Michelin Pilot Sport 4S vs Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport - Long Term Real World Test

[@tyrereviews]

As I know a lot of people will be asking about wear, here's my take: Wear is interesting. No one has done a proper test on these tyres, and sadly for me it's too expensive and time consuming to do properly. as you need to drive both sets of tyres for around 10,000km in convoy so you cover EXACTLY the same roads and conditions. What I can say is this. Michelin is regarded as having a wear advantage in this (and all) segments, however recent testing shows that Goodyear and Continental have caught up, and in some tests, overtaken Michelin. See this link as an example: www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2020-Auto-Bild-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm It will be interesting to see how people find the Goodyear once reviews start appearing on the website. The Michelin Pilot Sport 4S definitely wears very well for this segment.

[@stewartmacdonald601]

I was going to ask exactly this. As if these tyres really are so closely matched, then wear rate would maybe come into play a bit more. I have a set of Eagle G1 A5's on my daily car just now (2015 Focus 1.5 TDI), and have put around 18k on them so far. And there is still loads of life left. Quite impressive. So much so, that having recently bought bigger wheels for it, I put the same tyres on again, but have yet to swap the wheels over. When I do, the old wheels will hopefully go on my 2007 Clio 197 to "finish off" the tyres. Also because the Clio currently has some Toyo rubbish on it just now.

[@PetrolheadTours]

Having switched from the factory MSS to MPS4S on one of our M2’s, I think we may switch to the Eagle SS on our other M2 and see how they compare back to back. Our two cars do the same miles under the same conditions so we should be well placed to have a go 👌

[@onehorsepower]

In one month I'll have had mine a year. Three previous sets were Michelins. Can't say I can notice they wear any faster...

[@gap816]

More than Wear I'd be interested to know the consistency of the tyres through time, and not just of one set but multiple examples of them in different DOT's. Which will be best in let's say 3 years time with some heat cycles in them. I know new are good but I know it's practically impossible to rightly measure that. Enjoyed the Review though!

[@florianfixman9604]

Wear level is important but finally what counts is the level of performance remaining. You can have a 75% weared tire which is better than a 50% weared tire (see comparison between weared Michelin and new budget tires!). So this require to do also measurement test along the wear test...

[@advancelast1740]

I’m the average driver but find these videos and your passion and knowledge very engaging. The internet at its best!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you!

[@Fabiek3]

I love to listen how You tell about the tires. Feelings! and all that we can not read in other tests. Keep it up!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you :) The best tyres are so close now in terms of grip, feeling is the biggest difference (and even then it's quite small!)

[@Fabiek3]

@@tyrereviews Everybody wants to be the best, so that's why feelings are even more important then numbers!

[@jaxcze9238]

@@Fabiek3 Everybody wants the best, so that is why we are waiting for "Tyre-reviews" man! And here he is, finally thanks god!

[@MisterWrench]

I had PS4S on my previous car, Subaru WRX and loved them. I just changed to a Golf R and first thing I did was change tyres from the stock Contis. I’ve decided to give the Eagle F1 Supersports a go. So far done 2500km on them, and like this review says, they are very close. I’ve had ZERO grip issues in the GYs so far. They make the car handle like it’s on rails, and I would know as I am a train driver 😆

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you like them :)

[@AlphaSierra101]

Mister Wrench how to they compare the the continentals?

[@MisterWrench]

@@AlphaSierra101 the contis that were OE fitted were ContiSportContact 5P. The GY's are miles ahead, better in every way apart from maybe a bit noisier.

[@spookyreaper1702]

Your car is awd? You’re not going to have grip problems

[@MisterWrench]

@@spookyreaper1702 Having AWD doesnt automatically mean your car will be able to put down 100% traction all the time. If that WAS the case, I could put $20 tyres on my car and it would run exactly the same. I pushed the stock Continentals on the Golf R, and felt they were at their limit fairly easily, whereas the Goodyears have a lot more in them. Same with the stock Dunlops vs Michelins on my previous Subaru WRX

[@philipjamesparsons]

I did buy the F1 SS, on the basis of your previous review; they are superb. On the road they are as stiff as you'd want but good wet and dry. I've also used them on track for 500 miles. In the dry, they are probably about as fast as Nankang NS2R semi slicks. In the wet they are awesome and work even in very cold temperatures. These are ideal tyres for those that want a UHP tyre that works on the road and in all likely conditions on the track. Price was £400 fitted in 235/40/18, cheap I'd say

[@tyrereviews]

Great info, if you get time leave a review on www.tyrereviews.co.uk!

[@Fastell91]

I'm looking for tyre for my daily car fwd 400 bhp but would like to do the odd track day as well reading you're comment has made my decision cheers

[@adyg8221]

Philip what's your thoughts now on the supersport tyres, I'm picking some up tomorrow for the focus rs, cheers

[@derrickarmour]

hows the wear on them?

[@tredfxman]

Ordered them yesterday to mate for my Stage 1 GTI Clubsport! Been super happy with Dunlop Wintersport's as for comfort! As Goodyear owns Dunlop shall be interesting to see if a winter & summertire could be compared comfortwise? 🙂

[@alexgalanopoulos]

8:16 "With the PS4S, braking was so good that the M2 was rear-ended by a lorry. Ahhhhhhh, phew, not today."

[@LawrenceAbramoff]

OMG, I'm buying new tyres tomorrow and I was thinking of these 2. Thanks so much!!!

[@tyrereviews]

Let me know which you go for!

[@LawrenceAbramoff]

@@tyrereviews I'm leaning and will probably go PS4s again, only because it's what's on there now. I have 600Nm At the hubs at 2,300 RPM and I can't tell if it's wet or dry outside. They are such a good tyre and I am hesitant to switch as these are so good!

[@user-rm8fg5qk1h]

Okay, so Michelin to front wheels and Goodyear to rear wheels.

[@tyrereviews]

... now you've said that I'm say I didn't try it!

[@R6VIIshooter]

Don’t BMW advise against mixing tyres? Everyone I know who owns a performance bimmer tells me they munch tyres if you do that

[@konradkuczkowski9408]

I thought same... But what was the size its 19" isn't IT? So maybe because of stiffer tire profile, maybe with 18" Good Year will be good at front ?🤔

[@band1t620]

mind...blown, perfection

[@muumuumu]

@@R6VIIshooter mixing tires is not recommended by any car maker.

[@GusUruguay]

Just impressive the info you give us in the channel. I'm changing tires, watching many of your videos to make the right choice. THANK YOU!

[@tyrereviews]

Glad to help

[@GroovesAndLands]

This channel is amazing. Keep up the excellent work!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you!

[@ziggyfreud5357]

Totally agree. I have tried both on my M3 and have enjoyed both - no losers here :)

[@Saavvvv]

Great video, the one I've wanted to see for a while! Amazing how many people over look the Supersports, I've got them on my car and I think they're amazing.

[@385949862]

The supersports are the predecessors to the ps4s. Having driven both, especially the wet performance of the ps4s is way better. In most other aspects the tires are quite similar while I‘d still give the ps4s the all around edge there as well (which might be due to my comparison being based of new ps4s and well used 3 y/o pss). All in all there is no reason for me to prefer the pss.

[@Saavvvv]

@@385949862 I was talking about the Goodyear eagle F1 supersport. Not the old Michellin supersport.

[@385949862]

@@Saavvvv oops, embarassing😅 Thanks for clearing that up.

[@Saavvvv]

@@385949862 lol no worries

[@saqs]

Been waiting for this one!

[@tyrereviews]

I hope you enjoy!

[@minischrauber2695]

I'm driving an old Mini Cooper S Clubman (R55) and never was really happy with the tires i used. After your first video about the sport tires i changed to Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (the old set was worn out). This is an excellent tire. I'm really happy with it. Thanks for your testing.

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you like them :)

[@5thgearouttahere]

Great to have you back Jon 🏁

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you!

[@rainoor947]

Have a full set of Michelin PS4S on my C63, I believe it’s the only tyre that aspires confidence and the grip you need with all the torque the car has to offer on UK roads and varying weather. Wear has been great too, 5k miles in of pretty hard driving and still looking good on the rears. Decent offers on Kwik Fit usually so not crazy expensive either on 19s

[@PM-oj5si]

I’m with you love the feedback of the Goodyear’s.

[@wtfdididolastnight]

Just what i needed, been 2 weeks of not selling any rubber with the lockdown. The Supersport is something to try for all of the M and AMG drivers! 🙏🏻

[@tyrereviews]

The worst part of lockdown is the lack of driving! (and gym)

[@Rmf8]

I wish they would offer these in a 17inch!!! Great video! 👍

[@tyrereviews]

Me too!

[@rodpaine7552]

Great review and quite similar to our experience with our 2019 Audi RS 3 now running 18x8.5 Neuspeed RSe10 wheels, using the Michelin in 245/40/18 size. The additional tire height helps survive our poor country back road conditions, that killed the stock 235/35/19 Pirelli SUMMER ONLY tires within THREE DAYS! Keep up the great reviews and we certainly appreciate your work!

[@tredfxman]

Haha i say the same! Never Pirelli again! Didnt like any aspect of them compared to my Dunlop Wintersport 5's. Also driving a sandy gravelroad each day here! Yesterday ordered the Goodyear F1's! 👍

[@rodpaine7552]

@@tredfxman Thank you! Now at 36,566 miles of which 26,320 have been fast country back roads, the present Michelin's are about to be replaced with new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, which our European friends have suggested, who are also driving Audi RS 3 on their fast country back roads, with very good performance results.

[@madsdgdhg]

Great video. 👍 Here's the thing... the F1 SuperSport is the only UHP tire available in 18" in europe. And is usually considerably cheaper to buy. So, for me, it was an easy choice,and I'm very happy with them.

[@tyrereviews]

It's lovely they're in 18"

[@JasonLee-hz6sd]

Finally the review I've been waiting for! Both tyres have such good reviews so brilliant to get a direct head to head comparison, looking to fit to my 2014 Audi A4 black edition 255 35 19

[@tyrereviews]

Let me know what you decide :)

[@SushiParty]

My Kia Stinger GT came with the Michelins and after watching your review between the two sets I think the Michelin is more suited to my car. If I had something like a golf R or veloster N, I might be more inclined to go for the goodyears for that teenage angst.

[@AlexandruCandet]

Finally a new video...😁

[@tyrereviews]

Thanks :)

[@Blerk350z]

I have had the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on my 350z for 3 years now. (245/35R19 front and 275/35R19 rear). They have been absolutely awesome. I think either would be a great choice but I’d likely get the Michelins again when they are done.

[@maXXik1337]

I appreciate that you managed to keep video fairly short and still informative. Great job. Also these more deatil head to head battles need to happen way more often, it is by far the most interesting format to look at (i understand it needs a lot of driving and time, but still). Would like to see PS4 vs GY5 vs Premiumcontact 6. Sometimes in future ;)

[@tyrereviews]

If it makes any difference, I have PC6 on my own car

[@caseyworthington7092]

Love your reviews! Brilliant.

[@rsbmeriksson4468]

This chanel should have so much more attention and subs

[@geewilliams2178]

Just what I needed while in lock down. A tyre review fix. I run 4S's on my Mazda 6 sport and they are great. Used to have the old F1's they were nice too

[@morganvon5664]

I recently bought a set of Pilot sport 4s for my 2012 911s. It is a quieter tire than the old super sport. It also feels a bit softer, which kind of shocked me for what is supposed to be an ultra high performance tire. It is a very good tire, but maybe not as sporty as the old one.

[@tyrereviews]

Yep, sounds about right. Better grip and comfort, but slightly less direct

[@joeybbbbbz]

Great video thanks for your review, enjoyed it!

[@charleslackey6275]

Entertaining and good information! Well done!

[@tyrereviews]

Thanks!

[@kotfast]

Would love to see a real life test of the Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5 vs Michelin PS4

[@tyrereviews]

I shall work on it!

[@RobHolroyd]

@@tyrereviews Yes do it! So many car enthusiasts debate on this one.

[@boabm6522]

I ditched my PS4 for F1 Asy5 and IMO (for my car anyway(FWD)) the GY is a far better tyre, steering is much more responsive and sticks to the road like glue in the wet, the PS4's at time felt like driving on ice. Not had much dry road time but I'm sure the will fair just as well as the PS4's.

[@Maxzor11]

I went with the Goodyear's because they where like 300€ cheaper. Really happy with them!

[@tyrereviews]

Great, feel free to leave a review on www.tyrereviews.co.uk sometime :)

[@CartubeCoIl]

As always, great review. Thanks.

[@church493]

Thanks for yet another good review. And yet another that makes me angrier of these "holy trio" tires by each praising review, due none available in 17" in EU. I'd wish to get any of them, but 18" seems only size they start come off, with lesser sizes covered only by more street oriented (PS4/Asymmetric5) or much more track oriented models (Cup2). Nothing for R17 from this "sweet spot" of inbetween, except older models like PSS/AD08R. No clue, how manufacturers guide themselves on choosing sizing lineup, no clue why latest tires of this class in 17 are sold in USDM only.

[@tyrereviews]

I don't disagree :(

[@GamersOfTwoMinds]

Amazing review and brilliant video thank you

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you :)

[@leonnovak3319]

I bought Michelin Pilot Sport 4S last year. I did little over 40.000 KM, super pleased whit performance. Style of driving - lets say enthusiastic, nothing to crazy. Now front tires are worn on the edges (alignment is OK), centre has around 3-4mm of meat, rear are worn in the centre down to 2-3mm because I was driving whit a bit to high tire pressure - on purpose. They have around 10.000 KM of tread left, so I am planing to use all of it and buy new set of Michelin's. They are highly recommend for daily whit a lot of highway use. I drive Mercedes C 200 CDI.

[@Jdogg2568]

Great 👍🏼 review always enjoy your videos good job keep them coming

[@sergioserramusic]

I always love that you test the tyres on my dream car ❤️

[@pastorofmuppets8834]

It is lovely isn't it? I'd still prefer a review done using my car, in case the result is different on different cars.

[@tyrereviews]

It really surprised me how much I loved that car!

[@v35skyline22]

Great Video - Thanks for the comparison.

[@Billy123bobzzz]

Excellent video!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you very much!

[@esametsala3054]

Guru has spoken ☺️ Keep up the good and interesting work!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you :)

[@esametsala3054]

Tyre Reviews Your reviews are best, not only because you can drive but because you really do detailed work. I’ve been driving since I was 1,5 sitting on my fathers lap ☺️ Then 9-19 karting. I have experienced Nürburgring since 1990. So, I call myself enthusiast 😇 and I can see same in you. You don’t know, how much I smiled when you drove GT2 RS with the new GY’s 😁👍👌 So, really, don’t change your style, your doing greate! All the best, stay healthy. p.s. My friend Alec owns a race track called Gotland Ring, in Sweden. If ever need to do business to business track days, contact him.

[@tyrereviews]

@@esametsala3054 Someone has told me about Gotland Ring before, it must have been you or your friend Alec? It's on my list of places to visit :)

[@esametsala3054]

Tyre Reviews Hi 😁 , it hasn’t been me but I’m a friend of his, so You can tell greets from me, Esa Metsälä. His e-mail is simply [e-mail] He would love to tell You his future plans! If You want to experience Gotland Ring via video footage, please look Tim Schrick playing there with Porsche Cayenne Turbo Hybrid 👍 All the best, stay healthy! Kindest regards, Esa

[@tyrereviews]

@@esametsala3054 I'll have a search, thank you. If he ever wants to get in touch find me on insta or email jonathan [at] tyrereviews.co.uk :)

[@mas921]

Really like how you explain the differences between the tires! I think I'll try the good years up next! Been with the pilot's for awhile now so would want to try something new ;)

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you :)

[@gwebby1]

I've had the Michelins on my evo now for about 6 months and by fare the best I've driven. Mite give the Goodyears ago next time and see. When did the Porsche experience in 911 gts drove on Michelin and pirelli on that day and Michelin gave more front feel and better turn in. Great review again keep up the good work thanks

[@Perleques]

Great content. Real world comparative feedback is so hard to get these days! it would be great if you could do the same for pilot sport 4 vs Asymmetric 5 vs continental, as, at least in my country, are more common day to day tyres :)

[@tyrereviews]

I'll work on it :)

[@michelperrotti7824]

Perfect as usual

[@tonycook1858]

Great video, I went with a set of the Goodyear Supersport's in my Megane RS, great tyre

[@tyrereviews]

Great, feel free to leave a review on www.tyrereviews.co.uk sometime :)

[@adyg8221]

Tony what's your thoughts on the supersport tyres, I'm getting some tomorrow, on a focus rs, cheers

[@Lollakuk]

Only thing missing is to toss Continental SportContact 6 in there! Awesome video as always!

[@tyrereviews]

They got a mention :)

[@brianhackettZ06]

I think I need to try the Goodyear F1s next on my C6 Z06 .. I love these reviews !

[@larryhernandez5062]

Always informative . . . Stay Frosty . Thanks

[@rogeliogamboa7644]

once again - awesome video - thnx'

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@_IMNNO]

Went from Bridgestone RunFlats to Michelin PS4S on my R60 Mini 10months ago. Night and day difference, and haven’t looked back.

[@jm9371]

Awesome review. Just put a set of 4S's on my M2... a step up from the stock Conti 3's

[@tyrereviews]

Sweet, chuck a review on the site if you get some time :)

[@b-zero3190]

Many thanks. Based on this video, I decided to switch from michelin to the goodyear on my M2. I am looking forward to the result.

[@tyrereviews]

Ooo let me know how you find the switch!

[@heisenberg5452]

and?

[@kev9386]

I bought my Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersports based on your previous track test review and they are a great tyre. Good feedback, good grip level and value for money. 👍

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you're enjoying them :)

[@kev9386]

@@tyrereviews I'm a tyre engineer for Pirelli Motorsport so it's great to hear both subjective and objective reviews on the road tyres, excellent channel, very informative! 👍

[@billybeartku]

@@kev9386 what do you think of the Eagle F1 SS in the wet vs PS4S? I have owned ps4s before and debating if I should give F1 a try. Where I live rains about 40% of the time in a year. so I do care a lot about how the tyres perform in the wet

[@adyg8221]

Kev what is thought in the supersport tyres now you've had them for a bit, cheers

[@baumy1542]

after watching a few videos here i decided next tire change i was going to get something sporty. Decided on the Michelin PS4, went out and got some liberty 17" rims for my 07 impreza (NA) and got a set of 4. the change in handling is crazy, less body roll, better braking, wet performance is utterly amazing compared to the previous Yokohama's i had. Overall tire life seems to be doing better than the Yokohamas (AE50) with less sidewall wear and with much better dry and wet handling and as a bonus only ended up being only $60 more for 4 PS4's over the AE50's. While the car isn't anything performance oriented the bonus in handling makes it heaps better for windy roads

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you're enjoying them :)

[@miloslogic]

If you take another one of the biggest factors(in my opinion) which is the price, it's a no brainer for me, that the obvious winner here is Goodyear. I mean, of course paying the top-end premium price should get you an additional level of refinement, but that has always been the case for almost everything in the world for any kind of product. I just really am glad that there is an alternative to the real sports tyres such as Michelin, which everyone always considered as the best of the best before.

[@voodoonights1671]

Brilliant detailed info. Just what I need - if I am ever aloud out again! :-)

[@matt-rw6li]

Amazingly detailed review loved the content brother keep it up you have my sub! 👌

[@tyrereviews]

Thanks :)

[@whoisgoogle]

Excellentnreview thank you

[@jamesv5858]

So useful to know this as I’m headed to the Cote d’Azzure in a new car that has these Eagles fitted. I kinda know their wet capabilities now- thanks for sharing this.

[@christopherlewis3615]

Very informative. Thank you!

[@pplaciii]

Day and night the difference between the Pilot Sport 4S and the Eagle F1 SuperSport. The Eagle F1 is much more agile, provide much more grip. Massive understeering with PS4S on my Giulia QF. There are some corners which was scary with the PS4S with the Eagle F1 Supersport I get much more cornering speed and smile! Much closer to the Pirelli PZero Corsa AR. I agree, both of them provide great feedback. I can also compare the PS4S with the Goodyear Eagle F1 Async 5, this tyre is sportier than the PS4S! I wouldn't waste my money again with the PS4S.

[@Gazza-zg2tr]

t have just purchased an Alfa qf and your feedback has now confirmed for me the GY F1 SS is the tyre to buy as the standard pirrelli tyres are crap in the winter.i was thinking also about the GYEAR Aysmetric 5 which would you go for?

[@integritymotorcar2334]

Nice video...thank you. Had a thought for a new video. It would be nice to see a comparison between an OE, and non OE tire of the same make and model. For example, a Porsche 911 driven with Michelin PS4S N1 vs. Michelin PS4S without the 'N' rating. We seem to get customers every so often that ask if there is really a difference. For us, the difference is substantial with respect to how they fit on the rim, the types of numbers they yield on our balancing equipment, what they feel like when driving, and how well we're able to align the car. I'm also curious about your background that led you into tire testing? Keep up the good work and stay healthy. Thanks again.

[@tyrereviews]

I'm HOPEFULLY shooting MPSS * (BMW OE) vs PS4S on an M2 as soon as lockdown is over! There was no direct path for me into tire testing, luckily I'd had support of some great companies years and years ago which was a huge plus

[@MartijnvandeGrift]

Tyre Reviews I’m deciding between those two on my M2. For which should I go?!

[@bbbt8090]

Its like choosing a BMW M3 or Mercedes C63. Its preference, me I'm a loyal Michelin fan because my Dad always ran Michelines only. The Pilot Super Sports were great but man o man the 4s is a beast. Even under hard cornering the feedback it gives you is confidence. When both are at 5-6/32 tread depth the 4s still grips with confidence while the Pilot Super Sports starts slipping slightly.

[@tyrereviews]

I'm not sure I could pick between the M3 and C63 anymore either

[@DontPanicDear]

Nice video. I really enjoy the road reviews 👍🏻 I love the way Goodyear always ‘Invents’ a brand new tyre, that happens to always look like the latest version of Michelin Pilot Sport. SO many generations now 😂 They’ll be good but I just don’t trust Goodyear as a company. PS4S is amazing ALL THE WAY to the wear indicators.

[@pupo747]

I can never activate the subtitles in Spanish. It only offers the option of English. I love your channel.

[@tyrereviews]

I'm sorry, I'll see if I can change a setting. It might just take a while to process?

[@pupo747]

Tyre Reviews thanks

[@omaralmaghrabi]

Liked! As usual great review Jonathan. I can attest to every word said about the PS4S. It's just a great tyre and for those asking about wear, I have put 10000 km on my 600hp Mustang with 6mm of tread left on harsh Australian Bitumen. I was waiting for your review on the Goodyear F1 supersport which seems like an impressive offering. As you pointed in the video: I guess price will be a deciding factor for my next set (Michelins are now offering rebates and cash backs to stay competitive as many good tyre offerings like the Contis are offering a bang for a buck performance).

[@tyrereviews]

Let me know what you end up deciding!

[@omaralmaghrabi]

Tyre Reviews Ended up going with PS4S on the merit (and you will not believe this Jon) the price! The Goodyear given it’s currently being newest bestest are going for a premium of $50 more per tyre whereas the PS4S is going for less cash back included ($100 discount if you buy 4).

[@771bjy]

Thanks the review, really enjoyed it! Decision made pretty easily for me! 4S doesn’t come in 19s, I enjoyed your 4, 4s and cup comparison too. Nice to have someone trying mix quantitative and qualitative tyre testing!! They’ll be some Goodyear SuperSports to replaced the Michelin SuperSports on my M140i 😍😍

[@muumuumu]

what you mean man, you definitely can get 19s ps4s

[@tyrereviews]

Let me know how you get on with them!

[@ArneBergsch]

Hey, did you experience some of that understeer he described? I drive an M2 Comp and I‘m wondering which to get…

[@MartinSTI02]

It´s good to know science, lap times, brake distances etc. but as you said today top tier tyres are so close that making review just about tyre characteristics and behaviour is the best thing you can do. Tyres are so close but every car is different and mostly have different tyre size. So if you are more GT driver in M5 you should probably use different tyre than for your trackday M2 and is good to know which has less noise or more feedback even if difference is small. Thank for great review!

[@tyrereviews]

Perfect points :)

[@bekabeka71]

I see an M2 I click watch

[@LorenzoClara97]

I f*****g love this channel. Every time you upload a video or an article on the website I go crazy because I'm also a tyre fanatic. They are the most important part in the handling of a car Love it By the way I never opted for uhp tires (except I tried some falken fk510 last year) because I run semislick every time except in the winter 😂😂

[@tyrereviews]

Always nice to know it's not just me that's a tyre geek :) Also love the semi slick attitude!

[@echan5471]

Great review thanks! Would love see a review of the Pirelli PZ4, still cannot decide which set of tyre to purchase next. Many Thanks!

[@tyrereviews]

PZ4 seems to be more comfort and less handling

[@mbalunovic]

Huge difference is the size availability where s4s is not available supersport is (18" for example) so it was a no brainer for me for 245/40R18

[@Detail_Den_UK]

My experience of the P4S on my E46 M3 is that they are superb. They’re so good in the dry it’s hard for me to imagine the amount of extra grip I’d get from something like a Cup 2 tyre. Likewise in the wet, to echo what you’re saying, sometimes it still feels like it’s dry. I tip the car into corners at speeds approaching dry weather stuff and still get on the power early. She never breaks traction and just grips and goes. Now I know some of that will be the chassis being remarkably well balanced and a fairly low torque figure so at lower revs it’s harder to overwhelm the tyres anyway. The Goodyear’s sound great, but they don’t sound night and day different enough to make me switch. 👍🏼

[@tyrereviews]

Totally fair evaluation :)

[@kerrwharrie4385]

@@tyrereviews Something you didn't really touch on in the video that I think would sway a lot of buyers in one direction or the other is the price of the tyres. The rears on that M2 would cost about £195 each if you opt for the Goodyears, or £215 if you opt for the Michelins. To replace all 4 wheels you're likely looking at around a saving of £60-80 with the Goodyears depending on where you get them. If you're getting similar performance out of both and a similarly enjoyable experience, I think the price difference will sway a lot of people.

[@LorenzoClara97]

Ever tried the PS4 before the 4s? So much difference? I know that there is a video on this channel with the comparison but I also wanted to hear the opinion from a rwd car owner

[@Detail_Den_UK]

Lorenzo Clara personally I haven’t tried the regular PS4. Having seen a review on this channel about them I wouldn’t use them either. Not because they’re a bad tyre, for your average driver I’m certain they’re very good, however I really like the feel of the 4S. As I mention above they offer so much grip and just give me confidence whenever I’m driving or pushing the car.

[@sarcastixx74]

I switched from PS4 to PS4s on my E46 M3 and can hand on heart declare that they are like chalk and cheese. I found the wear on the PS4s was actually lower than its' previous incarnation and the performance difference was superior in every way. The way I look at it is there is just no comparison, they are both on totally different levels. The illusion of the name (just the additional "S") gives the impression that the 4S is an evolution of the standard 4 but my understanding is the 4S is actually a street oriented version of the Cup Sport 2. With the prices of the PS4s being very good now, I would definitely look at giving them a go if you haven't already.

[@cobaltpica]

The price of PS4S is 30% more expensive in my country compared to F1SS. Your video just make my choice easier!

[@kangerman8]

I have just had these put on my Nissan 370z gt edition yesterday 245 40 19 front 275 35 19 rear and I can only say that the review given saying they seem to make you want to drive more is 100% spot on. I am amazed by these tyres it's almost like you know exactly what's going on all the time,hard to explain but you take of quick from a junction and the rear gived a nice little flick out but was like it was in slow motion and you have time to access exactly what's going on without even having to think. As it was late when the fitter had finished at home I left it till this morning to go test them,I went out at 11am to go get some shopping and I walked through my front door just before 4pm and forgot to even go the shop lol. Obviously this is my own personal opinion on my car and with this being my 187th car I do have a little experience with the feel of different cars, tyres etc. I have to go back to what was said about the tyres make you feel like you want to keep driving and I discovered something today that I had forgotten.! When you have your music on feeling totally relaxed driving hard and you feel like the car is part of you and you have thay tunnel vision waiting for that next piece of road you can smash that red line. Already I know what some may think that I am being a bit dramatic but for those reading who understand a naturally aspirated 370 bhp through rear wheel drive on a nice dry day will get it. I really am genuinely amazed. Oh and by the way I'm 50 this year and today I felt like I did when I got my 1st car mu little xr2 fiesta when I was 18.🤪👍👍👍

[@tyrereviews]

Awesome, glad you like them :D Get a review on www.tyrereviews.com please sometime!

[@stevesloan6775]

Ive put over 3000km of spirited driving on a set of Super-sports and they are holding up well in wear. Where I live has a lot of 35Km corners, so good tires are king.

[@tredfxman]

Just ordered the *Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport's* yesterday for my precious GTI Clubsport (tuned at 370hp bout 500tq at the moment). Did only order 2, so kinda waiting for next summer when having the full 4 to the floor setup! 😄 Bought Dunlop's Wintersport 5 before as winter tires & loved these esp for the comfort. Its interesting because iv read Goodyear owns Dunlop. Makes u wonder if the same composition in rubber is used to create comfort etc..? 👍

[@nickmatthews4939]

After a recent MOT on my Alpina Roadster, I was advised that my tyres could do with replacement (yipee - the Falkens are going) My previous experience with the PS4s was WOW, they just never failed to impress. The inbuilt rim protection was also a real benefit when running 30 ratio tyres. I shall hold off purchasing until this pesky virus allows us out again. I don't want flat spots on my new tyres 🤣 Great review and a 👍🏻s up

[@adriangroves145]

What falken mate and what was up with them, I was goi g to get the fk510 but went with the Goodyear f1 supersports yesterday hopefully the best choice

[@Easy2take]

How about Pirelli P Zero? How much worse are they compared to Michelin PS4S? I'm currently driving P Zero Nero 245/40 R18 but they are not enough...if I slam my brakes hard on a dry road, ABS is poping until I stop, I would like to get tires with more grip.

[@notchipotle]

This is what I was looking for

[@tyrereviews]

I hope you liked it

[@Trendyflute]

Thanks for your review! After being a big Michelin fan since the mid-00s for performance tires, I've lost a lot of enthusiasm with the most recent generation of Pilot Sport, basically because the feel has gotten more comfort-oriented. That direct engagement and impossible-to-overheat feeling from the Pilot Exalto PE2 and Pilot Super Sport now seems to be more readily found in a Continental Extreme Contact Sport or Bridgestone Potenza RE-003. Given the price premium for a Michelin, they will not be my next UHP tire buy.

[@tyrereviews]

Let me know what you try next!

[@Trendyflute]

@@tyrereviews I already run the Conti ECSs on my Miata and they are really great tires!

[@MisterWannabee]

Just put the PS4S's on my '18 Golf R and right away was not happy about the slower steering feel and how the car seemed to move around on the tires more than compared to the stock Conti 5P's. I thought they felt like too much of a luxury tire, and I missed that sporty sharp steering feel. The car at first seemed to feel less planted at higher speeds. Well, after a few hundred miles of re-calibrating my brain and getting used to the slightly slower reaction and softer feel of these tires, I've come to appreciate how great they are for the majority of the driving I do, which includes lots of broken-up New England back roads. They smooth out rough pavement while proving amazing grip at all speeds. Had them in the wet for the first time today where they felt superb. Makes my car feel "more expensive" somehow. Just plan on giving a bit more steering input, initiated a bit sooner. For the real world of fast road driving, they're mighty impressive.

[@tyrereviews]

Great opinion :)

[@darkhorse4148]

I just put some in ps4s’s on my 20 R this week and completely agree. They’re slower on turn in, and seem to make you feel the limits of the stock suspension, but man do they grip, it’s about learning to trust them!

[@davem4959]

Because of you I just bought 4 new Continental UHP Summer Tires because they don’t sell the Goodyear in the USA....

[@tyrereviews]

Let me know how you find them :)

[@arronlowley5659]

ive had both pilot sport 4S on 19" and pilot sport 4 on 18" i feel like the 4S was a lot better than the standard 4, so im glad to be getting the f1 supersport at 18".

[@tyrereviews]

Let me know how you find them!

[@xtcnrice]

Another amazing video, in another amazing M2. Thank you! Would love it if you could do a review of Extreme Performance Summer tires (such as Hankook RS4, Michelin Cup2, Advan AD08R, etc.) in dry and wet as well. Thanks again!

[@tyrereviews]

There's a video on the channel covering this, but I hope to do more this year :)

[@aristotelisvenieratos6109]

Got some Premium Goodyears to our w204 merc on 6*16 wheels and are F A N T A S T I C!!

[@LfKoda]

I use Michelin as I find them to last longer too. 9k miles done wear is minimal :)

[@stewartgrindlay9760]

Jonathan, When you do your new tyre reviews, how many miles do you use to “run in” a new tyre type??? Super content as always!!!

[@tyrereviews]

Hey, it depends. If we're using a new set of tyres for dry handling I'll scrub them in for a lap then go. In the wet we usually do some sort of pre-conditioning, but only a few orbits each way on a dry circle. Same for winter tyres heading up for snow testing, they get broken in somewhere else in the dry.

[@stewartgrindlay9760]

Tyre Reviews thanks for the reply. What future context will you cover this year?

[@tyrereviews]

@@stewartgrindlay9760 Who knows with the current lockdown. There's already a lot of good winter content filmed, and an OE vs aftermarket video. Hopefully I'll be able to travel again soon and get testing again! You can follow the @tyre_reviews instagram for updates of what's to come

[@stewartgrindlay9760]

Tyre Reviews super I will do that. Thanks for the video and stay safe!!!!!

[@juanmarsilvano111]

Please, could you test these tyres on a front-wheel drive hot hatch? How about a Type R or a Cupra R?

[@tyrereviews]

I shall try :)

[@juanmarsilvano111]

Tyre Reviews Thanks

[@PatrickNFD]

Awesome review man! I'm thinking about getting the AD08RS for my E36 as a road going fast road car... any chance of a review on that?! Top work as always.

[@tyrereviews]

It's on the list for the M3, if that ever gets built :)

[@bbbt8090]

Had the AD07s, pilot super sport, 4s and Firestone Indy 500. The Ad07 side wall was e-mazing, seemed like I had put on a set of stiffer springs on my car. Overall the 4s is still the best street tire for the money and wear.

[@drh3b]

While Michelin is by far the most consistently good tire maker, Good Year proves every now and then that they can build a good tire when they try to.

[@DashCamSerbia]

Qusetion: XL (extra load) tyres. Are they better than the non-XL versions? XL means that the side walls are stronger, which means that they are harder so you get better fuel economy and better handeling, and tyres are more durable (hitting the curb, or similar). But they are less confortable. Are there more possitives and negatives to them? I always tend to choose the XL versions.

[@tyrereviews]

Sometimes, yes, but then sometimes the XL and the non-XL are exactly the same!

[@DashCamSerbia]

@@tyrereviews Thanks.

[@michaellourie4252]

Thank you for a prior clarification about a Continental tire. Here is my question. Using 225-40-18, which would be the better tire in the following situation between the pilot sport 4S and the extreme contact sport >>I am a spirited driver!!>>triple digit mph dry conditions high speed cornering...let's say a long downhill right in the outside lane with good but not perfect pavement wanting to push the car as much as possible...which tire will talk to me more so I know where I stand...not wanting to get surprised by the rear end letting loose when I think it is still having traction...will the michelins talk to me with their own language and is that language hard to learn?...will the michelins do a little more speed, but the continentals will talk to me more? How is the grip level beween the two? Which would you prefer to use during dry pavement hard braking? MANY THANKS in advance!!

[@jorgecristovao5642]

Because of the wet driving performance the Goodyear seems to be the best overall tyre. Nice vid!

[@douglasshouganai2516]

May go for the Goodyears for my next set. Darn Seattle rain.

[@tyrereviews]

Not a bad shout!

[@boyteebah3794]

based from personal experience, I am getting good results from my goodyear tire...original tires were conti and wear was pretty fast on those... would like to try michelin but too expensive...

[@hujimwa]

Cars always run Michelin. Running ps4 now since ps2 and for me the wet grips awesome. In the dry great also. Summer tyres you can use all year round in the UK. Bike on a commuter Michelin pilot roads. But a pure dry set up for bike I got Pirelli but there expensive. Even the michelin energy saver +, comlared to continentals i had at the time, better mpg, better grip. Bettee wear. Michelin IMO