Michelin Pilot Sport 4S vs Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport - Long Term Real World Test

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This is a long term real world tyre test of the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and the new Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport.
1,500 miles were driven on each set of tyres on an e92 BMW M3 and BMW M2 Competition in the dry, wet, hot and cold!
Both tyres are excellent road and track UUHP tyres (ultra ultra high performance), and both have very similar grip and performances in the dry and wet, so this video mostly looks at the subjective handling and feel differences of the tyres in the real world, including comfort, noise, steering feel, steering feedback etc.
This video was shot before the Covid-19 lockdown.
Thank you to Specialist Tyres in Letchworth for helping with the fitting and letting me film the introduction there.
Any questions or comments please feel free to ask below.
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@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
As I know a lot of people will be asking about wear, here's my take: Wear is interesting. No one has done a proper test on these tyres, and sadly for me it's too expensive and time consuming to do properly. as you need to drive both sets of tyres for around 10,000km in convoy so you cover EXACTLY the same roads and conditions. What I can say is this. Michelin is regarded as having a wear advantage in this (and all) segments, however recent testing shows that Goodyear and Continental have caught up, and in some tests, overtaken Michelin. See this link as an example: www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2020-Auto-Bild-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm It will be interesting to see how people find the Goodyear once reviews start appearing on the website. The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S definitely wears very well for this segment.
@stewartmacdonald601
@stewartmacdonald601 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask exactly this. As if these tyres really are so closely matched, then wear rate would maybe come into play a bit more. I have a set of Eagle G1 A5's on my daily car just now (2015 Focus 1.5 TDI), and have put around 18k on them so far. And there is still loads of life left. Quite impressive. So much so, that having recently bought bigger wheels for it, I put the same tyres on again, but have yet to swap the wheels over. When I do, the old wheels will hopefully go on my 2007 Clio 197 to "finish off" the tyres. Also because the Clio currently has some Toyo rubbish on it just now.
@PetrolheadTours
@PetrolheadTours 4 жыл бұрын
Having switched from the factory MSS to MPS4S on one of our M2’s, I think we may switch to the Eagle SS on our other M2 and see how they compare back to back. Our two cars do the same miles under the same conditions so we should be well placed to have a go 👌
@onehorsepower
@onehorsepower 4 жыл бұрын
In one month I'll have had mine a year. Three previous sets were Michelins. Can't say I can notice they wear any faster...
@gap816
@gap816 4 жыл бұрын
More than Wear I'd be interested to know the consistency of the tyres through time, and not just of one set but multiple examples of them in different DOT's. Which will be best in let's say 3 years time with some heat cycles in them. I know new are good but I know it's practically impossible to rightly measure that. Enjoyed the Review though!
@florianfixman9604
@florianfixman9604 4 жыл бұрын
Wear level is important but finally what counts is the level of performance remaining. You can have a 75% weared tire which is better than a 50% weared tire (see comparison between weared Michelin and new budget tires!). So this require to do also measurement test along the wear test...
@advancelast1740
@advancelast1740 4 жыл бұрын
I’m the average driver but find these videos and your passion and knowledge very engaging. The internet at its best!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Fabiek3
@Fabiek3 4 жыл бұрын
I love to listen how You tell about the tires. Feelings! and all that we can not read in other tests. Keep it up!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :) The best tyres are so close now in terms of grip, feeling is the biggest difference (and even then it's quite small!)
@Fabiek3
@Fabiek3 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews Everybody wants to be the best, so that's why feelings are even more important then numbers!
@jaxcze9238
@jaxcze9238 4 жыл бұрын
@@Fabiek3 Everybody wants the best, so that is why we are waiting for "Tyre-reviews" man! And here he is, finally thanks god!
@MisterWrench
@MisterWrench 4 жыл бұрын
I had PS4S on my previous car, Subaru WRX and loved them. I just changed to a Golf R and first thing I did was change tyres from the stock Contis. I’ve decided to give the Eagle F1 Supersports a go. So far done 2500km on them, and like this review says, they are very close. I’ve had ZERO grip issues in the GYs so far. They make the car handle like it’s on rails, and I would know as I am a train driver 😆
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them :)
@AlphaSierra101
@AlphaSierra101 4 жыл бұрын
Mister Wrench how to they compare the the continentals?
@MisterWrench
@MisterWrench 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaSierra101 the contis that were OE fitted were ContiSportContact 5P. The GY's are miles ahead, better in every way apart from maybe a bit noisier.
@spookyreaper1702
@spookyreaper1702 4 жыл бұрын
Your car is awd? You’re not going to have grip problems
@MisterWrench
@MisterWrench 4 жыл бұрын
@@spookyreaper1702 Having AWD doesnt automatically mean your car will be able to put down 100% traction all the time. If that WAS the case, I could put $20 tyres on my car and it would run exactly the same. I pushed the stock Continentals on the Golf R, and felt they were at their limit fairly easily, whereas the Goodyears have a lot more in them. Same with the stock Dunlops vs Michelins on my previous Subaru WRX
@GusUruguay
@GusUruguay 3 жыл бұрын
Just impressive the info you give us in the channel. I'm changing tires, watching many of your videos to make the right choice. THANK YOU!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@GroovesAndLands
@GroovesAndLands 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is amazing. Keep up the excellent work!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@LawrenceAbramoff
@LawrenceAbramoff 4 жыл бұрын
OMG, I'm buying new tyres tomorrow and I was thinking of these 2. Thanks so much!!!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know which you go for!
@LawrenceAbramoff
@LawrenceAbramoff 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews I'm leaning and will probably go PS4s again, only because it's what's on there now. I have 600Nm At the hubs at 2,300 RPM and I can't tell if it's wet or dry outside. They are such a good tyre and I am hesitant to switch as these are so good!
@geewilliams2178
@geewilliams2178 4 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed while in lock down. A tyre review fix. I run 4S's on my Mazda 6 sport and they are great. Used to have the old F1's they were nice too
@JasonLee-hz6sd
@JasonLee-hz6sd 4 жыл бұрын
Finally the review I've been waiting for! Both tyres have such good reviews so brilliant to get a direct head to head comparison, looking to fit to my 2014 Audi A4 black edition 255 35 19
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you decide :)
@maXXik1337
@maXXik1337 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you managed to keep video fairly short and still informative. Great job. Also these more deatil head to head battles need to happen way more often, it is by far the most interesting format to look at (i understand it needs a lot of driving and time, but still). Would like to see PS4 vs GY5 vs Premiumcontact 6. Sometimes in future ;)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
If it makes any difference, I have PC6 on my own car
@CartubeCoIl
@CartubeCoIl 4 жыл бұрын
As always, great review. Thanks.
@Jdogg2568
@Jdogg2568 4 жыл бұрын
Great 👍🏼 review always enjoy your videos good job keep them coming
@joeybbbbbz
@joeybbbbbz 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for your review, enjoyed it!
@user-rm8fg5qk1h
@user-rm8fg5qk1h 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, so Michelin to front wheels and Goodyear to rear wheels.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
... now you've said that I'm say I didn't try it!
@R6VIIshooter
@R6VIIshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t BMW advise against mixing tyres? Everyone I know who owns a performance bimmer tells me they munch tyres if you do that
@konradkuczkowski9408
@konradkuczkowski9408 4 жыл бұрын
I thought same... But what was the size its 19" isn't IT? So maybe because of stiffer tire profile, maybe with 18" Good Year will be good at front ?🤔
@band1t620
@band1t620 4 жыл бұрын
mind...blown, perfection
@muumuumu
@muumuumu 4 жыл бұрын
@@R6VIIshooter mixing tires is not recommended by any car maker.
@saqs
@saqs 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy!
@caseyworthington7092
@caseyworthington7092 4 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews! Brilliant.
@Saavvvv
@Saavvvv 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, the one I've wanted to see for a while! Amazing how many people over look the Supersports, I've got them on my car and I think they're amazing.
@385949862
@385949862 3 жыл бұрын
The supersports are the predecessors to the ps4s. Having driven both, especially the wet performance of the ps4s is way better. In most other aspects the tires are quite similar while I‘d still give the ps4s the all around edge there as well (which might be due to my comparison being based of new ps4s and well used 3 y/o pss). All in all there is no reason for me to prefer the pss.
@Saavvvv
@Saavvvv 3 жыл бұрын
@@385949862 I was talking about the Goodyear eagle F1 supersport. Not the old Michellin supersport.
@385949862
@385949862 3 жыл бұрын
@@Saavvvv oops, embarassing😅 Thanks for clearing that up.
@Saavvvv
@Saavvvv 3 жыл бұрын
@@385949862 lol no worries
@gwebby1
@gwebby1 4 жыл бұрын
I've had the Michelins on my evo now for about 6 months and by fare the best I've driven. Mite give the Goodyears ago next time and see. When did the Porsche experience in 911 gts drove on Michelin and pirelli on that day and Michelin gave more front feel and better turn in. Great review again keep up the good work thanks
@v35skyline22
@v35skyline22 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video - Thanks for the comparison.
@sergioserramusic
@sergioserramusic 4 жыл бұрын
I always love that you test the tyres on my dream car ❤️
@pastorofmuppets8834
@pastorofmuppets8834 4 жыл бұрын
It is lovely isn't it? I'd still prefer a review done using my car, in case the result is different on different cars.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
It really surprised me how much I loved that car!
@philipjamesparsons
@philipjamesparsons 4 жыл бұрын
I did buy the F1 SS, on the basis of your previous review; they are superb. On the road they are as stiff as you'd want but good wet and dry. I've also used them on track for 500 miles. In the dry, they are probably about as fast as Nankang NS2R semi slicks. In the wet they are awesome and work even in very cold temperatures. These are ideal tyres for those that want a UHP tyre that works on the road and in all likely conditions on the track. Price was £400 fitted in 235/40/18, cheap I'd say
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Great info, if you get time leave a review on www.tyrereviews.co.uk!
@emcfarlane1591
@emcfarlane1591 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for tyre for my daily car fwd 400 bhp but would like to do the odd track day as well reading you're comment has made my decision cheers
@adyg8221
@adyg8221 4 жыл бұрын
Philip what's your thoughts now on the supersport tyres, I'm picking some up tomorrow for the focus rs, cheers
@jonah9165
@jonah9165 2 жыл бұрын
hows the wear on them?
@tredfxman
@tredfxman 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered them yesterday to mate for my Stage 1 GTI Clubsport! Been super happy with Dunlop Wintersport's as for comfort! As Goodyear owns Dunlop shall be interesting to see if a winter & summertire could be compared comfortwise? 🙂
@ziggyfreud5357
@ziggyfreud5357 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I have tried both on my M3 and have enjoyed both - no losers here :)
@alexgalanopoulos
@alexgalanopoulos 4 жыл бұрын
8:16 "With the PS4S, braking was so good that the M2 was rear-ended by a lorry. Ahhhhhhh, phew, not today."
@voodoonights1671
@voodoonights1671 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant detailed info. Just what I need - if I am ever aloud out again! :-)
@5thgearouttahere
@5thgearouttahere 4 жыл бұрын
Great to have you back Jon 🏁
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@PM-oj5si
@PM-oj5si 4 жыл бұрын
I’m with you love the feedback of the Goodyear’s.
@mas921
@mas921 4 жыл бұрын
Really like how you explain the differences between the tires! I think I'll try the good years up next! Been with the pilot's for awhile now so would want to try something new ;)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@rainoor947
@rainoor947 4 жыл бұрын
Have a full set of Michelin PS4S on my C63, I believe it’s the only tyre that aspires confidence and the grip you need with all the torque the car has to offer on UK roads and varying weather. Wear has been great too, 5k miles in of pretty hard driving and still looking good on the rears. Decent offers on Kwik Fit usually so not crazy expensive either on 19s
@matt-rw6li
@matt-rw6li 4 жыл бұрын
Amazingly detailed review loved the content brother keep it up you have my sub! 👌
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@minischrauber2695
@minischrauber2695 4 жыл бұрын
I'm driving an old Mini Cooper S Clubman (R55) and never was really happy with the tires i used. After your first video about the sport tires i changed to Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (the old set was worn out). This is an excellent tire. I'm really happy with it. Thanks for your testing.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them :)
@GamersOfTwoMinds
@GamersOfTwoMinds 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing review and brilliant video thank you
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@Blerk350z
@Blerk350z 3 жыл бұрын
I have had the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on my 350z for 3 years now. (245/35R19 front and 275/35R19 rear). They have been absolutely awesome. I think either would be a great choice but I’d likely get the Michelins again when they are done.
@rodpaine7552
@rodpaine7552 3 жыл бұрын
Great review and quite similar to our experience with our 2019 Audi RS 3 now running 18x8.5 Neuspeed RSe10 wheels, using the Michelin in 245/40/18 size. The additional tire height helps survive our poor country back road conditions, that killed the stock 235/35/19 Pirelli SUMMER ONLY tires within THREE DAYS! Keep up the great reviews and we certainly appreciate your work!
@tredfxman
@tredfxman 2 жыл бұрын
Haha i say the same! Never Pirelli again! Didnt like any aspect of them compared to my Dunlop Wintersport 5's. Also driving a sandy gravelroad each day here! Yesterday ordered the Goodyear F1's! 👍
@rodpaine7552
@rodpaine7552 2 жыл бұрын
@@tredfxman Thank you! Now at 36,566 miles of which 26,320 have been fast country back roads, the present Michelin's are about to be replaced with new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, which our European friends have suggested, who are also driving Audi RS 3 on their fast country back roads, with very good performance results.
@charleslackey6275
@charleslackey6275 4 жыл бұрын
Entertaining and good information! Well done!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Perleques
@Perleques 4 жыл бұрын
Great content. Real world comparative feedback is so hard to get these days! it would be great if you could do the same for pilot sport 4 vs Asymmetric 5 vs continental, as, at least in my country, are more common day to day tyres :)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
I'll work on it :)
@wtfdididolastnight
@wtfdididolastnight 4 жыл бұрын
Just what i needed, been 2 weeks of not selling any rubber with the lockdown. The Supersport is something to try for all of the M and AMG drivers! 🙏🏻
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
The worst part of lockdown is the lack of driving! (and gym)
@SushiParty
@SushiParty 4 жыл бұрын
My Kia Stinger GT came with the Michelins and after watching your review between the two sets I think the Michelin is more suited to my car. If I had something like a golf R or veloster N, I might be more inclined to go for the goodyears for that teenage angst.
@michelperrotti7824
@michelperrotti7824 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect as usual
@jm9371
@jm9371 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Just put a set of 4S's on my M2... a step up from the stock Conti 3's
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet, chuck a review on the site if you get some time :)
@DontPanicDear
@DontPanicDear 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I really enjoy the road reviews 👍🏻 I love the way Goodyear always ‘Invents’ a brand new tyre, that happens to always look like the latest version of Michelin Pilot Sport. SO many generations now 😂 They’ll be good but I just don’t trust Goodyear as a company. PS4S is amazing ALL THE WAY to the wear indicators.
@Rmf8
@Rmf8 4 жыл бұрын
I wish they would offer these in a 17inch!!! Great video! 👍
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@brianhackettZ06
@brianhackettZ06 3 жыл бұрын
I think I need to try the Goodyear F1s next on my C6 Z06 .. I love these reviews !
@christopherlewis3615
@christopherlewis3615 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you!
@madsdgdhg
@madsdgdhg 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. 👍 Here's the thing... the F1 SuperSport is the only UHP tire available in 18" in europe. And is usually considerably cheaper to buy. So, for me, it was an easy choice,and I'm very happy with them.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
It's lovely they're in 18"
@rsbmeriksson4468
@rsbmeriksson4468 2 жыл бұрын
This chanel should have so much more attention and subs
@whoisgoogle
@whoisgoogle 4 жыл бұрын
Excellentnreview thank you
@jamesv5858
@jamesv5858 Жыл бұрын
So useful to know this as I’m headed to the Cote d’Azzure in a new car that has these Eagles fitted. I kinda know their wet capabilities now- thanks for sharing this.
@tonycook1858
@tonycook1858 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I went with a set of the Goodyear Supersport's in my Megane RS, great tyre
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Great, feel free to leave a review on www.tyrereviews.co.uk sometime :)
@adyg8221
@adyg8221 4 жыл бұрын
Tony what's your thoughts on the supersport tyres, I'm getting some tomorrow, on a focus rs, cheers
@larryhernandez5062
@larryhernandez5062 4 жыл бұрын
Always informative . . . Stay Frosty . Thanks
@AlexandruCandet
@AlexandruCandet 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a new video...😁
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@Billy123bobzzz
@Billy123bobzzz 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Lollakuk
@Lollakuk 4 жыл бұрын
Only thing missing is to toss Continental SportContact 6 in there! Awesome video as always!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
They got a mention :)
@xtcnrice
@xtcnrice 4 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video, in another amazing M2. Thank you! Would love it if you could do a review of Extreme Performance Summer tires (such as Hankook RS4, Michelin Cup2, Advan AD08R, etc.) in dry and wet as well. Thanks again!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
There's a video on the channel covering this, but I hope to do more this year :)
@rogeliogamboa7644
@rogeliogamboa7644 4 жыл бұрын
once again - awesome video - thnx'
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@771bjy
@771bjy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks the review, really enjoyed it! Decision made pretty easily for me! 4S doesn’t come in 19s, I enjoyed your 4, 4s and cup comparison too. Nice to have someone trying mix quantitative and qualitative tyre testing!! They’ll be some Goodyear SuperSports to replaced the Michelin SuperSports on my M140i 😍😍
@muumuumu
@muumuumu 4 жыл бұрын
what you mean man, you definitely can get 19s ps4s
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know how you get on with them!
@ArneBergsch
@ArneBergsch 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, did you experience some of that understeer he described? I drive an M2 Comp and I‘m wondering which to get…
@echan5471
@echan5471 4 жыл бұрын
Great review thanks! Would love see a review of the Pirelli PZ4, still cannot decide which set of tyre to purchase next. Many Thanks!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
PZ4 seems to be more comfort and less handling
@church493
@church493 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another good review. And yet another that makes me angrier of these "holy trio" tires by each praising review, due none available in 17" in EU. I'd wish to get any of them, but 18" seems only size they start come off, with lesser sizes covered only by more street oriented (PS4/Asymmetric5) or much more track oriented models (Cup2). Nothing for R17 from this "sweet spot" of inbetween, except older models like PSS/AD08R. No clue, how manufacturers guide themselves on choosing sizing lineup, no clue why latest tires of this class in 17 are sold in USDM only.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree :(
@omaralmaghrabi
@omaralmaghrabi 4 жыл бұрын
Liked! As usual great review Jonathan. I can attest to every word said about the PS4S. It's just a great tyre and for those asking about wear, I have put 10000 km on my 600hp Mustang with 6mm of tread left on harsh Australian Bitumen. I was waiting for your review on the Goodyear F1 supersport which seems like an impressive offering. As you pointed in the video: I guess price will be a deciding factor for my next set (Michelins are now offering rebates and cash backs to stay competitive as many good tyre offerings like the Contis are offering a bang for a buck performance).
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you end up deciding!
@omaralmaghrabi
@omaralmaghrabi 4 жыл бұрын
Tyre Reviews Ended up going with PS4S on the merit (and you will not believe this Jon) the price! The Goodyear given it’s currently being newest bestest are going for a premium of $50 more per tyre whereas the PS4S is going for less cash back included ($100 discount if you buy 4).
@kev9386
@kev9386 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersports based on your previous track test review and they are a great tyre. Good feedback, good grip level and value for money. 👍
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying them :)
@kev9386
@kev9386 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews I'm a tyre engineer for Pirelli Motorsport so it's great to hear both subjective and objective reviews on the road tyres, excellent channel, very informative! 👍
@billybeartku
@billybeartku 4 жыл бұрын
@@kev9386 what do you think of the Eagle F1 SS in the wet vs PS4S? I have owned ps4s before and debating if I should give F1 a try. Where I live rains about 40% of the time in a year. so I do care a lot about how the tyres perform in the wet
@adyg8221
@adyg8221 4 жыл бұрын
Kev what is thought in the supersport tyres now you've had them for a bit, cheers
@LorenzoClara97
@LorenzoClara97 4 жыл бұрын
I f*****g love this channel. Every time you upload a video or an article on the website I go crazy because I'm also a tyre fanatic. They are the most important part in the handling of a car Love it By the way I never opted for uhp tires (except I tried some falken fk510 last year) because I run semislick every time except in the winter 😂😂
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Always nice to know it's not just me that's a tyre geek :) Also love the semi slick attitude!
@cerbie70
@cerbie70 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. It's nice to know that either tyre would be a photo finish. Personally, my next set will be the Goodyear because they are what I'm familiar with. However, I'm hoping the super sports are a step up from the asymmetric I have currently. Of course, what is the best tyre also depends on what car it is put on. I'm using 265/35/18 on the back - 225/35/18 on the front of a 1250kg TVR Cerbera, so there is not much weight on the tyres, especially at the back.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Look forward to your review!
@_IMNNO
@_IMNNO 4 жыл бұрын
Went from Bridgestone RunFlats to Michelin PS4S on my R60 Mini 10months ago. Night and day difference, and haven’t looked back.
@esametsala3054
@esametsala3054 4 жыл бұрын
Guru has spoken ☺️ Keep up the good and interesting work!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@esametsala3054
@esametsala3054 4 жыл бұрын
Tyre Reviews Your reviews are best, not only because you can drive but because you really do detailed work. I’ve been driving since I was 1,5 sitting on my fathers lap ☺️ Then 9-19 karting. I have experienced Nürburgring since 1990. So, I call myself enthusiast 😇 and I can see same in you. You don’t know, how much I smiled when you drove GT2 RS with the new GY’s 😁👍👌 So, really, don’t change your style, your doing greate! All the best, stay healthy. p.s. My friend Alec owns a race track called Gotland Ring, in Sweden. If ever need to do business to business track days, contact him.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
@@esametsala3054 Someone has told me about Gotland Ring before, it must have been you or your friend Alec? It's on my list of places to visit :)
@esametsala3054
@esametsala3054 4 жыл бұрын
Tyre Reviews Hi 😁 , it hasn’t been me but I’m a friend of his, so You can tell greets from me, Esa Metsälä. His e-mail is simply alec@gotlandring.com He would love to tell You his future plans! If You want to experience Gotland Ring via video footage, please look Tim Schrick playing there with Porsche Cayenne Turbo Hybrid 👍 All the best, stay healthy! Kindest regards, Esa
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
@@esametsala3054 I'll have a search, thank you. If he ever wants to get in touch find me on insta or email jonathan [at] tyrereviews.co.uk :)
@andyp8464
@andyp8464 4 жыл бұрын
1st ! Great review ! Been waiting for something like this for a while ! Posted 3rd as I watched the video first :) Agreed with michy 4s going less progressively than say the mpss Btw how would you rate the latest dunlop sport maxx?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
RT2 is same technology line as Asym 3, if you want to get a Goodyear Dunlop tyre, the Asym 5 is the one to have
@morganvon5664
@morganvon5664 4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a set of Pilot sport 4s for my 2012 911s. It is a quieter tire than the old super sport. It also feels a bit softer, which kind of shocked me for what is supposed to be an ultra high performance tire. It is a very good tire, but maybe not as sporty as the old one.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, sounds about right. Better grip and comfort, but slightly less direct
@michaellourie4252
@michaellourie4252 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a prior clarification about a Continental tire. Here is my question. Using 225-40-18, which would be the better tire in the following situation between the pilot sport 4S and the extreme contact sport >>I am a spirited driver!!>>triple digit mph dry conditions high speed cornering...let's say a long downhill right in the outside lane with good but not perfect pavement wanting to push the car as much as possible...which tire will talk to me more so I know where I stand...not wanting to get surprised by the rear end letting loose when I think it is still having traction...will the michelins talk to me with their own language and is that language hard to learn?...will the michelins do a little more speed, but the continentals will talk to me more? How is the grip level beween the two? Which would you prefer to use during dry pavement hard braking? MANY THANKS in advance!!
@_xtreme.
@_xtreme. 4 жыл бұрын
i always put pressure on sidewall test .good for you
@nickmatthews4939
@nickmatthews4939 4 жыл бұрын
After a recent MOT on my Alpina Roadster, I was advised that my tyres could do with replacement (yipee - the Falkens are going) My previous experience with the PS4s was WOW, they just never failed to impress. The inbuilt rim protection was also a real benefit when running 30 ratio tyres. I shall hold off purchasing until this pesky virus allows us out again. I don't want flat spots on my new tyres 🤣 Great review and a 👍🏻s up
@adriangroves145
@adriangroves145 4 жыл бұрын
What falken mate and what was up with them, I was goi g to get the fk510 but went with the Goodyear f1 supersports yesterday hopefully the best choice
@tredfxman
@tredfxman 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the *Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport's* yesterday for my precious GTI Clubsport (tuned at 370hp bout 500tq at the moment). Did only order 2, so kinda waiting for next summer when having the full 4 to the floor setup! 😄 Bought Dunlop's Wintersport 5 before as winter tires & loved these esp for the comfort. Its interesting because iv read Goodyear owns Dunlop. Makes u wonder if the same composition in rubber is used to create comfort etc..? 👍
@band1t620
@band1t620 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for information between these two tyres since your last video with pretty much no success, I was scared to buy F1's because i just didnt know if theyre going to be good enough all round, now i know i'd be happy with either one thanks to you :) Too bad i just bought a new set of PS4S but next year Im going to try F1's, maybe till then goodyear will revise the tyres and make them even better I know one thing, goodyear just flicked michelin nose
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love your feedback once you've run on both sets!
@kangerman8
@kangerman8 2 жыл бұрын
I have just had these put on my Nissan 370z gt edition yesterday 245 40 19 front 275 35 19 rear and I can only say that the review given saying they seem to make you want to drive more is 100% spot on. I am amazed by these tyres it's almost like you know exactly what's going on all the time,hard to explain but you take of quick from a junction and the rear gived a nice little flick out but was like it was in slow motion and you have time to access exactly what's going on without even having to think. As it was late when the fitter had finished at home I left it till this morning to go test them,I went out at 11am to go get some shopping and I walked through my front door just before 4pm and forgot to even go the shop lol. Obviously this is my own personal opinion on my car and with this being my 187th car I do have a little experience with the feel of different cars, tyres etc. I have to go back to what was said about the tyres make you feel like you want to keep driving and I discovered something today that I had forgotten.! When you have your music on feeling totally relaxed driving hard and you feel like the car is part of you and you have thay tunnel vision waiting for that next piece of road you can smash that red line. Already I know what some may think that I am being a bit dramatic but for those reading who understand a naturally aspirated 370 bhp through rear wheel drive on a nice dry day will get it. I really am genuinely amazed. Oh and by the way I'm 50 this year and today I felt like I did when I got my 1st car mu little xr2 fiesta when I was 18.🤪👍👍👍
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad you like them :D Get a review on www.tyrereviews.com please sometime!
@baumy1542
@baumy1542 4 жыл бұрын
after watching a few videos here i decided next tire change i was going to get something sporty. Decided on the Michelin PS4, went out and got some liberty 17" rims for my 07 impreza (NA) and got a set of 4. the change in handling is crazy, less body roll, better braking, wet performance is utterly amazing compared to the previous Yokohama's i had. Overall tire life seems to be doing better than the Yokohamas (AE50) with less sidewall wear and with much better dry and wet handling and as a bonus only ended up being only $60 more for 4 PS4's over the AE50's. While the car isn't anything performance oriented the bonus in handling makes it heaps better for windy roads
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying them :)
@boyteebah3794
@boyteebah3794 4 жыл бұрын
based from personal experience, I am getting good results from my goodyear tire...original tires were conti and wear was pretty fast on those... would like to try michelin but too expensive...
@b-zero3190
@b-zero3190 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. Based on this video, I decided to switch from michelin to the goodyear on my M2. I am looking forward to the result.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Ooo let me know how you find the switch!
@heisenberg5452
@heisenberg5452 4 жыл бұрын
and?
@PatrickNFD
@PatrickNFD 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review man! I'm thinking about getting the AD08RS for my E36 as a road going fast road car... any chance of a review on that?! Top work as always.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
It's on the list for the M3, if that ever gets built :)
@bbbt8090
@bbbt8090 4 жыл бұрын
Had the AD07s, pilot super sport, 4s and Firestone Indy 500. The Ad07 side wall was e-mazing, seemed like I had put on a set of stiffer springs on my car. Overall the 4s is still the best street tire for the money and wear.
@Mucus1972
@Mucus1972 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks! I recently fitted PS4S replacing PSS and they are far superior. I also have them on a M2C. Really keen to know what tyre pressures you run and recommend please?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
I've not played with pressures yet so have run stock
@TurboPeeen
@TurboPeeen 4 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. Additionally it would be good to know the weight of each tyre and after 1500 miles on both, what the wear rate was
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
A nice idea, but without convoying cars, wear testing is very unreliable which is why I didn't mention it.
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review! After being a big Michelin fan since the mid-00s for performance tires, I've lost a lot of enthusiasm with the most recent generation of Pilot Sport, basically because the feel has gotten more comfort-oriented. That direct engagement and impossible-to-overheat feeling from the Pilot Exalto PE2 and Pilot Super Sport now seems to be more readily found in a Continental Extreme Contact Sport or Bridgestone Potenza RE-003. Given the price premium for a Michelin, they will not be my next UHP tire buy.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you try next!
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews I already run the Conti ECSs on my Miata and they are really great tires!
@kenlawton1531
@kenlawton1531 4 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews. Will you be doing another multiple summer Tyre comparison again? I have Maxxis VS5 on my car, brilliant Tyre so far. Would love to see how they stack up against the competition. They seem to get reasonable reviews.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Assuming we can ever go back to work, it will be a 16" summer tyre test this year, going back to bigger sizes next year :)
@integritymotorcar2334
@integritymotorcar2334 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video...thank you. Had a thought for a new video. It would be nice to see a comparison between an OE, and non OE tire of the same make and model. For example, a Porsche 911 driven with Michelin PS4S N1 vs. Michelin PS4S without the 'N' rating. We seem to get customers every so often that ask if there is really a difference. For us, the difference is substantial with respect to how they fit on the rim, the types of numbers they yield on our balancing equipment, what they feel like when driving, and how well we're able to align the car. I'm also curious about your background that led you into tire testing? Keep up the good work and stay healthy. Thanks again.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
I'm HOPEFULLY shooting MPSS * (BMW OE) vs PS4S on an M2 as soon as lockdown is over! There was no direct path for me into tire testing, luckily I'd had support of some great companies years and years ago which was a huge plus
@MartijnvandeGrift
@MartijnvandeGrift 4 жыл бұрын
Tyre Reviews I’m deciding between those two on my M2. For which should I go?!
@Maxzor11
@Maxzor11 4 жыл бұрын
I went with the Goodyear's because they where like 300€ cheaper. Really happy with them!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Great, feel free to leave a review on www.tyrereviews.co.uk sometime :)
@safekraka
@safekraka 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative. I have a Mk3 Focus RS and My pilot super sports are just about gone. Loved them as a fast street tyre. I am gathering that the 4s will be just as good?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 3 жыл бұрын
They're different. There's a view videos on it :)
@kotfast
@kotfast 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a real life test of the Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 vs Michelin PS4
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
I shall work on it!
@RobHolroyd
@RobHolroyd 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews Yes do it! So many car enthusiasts debate on this one.
@boabm6522
@boabm6522 4 жыл бұрын
I ditched my PS4 for F1 Asy5 and IMO (for my car anyway(FWD)) the GY is a far better tyre, steering is much more responsive and sticks to the road like glue in the wet, the PS4's at time felt like driving on ice. Not had much dry road time but I'm sure the will fair just as well as the PS4's.
@stockholmsweden4122
@stockholmsweden4122 4 жыл бұрын
I really like your work, well done ! I just wonder why there is no review's about PIRELLI on your channel ? I was thinking it is second best brand after Michelin?!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes availability, sometimes experience, sometimes market demand
@john_c1
@john_c1 4 жыл бұрын
Very subtle livery :))
@Cola99967
@Cola99967 3 жыл бұрын
7 years with PS4s, for me the best tires, thinking of trying the F1 next season, shall I try or not?
@felixb9146
@felixb9146 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, as always! Can you please let me know which of the 2 has the wider thread, hence better rim protection? (i know that the tested sizes are exactly the same, however there seem to be differences in width between producers, on the same exact tyre size). Thanks in advance!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 3 жыл бұрын
wheel width doesn't always equal rim protection, they need a extra bit of rubber to add that
@Lfkoda
@Lfkoda 4 жыл бұрын
I use Michelin as I find them to last longer too. 9k miles done wear is minimal :)
@beeswaxx3.8
@beeswaxx3.8 4 жыл бұрын
The Michelin looks a little wider for being the same size as Goodyear. The Goodyear also seems like a heavier tyre.
@krisc6644
@krisc6644 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your last tire-review i chose the goodyear eagle f1 supersport over the michelin p4s for my 2016 civic type r, they were also quiet a bit cheaper per tire, and if they are around the same. Just got them yesterday, so with the corona shit it is somehow of a wait to see if it was a good choice… but grip with a fwd is my main concern.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see your review!
@MartinSTI02
@MartinSTI02 4 жыл бұрын
It´s good to know science, lap times, brake distances etc. but as you said today top tier tyres are so close that making review just about tyre characteristics and behaviour is the best thing you can do. Tyres are so close but every car is different and mostly have different tyre size. So if you are more GT driver in M5 you should probably use different tyre than for your trackday M2 and is good to know which has less noise or more feedback even if difference is small. Thank for great review!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect points :)
@Easy2take
@Easy2take 4 жыл бұрын
How about Pirelli P Zero? How much worse are they compared to Michelin PS4S? I'm currently driving P Zero Nero 245/40 R18 but they are not enough...if I slam my brakes hard on a dry road, ABS is poping until I stop, I would like to get tires with more grip.
@notchipotle
@notchipotle 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I was looking for
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you liked it
@leonnovak3319
@leonnovak3319 4 жыл бұрын
I bought Michelin Pilot Sport 4S last year. I did little over 40.000 KM, super pleased whit performance. Style of driving - lets say enthusiastic, nothing to crazy. Now front tires are worn on the edges (alignment is OK), centre has around 3-4mm of meat, rear are worn in the centre down to 2-3mm because I was driving whit a bit to high tire pressure - on purpose. They have around 10.000 KM of tread left, so I am planing to use all of it and buy new set of Michelin's. They are highly recommend for daily whit a lot of highway use. I drive Mercedes C 200 CDI.
@30_sum
@30_sum 2 жыл бұрын
Those goodyears got a jolt to them! Been stuck with goodyear eagle sport tires for past 5 years. I was surprised to hear that Michelins are quieter. I thought goodyear were pretty quiet tires when I first tried them. Makes me think about sound-deadening.....
@S50CLL
@S50CLL 4 жыл бұрын
These are the two tyres in consideration, when the factory fitted Potenza S001’s need replacing. I really rated the PS4’s on my Clio, now I have the Megane, running 19’’, I can experience the PS4S. I don’t rate the Potenza’s tbh, cornering grip is ok and feedback is decent, but there seems to be a severe lack under acceleration. I guess I’ll have to flip a coin to decide. Great advice, thank you 👍
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, wet grip is bad on the Bridgestone too
@douglasshouganai2516
@douglasshouganai2516 4 жыл бұрын
May go for the Goodyears for my next set. Darn Seattle rain.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
Not a bad shout!
@mark340d8
@mark340d8 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, full of interesting and useful content! Goodyear F1SS seem to be more fun to drive but for a daily use I fear they might be a bit too stiff and noisy, this could bother me... I’m about to get a BMW M340d, on 19” wheels, and I want tyres with great performances but also with a decent level of comfort: considering both aspects, in your opinion what could the best choice be between the PS4S and the Conti’s SC6? I have the SC6 on my actual car (Audi A4) and they are great, with the only issue being fast wear, but they deliver plenty of grip, precision and comfort... Thanks again!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 жыл бұрын
PS4S should have a little more comfort. I think. Maybe. It's so close now!
@mark340d8
@mark340d8 4 жыл бұрын
Tyre Reviews Thank you Jonathan! 🙏🏻 Between the two which one would you choose... and why? 😁
@stepwaymotivation4661
@stepwaymotivation4661 3 жыл бұрын
*Would it be ok if I put Michelin for the fronts and Goodyear on the rears? (I have 2015 F-Type R RWD)*
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 Жыл бұрын
Ive put over 3000km of spirited driving on a set of Super-sports and they are holding up well in wear. Where I live has a lot of 35Km corners, so good tires are king.
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