Michelin CrossClimate 2 vs Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 - Which one is BETTER?

[@TheTrueChoice]

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[@davesax11]

At 21k it was nearing time for new tires on my BMW i4 EV. Tire Rack had a package so i downsized from 19" staggered wheels and I ordered square 18" wheels with the Michelin CrossClimate2: 245/45- 18. The camber was set neutral for the tires, not aggressively as per BMW. 600 miles in, and the car rides fine. If I were to lose a few hundredths in speed at the track, I don't notice it in daily driving. I don't notice a difference in noise notwithstanding the aggressive tread. What i did notice is that the tires are a bit stiffer despite the larger sidewall. Weather has been cold for the northeast. Very pleased overall. Hoping to get 50k out of the tires with periodic rotation. For most of us, the cost and inconvenience of swapping summer and winter tires isn't worth it. Tire design is based on tradeoffs - normally traction under certain conditions and durability. Rating tires should include weights for driving under various conditions. Otherwise, dry weather performance is overemphasized. Safety in snow and wet weather is a primary concern for me.

[@TheTrueChoice]

Thanks for sharing your detailed experience with the CrossClimate2s on your BMW i4 EV! Downsizing to 18-inch wheels sounds like a smart move for ride comfort and versatility, especially with the aggressive tread of the CC2s. It’s great to hear they’re performing well in cold northeast weather, with no noticeable noise increase despite the tread design. Tire tradeoffs are definitely a key consideration, and it’s refreshing to see safety in snow and wet conditions as your priority-it’s what the CC2s are designed for. Wishing you many safe and smooth miles ahead!

[@davesax11]

@@TheTrueChoice I had ordered the car with 18" wheels but BMW switched it to 19s. The CC2s were available in 255 width but not 245/19. The original BMW 858 19" wheels 245/40 & 255/40 still have several thousand miles left on them. Debating whether to hold or sell....

[@raygowan1968]

I can’t speak to the Pirelli but I have the CC2’s on my CRV. They are smooth and very quiet. I live in South Carolina so we don’t get much snow for me to test them in. But have driven through rain around town and at highway speeds on longer trips with no issues. I have had them for about 2 months and 4k miles. So far they are some of my favorite tires I have owned. Definitely expensive but well worth the price.

[@TheTrueChoice]

Thanks for sharing your experience with the CrossClimate 2s! It’s great to hear they’re performing well on your CRV, especially in terms of smoothness and quietness. Sounds like they’re handling the rainy conditions in South Carolina with ease. I agree-they may be on the pricey side, but quality like that can make all the difference. Appreciate your detailed feedback!

[@guitarplayer4429]

Agreed

[@dannyboy1984]

I have the Michelin and they are amazing

[@TheTrueChoice]

Awesome to hear you’re loving your Michelins! They’re definitely known for quality and performance. Thanks for sharing your experience

[@guitarplayer4429]

Got mine yesterday on my 2024 CX5, love love love them.

[@ÖzgürBebek-x2s]

which ones are better for the BMW 435i with rear wheel drive? I come from Germany and how do you have a lot of rain and sometimes snow?

[@TheTrueChoice]

Great question! For your BMW 435i with rear-wheel drive and the weather conditions in Germany, the Michelin CrossClimate 2 might be the better choice. It excels in wet conditions and provides solid snow performance, which could be crucial for occasional winter weather. The Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3 is also a strong contender, offering good performance in mild snow and rain, but the CrossClimate 2 might give you that extra confidence in more challenging conditions. Let us know what you decide!

[@keithfarrell4928]

The biggest failing and a well known flaw of the Michelin is wet weather braking

[@TheTrueChoice]

Thanks for bringing this up! Wet weather braking can be a critical factor, and while Michelin tires excel in many areas, it's true that some models face challenges in wet braking compared to other brands. I’ll make sure to highlight this aspect in future reviews. Appreciate the feedback!

[@guitarplayer4429]

I don think that’s the case for the CC2

[@MassiveVictories]

​@guitarplayer4429 It's not. I'm shopping for tires and researching for the past month. It's actually well known to be good in wet weather.

[@jameskirk5415]

Is this relevant for california weather?

[@MassiveVictories]

I'm talking about tires KZbin! Wtf are u blocking my comments on tires for? This shit has gotten out of hand.

[@jasper60103]

Hi. I’m considering the Michelin CC2 for my 2020 Dodge Caravan. I’m on fence about the additional road they may create though. I’m hearing conflicting reports about that. Guess it could depend partly on the vehicle?

[@TheTrueChoice]

Hi! The Michelin CC2 is a great all-season tire, known for its strong performance in various weather conditions. As for road noise, it can vary depending on your vehicle and driving habits. Some users report minimal noise, while others might notice more, especially at higher speeds. It's true that factors like the type of car, tire pressure, and road conditions can impact the overall noise level. Since you're considering it for your 2020 Dodge Caravan, it might be worth checking out some specific reviews from Caravan owners to get a better idea. Hope that helps!