes Look up to the sky and see

[@hifijohn]

Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango?

[@Rajesh-Koothrappali]

@@hifijohn thunder bolts and lightning, very very frightening, me, galileo,

[@fusion5262]

by turning old into gold, micheal MJD has earned his spot as a tech legend. thanks for the amazing videos and keep up the great work!

[@MaskedGEEK]

Me watching the Rhapsody install finish without fault: "How is this going to be a typical MJD video if nothing goes wrong?" Rhapsody: "Oh don't worry my dude, I got plans for him." *Evil laugh*

[@miro007ist]

mjd brought back the golden age of KZbin

[@Gm_redacted]

Facts

[@GuyJames]

IDE, master and slave, subnet mask, fsck, 640x480... shudder..! (although I also find these videos weirdly calming, despite bringing back nightmares from the old pc days, like a perversely calm horror film)

[@ax14pz107]

Watching someone else struggle with it and not having to worry about having to get it to work for something that needs it like work or schooling really takes the stress out of it.

[@RetroGamerOG_]

The software looks surprisingly smooth

[@Hash6624]

might surprise you but apple USED to make quality products

[@mochafennec]

@@Hash6624 They still do, they're just very restrictive

[@JohnMiller-mmuldoor]

16:36 dude I literally had to do this this morning for a completely unrelated reason but apparently LInux mint botched an update- or the old mini laptop HDD IS ON ITS WAY OUT -and I had to do the same kind of repairs via FSCK but there were so many that I just started holding down the y key each time until it stopped. eventually, I got to screens that just flashed a bunch of random numbers all matrix style and my 7 year old son was like “what the heck is that?” and I guess it was each individual file-system blocks or inodes or whatever- I have no clue- but it eventually fixed itself and worked 🤷‍♂️

[@tizu69]

fyi, you can just use -y to yes all of them ;)

[@historyfan104]

cant miss an mjd video

[@burts06]

Ikr

[@BilisNegra]

0:40 x86 versions of NeXTSTEP existed already, so it makes sense.

[@WellBeSerious12]

Video idea: computer cosmetic/cooling/lighting modifications! Like cleaning/airblowing/repainting cool/unique/art(?) patterns onto older/cheaper computers. And maybe cooling modifications (whether through official or custom cooling holes, dust filters). And maybe cool lighting too!

[@Windows2000Professional.s]

5:43 I see that the "Mapped Memory" of the generic SVGA driver was 128K. If you upped that, you'd get color. Tho... I don't know why it defaulted to 128K of VRAM like it's a VGA card lol.

[@frauleinmiseryguts]

Rhapsody is my real name and hearing michael say it over and over kills me

[@mutestingray]

Love that warning about _preposterous_ time in the RTC 3:22

[@Kudlaty771]

Good to see that after all of this time, the $5 Win98 PC is still kicking. lmao

[@kingdiamonddev]

A new Mjd video is always a good thing to see

[@bad.sector]

It's possible the generic S3 driver didn't work with your card as there were quite some technical changes to the 2D core for Virge and later cards. I specifically know as I developed an S3 driver for my graphics library in the 90s. You should be fine with an S3 Trio64 (likely until V+, but not V2 or 3D, as it's based on the Virge core or similar), or below (Vision models).

[@solstickan]

Lovely that the Demos icon has the Aming boing ball infront of the folder. :D

[@Dragonfire511]

So that build of Rhapsody was not Y2K ready! 😮.

[@stolefromcloudflare]

that floppy disk covered wall is so 😍

[@raaymonf]

BABEEEE NEW MJD VIDEO

[@georgeh6856]

I'm not surprised that it would be that difficult finding devices and drivers to work on a pre-release OS which never shipped on Intel at that time. I am also not surprised that after several kernel panics/restarts on a pre-release OS that you would get uncorrectable filesystem errors.

[@wallyhackenslacker]

3:20 "Warning, preposterous time in real time clock -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!" this is the most forceful command I've ever seen come out of an OS! And the first time I see an OS use the word preposterous too.

[@tony714keene]

Dude! I like the 3.5 floppy card wall

[@RichardTroupe]

I love that there is an Amiga 'boing ball' on the demos folder.

[@RichsRandomRetroReviews]

If anyone moans saying that Mac OS X Server is not Rhapsody - well it is. 5.0, 5.1 and 5.2 were for Intel and PowerPC and were the Developer Releases. 5.3 to 5.6 was Mac OS X server. I think 5.3 was Server 1.0. 5.4 was server 1.1 and then 5.5 was Server 1.2 but then 5.6 was 1.2 v3 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhapsody_(operating_system)

[@macguest2379]

I love your video's all time and i tried to make this like you. Perfect video!!!😍😍😍

[@catfan5618]

This is some gorgeous pixel art black and white interface. They always took design very serious.

[@jjjacer]

@10:27 best guess at why you where only given B/W with SVGA Generic is that the mapped memory was only 128k so at that resolution it didnt give enough memory for grayscale or color. not sure if it lets you set a higher value.

[@fragglet]

Rhapsody was probably using the BIOS RTC interrupts which aren't Year 2000 compatible and only support 2-digit years. The MC146818 RTC chip used on the original IBM AT didn't support four digits either.

[@theofficialsyntheticvr]

Bro is the type of guy to say TODAY I INSTALLED WINDOWS 11 ON A POSTERAZZI APPLE MACINTOSH

[@Lampe2020]

15:44 I got basically exactly that error on Linux 5.x about a year ago, where I had somehow messed up the file system and it didn't dare to automatically repair, dumping me into the *(initramfs)* prompt and asking me to run fsck manually. When I did that it detected hundreds of errors and asked for each one if I wanted it to try to fix it, so I just "leaned on the enter key" exactly as one forum user had described he did at that point and after half an hour or so I was back at the *(initramfs)* prompt and rebooted successfully.

[@ggworksyt]

I love Michael MJD! Keep releasing these amazing videos please!

[@Kalataizgood]

yea : ]

[@burts06]

I agree

[@ggworksyt]

@@burts06 :D

[@nocturnal2868]

Another awesome video :)

[@nicodm6461]

Test

[@TheCommunistRabbit]

I love this video MJD, it really touched me deep.

[@notune424]

Bro , How you watch it in 11 minutes ?!

[@TheCommunistRabbit]

It touched me in the first 10 minutes

[@Jorge-so4zp]

Communism

[@nomlasaki]

was the touch consensual?

[@maddingue]

Back in that day, I installed Rhapsody DR2 (or was it DR1?) on my PowerMac. If I remember correctly, it didn’t include the blue box, nor had any way to execute legacy MacOS applications, and I think that was added when the system name was changed to Mac OS X. If you want to try other exotic OS on a Mac, there were a few Linux distributions available, like Yellow Dog. And even before that, Apple had released MkLinux, a very experimental OS based on Linux over a Mach micro-kernel.

[@livefreeprintguns]

13:32 ⚠ NOT Y2K COMPLIANT ⚠

[@williamkennedy8133]

You gotta add the PCI IDs for your card to the Driver plist for your display driver. Get an ATI Rage 98 in there.

[@Robert-Wip]

"Installing Apple's Rhapsody OS on the $5 Windows 98 PC" and everything went okay for once, at least for the vast majority of it 😋🫡 I was really ready for a new video from you, I really enjoy watching these as an IT professional that I am, so take this above with a grain of salt, it was only meant as a joke, just so you know 😉

[@mchenrynick]

Now I know where "Sticky" in Linux came from! I'm running Linux Mint 21.3 and Sticky still runs!

[@Lixxide]

I'd like to install it on an old computer too, any tips ?

[@whtiequillBj]

what is the general access speed for the CF card vs conventional SSDs? M.2 and SATA

[@MasterOfTechnology566]

did he use the cf cards that he bought with the cf card adapter?(out of curiosity,late comment)

[@courtneymertz4596]

Does the $5 Windows 98 PC ever run out of ideas? Course not! Great video as always!

[@ronny332]

It can't be clearer to see that macos is is a modified and heavily themed Nextstep,

[@test-rj2vl]

I like how finder icon was same then as it is now.

[@Lampe2020]

2:20 Interesting that Swedish is in that list even though the list is so extremely short with only six languages,

[@hypercube33]

3C905C was like THE card to have in that time period. I had a pile of them, probably still do somewhere. I had a few intels an AMD and that generic Novell 2000 card

[@harryroesser2763]

The famous five-dollar Windows 98 PC never gets old

[@DaVince21]

It's so funny to see those complex, terminal based initial installation steps considering this is Apple we're talking about. Even when it gets into graphical mode, it starts out with a terminal.

[@gentuxable]

I remember old Graphics cards tended to default to high refresh rates when autodetected under Unix/Linux so that CRTs wouldn't flicker but most LCDs don't support anything higher than 75 Hz and would say unsupported if that was the case. Maybe that's why it didn't work with the S3 card.

[@Nieczytelny_official]

I never knew about that OS. BTW i like your editing

[@AaronOfMpls]

Kinda surprised there isn't a "yes to all" option in fsck. But then I'm used to e2fsck on Linux, which _does_ have -y and -n flags (for "yes to all" and "no to all") you can use when running the command. _EDIT: Or maybe there is one hidden there somewhere, I dunno. 🤷_ Still, glad to see it _kinda_ worked (at least in b&w) until it didn't. 😎 I'd forgotten Rhapsody was a thing until retro guys like you and Action Retro started exploring it. Nicely done!

[@ocsrc]

Where did you get a 5 dollar PC ? I would love to find a place that sells old PC hardware from the early 90s

[@Yjola]

New video of michael mjd! Yeee

[@WellBeSerious12]

NextUSA sounds cool. Let's make it better this time around!

[@nevadaxelizabeth]

it is very interesting the demos folders have the boing ball from the amiga days. which is fitting as the amiga was known for its elaborate demos.

[@magicmulder]

The computers at my first job ran on OS 8, with OS 9 just around the corner. First thing I did was write a mail client because there was none on the machine.

[@ebridgewater]

So this was around the time of Windows 98 and in between NT 4.0 and 2000?

[@aquamarine2044]

Awesome video! Thanks for sharing! Maybe I should try should Hackintosh on my Asus P5K Premium Motherboard.

[@ramilxalilov5388]

True history Hackintosh

[@OltScript313]

Can we install Rhapsody DR2 on a modern hardware ?

[@OllyWindows2014]

Rhapsody OS - A Mac OS Invert!

[@tutupoponana]

Windows and Mac, the kings of computing

[@weepingscorpion8739]

Very interesting. And hmm.. I have some Matrox Millennium and Mystique cards so maybe I will try this myself sometime.

[@Redmage913]

So, what is the insulating R value for a wall of floppies? :P

[@MaksZieleniewski]

how do you record the install progress without a screen recorder?

[@samuelhulme8347]

It’s a capture card or a capture device. These devices are essentially a hardware based screen recorder instead of a software based one installed on the OS.

[@jbountalas]

I ran Rapsody for awhile back in the day. It was cool, but I preferred OS/2. They both ended up in the dustbin of history. I actually have Warp 4.56 running on a VM just for fun. Anyway, thanks for the review, it brought back a few memories.

[@taharashid6242]

This man's says in his old videos that he doesn't have enough floppy disks and now he has wall filled with em

[@RyanKarolak]

Neat video. Rhapsody is an OS I've always wanted to try. I don't have a great system to run it on right now... I don't think it'll work on my PowerBook Ti. Maybe I can get it working in emulation.

[@zafilerusse]

omg nice ! thanks for the video

[@wagnermarinho4972]

What about running Puppy Linux on your 98 PC? It's a modern OS that can run on really old setups.

[@sego209]

you have a lot of patience troubleshooting the drivers. I would have a gave up at a certain point lol

[@andresbravo2003]

now that's cool. Just to know that it needs color, but the drivers are quite unknown, even usable.

[@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli]

3:20 "Rhapsody Mach Operating System" - 'Mach' WHAT DA

[@roblox123admet]

$5 pc is back!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@Starhartdeer]

Holy crap. I like your wall.

[@AshlynOrSomethin]

Just started the video and there's no "but everything goes wrong" in the title... Does it work? will update this after watching.

[@AshlynOrSomethin]

Update + Spoiler: he had to switch pcs and the os version... Michael pls fix title :D

[@xXAce_TnTXx]

man this bring me joy

[@Michael-el7iy]

PLS make a review for the bb navigator for ps2 The BB Navigator for the PS2 was akin to an XMB (Cross Media Bar) user interface for the console. It seemed poised to be the original interface for the PS2, but perhaps due to time constraints, it wasn't implemented at launch. But it will be interesting For you to review it

[@hueluca]

THE $5 WINDOWS 98 PC IS BACK 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@soviet9922]

The cool thing about rhapsody is that you can run like 5 programs.

[@Nico93]

could there maybe be linked some boot floppy's?

[@pvisit]

I remember the same type of issues with drivers, screen, disk..... I am happy it's not the case anymoe.

[@aaesth]

can we get an update on the custom mystery 98 pc?

[@MrNicetux]

Where can i get the install files? 😮

[@nenamoree9]

LETS GOOOOO ITS BACK!

[@OnlyEpicEmber]

That $5 has gone real far

[@ecu4321]

You can run MacOS classic on x86? Is that emulated? Curious what’s system profiler shows there

[@Mertiib]

Mjd too good to miss out on

[@GarciaGamingFR]

is that a wall made of floppy discs???? at max like 1 gig storage