Michelin Enduro Medium knobby review︱Cross Training Enduro

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Cross Training Enduro

Cross Training Enduro

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@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
FURTHER NOTES! Read through these comments and you'll definitely find the occasional rider who hates these Michelins. Why? I've been trying to find out. This is an FIM approved knobby, which means the knobs aren't as high. It has a very light flexible carcass. All this is great for hard enduro, maybe it's not so good for faster riding and/or high air pressures. My best guess? If you do a lot of faster riding with wheelspin, you'll probably want a non-FIM knobby with taller knobs. If you love technical terrain and running low air pressures, you'll probably love this Michelin... if you can get it at a reasonable price! Read the comments and see what you think.
@houjous5131
@houjous5131 Жыл бұрын
Hey what's your thoughts on mix and matching tire brands? I am loving my shinko 705's front and rear but I want a more aggressive rear tire I am thinking keeping the 705 in front and put a 805 dakar TL on the back (890 adv) but there are a few brands I'd like to try out. I'm doing a second rear rim for context.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
I've mixed tyres quite often. I particularly like having a slightly more dirt-oriented tyre up front as I'd prefer the rear to slide around than the front off-road.
@jhill5002
@jhill5002 Жыл бұрын
I was here for a Motoz review. This is about Michelin. Fortunately, I just mounted a Mich Enduro Medium, yesterday. Excited to try it out.
@rehepeks
@rehepeks Жыл бұрын
Confusing as hell indeed.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Argh! I had stuff prepped for a Motoz review in a few months time after some good testing. Fixed. Hope you like it. One or two viewers haven't liked the tyre but didn't explain why.
@jhill5002
@jhill5002 Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro will try to remember to give you feedback. Mostly slow techy stuff with a few high speed trails in btwn.
@michaelthompson1720
@michaelthompson1720 11 ай бұрын
I was surprised by this review. They came on my Sherco 21 300 sef. Maybe it is the rocky terrain I ride but these were the worst tires ever. They sit in my garage still looking brand new. Ve33 or m5b on the back and m59 or gt216 in the front for me. I hear they are good on electric bikes because they are lightweight.
@geoffscott9364
@geoffscott9364 Жыл бұрын
Both my husqvarna enduro bikes came with these. Initially I looked at them and expected to take them off asap. One ride changed that opinion. They don't love wet conditions is my only gripe. I swapped the rear to a Pirelli scorpion xc mid soft which was clearly better in wet conditions, but maybe not so great on pumice/ rocks and roots. I then moved to mitas c18 yellow for dry conditions and xt754 for softer conditions. They have vastly superior traction in soft conditions, and they throw the worst roost my riding mates have ever experienced apparently. Great tires for my conditions. Tubliss front and rear, about 6psi on rear generally.
@markxuereb3450
@markxuereb3450 Жыл бұрын
I've been running the shinko 520dc for hard enduro. And absolutely love them. I run tubless allso around 4psi
@tikkabrno
@tikkabrno Жыл бұрын
Do you mean tubeless with mousses or neutech tubeliss?
@markxuereb3450
@markxuereb3450 Жыл бұрын
@@tikkabrno tubeless whit 4 psi
@tikkabrno
@tikkabrno Жыл бұрын
@@markxuereb3450 ok. That cleared that up 😂
@TimPaddy
@TimPaddy Жыл бұрын
Going from a shit tire to a great tire made a HUGE improvement for me, as a relatively low skill rider.
@markmtbrider
@markmtbrider Жыл бұрын
You never see the top riders running slicks for a reason
@double-oseven5725
@double-oseven5725 Жыл бұрын
The rear helped me crawl up an extreme hill with ease today. The front not great on hard pack but my px was high and I feel they would be magic paired with mousses. Love their light weight compared to starcross 6. Racing, ill buy the rear, trail riding starcross 6 med hard front n rear.
@dirtbiketrailrides
@dirtbiketrailrides Жыл бұрын
Enduro medium (+ Mich bib) 90/100-21 front, starcross 5 soft terrain rear 100/100-18 inner tube (enduro medium 120 wouldn't fit w/ moose bib, didn't try with tube but will after starcross wears out). I've only ridden with the new tires once (see video), but they felt so good on sand, dirt and roots. No longer do I feel sketchy on the front tire in sand, but its planted and will make its own path instead.
@Mrenjoy92
@Mrenjoy92 Жыл бұрын
It its the most used tire in my enduro club. Trial consists of rocks and water, slow speed. This is in Norway, and a rear 140/80-18 costs 180 aud (on sale)
@k2rtt3nen
@k2rtt3nen Жыл бұрын
Just installed second tire driving everything mixed from road to sand and between i must say that these are the best i have tried running with pretty low pressure on offroad and they do grip faster riding also.
@johnnywishbone831
@johnnywishbone831 Жыл бұрын
Michy's are good but you're right on the price. I've always loved the Mitas "EF-07 MAJESTIC ENDURO" single green stripe for the rear. Even the Orange is good (Medium). They used to ~$140 but now a bit pricier. Still a great FIM gummy hard enduro tyre. Cheers
@geneharrogate6911
@geneharrogate6911 Жыл бұрын
I find my 200 / 55 Michelin race slicks at 2 psi and 80 deg C superb on sandstone escarpments.
@antonioaraujo99
@antonioaraujo99 Жыл бұрын
Michelin Enduro Medium is a great tire, but as you say, very expensive, even here in Europe - they go for almost 100€. If you are doing hard enduro but not climbing trees and extreme slippery stuff at a pro level, it works very well with a soft mousse like a Nitromousse, Mitas or X-GRIP. I have gone through many Mediums, and they lasted me an average of 60 hours, with tread still to ride. If you really want to know what traction is and need a FIM tire, the Michelin XTREM is surreal. It's so sticky if you lift your bike after having it on the side stand you can hear the rubber gripping the ground. I know it's not cheap and doesn't last very long, but for extreme races that would be my tire of choice, if I had the budget. Pair it with a soft mousse for the best results. Another cheap alternative is the Shinko 216. I currently have the MX version in 140, and the Medium beats it by a mile. Good for general enduro riding, but in technical and slippery terrain its a nightmare. The SX version on the otherhand is fantastic, very cheap, great traction, even with flat knobs. Just my 2 cents
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Good feedback, Antonio. It's a shame the Michelins cost so much in Europe too. I was hoping we just had a greedy distributor in Australia and that you guys could buy them at a reasonable price. 😒
@johnnyvanpottelberghe
@johnnyvanpottelberghe Жыл бұрын
i don't like them when it is soft mud,now i have x-grip jack the gripper,i love them
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Yep, the FIM style knobbies work great in a lot of conditions but not as good in soft mud, sand or loamy soil it seems. Taller knobs will be better.
@ErzbergAdventures
@ErzbergAdventures Жыл бұрын
recently put one on the rear for the Kozi Killer a while back. Blew me away for the grip and stability it provided compared to the previous 2 tires i tried. I luckily picked mine up where you guys got your bikes at for half price. Somebody bought a New bike but didn't want the FIM tires on the new bike!
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
What air pressure do you usually run? I'm interested because a handful of viewers hate these tyres, but maybe they don't work well at 15psi?
@ErzbergAdventures
@ErzbergAdventures Жыл бұрын
@Cross Training Enduro im running tubeliss on the ktm. Usually around 3-6 psi. Even at low pressure it was surprisingly good on the local trail ride with high speed corners.
@lukefish7562
@lukefish7562 Ай бұрын
I cannot decide which tire to get my te300i for the mountain woods of North Carolina which is a lot of rock but soft ground too. 🤔
@middleageddirtscooter7883
@middleageddirtscooter7883 Жыл бұрын
Try the Bridgestone E50 Extreme. Cost alot and can be tough to find but gets AWESOME traction!
@brian_schutte
@brian_schutte Жыл бұрын
I have a 22 sherco 300…love the bike! the stock Michelin front tire seems alright…the rear was crap (imho), switched to a shinko 525 rear tire, and seems to hook up much better. Also like a few of the IRC tires
@hopemosley117
@hopemosley117 Жыл бұрын
That rear tire looks identical to the Shinko 140 that came on my 23 Xtrainer.
@C3Enduro
@C3Enduro Жыл бұрын
I’m on my second rear for my 2022 XTrainer and have no reason to change. Wasn’t thrilled with the front. Went with an IRC front but don’t like that either.
@darcymcfarlane1797
@darcymcfarlane1797 Жыл бұрын
I was loving these tyres with the tubliss at 5psi. However I sliced it open and was unable to be plugged. I had noticed it had minor cuts all over the tyre.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Was that in rocky terrain, Darcy? We ride a lot of hard enduro rock sections but admittedly at low speed. We've never had issues with cuts... yet.
@haroldb5635
@haroldb5635 10 ай бұрын
Trying the front tire out here in East Tennessee. Running UHD tube at 11 psi. Slow, tight singletrack with rocks, roots, and mud. Unpredictable handling to say the least. Traction here, front end slide there. Came across a 2” branch across the trail and the tire just slid sideways across it. Why oh why did Goldentyre discontinue the GT233?
@HardEnduroLlewellyn
@HardEnduroLlewellyn 9 ай бұрын
My go to is a GT216AA for hard enduro and enduro. I’m in Pennsylvania, I don’t think I’ll ever run a different front tire. I hope they don’t discontinue it. Super predictable and lasts FOREVER. Can run it at whatever psi you desire.
@Veksi8
@Veksi8 Жыл бұрын
Best tires with mouses so far!
@Ntyuask
@Ntyuask Жыл бұрын
I've tried the front on my dual sport. It excelled offroad and was a great tire! I found it a little soft and unpredictable for the highway though. When I was doing hard enduro all the time like you blokes ride my go to, cheap setup, was the shinko 216mx up front and 525 cheater in the rear running low psi's.
@OriginalUsername9000
@OriginalUsername9000 Жыл бұрын
For dual sport go with michelin trackers instead.
@Superdrew_23
@Superdrew_23 Жыл бұрын
What is the price of the IRC JX8 in ASU? It’s my go to rear here in Utah. I run it with the plushie moose just because lol.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Actually I've never heard of it, Andrew. A quick Google search under 'Shopping' in Australia should show it.
@Superdrew_23
@Superdrew_23 Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro Looking like it's around 130-160AUD on the google bot. A bit crazy how much more they are way down there.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro It’s a “super gummy” with a stiffener in the sidewall. I have a durometer and it measures softer than the Shinko 505 and 525 tires on the main treads, but, and here’s why a lot of my crew runs it, the sidewall keeps it from feeling like a marshmallow when you’re doing any faster connecting trails. Then when you get it into the forest it’s grip city. I’ve run the 505,525, GT216 but I like the JX8 best for the forest. IRC also has the VE33S which measures as gummy as the 505 and 525, but again has a better sidewall feel in corners. No feeling like it’s rolling under. The VE33S is better for faster “hard enduro” and loose shale like hill climbs.
@frogzie
@frogzie Жыл бұрын
Moneywise in Australia, wouldn't it make more sense to replace the whole Sherco instead of just the Michelin's?
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
😂
@jonnoMoto
@jonnoMoto Жыл бұрын
My go to front has been the Michelin enduro medium. Works well just about everywhere. I've never worn one out but I do find the edge knobs break off far too soon. Meh on the rear. A lot of the places I ride tend to have clay mud. I tried the 120 & 140 and gave up with it. Much prefer the mitas xt754 green stripe (red stripe really is only suited to mud). Better in mud but worse on rocks and life. But they've gone expensive like the mediums. Currently using Michelin trackers because the enduro mediums are so expensive. They're better than I thought they'd be. Acceptable in most places but awful on rocks.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
It's weird how almost any brand will occasionally have the side knobs break off on the front.... including expensive Goldentyre. Manufacturing flaws? Occasional bad batch of rubber or silica?
@gg4760-k5n
@gg4760-k5n 10 ай бұрын
Been riding Trackers front and rear and I can only say good things about those. They are cheap, grip well in any conditions and wear is very progressive so they last long. I suspect they use the same rubber as the Medium but since the knobs are bigger and taller you have more to wear. Sizing is a bit weird tho, I took a 120/90 same as the Medium but they size like the 140/90 Medium.
@davidgalovic9473
@davidgalovic9473 Жыл бұрын
Hi I ride every week with tubliss and I only use second hand tyres I get free from a tyre shop , like you say it’s skill over tyres
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Yep, another viewer said even crap tyres become good if used with TUbliss at low pressure. I tend to agree. Possibly this Michelin works really well due to its light weight and thinner carcass. It just wraps around rocks and roots when used with TUbliss.
@tknutt
@tknutt Жыл бұрын
I run the rear Enduro on my EXC-F. High traction confidence off-road, very low braking confidence on-road. I mostly only ride asphalt for getting to nearby trails, no highway.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
I just fitted Motoz Rallz to my DR650, I'll be just easing my way into testing them on road corners lol. Especially wet roads!
@bnashvegas
@bnashvegas Жыл бұрын
I run Michelin enduro mediums with proper size Michelin bibs. East coast USA hare scramble racing 50A(minus😂). Absolutely love them. Sometimes run m59 front as it takes same Michelin bib size. My 21 beta race edition came with Metzler extreme they were great too. Those are hard to get here so switched to Michelin.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Жыл бұрын
I’m in PA. Do you find the lower knob height on the Michelin Medium makes them more stable going over rocks and roots? I’ve been running IRC JX8 110/100-18 which has tall knobs. I’ve been looking at what the Euro guys use and they seem to swear by 140/80-18 with the FIM knob sizes.
@bnashvegas
@bnashvegas Жыл бұрын
I think so. I love them we have lots of rocks and roots here in tn and they are great. I think they side hill better than any tire I’ve ever ran.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Жыл бұрын
@@bnashvegas Sweet. I just got a new rear but I’ll try the Michelin Medium for next tire. I’ve been running the Michelin Enduro Medium 90/100-21 front since last year and it’s been great.
@glossblack1098
@glossblack1098 Жыл бұрын
Really like these tyres too on my Husky 300. But like you I can’t fork out that money in Australia to replace them. I just ordered the Michelin star cross 5, which are quite a bit cheaper and meant to be very good. Will find out soon. Cheers
@adamutuber
@adamutuber Жыл бұрын
I thought it was industry standard that the Mich StarCross 5's & 6's were the bee's knee's, top shelf, best of the best?
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Keep us posted on how the Starcross goes.
@markmtbrider
@markmtbrider Жыл бұрын
Wear , traction, performance at multiple speed ranges and terrains , give the IRC VE 33S gekkota a go.
@Dutters.dirtbikes
@Dutters.dirtbikes Жыл бұрын
Haven’t tried them because the tread depth is so low it wouldn’t do well for the deep soil I ride and like to go fast. Ve33s rear and 80/100 goldentyre has been my perfect match 👌
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't think the FIM style of knobby is going to do well in those scenarios
@markmtbrider
@markmtbrider Жыл бұрын
Can't beat the Irc for traction ,wear and overall value here in southern oh ,KY riding. Hail the gekkota ve33s
@Dutters.dirtbikes
@Dutters.dirtbikes Жыл бұрын
@@markmtbrider for sure 👍 it’s been the most versatile tire iv tried so I’m staying with it. And the goldentyre 80/100 gives me razor sharp steering for aggressive corners
@Dutters.dirtbikes
@Dutters.dirtbikes Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro for sure but I’m very interested in hearing more about that front tire beings that almost all the pro use it. Maybe it’ll give me more powers.
@thumblessturnip3392
@thumblessturnip3392 Жыл бұрын
My 22 Sherco had these from factory as well and personally, I could not get any traction out of them for the life of me. Ended up switching to Michi Starcross 6s after about 3 rides and haven't looked back.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Interesting... what sort of terrain? Everyone on Shercos in our state raves about them for hard enduro riding.
@thumblessturnip3392
@thumblessturnip3392 Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro central West Vic. Get a mix of clay, clay quartz and loamy dirt/mud. Dunno what it was but even sinking as much weight as I could onto the rear I just never got it to hook up.
@cowpker4life333
@cowpker4life333 Жыл бұрын
​@@thumblessturnip3392most likely due to the Michelin enduro being fim approved short nob and desgined for rocks/river beds vs clay/sand/mud.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
That could well be it. Higher knobs would probably be better in the loamy stuff. Could be riding style too? For faster riding with lots of wheelspin the FIM style may not work as well?
@cowpker4life333
@cowpker4life333 Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro think mainly type of terrarin. Faster trails you would want stiffer nob or carcus(normally tire pattern is good enough for what desgined for) but can easily fix with more air pressure give extra stability.
@petergibbons1394
@petergibbons1394 3 ай бұрын
I've got 150hrs on my 2022 TE300 TPI and have only just swapped out the original rear Michelin Enduro Medium that is still incredibly grippy. I ride fast but snotty single track with about 8psi and handling is excellent. Unfortunately the $250 price tag is a bit hard to justify....but hey 150 hrs! Mmmmm?
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro 3 ай бұрын
That's the problem. Great grip and longevity but stupidly expensive... at least in Australia.
@sarahdell4042
@sarahdell4042 Жыл бұрын
Tires are so darn subjective. I hate those Michelins for hard enduro
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Interesting! What are your typical condition, Sarah? Mud? Rock?
@sarahdell4042
@sarahdell4042 Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro Boulders,roots, and really good loam if I’m lucky. I found the front to wash easily and the rear to struggle with roots and boulders. I ride with tubes and generally keep 8-12 psi in tires. Hard to beat the M59 or X31 front. There’s 3 gummy rears I love, and cycle between. VE33S is probably the best overall as it lasts awhile and is predictable. Everyone is very opinionated when it comes to tires though! I ride with people who I couldn’t keep up with if you paid me all the money in the world, and they always have completely worn tires. 80% rider sounds about right :)
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Maybe they don't behave as well as other knobbies at comparatively high pressures? We all run TUbliss at about 3psi and these Michelins hook up really well.
@cedricboivin9422
@cedricboivin9422 Жыл бұрын
I ride a dual sport and I really like trial tire on the rear. They wear well and grip like crazy. I was wondering if you ever tried it? It's really popular in the hard Enduro world, but I have never seen you with one. If you've never tried it, is there a specific reason or you just never cared?
@jonnoMoto
@jonnoMoto Жыл бұрын
It's good until you come to mud, descents or cornering.
@cedricboivin9422
@cedricboivin9422 Жыл бұрын
@@jonnoMotoI totally agree, but so are most tire made to last a significant time on the road
@jonnoMoto
@jonnoMoto Жыл бұрын
@@cedricboivin9422 maybe 50/50s. I'm currently using michelin trackers which I heard LADV people talking about. It's pretty good offroad
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
I reviewed the Motoz Hybrid years ago which is similar to a trials tyre but longer lasting. As other guys say, no much chop when it comes to longevity, mud or faster cornering.
@hillfurnishings
@hillfurnishings Жыл бұрын
2psi with any tyre is going to give unbelievable traction. Do you run 2psi in the front too? When ever I try running less than 5 on the front it feels like I wack tree roots and rocks too hard… I suppose that’s not in first gear though…
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
This is using TUbliss though. It hold the tyre so firmly that it's like having about 3 psi in there already. So when we pump them up to 2psi it's effectively like 5psi. I think I run about the same front and rear. But if it was a faster ride I'd probably put in 6psi so I effectively had something like 9psi just to protect the rims and get better high speed handling.
@BlessureK
@BlessureK Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved the set that came on my 300 SE for hard stuff. Such a light tyre and the traction with slow riding on hard terrain is insane. Coupled with the Sherco's ability to lug at really low revs, it's fantastic - a few times I was amazed how when I'd fuck up a hill climb but not stall and maintain traction to get up it. But yes AUD price is ridiculous so went to Goldentyre GT216 & 333 since, which suit make more sense since I ride fast more often than slow. If I'm riding only fast stuff I'll go with a Starcross rear with the GT216 front.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Sherco luggability... it's awesome! In our experience with recent models on the Beta comes close.
@dathonlawler81
@dathonlawler81 Жыл бұрын
I’m on my second IRC M5B rear. I’m a podium C rider(but no 1st places yet😢 The tire is 96 dollars. I’ve owned about 8 different tires since I started riding in 2019. They are gaining a lot of sales in the US. I would consider this in your lineup. And they are a smaller company and may send you one for free.99
@todayweride4779
@todayweride4779 Жыл бұрын
Is there a stockist in australia for them? curious
@MrJacksmithFTW
@MrJacksmithFTW Жыл бұрын
I don't like the michelins medium. I run mitas terra force double green line. in my opinion a far superior tyre. would like you to try them
@hachtenduro7824
@hachtenduro7824 Жыл бұрын
Mitas double green is really very good.Still - "Far superior" may be not adequate here, you compare a gummy compound to a durable medium/soft version. The gummy version of Michelin is what you should compare - and then Michelin will be more than equal (Michelin is choice of top riders for a reason)
@MrJacksmithFTW
@MrJacksmithFTW Жыл бұрын
@@hachtenduro7824 don't really agree. I think the Michelin xtrem is only comparable to the maxxis supersoft. But if you want to make it more fair you can compare the single green and even that I think is far superior. The Michelin is good when new but as it gets worn It loses a lot the mitas wears much nicely
@petercash3614
@petercash3614 Жыл бұрын
Nice tracks
@krisb2136
@krisb2136 Жыл бұрын
I accidentally got a Dunlop 120 wide rear when my last 110 let go. Had to make some trailer adjustments but it's a bloody ripper. Side question, is there any tyre that works on slippery wet clay?
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
We don't encounter that slippery clay often, Kris. But I imagine a hard compound would work well so it didn't flex. High knobs spaced well apart to resist clogging up. And a good straight edge. E.g. once the knobs round off, reverse the tyre or use a knobby knife to get a straight edge again?
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been running the Enduro Medium 90/100 with standard mousse since last year. It’s the first front tire setup I’ve done that feels good to me straight after a fresh tire and mousse. But they are $$$
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Expensive in the USA too? Bummer. I figured we just had a greedy distributor here. 😢
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro Yeah it’s $121 US for the Michelin 90/100 front versus $80 US for a Shinko MX216 90/100-21 Cheater front.
@nyuhonda569
@nyuhonda569 Жыл бұрын
that true
@juliomaciel4766
@juliomaciel4766 Жыл бұрын
My beta300 2020 come whit that tyres but to me isn't a good tyre for technical terrain and whit tubs is worst. I prefer use in front the muitas c19 super light 90/100-21 and on rear tubliss and use Kenda knarly 778 or shinko sx216. Just my opinion.
@jasonjackson1259
@jasonjackson1259 10 ай бұрын
Amateur opinion based on decades of hooreing around irish enduro’s: These are a great tyre to benchmark against others. Pro’s; The grip is mega, due to the compound and soft carcass. The compound is so good, they continue to grip when they are well worn. With a mousse, they are the perfect allrounder. They are super light weight. Cons; They are bloody expensive. They are almost a mousse-only tyre, as they are super thin. These tires are by a fair bit thinner in the sidewall than most. In my experience, these aren’t great with tubliss as every ride you have to plug a hole or slit. I have found that if I want all these pros without the cons (Except for cost) -metzeler six days extreme. Similar properties, proper sidewall.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын
Great summary 👍
@tim8deb
@tim8deb Жыл бұрын
Where is the Motoz review?
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Won't be a few months as we just fitted them. But I prepped the files and got them mixed up, doh.
@grantbowen5047
@grantbowen5047 Жыл бұрын
Kenda Knarly 140 for the win.
@nothinyaseehere9449
@nothinyaseehere9449 Жыл бұрын
I just put a Michelin on the front and d606 on rear
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Interesting... a D606 on the rear. Is that to get good wear on the road?
@nothinyaseehere9449
@nothinyaseehere9449 Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro yeah mate it’s a hard wearing rear tyre great for hard rocks n bitumen. It’s never let me down once
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Cheap too!
@nothinyaseehere9449
@nothinyaseehere9449 Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro dirt cheap!! I’ve got 3 on other bikes, the oldest tyre is 7 years old n it’s a little bit dull compared to the brand new one…
@eugenesimons3726
@eugenesimons3726 Жыл бұрын
What tire should I get 🥹
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Black. Round. With things sticking out of it.
@andrewskears6169
@andrewskears6169 Жыл бұрын
What do you classify as “faster riding” ??
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Non- hard enduro, I guess. Mostly third to sixth gear?
@eugenesimons3726
@eugenesimons3726 Жыл бұрын
My dealer gives me all the take offs when guys don’t want the Michelin on there I don’t understand why but Free tires
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Wow. What a bargain. Is this the Michelins on Shercos in particular? They are an amazing tyre. And very expensive in Australia.
@hachtenduro7824
@hachtenduro7824 Жыл бұрын
Confused: shouldn´t the Video title be starting "Michelin...", not "Motoz..." So many tyres - so little time.... The Michelin have replaced my standard tyre Metzeler "6days" as rear tyre. Because of softer compound and carcass. Bad performance on wet clay is typical for round knobbies+soft carcass+low-pressure - you need fresh rubber there and a bit more pressure imho. The Michelin have a rotation direction, but I found no disadvantage when turning the tyre rotation to get sharp edged knobbies again. Alternative: Metzeler 6days soft (not supersoft) are a bit similar to Michelin. And Mitas Terraforce green stripe also. With front tyre I am less picky, but prefer stiff pressure for predictable precise cornering on everything with more than slow speed. Still I find Michelin is great (a single complaint - edge knobs tend to break early unfortunately). Alternative e.g.: Bridgestone M59 or the new X31. Mousse by Michelin is also really great. Be aware the Michelins need larger mousse than most and their mousse is also large. The Michelin equipped with their mousses is my gold standard for allround riding with hard enduro included. Cheers from Germany!
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Doh! I had stuff prepped for a Motoz review in a few months time after some good testing. Fixed.
@timhenrywoodard9583
@timhenrywoodard9583 Жыл бұрын
I disagree on your take for tires. I’m a beginner rider and struggled until I changed those rock hard stock tires on my Beta. Once I had some softer rubber it felt like I was a much better rider. Tires are cheap in the US. Around $100 to get a new tire that can last all season.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Interesting. So it was definitely Michelin Mediums on the USA Betas? I thought they came from the factory with Maxxis knobbies in recent years?
@todayweride4779
@todayweride4779 Жыл бұрын
Not a chance in hell would i pay that much. Ive used GoldenTyres and Shinko 525. If i struggle to get grip its my lack of knowledge about pressures and general riding techniques that are stopping me, NOT the two tyre brands I have mentioned. I think its taking the piss.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
I suspect the Aussie distributor is just trying to cash in?
@todayweride4779
@todayweride4779 Жыл бұрын
@@crosstrainingenduro yep
@DarkFox6211818
@DarkFox6211818 Жыл бұрын
??? Barry, I'm confused - the video title and thumbnail say MOTOZ, but you're talking about a MICHELIN I use the MotOz enduro I/T and S/T on my DRZ and CR, both excellent tires.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Argh! I had stuff prepped for a Motoz review in a few months time after some good testing. Fixed. 🤦‍♂️
@ThePhilippSchepers
@ThePhilippSchepers Жыл бұрын
Im very confused now
@dmelson7502
@dmelson7502 Жыл бұрын
It's obvious that you all do not understand the science of tire reviews. I shall now give to you the scientific method... If I successfully pull off a maneuver that looks both competent and stylish it is of course me. If I attempt to pull off a maneuver and crash and burn in epic fashion, it is of course the tires....
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
So true 😂
@eljuano28
@eljuano28 Жыл бұрын
Life savings is gone. Retirement is not available for a decade and a half more. Paycheck to gas tank and groceries and rent and insurance and taxes, .. There's hardly enough left to keep the ten year old bike up and running. Steal, cheat, lie, hide, sneak, and if you're kids don't like it, they can pay for their own college. Just ride!
@dougiep8464
@dougiep8464 Жыл бұрын
I buy tyres by the sort function, cheapest to dearest. In oz the shinko cheaters have been coming up winners lately
@SWTrailsAndWheels
@SWTrailsAndWheels Жыл бұрын
Title needs correction?
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Doh! I had stuff prepped for a Motoz review in a few months time after some good testing. Fixed.
@daves3016
@daves3016 Жыл бұрын
Ah bummer, dude put in wrong title and is sound asleep in AUS.
@dmumladze
@dmumladze Жыл бұрын
I don’t know about tites but fkn beautifuk forest 👌
@Dotconvict12
@Dotconvict12 Жыл бұрын
Everything is Australia is now over priced. Things are getting out of hand.
@postmortemspasm
@postmortemspasm Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe these tyres get good reviews. To me this video proves that low pressure is all you need to have good grip. I could not stand these tyres on my Sherco 300. Absolutely no grip when bike is leaned over any more than like 10 degrees, they have such unpredictable edge grip, especially on the front. The front reminds me very much of the D606 front; it gives way at any moment without warning. Also they've a pathetic amount of tread, I believe they are FIM approved which means a measly 13mm knob height. The knobs are so small and so far apart, I really dont understand why. I put on a pair of Starcross 5 mediums and they were 10 times better. They lasted quite well too. I then put the old Shinko 216 + 525 pair on and they also grip as good as the starcross (but not better), but the 525 seems to be wearing quickly. I think I'll be sticking with motocross tyres after this Shinko pair are done. I run 12psi + HD tubes because I cant justify the $400 AUD for tubliss, especially when the only guy in our group who runs tubliss has more trouble and punctures than the rest of us. We do a combination of slow hard enduro and fast open riding and any tyre gets sloppy handling below 10psi at speed anyway. Fun fact: the Michelin Enduro rear are labelled as 140 width, but measure about 10mm skinnier than the Michelin Starcross 5 which is labelled a 120. Measured either knob to knob or sidewall to sidewall. Riddle me that.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
It's a strange situation, I think there have been four viewers now who said they didn't like the Michelin. Is it just different riding styles, terrain and air pressures? Who knows. Ditto for TUbliss, in my limited experience 95% of users are converts and love it. But then you get that occasional situation where there are endless issues. The manufacturer will usually say it's not following the instructions closely. But it could be the occasional manufacturing defect. Almost everyone is my broad riding group is on them now and no problems over about seven years....
@ThrottleAddiction
@ThrottleAddiction Жыл бұрын
Wrong video title... or clickbait.
@crosstrainingenduro
@crosstrainingenduro Жыл бұрын
Doh, wrong title. I'll review the Motoz later after a good test but got the files mixed up.
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