*Michi's friend urges her to go to a therapist* Michi :

[@markchristensen23]

I had depression in high school, but didn't know it. I wasn't diagnosed until after high school. So, went to a therapist, and took antidepressants. It helped for a while, but then it didn't. So, they switched me to antianxiety meds, and that was terrible. Then, I couldn't afford it, anymore. I do have a full time job. Working gets me out if my head. Also, watching TV or movies, as well as reading helps. Unfortunately, I'm in a dead-end job. So, right now, I just live with the philosophy that I worry about things I can control, change, or affect. Otherwise, I don't worry about it.

[@houseoftyrell1544]

I was depressed a lot when I was teenager even think of s*icidal during college and I never went to therapist cause I can't afford it, but I can control my mind so it gone by itself completely once the core problem solved or left behind. I still get depressed when I stressed out but always back to normal, just need my own time to cool down in peace, be positive and not overthinking, or distract with other thing like vacation or something. It's all on your mind.

[@Indrakrn]

You should embrace stoicism, it helps me

[@markchristensen23]

@@Indrakrn I'm not a Viking who learned to like dragons. I've liked dragons all along. XD

[@minifeebas8911]

​@@houseoftyrell1544 that is, with all due respect, a dogshit take it might have worked for you, but for most people it very much wont and might even make things worse

[@Indrakrn]

@@minifeebas8911 To be honest, forcing yourself to take therapy when you couldn't afford it just significantly worsen your condition even more when you had to sell things you love

[@yudiva2741]

Michi's friend: you must consult with the therapist Michi: I AM The Therapist

[@kingguy3]

what an oddly specific and random question

[@0senBlade]

Should we worry?....Nah She's good.

[@Blackwing2345635]

absolutely normal question for a single person, who sees relationships of friends, acquittances.

[@NefariousDreary]

Very common the older you get

[@CougheePls]

She yaps about anything. She could talk about her favourite memes for one moment and generational trauma next

[@Silver_Mars]

​@@0senBladenah she'll win

[@RhysHill-ur8lq]

Love is a marathon not a sprint

[@SebDystic]

Hell yeah it’s exhausting listening to family members venting 247! That shits exhausting! At this point I need a therapist for them and me

[@thisisianc]

as much i want to try to go to a therapist. it's cheaper if i go to mcdonalds and buy 10pcs of fried chicken

[@sugarqbs]

therapy is a hard cost to justify, but mental illness exacts its toll no matter how willing you are to pay it

[@tom4ivo]

If you live near a college or university, check if they have a program for training therapists. Such programs need people for students to work with. In my experience, they usually require a payment, but have a sliding scale based on your ability to pay. The students are in their last year, so they have been trained, and they have a supervisor who checks with them on progress and problems. They also haven't been working for years, so your problems are still interesting.

[@SneakySnek_22]

About the question towards the beginning about stay-at-home husbands/wives, I think a lot of work that aren't "jobs" are really undervalued by society. My mom is a stay-at-home mom partly because of her anxiety and she does a lot of work even outside of cooking and cleaning such as logistics for my grandparents with dementia (who can be very difficult) and volunteering social justice work. Idk I just feel like work culture makes it seem like "oh well you're not financially contributing so you're USELESS" but like seeing what she does, she works just as much as anyone with a 9-5, but she just doesn't get paid for it

[@minifeebas8911]

that's not the kind of not-work that michi is talking about here psure

[@tolstiynamek]

The more I hear her talk, the more I like her. Thanks for the clip!

[@tiagotiagot]

08:54 Yeah, no, not exactly 100% generalizable, I've burned out many therapists; shit can really bad for some people :( Kinda paradoxical, I'm the one suffering every day, but the people failing to help me are who end up loosing it... I guess I somehow simultaneously got dealt a really bad hand but also lucked out by developing/being born with a really thick shell.... Though do live in constant fear one day a big enough crack will open and the disease will overpower me...

[@mmyr8ado.360]

There's actually therapy that doesn't need any meds, it's called Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Unfortunate acronym, I know.

[@mrmxypltk]

There are only so many TLA (Three Letter Acronyms or sometimes Three Letter Abbreviations) that even TLA is shared among multiple meanings!

[@ashfl999]

​@@mrmxypltk yeah I too really like The Last Airbender

[@HyattHyatt3179]

That's not entirely true, the may still recommend or want you to take meds while you do that. It may also not work as good as meds (if meds work for you) or even work at all, it's highly individual

[@tiagotiagot]

There's all sorts of therapies, some more legit than others (gotta watch out for scams, religious abuse etc), and it's the effectiveness of each type varies a lot from person to person, from situation to situation etc.

[@sugarqbs]

Michi is either spouting absolute nonsense or the realest shit and I can't help but wonder if the ratio is the same with her Indonesian comments

[@themanfromtheeast2048]

Michi would have died had she remained with her "previous employer".

[@techead23]

I've been my families middle man for most of my life. They always come to me to complain about other people in the family, and tell me to tell the other person something. This especially happened when my parents divorced and I had to deal with them communicating through me

[@oguubear]

I get exhausted talking about my feelings, not that I don’t want to talk about it but I can’t seem to word it correctly to my therapist and I never feel like i can speak out against my feeling. I only ever feel safe is when i write thing down or talk freely on the internet. I think it because I grown a habit of masking things up until now.

[@GruffGuy]

My point is: its totally okay to have a house husband or house wife. it depends on the specific family. However, I really want to see my significant other interested in something and passionate about something. I believe any human being should have some goals in life or just simple hobbies.

[@baka_ja_nai]

Thanks for your clips, I missed that stream

[@mr.shameless1886]

gonna be honest, it took me a good minute to realise that minecraft game was infact Modded. the realisation came as soon as that terminal opened

[@Nerodotnet]

Shes so real for this actually.

[@ultimatemaster2407]

I feel like a decent amount of people would like the capability to maintain a comfortable standard of living in a single income household, but most of us out here are too broke to go at it on our own in the financial aspect let alone supporting a spouse or family too.

[@valeriemcdonald440]

Depends if the relationship was planned that way, or if the stay-at-home person is in a depression. I had heard this story more than once from older people: Man loses job and gets depressed. Woman says don't worry; man has broken ego and lives on the couch for years because he won't take a job that pays less than his old job. Then man gets into gym culture and new physique props up his ego and he gets back to work, and gets a new girlfriend. Man just resents wife for seeing him at his worst, says she was holding him back, and leaves. After draining her bank acount for years. Basically don't stay with a covert narcissist who is always the victim. Unless they get therapy.

[@NefariousDreary]

Facts. My home girl has the same sentiment

[@kupas2]

sadly, some of the effect of sleeping medicine is sedative and destroy mind slowlly. hopefully michi can be free from sleeping medicine one way or another. going to therapist in Indonesia actually make this worse.

[@82gamerprincess31]

“Get a therapist” is a dangerous road of thinking and can get quite abilist. $200 an hour for a session in the US where therapy is often not covered by insurance or therapy is unavailable where you live. There are also situations like mine (i have severe social phobias) where even leaving my house is difficult. Crying out for help to family/friends and being made to feel like a burden got me into very bad places and soured my relationships with most people. I like to equate it to a physical thing since most understand that more. Imagine being bound to a wheel chair and having people be annoyed that you can’t walk because it slows them down… That is how people with mental illness get treated everyday and it’s seen as normal.

[@minifeebas8911]

therapist isnt a magic fix-all in the wheelchair analogy, it's the kinesitherapist who visits once per week/every two weeks or whatever to make sure things dont get even worse (and sometimes it helps getting the movement back)

[@HyattHyatt3179]

and all of that "find a therapist talk" is based on if you can even find a therapist that does the "program" or specialize in the mental problems you have. Or if you can afford or have the time to go to wherever that therapist is if it's in another city

[@fabriane2980]

Pepole will tell what you want , therapies will tell you ned.

[@sorberus3139]

i choose reload save

[@Damini368]

You didn’t save since the start and there’s no autosave. Enjoy a new game!

[@lishuyan]

Kinda relate with "mother's thing" and 'venting' she said. Yeah it's scary things, but also kinda exhausting about the person also kept venting (also blaming since the person keeps blaming the problem they had to other person) rather than solve their problem. Not saying I didn't vent before if get really depressed on something but really hearing same mundane things it's exhausting. Yeah I also have not good mental problem, but better to try to fix it or prevent it. Mental health is real things if people thought they don't exist, like some people closer to me laughed about it if I probably got ADHD or not, and I already asked my friend that studied psychology on uni and also she took the cases really seriously, so she still had valid opinions because she actually 'studies' this and like almost 60% suggest me to get therapy, but really if they don't exist I guess Neuroscience would be some of fantasy things until now.

[@fie97]

Plssomeone make a clip how michi trolling her friends with the house she built for henya and her new trick of her toiler. The cene with Pete ws so funny from his pov

[@bs06c2m]

It sounds fun just eating istead of drinking until you realise its your only coping mechanism and your weight spirals to the point where it affects your health.

[@ILHillbilly67]

Unless you can respect him for what he does it will never work…..

[@shingshongshamalama]

I'd say everyone has a right to exist regardless of whether or not they generate profits.

[@Nicholas-t1i]

yoo im all the negative things she described her imaginary partner as

[@terajimaatsutane]

The one income house question, the first factor is if the sol income is enough for them to live with no issue. Second factor is as said, the one who doesn't work is contributing to the house to make the one who work at peace and can relax when (s)he came back from work. On the therapy part, the one who say "the meds solved my issue" are wrong. They hide/sooth it, medication is just a crutch and therapy is rehabilitation. Medication is only here to help/facilitate the real work and it is short timed (exception for bipolarity and such).

[@exchangeablename]

As someone with a consistent family history of severe depression, I strongly disagree. While different medications might work less or more for different people and (as of now) be imperfect 'crutches', in the end, a lot of the related living struggles of relatives come down to unfortunate brain chemistry. Sometimes, there just is no talking away and trying to unearth/invent underlying traumas to address, or a choice of healthier philosophies/thinking frameworks to improve outlook/mental resilience (even just as 'crutches' instead of 'rehabilitation'), it really can be 'simple' biology affecting life-long personal reality. (Not meant as diss against therapy in general)

[@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas]

@@exchangeablename Therapy can give you tools to help you manage your issues not necessarily resolve them. And due to illness, you might need to get rid of some behaviors and replace them with new ones and therapy helps with that.

[@pokedude104]

Speaking from a male point of view, therapy isn't very helpful in my experience. I don't really get much out of telling people how I feel. If something is wrong, and I can identify that something is wrong I really don't gain anything from telling someone because the thing that is wrong is still wrong after we're done talking. Sure they can give advice but most of it boils down to things I've already heard or already know I need to do. And yes, its expensive as hell... Therapy can't fix your problems, only point you in the direction you need to be headed to fix them. Saying something and actually doing it are two very very different things. All that said, if it works for you and you benefit from it then absolutely take advantage, don't let me stop you.

[@HyattHyatt3179]

I'm not sure if it's a male vs female experience problem, but rather about what your issues are. If you're depressed and it's due to idk being broke, then a therapist may not be able to help you since they can't exactly make you less broke (they usually make you more broke). But if you're having social anxiety they may be able to give you advice and help you approach your fear in a safe way that won't make it worse. Not all therapy is about simply talking about your emotions, but to help you understand and deal with them. Some therapy even uses active substances to treat things like depression and PTSD.

[@tolstiynamek]

Might be that feelings-oriented therapy is not your thing. But some plan-of-action therapy (like exposure therapy, I hear) is more suited to your needs. (Not based on any practical experience of exposure therapy though)