Breaking Down PhilosophyTube's Public Statement (Part 2)

[@1986kerrichinchilla]

Ollie hates women, the way he says cis women, hes trying to hide so much venom. The way he talks is so condescending and arrogant.

[@karinaaa7]

"They hate us 'cause they ain't us"

[@Dr3Mc3Ninja]

Oh, but they are incapable of being condescending, because remember, they are now society's biggest victim. They cannot punch down!

[@MetalliCxZero]

I don't know why you think you're in any position to act morally superior to anyone when you hate trans people. Of course your accusation was stupid in the first place, but at least don't make them in a glass house

[@1986kerrichinchilla]

@@MetalliCxZero You sound like a stropping teenager who cant get their way. We are calling out a man who is using dress-up to play the victim and project his hatred of women.

[@MetalliCxZero]

@@1986kerrichinchilla Maybe she genuinely identifies as and wishes to reintegrate into society as a woman, though. What makes you think she hates women?

[@blindace18]

Oh my god, lmao. PT is insufferable. It’s not even the voice for me, it’s the self righteous tone. Barf. @26:45 “so they don’t speak up (poignant pause) to help us...” It’s not feminism’s job to center men. Sorry dude.

[@blindace18]

@32:56 “And start listening (ANOTHER POIGNANT PAUSE) to cosmonauts.” Lmao PT’s facial expressions are just the worst. At least contrapoints makes jokes. This one over here just takes themselves wayyy too seriously.

[@smooth_pursuit]

Bad philosophy delivered with a breathy attempt at sultriness, 1940s movie star style 😆

[@Malorkus]

Does he think that talking like the Queen of England will make us believe he's a dignified woman?

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

I thought it was a Mrs Doubtfire act. 🤣🤣

[@Tina06019]

Don’t be doing Her Majesty (RIP) bad that way!

[@chikari123]

PT sure does love the sound of his own voice lmao

[@gregutz4284]

I do not like the sound of that voice. It sounds fake, or forced.

[@oddbobproductions781]

@@gregutz4284 it sounds more disturbing in most recent vids

[@Andrew4Handel]

Philosophy Tube is condescending, dishonest and egotistical. I think they need to watch some detransitioning videos.

[@eoiny]

I did not expect the Qur’an to have the first recorded instance of gender euphoria

[@GrimMeowning]

No wonder then Iran doing what they doing.

[@LPempty]

It doesn’t. What he said was wrong. Mohammed specifically said that cross dressing is a great sin. There are many authentic hadiths that say this. He was a hypocrite and did many of the things that were considered sinful but not sinful for him. I’m going to guess this is why Iran does this as there are many schools of thought due to the hypocrisy in Islam. The other things is that there is nothing that says that gay men are possibly straight women, as transitioning was not a thing then.

[@epain]

the cross dressing quote is is part of authentic hadiths but it is a bad translation. Instead of "garment", "sheet" or "blanket" is a better word. still creepy nonetheless.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

Sounds like a euphemism for when he's molesting her

[@XKenny77]

​@@epainSo is the idea that he only gets his revelations when he's in her bed? That's pretty fucking horrible. Imagine telling that to a 6 year old.

[@user-nr6po6cy9s]

You know what’s funny is that at this point flat-earthers seem to be defending themselves far more than trans ideologists are. 😂 They have made entire videos of “evidence” that the earth is flat and yet every time I ask a TRA what defines a woman all they do is call me transphobic 🤣

[@GrimMeowning]

If trans are most hit by domestic violence, then why in UK there 0 cases of trans being attacked or murdered in last 2 years, but one women is dying from domestic violence every 3-4 days in UK? In USA similar situation as well. And what about homelessness if majority of trans are middle class or rich like PhTu (who have around 25-30 grands per MONTH, while in UK 25-29 grands per YEAR is average, so PhTu is among very rich people). Police violence have 0 attacks on trans too, even in the USA, while there a lot against women. Like wtf is PhTu even saying? It all just lies. Even if we take Stonewall and other transgender organizations - they all still showing that transgender people are one of the safest demographics everywhere (even in Brazil, where 70% of all murders in the world of transes happening - and if one country have 70% of all - this tells a lot).

[@GrimMeowning]

And issue with toilets and scholarship of PhTu is so weird - it is not white issue, it is actually more of an issue for poor girls and women of color, so him saying that problems of poor and women of color are "white privileged issues" only tells even more how far PhTu is from reality and how far PhTu is from understanding women in general. The more PhTu talks - the more it is clear that PhTu have zero ideas about women or womenhood, yet says...

[@GrimMeowning]

Oh and this "people not accepting our ideas is like people who fought against suffragettes and black people movements". This is just forced teaming, as none of those movements were asking for privileges, none of those movements were demands movements, they just asked to give women and people of color rights that everyone else have, but they don't. While transgender people already have all those rights, they just want more than that, and their ask for "rights" is hurting rights of other marginalized groups - which never was the case with fight for women rights, fight for gay rights and fight for rights of people of color - none of them were taking away rights of other minority, none of them were asking more than just basic rights and equality.

[@GrimMeowning]

The thing about "treating everyone on every occasion equally the same" is very-very patriarchical and misogynistic in nature, we had doing that in many countries for decades, sometimes even centuries, it is just that "needs that are on average same for everyone" are in general ending up on needs where for men it is enough, but not enough for women. Such "same for everyone" makes it unequal to women. Like - put everyone in unisex sports will remove such thing as female athletes completely, things like unisex toilets will remove ability for girls and women to get education and even get some jobs and will endanger women (in UK in unisex toilets sexual attacks are 9 times more often). Very good book on it - "Invisible Women" - really recommending to read it. It shows how "taking average" is very disadvantageous for women and often to other minorities or poor people. Sex-segregated spaces and sports are existing to INCLUDE women in social life and sports, to make it equal for us.

[@GrimMeowning]

@@parttimehallmonitor They are just MRA. All they saying is always like "women are no longer oppressed and in reality they have their own separate spaces, so they are privileged!" and because of this saying that everyone else is just oppressed more. It is such a nonsense.

[@AllPeopleUnite]

Gotta say I'm glad this comment was made. When Abigail was rattling of those "facts" I was like "Where is she getting this information".

[@whosebuilderandmakerisgod]

27:30 I recently saw Jessie Gender review Matt Walsh’s “What is a woman?” documentary. In it, Jessie talked about Tiffany Michelle More, a documented ex-criminal, fetishist, and creep around his child-and also a transwoman🌸 Maybe you’ll remember the GameStop episode with the trans woman yelling “it’s MAAM” That’s Tiffany. Anyway, Jessie said Tiffany was justified in the yelling, swearing, and aggression because everyone else was harassing him by misgendering him. That sounds like what Pt is doing. Manipulating you into thinking that aggressive trans identified males who tell lesbians to suck their … and joke about slaughtering terfs are being falsely called aggressive for “standing up for themselves.”

[@bebhinn]

Jfc... PT was awful before he decided to don a dress and speak with a fake, higher-pitched voice, but now he’s insufferable. Thanks for creating this response video - the original was unwatchable.

[@ojyochan]

PT is so masculine in attitude...

[@ambientjohnny]

Very true. Male aggression constantly shines through in how these people interact with others. Obviously never reflected upon, and bringing it up would be labelled as bigoted no doubt.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

You'll notice his voice cracks from time to time. This is all a show.

[@KaiDecadence]

@@blacktigerpaw1 Yep. Him and Contrapoints. It's because they're trying so hard to "sound female" (lol) that it sounds unnatural and cartoonish. I'm willing to bet when they're not on camera and not out in public, they don't speak in their fake voices.

[@lidahall5928]

@@KaiDecadence Straight back to bass!

[@KaiDecadence]

@@lidahall5928 Yep lol

[@stazoola3616]

I've never, ever, heard a woman say "There's no one on my level", when talking about anything. Only male ego allows a thought like that to be expressed. At least you acknowledged it was arrogant, but really mate? So all the women who've been plugging away at this issue for decades can take a backseat now that you, a man in his twenties, have come along to lay down your almighty faultless imprimatur? I'll be more impressed at your intelligence when you realise how much you still have to learn.

[@donaldhysa4836]

What? Is "There is no one on my level" arrogant or not?

[@seto749]

Shades of *Muriel's Wedding*.

[@Borntoberiled]

I don't understand how a person can think they are a woman, yet lack so much empathy for and understanding of women. Also "As a feminist"? Just NO.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

He's a man, and a narcissist

[@oxid71]

I wish more people knew about you, you are the best at articulationg thoughts on this topic

[@clementineharper7473]

TT Exulansic is really knowledgeable and articulate too

[@cakeface8414]

Dude, I love your reactions!😂 I can feel how much how hate the gross things Abigail is saying. You seem to really empathise with women and how we feel when we hear males like Abigail talking about our issues in a way that centres them. Great video!

[@smooth_pursuit]

I agree, the reactions were very enjoyable 😄 Really appreciate this guy 👏

[@lisasimpson8895]

KC: "patriarchy is not a conspiracy, it's a social phenomenon" - THIS! PT: " blablabla but as a feminist" - this gave me reflux and i almost puked.

[@Nyctophora]

Thank you for this, you've got more patience than me. What a ham actor. Philo thinks Philo is giving the Queen's speech, but in fact Philo is indulging in a patronising harangue as if we were all idiots.

[@Krose333]

Is this person serious? This seems like satire. I find myself waiting for a marching band, or a wagon of barking poodles and clowns to enter the room on the way to an adjacent studio.

[@cakeface8414]

It’s unreal and scary that we have come to a point where stuff like this is met with sympathy and praise. It’s like the world is losing grip on reality.

[@oddbobproductions781]

Philosophytube is a bit… outside human

[@kaizokujimbei143]

"Philosophytube is a bit… outside human." More insanity to justify the initial insanity.

[@oddbobproductions781]

@@kaizokujimbei143 lol I just can’t imagine how someone without gender dysphoria in the first place goes under the knife and masters a feminine voice after one year. He’s clearly acting but the fact that it’s not driving him mad to live full time as the opposite gender is beyond human

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

I wonder how much he gets paid to put on this show. Him, Riley, and Contra and all the other KZbin trans celebs.

[@ambientjohnny]

They are raking it in thanks to Patreon.

[@KaiDecadence]

Well I don't know about Riley (Assuming you mean Riley Dennis?) but Contrapoints before he hid how much he makes on his Patreon which is the primary source of these Trance Identified men, he was making as much as at least $50K dollars and it's probably gone up. He currently has 13,556 patrons and $2, $5, $10, $15, and $20 tiers and as I'm sure you can see, it must add up to a lot. And with PhilosophyTube, he has his earnings hidden but he's currently being supported by 8,001 Patrons so he's probably not hurting for cash either.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

@@KaiDecadence my god! Yeah, they're so oppressed! I imagine the homeless and destitute would love to just make a movie set and rake in the cash.

[@KaiDecadence]

@@ASMRyouVEGANyet Exactly, the lack of self awareness is astounding lol

[@gregutz4284]

Given their Patron numbers, im sure keeping up the grift is financially important to them

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

I just love the way he's got the whole set looking like the end scene in Mrs. Doubtfire and he's even speaking in a soft tone. Such an act! Both of them. 🤣

[@KaiDecadence]

At least Mrs. Doubtfire was entertaining lol.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

@@KaiDecadence haha. Yep. Loved that movie!

[@KaiDecadence]

@@ASMRyouVEGANyet It's a classic haha.

[@ghaida7137]

About Islam and cross-dressing , there is another Hadith (Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) cursed those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners) of women and those women who are in the similitude (assume the manners) of men.) sahih al-Bukhari 5885

[@connie_d]

5:53 - There we go, he doesn't like women. Unsurprising. At least he (kinda) admits it I guess.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Yeah, you can see it in his face and body language.

[@leptoceratops]

Yeah, only wealthy white women care about having privacy, dignity and safety when undressed and alone. All other women see such things as petty and would rather be "nice". It flies in the face of reality: women who support women's spaces being dismantled are incredibly privileged. OF COURSE they are- you would have to be for the erasure of women's bathrooms and other spaces to have no noticeable impact on your life. And isn't PT a "wealthy white woman", according to PT's own idea that gender self ID is reality?

[@XKenny77]

He's such a terrible actor. If you've ever done am dram, you know someone like PT. He's straight, but insists on calling everyone "love" or "ducky" in an affected camp voice, and when he's not talking about himself, he's waxing lyrical about the magic and majesty of THE STAGE! and THE CRAFT! More than anything, I think Abigail wants to be somewhere between John Gielgud and Ian McKellen.

[@smooth_pursuit]

He has the air of giving a presidential address 😆

[@whosebuilderandmakerisgod]

I can’t tell if he’s wearing a wig or if the lighting is giving it a red tint, but I actually think it looks all right on him, better than what’s going on now. I don’t think he can pull off really long hair.

[@constantina6854]

Isn't the listen to cosmonauts bit a reference to prior suicidality, as in, listen to me or I will kill myself, but in an extremely self referential way?

[@stranglewankhitman4936]

Interesting point! Also there isn't a need to set aside the concerns of flat earthers, because we can very easily and quickly debunk their claims with evidence. PhilosophyTube hasn't bothered to debunk any opposition to his view, but instead just says it's like flat earthers. Well, if it is, surely it should be trivial to disprove it?

[@Strange9952]

While you might not be disturbed by this person clearly suffering from autogynephilia, I am lol

[@jovashade]

Don't be disturbed, c'mon get down with the sickness!

[@kaizokujimbei143]

You deserve a million subs.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

I got the notification as if it was already available. Now I have to wait an entire day because it comes out while I'm at work and I won't have my phone. I shake my fist at you, sir!

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

@@parttimehallmonitor aww thank you for the kind words. ❤️ And lucky you for the turkey talk! There used to be turkeys down my street but idk what happened to them.

[@thepuredrop79]

I can just imagine this conversation PT -I’m the cosmonaut to your flat-Earther. KC -so you can offer a theory of understanding gender as an identity which is superior to a biologically-based model? PT -yes, the reason is that science is a Western colonial construct. KC -wow, you can’t even understand your own rhetorical devices.

[@faealike4748]

Borrisina. Lmao, you know people would be cheering for it.

[@STOPjammietime]

Everything would be forgiven and forgotten and blamed on the pain of his identity crisis

[@EllaAndrophobia]

27:08 - Suffregets are TERFS 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ElDrHouse2010]

New King Critical vid heck yeeeeeah!

[@bbbbbbbbbb0]

“Borisina” 😭😭

[@kristinfrostlazerbeams]

Hubris. That may be the word you were thinking of?

[@wonderpope]

PhilosophyTube - the cosmonaut(ress?) without a space program or rocket...who at best a knitted a pink space suit

[@camb-t8p]

This coming out vid reminds me of Trump’s doom and gloom inaugural speech. Except trump didn’t get mad at women’s health care lmaoo

[@dieantler]

Hey KC, ex muslim here, and you are right about that Hadith ea it exist but in mainstream Islam, both sunni and shia rejects the notion of transgenderism and transvestism, it is haraam (forbidden) - the thing about the thing in Iran is that one of the trans identified male supported Khomeini during the Islamist revolution in Iran to topple the Shah Pahlavi regime.. in hoping trans women would get rights.. they did, but with terms and conditions, and the person was beaten to pulp before Kohmeini give them an audience.. lol. Islam by default hates LGBTIQ. If the narrations of hadiths are to be taken as facts, and canon (because compilation of hadiths only occurs 200+ years after his demise), then the hadith you mentioned about him cross dressing contradicts the hadith about male and female cross dressers are condemned by Allah. Also sunni and shia don’t believe in the same hadiths and sunnah, they’re enemies of each other. Think Catholic vs Protestant but worse.

[@HorseyWithNoNamey]

When are we going to have "KC ASMR of Reading Judith Butler and destroying her with fax and logic" section?

[@LPempty]

Just want to point out something about Islam. Cross dressing is actually taboo and Mohammed on many occasions stated that this was a great sin. He however, is a huge hypocrite which is why there are so many different schools of thought. Generally this is looked at as a taboo topic. Men dressing as women is a sin. However, the idea of men being born in the wrong bodies is not. Which is why homosexual men are forced to transition in Iran. It’s a grey area but this has never been discussed in Islam. Tbh if transitioning was actually possible when Islam was developing I would assume that this would not be a taboo. Not to mention many of the hadiths and scholars clearly state that homosexual sex is degrading bc one is being penetrated, implying that they are assuming the degrading position of a woman. Again because of this I would assume the practice of transitioning gay males would not be seen as taboo. However, most Muslims are still against trans people especially if they are homosexual. You see those anomalies in history like in Nazi Germany where transitioning was seen as okay and so was cross dressing if the man doing it was straight. If the man was homosexual then it was not. Again all of this goes down to homophobia and woman hating. When it comes to physiology tube I would assume they’d try to think and reason at least a little, but nope head completely empty just elevator music.

[@r.9602]

i want to clarify some things that are mentioned here, first cross dressing is haram but there is no clear cut rules for what is cross dressing exactly (except the fact that it's haram to wear silk or gold for men) otherwise it depends on the norm in the culture, so arabs 1400 years ago used to wear kohl eyeliner and all had long hair and so that is not considered cross dressing but right now in 2021 if a man wore a dress then it would be considered cross dressing, and that happens a lot in islam where you're generally encouraged to follow your own society's rules, and about homosexuality it's haram because it's against human nature in general and not really about who gets penetrated (that's the reasoning behind it anyway), and i know islam is misogynistic but homosexuality being haram is not it also when talking about islam you really shouldn't mix what some scholars say and believe and what all Muslims agree on (i.e the quran) because if you really want to you can find all sorts of really extreme opinion that don't necessarily reflect what islam is actually about, like for example some scholars say that women should not work or participate in battle even though the prophet Muhammad's wife Khadija had a full on business and women fought beside him in battle. also some argue for transsexualism because it is seen as an illness (gender dysphoria) and therefore should be treated I'm not defending islam and i know for a fact that islam has a lot of issues but it matters to represent these issues truthfully

[@ProvocativeSloth]

What a coincidence that PT chose to omit elected British Parliamentarian and transwoman Nikki Sinclair. Why might that be? Because Sinclair was a member of UKIP elected as an MEP in 2009 and was a referendum campaigner? Hmmm...

[@joshualuke7003]

I'm really thankful for you talking about the difference between same-sex attraction and the effects of gay conversion therapy vs gender dysphoria and treatments for it. So many times now I've seen right wingers/fed up normal people use the TRA movement to drag down gay people as mentally ill/sexually abused/lacking a father figure by conflating them with gender dysphoric people, or on the other side of things use the past history of genuine struggle and discrimination gay people went through as a shield against legitimate concerns towards the TRA movement. Being gay is not a medical condition, it requires no treatment, there are no instances I know of (outside of obviously performative, blatantly still-gay christian sad sacks) of people successfully 'converting' from gay to straight and it does not cause long term dysfunction and internal suffering absent of homophobia and persistent harmful cultural depictions. None of these things are true of gender dysphoria. They are entirely separate issues and, in fact, largely in gross conflict, given that many cases of gender dysphoria seem to stem from a gay child growing up in unaccepting conservative/religious environments that cause them to poorly process their internal shame and develop it into gender dysphoria. I can only hope more gay people start to recognize and speak up on the inherent, increasingly open homophobic (and misogynistic cough PhilosophyTube cough cough Keffals cough) nature of the TRA movement.

[@lillian7194]

I would argue that Exulansic might have a bit more knowledge than you on this subject considering she’s a detransitioner and went to the school Judith Butler taught at.

[@oddbobproductions781]

I know who exulansic is! She was kicked off KZbin tho

[@allmylovers1]

Grandaddy Critical

[@Strange9952]

This subject has really sucked me in. I've always gone by sex, not someone's "preferred sex" or whatever metric these ideologues are subscribing to these days.

[@Anti-PC-OG-Feminist]

28:55 Exactly.

[@rattylol]

Pseudoscience Paah! Give me a break

[@Thatssomebadhatharry1]

KC is the best!!!!

[@xmaseveeve5259]

Can anyone see anything strange?

[@amiiboacid4785]

What are your thoughts on the LGB Alliance being against an anti-conversion therapy bill because they don't want it to make transgender to cis conversion therapy illegal

[@donaldhysa4836]

When you talk about female oppression you imply malicious intent cause opression is not something that happens naturally or accidentally. If patriarchy is just a social phenomena and it has no malicious intent then how can it oppress women are women oppressed accidentally?

[@TM-vq4vv]

I’m an Ex Muslim and you were wrong about islam being tolerating transgenderism, god curse any man or a women who dress as the opposite sex. Two Hadith spoke about it: On the authority of Ibn Abbas, may God be pleased with them, he said: “The Messenger of God cursed the circumcised men, and the concubines among the women.” And in a narration: “The Messenger of God cursed the imitation of men to women, and the likeness of women to men,” narrated by Al-Bukhari. 2/1632- On the authority of Abu Hurairah He said: “The Messenger of God cursed The man wears the clothes of the woman, and the woman wears the clothes of the man.” Narrated by Abu Dawud with a saheeh chain of narrators.

[@remiliascarlet1105]

So Prophet himself was doing stuff against the God's will?

[@ThePhilotherianist]

certain denominations trans gays, hence Islam isn't inherently intolerant of transgenderisim.

[@TM-vq4vv]

@@ThePhilotherianist it’s the Sunni sect & it’s 80% of Muslims around the world

[@TM-vq4vv]

@@remiliascarlet1105 no, I don’t know what Hadith he’s talking about & maybe it was misunderstood I need to read it in Arabic

[@ponny2948]

Not saying you’re necessarily wrong, but Iran is just behind Thailand for being #1 in the world for sex reassignment surgery. Wouldn’t this indicate that Islam, in practice, is at least indifferent to being trans?