Michigan Zoom Driver Suspended License Story Goes Sideways

[@ericnewton5720]

I’m so shocked, a guy with a nonexistent license had a 9 year old bench warrant for driving with a suspended license.

[@MannyBrum]

Only because the general public refers to driving privileges as a license when obtaining a license is part of your driving privileges.

[@icedcoffee8561]

Makes zero sense They even issued a release for his license that he didn't have

[@desecration171]

@@DarthVader1977 Where did it say he had no insurance?

[@coreyfranco7060]

Zooming while driving isn't good even if you do have a license

[@viking956]

Well as you may already know, a warrant NEVER goes away. It just hangs out in a file somewhere in Warrantland until it is either served or withdrawn (recalled) by the issuing court or magistrate. Not the most efficient system but that's kind of how warrants work.

[@pepethepatriot7524]

He 100% DID ask for all of this 'hoopla" when he lied, like the judge said.

[@j29maniac]

My thought exactly!

[@username7763]

Yup, court of law is a public process. Lying in private is one matter, but lying in court absolutely deserves any and all attention.

[@kurtwetzel154]

He asked for it because he appeared driving. All he had to do was appear not driving or in a car.

[@justadudeffs]

And he further asked for it by going to the media with a bunch of outright lies.

[@spvillano]

@@kurtwetzel154 no, just not in the driver seat. It's not illegal to be a passenger in a motor vehicle if one has a suspended operators license. Otherwise, we'd be banning people from riding on buses, ambulances and hell, even a hearse.

[@jeffmorin1469]

Some additional information for how this happens. In Michigan, if you are caught driving while never having a drivers license, and ticketed or arrested for that offense, that information is transmitted through the courts to the Secretary of State. The State then issue a drivers license number and suspend it, preventing that person from getting a license until advised by the court the matter is resolved. One STILL has to go and pay the fees for reinstatement of driving privileges before a license can be obtained. This is what Judge Simpson was getting at when he spoke about the man first getting a State ID at 19, not a drivers license. He had already been caught driving without a license, and the above described steps were taken. He has known the entire time how to get his license fixed, he does not care. His license was not suspended just due to unpaid child support, he is a scofflaw. He does not care, and he is very adept at fooling the weak minded.

[@Davey-Boyd]

Thanks!

[@robertsmith2956]

That is good news for the rest of the state drivers. Now they don't have to pay for their license since the state issued him without requiring payment. Gotta love that equal treatment under the law.

[@jeffmorin1469]

@@robertsmith2956 No, you are not paying attention. You can't drive because it is suspended. You would get arrested just like he did! He COULDN'T get a license because it was SUSPENDED! He could not go into a Secretary of State office and get a license because it was SUSPENDED. Every time he drove and got caught he got ARRESTED, because it was suspended. It being issued DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN DRIVE, it means you CAN'T because it is SUSPENDED. That is why he kept getting arrested. He didn't want to PAY, which is why it was still SUSPENDED. It will stay suspended until he pays. Suspension means YOU CAN'T HAVE A DRIVERS LICENSE. It doesn't make it FREE, it makes it so you can't get it until you pay.

[@robertsmith2956]

@@jeffmorin1469 I think your missing the point. Doesn't look like he was ever going into the sec state to get a license for them to then suspend. You can't be suspended from the premises if you never go on it.

[@kellyvcraig]

I beat such a case when the state (DOL) could not produce a law allowing it to issue a license and: (1) waive driving tests; (2) waive written tests; (3) waive license fees; (4) waive the photo requirement; and, (5) waive the signature requirement.

[@willl.3353]

A call back an hour later. "Steve, he wants to know if you'll pay the bail too."

[@TheGuruStud]

Yep. Never give these losers a dime.

[@halfabee]

My father never passed a driving test!!! In WW2 he was in Italy with the UK forces. His squad was paired up and each pair were given a truck to learn to drive. After that, the entire group was given Army Driving licenses in Italy during WW2. Army driving licenses are valid for driving civilian vehicles. Many years later in Germany, he was commissioned. He became the Army driving tester. My father was testing Army personnel on passing they obtained a civilian driving license. He considered this stupid as he did not have a civilian driving license. Hence he signed his own pass certificate and it was accepted. That's how my father gained his Civilian Driving license. Having never passed a driving test.

[@Keenath]

While signing his own test is goofy, it's certainly not that unusual for WW2 soldiers to have learned to drive in Europe like that, and to not get a civvie license until many years later. In the 40s, cars weren't as ubiquitous as they are today, so a lot of the teens and twenty-somethings going to war had never driven a car in their lives (especially those from cities, which were more friendly to walking and public transportation back then). There were jokes about how many jeeps got wrecked by soldiers who didn't know what they were doing.

[@Keenath]

(Captain America, as a poor Brooklynite, most likely never drove a vehicle before he got to Europe, and then went into the ice, so it's very likely he never had a license until after he got thawed out and hired by SHIELD...)

[@toriless]

What state is he in? I need to avoid it. I have seen plenty of similar drivers. What is this lever for? Turn signal? What is that? I changed lanes and hit nothing, what is your problem?

[@kellyvcraig]

SNORT. Back in the latter days of Nam, I drove a jeep in the Army. My first drive was to take our captain to where we'd bugged out to. Half way there, it occurred to him to ask if I had a license. I told him I didn't. He asked me to keep that between us. They still let me drive, though I refused to jump through their hoops. Without me driving, they would not have had radios with which to communicate.

[@MrDazzlerdarren]

Now that's the kind of pulling yourself up by the bootstraps we like to see!

[@richvanorden7026]

Being he's never had a DL, shouldn't the crime be "unlicensed driver" rather than a "suspended driver"

[@robthefiveo]

State driving privileges get suspended after a couple of driving without a license convictions

[@2adamast]

Apparently he got his license suspended years ago

[@coreyfranco7060]

​@@2adamastno i guess he never had one

[@jkelley14701]

Yes. It's no wonder that we're all confused. The charge should have been driving without a licence, not with a suspension.

[@Igotitrightagain]

Who was harmed? Who was the victim? NO VICTIM = NO CRIME

[@edunlap6594]

He wore a T-shirt that says 'Trust Me' on the front and crossed fingers on the back TO COURT! 😂🤣

[@rockin86ranger]

I don’t even know if this is a joke or not at this point

[@pkerit308]

he knows he has Black Priviledge

[@North_West1]

True. Front said “Trust me” back had outline of 🤞

[@Alwaysgetalawyer]

This defendant is the definition of a compulsive liar.

[@wyomingguy4743]

You’re being kind.

[@skillethead15]

You can say the same thing about this court system. How the hell do you not have a license at all but you get a bench warrant for a suspended license? This entire story is full of clowns.

[@casucasueq4479]

...and now his church knows. (He complains in an interview about how embarrassing it is at Church now.)

[@Alwaysgetalawyer]

@@skillethead15 His license was not suspended. His driving privileges were suspended. The media chose to believe the defendant's lie about having a license. The court and the SOS did nothing wrong in this case.

[@skillethead15]

@@Alwaysgetalawyer No, you aren’t going to change the story in this comment section. In the video the judge himself specifically says “driving with a license suspended”. Idk where you came up with “driving privileges suspended” but you literally just made that up. That’s not even a thing. This is a clown court in a clown town with a clown judge and a clown defendant. This entire case was a farce and I’m annoyed Steve keeps making videos about it.

[@ramonaweston791]

Thanks Steve for clearing up this situation. This guy with no driver license in the beginning of this mess is a responsible for all of this mess. Apparently their are more men like him out there too.

[@robertsmith2956]

How do you know the cop didn't lie about pulling him over, and THAT is what started the mess.

[@Dougarony]

No bigger criminals than corrupt cops!

[@dakotah4866]

And get people with a license or as the same as responsible as those without a license what's your point.

[@ElectroNeutrino]

This is a perfect example of why "the facts of the matter" are so important. Without knowing all of the relevant facts, it's easy to misjudge the situation.

[@jeromethiel4323]

But, the social media credit people get from jumping to conclusions! Please think of the social justice warriors! They have to have SOMETHING to be outraged about. We can't have anything as crass as actual FACTS getting in the way of that sweet sweet social credit (which is not a thing, but the SJW's sure think it is).

[@radfordra]

Now I retract all sympathy I had for this guy

[@R3_dacted0]

@@DarthVader1977 the same can be said for you: stop believing "criminals" are criminals before they are proven to have committed a crime. Our system is innocent unt proven guilty, not the other way around.

[@jacobray7494]

To be fair to Radford most stories that are false are usually the first story not the second. This story has now had a third retraction which you don't see too often.

[@stevef68]

I never had any sympathy for him to start with.

[@lisagayj]

You want to retract your sympathy. Nothing compares to me emailing the reporter Tuesday night after watching the news where she ran a story indicating he had an appointment with the Secretary of State on Thursday to straighten his license out; in the email attaching the video with Steve’s offer and getting the thank you reply from the reporter who indicated she contacted Steve; then me watching her report on Wednesday night's news with the story falling apart.

[@radfordra]

@@jacobray7494 my first thoughts were “why is he behind on the child support?” There are a myriad of factors that people get hind that aren’t “oh he’s a deadbeat asshole!” Could have had a number of financial hardships Lost your job due to cut backs or shutting down. Your job didn’t offer affordable healthcare and you get sick or injured and get hit with outrageous medical bills. Then you miss work because of the injury or illness. Your landlord raised your rent on you and your job hasn’t or won’t give cost of living increases. Your car breaks down or is in an accident and is unavailable to be used and your boss gets fed up with you being late/missing work and fires you or retaliates by cutting your hours Oh and furthermore suspending someone’s license for nonpayment of child support is rather stupid for a car centric country like the USA We have a society that believes the great lie that you need a car to be free! So we built our infrastructure around car culture. In quite a lot of places there is no form of public transportation, or it’s so laughably bad that it’s not worth having. For example look at the new river transit in WV 8:30am to 8:30pm No weekends and no federal holidays And WV has terrain that described as “fuck you and your entire family!” It’s either minimally flat, moderate hills, steep hills, and fuck off hills. So getting back and forth to work is already difficult enough. Most roads do not have biking infrastructure let alone side walks and the sidewalks that do exist are very poorly maintained. I know a person who drives 80 miles total a day for work because there’s nothing where they live, and the bus doesn’t run up anywhere near where they live so fuck the if they get car trouble. So excuse me for having just a little bit of sympathy for a guy suffering from a frankly ridiculous punishment

[@litning123]

Almost every attorney who’s practiced at least one year has had a client who withheld critical information or straight up lied to the lawyer.

[@TheTimeForChange44]

... and your attorney cannot help you if you aren't honest with him or her! Imagine being broadsided with this, and you still have to (try to) advocate for your client! Plus, given "the hoopla" Judge Simpson wisely researched Mr. Harris' record, which Mr. Harris 'ould've" divulged to his counsel(s) and set the record straight right out of the gate at the next hearing!

[@iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg]

Not almost. We ALL have clients who lie to us.

[@leofredette19]

I saw this yesterday on Law Talk with Mike, WOW that was a surprise!!! and that guy Lied to his Lawyer, she was blindsided.

[@karlrovey]

Even though lies are the glue that hold society together, never lie to your lawyer.

[@KNByam]

He bamboozled 2 lawyers.

[@angelachouinard4581]

@@karlrovey Yeah that has a tendency to come back on you.

[@mrcryptozoic817]

@@KNByam 3 including Steve

[@robertoney5665]

Steve, you have a heart of gold that's priceless!! Making an offer to help the guy out is outstanding.

[@SALESPRODUCTIONS]

I watch the judge daily - and was looking forward to YOUR video. Because I knew it was coming.

[@inplfw]

This guy's viral story has been a rollercoaster.

[@jnachtig2]

It is not. Judge Simpson and the cops were 100% right at all times. He lied to the press and they believed him without any research. The system was right the whole time. The suckers who believed him were the only ones on the “rollarcoaster”

[@specialsause949]

Directed by M. Night Shamalan

[@PixieLove5]

I kept telling myself “watch. Something else is going on here.” Lo and behold lmfaoo

[@solandri69]

If this had been a TV show, people would've turned it off for being too unrealistic.

[@lisah6799]

😂🤣😂🤣 I've been watching it like a series on Netflix. I hope he gets his license back though. I hope Steve stays with until then

[@superturtle61177]

Tomorrow's story, he was driving a stolen car during the Zoom call. Next week's he's not only an illegal alien but an actual alien. The plot twists keep coming.

[@JesusIsTheLordofGlory]

😂

[@classicclassi6146]

Drove UFO on suspended pilot license

[@atomicsnarl]

Lindbergh baby found in trunk!

[@kstricl]

Elon's personal driver.

[@spvillano]

@@atomicsnarl next to Jimmie Hoffa, who remains alive and well. I actually saw many flying saucers over the years. Boy, were we thankful when that incessantly fighting couple moved out.

[@debswatching]

Thanks for clearing this up. This guy up and up lied. And the guy’s lawyer’s reaction when she found out the guy lied was priceless.

[@Dougarony]

Now having proved he is a liar, he can become a crooked cop.

[@gvweeda]

I am truly thankful that you are keeping us updated with this news story. So many twists and turns! As always, your professional take on this is greatly appreciated! Edited to add that Judge Simpson sounds like a very reasonable person, very refreshing!

[@mr2miach]

Steve!!!! You're wearing a Desert Bus for Hope T-shirt!!! I'm one of the craft along submitters that donates a craft each year. Thank you so much for being a part of my favorite charity.

[@buzzlightyear9729]

Ignoring that he didn't have a license or pay child support. He also didn't have a registered car or car insurance. I do and always have. Why the compassion for this criminal when he's stealing from the rest of law abiding, taxpaying citizens, and from his child?

[@systemsbroken]

Yew Beez Raysis Buuzzz ;-)

[@calvinquallss4905]

Stealing? What do you mean

[@skillethead15]

It’s called being poor, not being a criminal. I was in a time in my life where I had an expired registration and a suspended license. It was because I could barely afford a roof over my head while working 2 crappy part time jobs. Do people who are poor and can’t afford all of these regulatory fees not deserve compassion? I think it’s sickening the way you guys in these comments talk about people. Everyone isn’t comfortably middle class with a cushy job. Maybe you should put yourself into someone else’s shoes before casting this kind of judgement.

[@zazuch]

@@skillethead15just because you are poor doesn’t mean people have to pay because you hit them because you couldn’t afford insurance in the case of a at fault accident. If you are unable to maintain what is required to drive then be responsible enough to not drive. The fact I have to pay extra in my insurance because people like you felt you still had the right to drive illegally and as many who do not insured is not ok with me.

[@zazuch]

@@calvinquallss4905often times you have to pay extra for uninsured/under insured protection. So that if someone driving illegally with no insurance hits you then your insurance will cover the cost to fix your car/cover medical bills. Also insurance rates are based on where you live. So if you live in an area with a higher then normal amount of uninsured drivers you also pay more. So they actively cost responsible drivers more by driving illegally.

[@philwaters5654]

No steve. Not the last video on this topic. I need the august update.

[@Orphmorg]

Steve, how many “the last one” you have done regarding a car rental company?

[@johnmartin2095]

Please give your viewers the final outcome of this captivating story when the end is eventually reached.

[@radiantphoenix_5147]

I heard about this and immediately thought to myself "Can't wait to see Steve talk about this!" Haha

[@stevelehto]

I really planned on NOT talking about it anymore. Seriously!

[@LADETROIT]

​@@stevelehto 😂

[@charlesandrews2513]

​@@stevelehto “The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry”. 😂

[@christopherg2347]

​@@stevelehto I wonder how long until Hertz and/or Civil Asset forfeiture are added to the mix.

[@KNByam]

​@stevelehto Like Michael Corleone said, "Everytime I think I'm out, They pull me back in.

[@dougbeckwith768]

I feel your pain Steve. I appreciate the painful effort you are putting forth to complete this lark for your subscribers. I have painfully enjoyed it.

[@andrewkelley9405]

..this is absolutely insane. and also demonstrates the idiocy of social media.

[@KNByam]

Lol we all got caught up. That said, the system still sucks. When they revoke, it goes directly to the secretary of state. When reinstated, it does not, because they charge you a fee.

[@CatFish107]

150 to a cat rescue is better money spent than anything to a dude who's been driving for years with no license.

[@Shilling_Larping_Services_LLC]

this

[@doobielawson702]

Completely agree 👍

[@RustyorBroken]

And lied to everyone. Steve is being more kind about the situation than I would be.

[@captainjimolchs]

He is not charged with driving without a license.

[@Free-Gee]

Applause to all who drive without a license! 👍

[@christopherwilson2785]

This reminds me of my case when I was 15 (I'm 50 now). I snuck out and went joyriding in my mom's car. Got caught of course. They created a DL number on the spot in order to suspend me. Fast forward a few months, i had turned 16...one of the conditions the judge ordered was for me to complete driving school, and acquire a legitimate license within 90 days or so. Wasn't really a punishment, I was thrilled. But really the judge was wise and good hearted. He very much likely saved me a TON of future trouble by doing so. It was definitely a better bookmark in my life, he could have declared me delinquent or whatever.

[@nonprogrediestregredi1711]

Don't sell yourself short; you were a delinquent.

[@OnceShy_TwiceBitten]

@@nonprogrediestregredi1711 Yeah, I never went joy riding.

[@mikepalmer1971]

@@nonprogrediestregredi1711Ya I bet you never did anything wrong. Get real.

[@nonprogrediestregredi1711]

@mikepalmer2219 Of course I did. I was arrested for stealing beer when I was seventeen. I did a ton of illegal stuff. Btw, my comment was sarcasm. I guess you didn't recognize that.

[@captainjimolchs]

@@nonprogrediestregredi1711 He never said otherwise.

[@sgtsawhill1]

No empathy for this guy. He is in his 40s, didn't pay child support and NEVER tried to get a driver's license, and was driving around for nearly 30 years. You reap what you sew....

[@karlinchina]

*sow, like a seed in a field

[@mikeschneider5077]

I have no empathy for anyone who still watches television. You are fish swimming in an ocean of lies. The whole thing is reality-TV theater. Everyone involved, from the judge to the accused, is an actor. How do I know? It's televised. -- All televised trials are psyop theater. Read your mileswmathis updates daily, people.

[@Freebytes]

@@karlinchina You reap what you sow, and you rip what you sew.

[@NewPhone-mi2ks]

Rip me daddy

[@phillipsusi1791]

@@NewPhone-mi2ks Ok, that was.... very special. Special with a capital K.

[@rowynnecrowley1689]

You're a good man, Steve. This is why we need you to be a judge.

[@jocktulloch3499]

His lawyer is completely WRONG! He (the guy without a license) IS responsible for "all this hoopla". He 's the one who keeps driving without a license. He is the one who keeps getting caught driving without a license. Not the cop, Not the DMV. Not the AG' office. Not the judge.

[@SpoonHurler]

He showed up to court in a "Trust Me" T-shirt with fingers crossed on the back... dude wants all the hoopla.

[@Pepesmall]

​@@SpoonHurlerno freaking way hahahaha

[@specialsause949]

I completely agree with you but in fairness to the attorney, her comments were in reference to the media frenzy. Although, I don't know that she was right in that context, either.

[@SpoonHurler]

@@Pepesmall I wish I was making it up. He knew the video from the car went viral and decided THAT was the shirt to wear to stand face to face with the judge. Just a clown.

[@Shilling_Larping_Services_LLC]

@@SpoonHurler ROFL

[@gabidesu]

This is a gift that keeps on giving, thank you for covering this, Steve.

[@jteal6251]

Thank you so much for doing this video, Steve. It's the most important of the three videos. Truth is important. Judge Simpson deserves to have the record clear. Saginaw Friend of the Court did exactly what they should have. Oh, and that warrant they jailed him for? It's from 2015, for driving without a license.

[@MarinosMysteries]

I love this entire story and you telling it. I can't tell you how many times I see stories about things going way off the rails. But then again I was born late to my parents. I would sit in the living room listening to the grandparents on both sides and my parents hold conversations. 6 people all talking to each other and there would be 7 different conversations going on. I would get into so much trouble for laughing at them.

[@dbaldwin2803]

I like to think of myself as a “man of my word” too, but this is next-level. I rarely say this, but your principles are something to strive for

[@brianjohnson4722]

He also has been driving without insurance. Insurance only covers licensed drivers. He doesn't deserve a license now.

[@coreyfranco7060]

Thats not true, the policy will pay the claim then drop you

[@rispatha]

Some policies have a specific addition just for "uninsured drivers".

[@946towguy2]

You don't need a license to have car insurance or registration. You don't even need to be a natural person as a car can be registered and insured to an entity such as an LLC, Corporation or Trust. The insurance and registration are on the vehicle.

[@coreyfranco7060]

​@@946towguy2if someone steals your car your not liable for damages so what your saying is not entirely true

[@galen-eu1vu]

@@coreyfranco7060 Michigan law is special that way. No fault insurance is weird.

[@keithmalmberg8395]

He is a professional lier and a professional victim. As someone who has ended up with spinal surgery due to one of these type of drivers I am pissed he is not staying in jail for a long time. I was sentenced to a lifetime of pain and disability and that criminal got to walk free to do it to a nother victim.

[@Mike__B]

Yup, I don't even believe the bit about he was taking his wife to the doctor for a medical emergency. Show me the receipt with her name being admitted at that exact same date and time of his court hearing. He's lost his privilege for being believed of what he said,hell he could say "I'm a black man" and I'd want to see his Ancestry dna report to prove it.

[@Igotitrightagain]

Yeah, it wouldn’t have happened and you’d be fine if he had a piece of paper in pocket. Lol

[@aaadamt964]

I'm currently recovering from my second spine surgery. Fused from L4-S1. My back problems started in the passenger seat of another guys truck in 1999. It's been a lifetime of pain but I chose to get in the truck with him so my bad I guess. Teenagers gonna teenager. I feel your pain buddy.

[@minealsomine9663]

Yep, judge everyone on the actions of the one....

[@rispatha]

While I sympathize for your injuries that accident could have happened because of anyone with or without a drivers license. It just so happened that it was a driver that had one suspended or not had one at all. I know many people that should not even have a drivers license yet they have one. Hell even back in HS a friend of mine had an accident on his way to take the drivers exam and on top of that he has wrecked every vehicle he has owned since up until his 8th vehicle.

[@Izayuukan]

Wow, what a story, more twists than a season of Lost. Thank you Steve for clearing this up for us.

[@MonkeyPunchZPoker]

Came right to this channel once the story appeared in my news feed, this whole thing is hilarious.

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

A guy I knew got caught stealing cars when he was 15 so he wasn't allowed to get a driver's license for 5 years. He never got a driver's license but drove anyway. He didn't get caught until he was 65 when somebody ran into him. The DA offered to drop the charge if he got a license so he did. Then he got caught for two DUIs within a year.

[@robertsmith2956]

Probably gets drunk because of the whiplash injuries.

[@dmitripogosian5084]

@@robertsmith2956 No, from being happy to have a license

[@elliotkane4443]

American road laws are really strange - Trucks are held very rigidly to axle loading, dimension and a strict 80,000lb limit and it is apparently very hard to get a oversize permit. Whereas you can drive for decades unlicensed and drive vehicles without brakes out of a mechanic's workshop and with the frame totally rusted to the point it might snap going over a pothole. In Australia the police and Highway Patrol have cameras that read license plates as they drive which beep and indicate when a vehicle is unregistered, recorded as stolen and even if the registered owner has a valid license. The police conduct RBTs (random breath testing) quite often, when they do this they check your license, in most states you will lose your license on the spot for 3 months for low range drink driving. We have a demerit system where you get 13 points for 5 years. We have mobile phone cameras which detect if you're looking at the phone and you get 5 points off and a $550 fine. We have speed cameras, red light cameras and trucks have avg speed cameras (between two points in some rural areas). Definitely I'm not a huge fan of all of that, but it does seem like more people obey the road rules than in America and far less people die on the roads

[@dmitripogosian5084]

@@elliotkane4443 For completness, your post needed the last statement - but then, our trucks in Australia are overloaded all the time :)

[@robertsmith2956]

@@dmitripogosian5084 Well I guess you could get lucky and have alec baldwin in the drunk tank with you. He's pretty good at shooting his way out of trouble.

[@geoffstrickler]

The guy sounds like a deadbeat. Unpaid child support, never had a DL, multiple tickets for driving without a license, multiple year old warrant.

[@funkyzero]

yup, also most likely living off of government checks on top of it all. Judge Simpson is one of the more no-nonsense judges you will see. He's compassionate and fair wherever he has the opportunity to do so, but doesn't tolerate stuff like this at all. He most especially takes offense to liars, and this guy is a professional liar.I just wonder how much go-fundme money he raised with this whole thing.

[@Shrike-Valeo]

Sounds like quite a sweeping generalisation that imparts a rather unduly harsh judgment on them. Maybe they struggle with motivational/mental health issues, life can deal some real shite hands etc. A bit of help getting him back on his feet can go a long way, as likely as they are guilty, they could also be a victim. And they're definitely also human.

[@Braiam]

Hold off your horses. Technically multiple, but only 2. Also, the dude seems pretty old, so I guess he's beating the average of tickets per year of driving.

[@qwqwqwqw99]

People are still out here defending this liar. Where do I sign up for permanent benefit of the doubt?

[@maximilian1640]

Welcome to Michigan /s

[@clbcl5]

If he never had a driving license, he never had insurance for his car. Even if his wife was legally licensed, he was not an authorized driver.

[@MarjanKaykavoosi]

Exactly 💯💯💯

[@ashkebora7262]

I mean... He COULD have car insurance, since they don't check squat before taking your money. They'd just refuse to pay out once they heard all the details of any accident.

[@clbcl5]

@@ashkebora7262 Correct, unauthorized driver. no payout.

[@nontypicalwyominite]

@@ashkebora7262 that’s why you have to carry UNINSURED driver insurance. The car is insured but not necessarily the driver of the car.

[@mikeslater6246]

​@@nontypicalwyominitethat actually depends on the state.

[@erickrobertson7089]

Never had a license? Disregard like this for the law will be the end of us all.

[@robertsmith2956]

Maybe he only traveled and never engaged in commerce.

[@toriless]

You mean like forging documents 34 times??

[@robertsmith2956]

@@toriless Well at least you admit Trump is innocent and it was fake evidence.

[@kellyvcraig]

@@robertsmith2956, that clue will be missed by all but a few. Was talking with an attorney about my DL and my reservation of rights regarding it. His response was, "well, you accepted it." My response was, I added the reservation just above my signature, handed the license back to them, then they encased it, signifying they agreed to the terms. He admitted that changed the game. SIDE NOTE: We The People may do ANY act not LAWFULLY proscribed, but public agents may ONLY do those acts LAWFULLY prescribed.

[@kellyvcraig]

@@toriless, are you really that ignorant (if you insist on ignoring facts, when presented, it is worse than mere ignorance). Thirty-four counts in the instant matter does not translate to thirty-four forgeries.

[@justadudeffs]

I hope this guy gets jail time. Whatever is the statutory max. Not because driving without a license is a heinous offense but rather because he clearly thinks he can lie his way out of accepting accountability for his actions. That and because he's been knowingly doing this for 25 years.

[@PCDelorian]

From the English perspective (being much more familiar with English law but I'd imagine most of the principles hold) driving whilst disqualified is a relatively serious traffic offence but not a particularly serious offence in the grand scheme of things, perverting the course of justice (which can include lying to a judge [which he did]) or contempt of court (which can also include lying to a judge) are, however, serious offences and on conviction on indictment punishable by imprisonment for a maximum of life.

[@toriless]

DJT has been doing it for over 50 years and everyone sucks him off.

[@Number6_]

You clearly don't live in Michigan.

[@Number6_]

​@@PCDelorianhaving both an English and Michigan licences. I can tell you it is not that way at all in Michigan. 1st there is no dvla equivalent. Besides he is in Saginaw Michigan. That's a small town it the back woods. The state capital is only 3 miles across. It is known for hunting and fishing.

[@chrisforker7487]

This is the first time I disagree with Steve! The guy is NOT trying to get his life together!

[@Mej_Javiky]

Agreed! The guy lied, lied and lied again, but NOW is telling the truth, yeah right.

[@edg456]

​@@Mej_Javikyoh come on. He wore a t-shirt that said "Trust Me" to his last court appearance. Cut the bum some slack.

[@braddl9442]

Welp the guy lied to the news station he talked too. And then he had a warrant from 9 years ago. The story really just had so many twists.

[@mechengr1731]

Plot twist: this has all been apart of a viral marketing campaign for a M. Night Shyamalan film

[@johnathonpowers4053]

I was so happy when I saw this follow-up video this morning. When I heard the twist yesterday, I was hoping you would.

[@tech34756]

There's so many twists to this, M. Night Shyamalan should be directing the Netflix documentary on it.

[@jasonpopielarczyk7511]

$5 he doesn't have a DL by August. Something tells me this guy thinks he can get away. Again.

[@angelachouinard4581]

His prior history tells me you have a winning bet if someone is dumb enough to take it

[@stevef68]

NOT taking that bet!

[@chrisperrien7055]

I'd take that bet , if you give me 20:1 😎LOL

[@davidbardsley9350]

Oooooh… I’ve been waiting for this! And I appreciate you doing this yet again!

[@jonahansen]

So it turns out, the guy is just a good liar. Was treated very leniently.

[@Dougarony]

Now he can become a corrupt cop!

[@charlenedelamater4797]

I never would believe that there were attorneys that are articulate and honest and empathetic until i started watching as many of yuor videos as i can and i must say ,steve you are a beautiful person and one hell of a human being and i wish i had the opportunity to have known you all these many years you are the definition of a true hero to me.

[@malenurse1999]

That judge in my opinion is being way too easy on this guy. The fact that he is still driving without a license he should be in jail. Due to my medical conditions I have to get medical clearances to drive, if those clearances are not in on time they suspend my license. I cannot submit them till they send them out to be fill out and they only give me 3 months to have them filled out by specialists. So 2-3 weeks to get to me 1-2 months or more to get into the specialist another 1-2 weeks for the forms to be filled out by the doctors and by that time my license has been suspended every singled time. No matter that I have called them that the an appointment has been made. No matter that my doctors have called and sent copies to the DMV my license has been suspended. Until they get the originals by the 12:10 doctors my license is suspended. I did finally find a work around thank gives my a 30 day hardship extension 😊for the paperwork to arrive but that only allows me to drive during my working hours. Luckily the paperwork normally shows up within the first week.

[@duaneb193]

This guy has been the gift that just keeps on giving!!

[@jeff95050]

I bet the liar is still driving when he has no privileged to drive, just as he was when he got the ticket(s) and the suspension and his Zoom hearing. I dgaf about his excuses (or lies) then or now.

[@Dougarony]

Now having proved he is a liar, he can become a cop!

[@about_notism]

Remember back when the press fact checked as part of the editorial process? Let me rephrase that. Remember back when the press had an editorial process? Not only is bad grammar and spelling now a regular thing in the press but now also they don't bother to vet things and such. It is part of the overall process of IQ loss in this country, we are living out Idiocracy and it is happening at an astonishing rate.

[@stevef68]

You mean when reporters actually "reported"? Not relying on social media as a legitimate source?

[@jdmather5755]

I suspect that fact checking by press at any time in history was largely a myth. Today it is just easier to call them out.

[@paulsmith9198]

A lot is getting lost as reporters race to get stories out in the world of 24/7 online media.

[@alhefner]

The phrase "How stupid can you get?" is now seen as a challenge.

[@MrTeff999]

Do you mean Reason Magazine screwed up? What?????

[@jerryh1895]

As the late great Paul Harvey said "and now you know the rest of the story"

[@purpleraventd3]

Great follow up. You mentioned you even sent money to a cat rescue once, you're a great man!!!

[@marilynaicardi1860]

I’m glad you did this video and explained what the heck has been going on with this guy! He sounds like a real work of art! 😅

[@2preach]

dude this is so news worthy never knew there's more you have to do when getting your license back from the courts

[@JmanHarbo]

First you have to get one

[@jeremymcbride]

Note : As of June 6th 2024 Steve says NO MORE VIDEOS ON THIS GUY.... Calling it now : we'll see the update in August!

[@borabora4480]

ditto

[@TheHipisterDeer]

Nah, that would have already been covered in this hearing if he had other warrants on him which the only one he had was for driving without a license in another state.

[@robertsmith2956]

Maybe he can have his computer closing do an entire follow up vid for him, and Lehto closes for it. that way he doesn't.

[@toriless]

Yep, "see you in August" is what I was thinking.

[@ColbyAzimuth]

Spoiler: At the end, it turns out he's been dead the whole time. He just had some unfinished business and after August he'll receive a certified copy of his birth certificate and finally be able to rest. The funeral home will make an exception and allow him to drive his own hearse to the internment plot next to the DMV, and everyone else will live happily ever after. In other news, the Michigan Coroner's Office has announced the resignation of it's director, M. Night Shyamalan, due to health issues.

[@iTazman2]

The defendants slack jawed pose as Judge Simpson pulled his lies apart was hilarious!

[@WeThePeepHole333]

Well if he has never had a license then he has never had a suspended license. PERIOD.... It's that simple ESPecially in, on, & at The Game Of Words That Is Always Played With Law(s)!

[@donbangert]

With so many poor decisions there's no way this will be the last video about this guy.

[@idristaylor5093]

Ben is having his privacy protected by Steve's head.

[@CreativityNull]

Last line of defense is Mic

[@AHersheyHere]

He could've taken his five minutes of limelight, bowed and exit stage left. Instead he came back for an encore. I guess Steve doesn't need to give him the offered 'reinstatement fee' because, he never had a license.

[@debswatching]

Very well said.

[@edg456]

I agree he should have handled his business quietly, but want to point out two things: 1. When he got the suspension, that actually entailed his driving privileges being suspended, not just a physical license. 2. In lieu of his non-existent license, the state issued him one on record and subsequently suspended it. He needed to pay to get his driving privileges reinstated before he could apply for a license (which he has yet failed to do.)

[@robertkreitler6727]

This is the story that just keeps on giving. Awesome that Steve is still willing to put the money out there for him. Thats a real stand up type of guy!

[@Axeldmovies]

Steve YOU never need to apologize for doing an update,even if it might seem like a lot to you. I believe myself and all your Fans went to see the ending of stories. Keep up the GOOD WORK!!!

[@TT-ch2pz]

He should be charged with driving while stupid.

[@narmale]

Best comment ❤😂

[@spvillano]

If we started citing people for driving while stupid, over half of the drivers on the road would get citations.

[@robertsmith2956]

@@spvillano The other half wouldn't know they were cited.

[@Free-Gee]

​@@spvillanoJust cite every ignorant person for having a license as there is no need for one anyway.

[@stevemiller1517]

The roads would be almost empty if driving while stupid existed.

[@tokyosan7906]

A guy who does whatever he wants is doing whatever he wants, no regard to laws, regulations, requirements. Wow this is so shocking.

[@mikepalmer1971]

Kind of like politicians.

[@pkerit308]

@@mikepalmer1971 that is correct. If Hilary and Merrick Garland and all of those Democrats dont have to obey the law, why should we?

[@dansanger5340]

@@pkerit308 The facts don't care about your feelings.

[@mikepalmer1971]

@@pkerit308 no politician obeys the law dude. It does not matter what party. They are all shit.

[@Gisburne2000]

Whether or not his license was suspended, he was driving while making (or answering) a Zoom video call. That alone should have been a reason to disqualify him from driving!

[@captainjimolchs]

That was not the charge.

[@AndrewRoberts11]

@@captainjimolchsNor was driving without Insurance

[@captainjimolchs]

@@AndrewRoberts11 ?? I said nothing about insurance.?? He was not charged with that,

[@AndrewRoberts11]

@@captainjimolchs I'd monitor this channel, as the pair may be back in together, discussing the no licence, use of a mobile device while driving, no insurance, and false statements. Suspect there may be cash and points up for grabs in the next week's episode 🤪

[@dakotah4866]

There was no victim so there was no crime how in the hell would that disqualify him of anything you people don't even know the law. all you know is legal law which only applies the contracts

[@chineseredneck1211]

Your "right" to drive without ever having a license. It means you can't get a license while your "right" is suspended.

[@Federalwaywebbs]

I’ve been waiting all night for this video! I thought you might spend more time on how he knee capped his attorney.

[@maxkendal5152]

The man got arrested and convicted for driving without a license, was later arrested for the same offence, was caught committing the same offence whilst on trial, lied to the court and now is permitted to drive? I need to get very drunk to understand this.

[@nothing4mepls973]

I know why. Can't say though.

[@duradim1]

He's not permitted to drive.

[@Dougarony]

Now he is qualified to become a corrupt cop.

[@rherman9085]

POS should have been charged for lying to the police plus perjury in addition to the other charges. There should be additional punishment for all this commotion he caused. He has no respect for the law. I bet he's driving today & will until he gets his license. This is such BS!

[@MarkLada]

You can lie to the police.. It's not illegal unless you file a false report.. If they ask you a question you are not obligated to answer it truthfully..

[@robertsmith2956]

Did he lie? How is he supposed to know his license is suspended when he never had one. did they mail it to him? If so, did he receive it?

[@denniscrannie1126]

Answer me this: How long does he get to drive on his state issued ID that he keeps renewing? Driving without a license and thereby no valid insurance, he is a menace to civil society.

[@robertsmith2956]

@@denniscrannie1126 So how do you explain he isn't crashing into people, but your licensed drivers are?

[@robertsmith2956]

@@denniscrannie1126 Should be at LEAST as long as they let the illegals drive. At least he isn't driving drunk and crashing.

[@jasonsampson3379]

I want to know if this guy even had insurance? Because generally you need to show you have a license to get insurance.

[@kurtwinter4422]

You can own, register and insure a car without a license. It would be expensive to insure, but not impossible

[@karlrovey]

​@kurtwinter4422 Of course, if you drive without being licensed, insurance won't cover you anyway.

[@coreyfranco7060]

​@@karlroveyyes they will

[@coreyfranco7060]

​@@karlroveythey will pay initial claim then drop you

[@lq7777]

@@karlroveyMy insurance paid an unlicensed/uninsured driver who hit me when I was younger. I was technically at fault (assumed he would make a certain move and he didn’t). So, at least they do pay sometimes.

[@Macdunne]

Thanks for keeping us updated, talk about truth being stranger than fiction.

[@BabbaBabblare]

No need to apologise for making a video about the same subject, especially not when it has an update about developments, i'm sitting here programming and can choose between the radio or listening to people talking, sometimes i listen to you, thanks for making these videos :)

[@drewdogg77]

If this person did not have a valid DL, did he even have liability insurance? 🤔

[@quantumss]

Something cannot be revoked or suspended that never was in the first place. So simple.

[@jeffmiesen]

It’s people like this is why we have to pay extra on car insurance for protection against uninsured drivers.

[@robertsmith2956]

The crime is they force you to pay for insurance. You could just buy another car with the money you waste on that.

[@toriless]

yes

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

@@robertsmith2956 -- But can you pay the medical expenses on some poor hapless victim you hospitalize for several months because you make one error while driving? Farmers can. They know a thing or two because they've seen a thing or two.

[@robertsmith2956]

@@TheRealScooterGuy Why would you hit them when it is your fault? But that is another problem, the courts let them keep their money and screw you a second time.

[@cjd3554]

Thank you for giving an update on this story!

[@lisah6799]

That's a great twist in the story. Im glad you're going to help him.❤❤

[@Rob22511]

If he has never had a license then you can't pay a reinstatement fee.

[@RoseNZieg]

my thoughts exactly...

[@KznnyL]

Actually you can. When his license got suspended for the child support, they suspend you even if you don't have a license, so that if you get one, then it will be suspended from the start for the child support.

[@946towguy2]

The reinstatement fee is to reinstate eligibility to obtain a license.

[@justadudeffs]

They'll create a license number for you and suspend it. This happened to me in AZ when I got a ticket there and didn't get it resolved in time (I lived and was licensed in CA at the time).

[@TainterRacing]

You forget this is the government they charge you for everything no matter what😂

[@jeffreyharvey8111]

He is a pathological lier and caused a lot of trouble. He should be fined heavily and jailed for contempt. Even if he now gets his license he was still driving without one. If someone robs someone with an unregistered gun then later has it registered did the crime not happen?

[@Dougarony]

Qualified to be a corrupt cop now!

[@Dougarony]

Now proving he is a liar, can become a crooked dirty cop

[@HH-ru4bj]

Omg this is more like Shakespearean play. He was driving in a suspended license, it was suspended but an error in the system, and now he never had a license? I'm sure the judge made a couple extra calls just to make sure, because that's not a mistake you're going to make when you have so many enthralled in your cases. I'll admit, I had my own thoughts based on the info available, but it's gotten pretty interesting.

[@vulpo]

Thank you. I needed a good laugh this morning.

[@hustonwitt9425]

Thank you for speaking on this subject. As always your great at it. It really doesn't matter to me , he knew and he got caught. Man up and take care of it.

[@mikek5298]

Tell the lawyer that avoiding “hoopla” is easy; don’t break the law.

[@Igotitrightagain]

Just comply with the law and everything will be okay? lol Study history.

[@robertsmith2956]

He didn't. the government did. How did they know he had no license?

[@franksmith7501]

My very first question...why was his license suspended for not paying child support?!?! So he couldn't drive to work, so he might pay his child support. Fn government

[@phillipsusi1791]

Yes, the stupidity of that was the subject of the last video on this. Now it turns out he didn't even have a license in the first place TO suspend.

[@savageater57]

When I was a patrol officer 40 years ago what heard frequently was " I don't have a driver's license but I have my military I. D. " not even active military. Straight to jail.

[@sus8e462]

Thanks for a detailed follow-up. Now hope all those that ran with the story do so--though unlikely, since many would have to admit they were wrong & rarely does anyone admit that!

[@catnvol]

Never promise not to do another one! You just never know what kinds of twists and turns can come rolling down the pike. This latest twist you covered today is a good example. I doubt anyone would have thought the guy never having a license was even a possibility until suddenly it was a fact.

[@paulsmith9198]

A criminal lied. How shocking.

[@dakotah4866]

How is the criminal where is the crime where is the victim. Any officer claiming to arrest somebody for a victimless crime is committing a felony

[@m.l.a.o.]

Arrested for resisting arrest

[@paulsylvester1394]

Judge Simpson set the record straight yet still did all he could to get the man out of jail and to help him get his license! What is not to like about this judge? Thanks for the update Steve! Your factual reporting is just so refreshing! Thanks for doing this update!

[@jamesdawson5509]

Next week : Zoom call suspended license driver goes Sovereign Citizen

[@robertsmith2956]

Nah, uses Tic Toc, and judge gets suspended for breaking the law for using it.

[@roblapekas1536]

This is why I love your content. Steve keep it up.

[@daveforeman6931]

Thank you for doing this video. Explains everything.

[@kellyvcraig]

I dealt with a case in which the court and DOL made up rules on the fly. The court tried the "driving while suspended" relative to a child support case, but could not produce a license. The only thing it could come up with was, DOL issued a license, and labeled it suspended. FUN ENSUED. First, I applied the State of Washington Public Records Act (chpt. 42.56 RCW) to seek how I could go about getting a license without: (1) paying the fee; (2) without taking the written test; (3) without taking the driving tests; (4) without a photo; and, (5) without my signature. Specifically, I sought the laws and policies (WAC's) DOL was relying on to issue a license without the aforementioned things in place. Of course, the response was, "no such documents exist." SIDE NOTE: We The People may do any act not proscribed, but government may only do acts prescribed. I went to DOL and sought the record DOL was relying on to refuse to issue a license, or even allow the individual to pay the fee and take the tests. The agent kept rambling about a document on the computer. At that time, relative disclosure laws were set out in RCW 42.17.260 and required DOL to have given notice of the document, and to make it available. It would not, but still insisted it could refuse a license. SIDE NOTE: DOL maintained that absurd position for twenty-seven years. Excessive penalties? The involved district court participated in the game of stupid. The Chelan County [Washington] District Court had on record the individual's current address, but issued a warrant for failure to appear, five years down the road. I called the court clerk and the idiot claimed they gave notice in 97, five years earlier, so no longer had to give notice for future hearings. Challenged, she was kind enough to enter this claim on to the court docket, certify it, then send me certified copies. Comically, the fellow was driving his large step van when a bike rider, using the bike lane, ran into his van, as it made a right turn, destroying the bike. Cops showed up and the usual "license, registration . . . ." ensued. The response was, "I don't have those things," then, "Oh, wait, I've got I.D. and registration." He ran back to the van and grabbed the registration, then handed the cop that and his state I.D. Meanwhile, a businessman in a Mercedes came forward and offered to be a witness, informing the cop it was the bike rider's fault. The speechless cop went to his car, came back, then told the bike rider he wasn't going to issue him a ticket for passing on the right, turned, left and the fire trucks and ambulance left with him. Leaving the van driver somewhat as bewildered as the cop seemed to be.