Hunting Beast Stand Review - Not for us BIG guys

[@aaronmelotti8077]

I'm stuck between this stand and the .5. If they made a smaller version similar to the Lone Wolf .5, I would 100% buy it.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

@aaronmelotti8077 what about the .75? I do prefer the .5 that's all I've used this season so far.

[@aaronmelotti8077]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors do you have any issues getting into funky leaning trees with the .5?

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

@aaronmelotti8077 no, i get in all kinds of crazy trees with it.

[@andrewcarr5099]

I couldn't ever spend that kind of money on a hang and hunt stand. For my money nothing beats my little m7 micro lite by millennium. It's awesome I replaced the ratchet strap with a cam buckle strap on the slide in tree bracket for hanging it. I don't think anyone's gonna beat that as far as being super easy to hang the stand. I'm good to go for life when it comes to tree hunting options. My sticks, stand, saddle, platform, ROS, and 16 Cranford Deluxe Screw In Steps, cost around 700 bucks. Paying that kind of money for one stand is absolutely crazy just my opinion

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Im glad they all dont cost that much money. I really need to get a milluium stsnd to try it out!!

[@andrewcarr5099]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors me and you both man that's a ton of dough. And yeah you'll like the M7 definitely replace the ratchet strap though. And the tree bracket puts you a little further away from the tree so you kind of lean back like a recliner on the big comfy mesh seat it's awesome for all day sits. Only thing I wish it had was an adjustable platform I'm hoping they fix that in the near future

[@garrettstraffon608]

Thanks I like Dan to but I’ll be getting custom gear if I’m going to spend that much .

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Not a bad idea!

[@archeryhuntermike6701]

I’m ready to buy my first beast stand setup! But unfortunately when I went online they were all sold out. 😞 hopefully they get more back in stock soon. Not sure how long it takes..

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Im not 100% Sure, any luck now?

[@archeryhuntermike6701]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors nothing yet. They said it would be a few weeks before they have more available. I still check everyday though just incase! Lol

[@ukjw2]

Ever run this stand with lwcg doubles?

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I did not sorry....

[@davidcampbell4649]

Loan wolf custom gear 2.0 700.00 best stand for us guys 275 lb

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

2.0 is a BEAST of a stand I have one. It's crazy how much room it has. I use my .5 the most though...

[@karmas.busdriver]

The big issue for me, You're buying the name for an extra 400 dollars. Seriously, I can buy 3 xop vanish for 40 dollars more than a single Beast stand. I'm a fan of Dan Infalt, but I'm a simple Bow Hunter. Price matters, and the cheap straps is an aggravating addition to a premium priced unit that doesn't stand up to premium scrutiny.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I agree the price of a beast stand is outrageous but it a better product than an XOP Vanish…. IMO…. The newer XOP models seem like a even better value and they appearing to be holding up so far.

[@arthurcarstens]

Wanted to relay a story about a friend of mine from years ago. He worked on radio towers back in the day (30 years ago). We were talking about the height factor and working on the towers. He stated that the towers sway back and forth at the top. I asked him if he feared the swaying while hundreds of feet in the air. His response was that the sway is normal and a good thing. He noted that if the tower didn't sway, being too stiff/brittle, it would snap/collapse. I believe the same principal is with the stand. The platform is made from a single piece of aluminum which is supposed to flex to avoid cracking/snapping the platform. I am 260 lbs with all my gear and also a healthy fear of heights. I look at the flex as something that keeps me safe, rather have the flex than have a failure of the platform. I am still a little fearful of the heights but will keep this stand. Plan on saddle hunting with it this next year. my 2 cents.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Absolutely and I agree, however since Ive tested most of the machine aluminum stands on the market, this one flexes by far the most. Not like its gonna snap, but for larger guys its an strange feeling.

[@tylerspoelma997]

You try any of the XOP stands? XOP vanish evo is a great budget stand for mobile hunters. Can you include links to stuff? That makes you money too doesn’t it?

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I have the XOP evo, need to make a video. Ill try and start linking the products, im terrible at that. It does not make me money. I make money from the views and ad revenue. Thanks

[@tylerspoelma997]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors ahhh gotcha, no worries then. Super easy to find the gear. Was just trying to help.

[@tylerspoelma997]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors you like the Evo? I have the precious model XT. Is the Evo noticeably lighter like they advertise?

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

@@tylerspoelma997 ill be totally honest I havent assembled it yet! Haha, maybe next week ill review it.

[@tylerspoelma997]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors haha I’ll be patient! I’m on baby leave right now with my first so I’ve been watching a ton of videos haha

[@star-b-qpodcast54]

Dan Infalt, with gear, has GOT to be pushing 250#, 275#. No way to justify making a stand that could barely support its designer on a winter hunt with extra weight and bulk, and costs like $200 more than the next guy’s stand that can DEFINITELY hold another 25+ pounds worth of “beast mode”. If you can’t hunt out of a $60 Walmart hang-on or a $200 Novix on the high end, you very likely WON’T see MORE success just because your beast stand is 3# lighter (without straps mind you) and a few inches longer. If you can see past the fact that a BIG GUY makes a stand that’s NOT for BIG GUYS and charges 3x what a traditional high-end treestand with more features charges, then you are as vision-forward as a mole. I hope your $5K worth of treestand gear helps you “beast” a deer real beasty-like. My tree setup cost just under $1000 and I spared no expense on quality.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

The Beast stand is the most expensive stand in its class. Id prefer the .75 stand yrs this stand or the noviox Helo.

[@cw2gsp]

Thank you so much for the first Beast stand unbiased review. Bottom line for me is that there are just better options when considering price. If Dans name wasn’t on that stand it would be out of business by now.

[@minkmink410]

I don’t think so it’s bigger then LWCG and just as light

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Its nice to have options for sure!!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Its nice to have options for sure!!

[@BelowAverageRazzleDazzle]

625 is too expensive... The 1.0 has a higher weight rating and many more features such as tie-downs in the platform, a pack frame feature, a place for a pull-up rope, a place to hang a backpack, a bow holder in the platform, much nicer backpack straps..... and it's a hundred bucks cheaper and a single pound heavier... The value just isn't there... Don't apologize for feeling that way. You provided an honest assessment of a product on the market, and you aren't off base in your critique. Nothing you said was in any way inaccurate, and you demonstrated the basis for your criticism as well. Information and feedback like that is why I come to your channel. I expect the stand's design to change some. The LWCG stands certainly have. When a product hits the market, a good manufacturer will listen to feedback and improve its product. LWCG did. All the issues they had at the onset are gone and they make a quality product at this point. Although they still underrate the weight of their sticks on their site. IDK why they continue to understate the weight by 20% but they do. With that said though, I think the 1.0 is the best overall stand in the world right now. Some would say it's the .5... But LWCG wins regardless. But they've also had 2 years of market testing to refine the design. Hopefully, HB's products evolve the same way. Right now, that stand doesn't live up to its price tag. I hear you on the bow every year point too..... I'm still shooting my 2015 Bear and I can tell you, the deer don't notice the difference. People who buy a new bow every year, hey if it makes you happy. But IMHO, that's a huge waste of money.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Absolutely man! It kills me how they make you think you need a new bow every year! You dont at all!! Its like golf clubs trying to sell you a new driver every year too! I think the beast stand is decent and just needs a few small improvements which will take it to the next level. I think they can do it and I hope they do cause id love to see it!

[@LynnJynh9315]

I love Dan Infalt, but it's just too damn expensive. It needs to be priced closer to Novix, cause frankly they're more well-known. Money better spent on his dvds.

[@Stykbow]

nothing beats lone wolf.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Lone wolf makes a quality item for sure.

[@jgartrell3687]

Good points. I think the “short cables” is actually the top slot being available for trees that lean towards the stand and lower slots being for trees that lean away from the stand. This was just my assumption.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Yeah I thought of this after, which isn't a bad idea actually. Just never heard them speak of it before.

[@Wiscobowhunt]

Your reviews are always honest and straight forward. For you to be comfortable in the .5 and cautious about this stand for a hunting aspect, it doesn’t come close to me. Price doesn’t bother me. Anything well made and mainstream nowadays for hunting comes with a hefty price so I expect it.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thank you, At my weight I was just worried about longevity of it lasting.

[@father_son_galaxy]

Thanks for the thorough honest review. Becoming harder to find these days with the outdoor industry all

[@sarahtownsend394]

Amen! Super honest channel love it

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks man!!

[@rich873]

I made your stand thanks for the welding complement. I agree I would make the whole front half the same web thickness as the back.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Welds were on point! Make it the same thickness and its hard to beat!!

[@SamkoTradBow]

quality honest review! I did a podcast with dan and they are working on a stand that will be a higher weight rating for those that want it. of course it will be heavier. He has that ones coming soon and also a smaller version as well. Side note I LOVE THIS STAND! only 9 actual set ups in it hunting (and about a dozen other practice and video hangs) but I straight up love it.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thats awesome!! Glad to hear they are all ready working on a higher rated stand! Im glad u like man, just doesn't fit me. Thats ok though! Awesome to have so many great options out there!

[@kawi4ev]

going to a larger in size as well? I would love to see a beast stand that is the size of an alpha coming in at around 8.5lb.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

@@kawi4ev thats what I hear!

[@kawi4ev]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors boy, that would be the ticket. I don't feel as secure in the beast stand when I'm 17 plus feet up, the alpha has so much room and would love to see a beast stand that is similar! When did you hear the larger beast will be out?

[@kongvang5044]

Hey guys if anyone that want to sale that stand (beast stand) I don’t have any problem taking it off your hands.

[@1911customz]

How does it compare to the lone wolf custom point 75?

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

They are very similar stands in size. I prefer the .75 because it's more feature rich as well as functioning better in the tree. All my opinion of course.

[@budbrown9504]

I hope they gave you that stand for free for making this video. I would never give 600 for a 60 dollar stand. That’s why hunter got to hunt public ground and not have there on land for buying stuff like that. If people would quit buying that junk you could buy them for 60. Keep up the good work.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Nope I paid for it!

[@chattahoocheeoutdoorsman4865]

Great review! That side by side comparison next to the Helo, along with the price difference, is why I went with Novix.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Yeah its a tuff call man. $625 or carry a little heavier stand. Thanks for watching!

[@chattahoocheeoutdoorsman4865]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors that money saved between the 2 could buy a premium set of sticks to offset the weight and have a great climbing method too.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

@@chattahoocheeoutdoorsman4865 absolutely or gas money to scout or go buy tags in Ohio!! Lol

[@reddawng43x91]

Here’s the problem , the material the seat post is made of determines how hard you can cam the stand! This stand is aluminum square tube post, it flexes when you cam it hard

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Hey sorry I missed this comment!! Most posts are, however this one has extra machined holes in it.

[@timadkins6070]

I'm looking for a new mobile setup. I currently run a summit viper its super comfortable, however its a pain to pack in. what would be your recommendation for a stand that is light enough for a 1 to 2 mile hike in but also comfortable enough for a all day sit.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Novix Helo your cheaper option or a LWCG .5 or 1.0 or if your under 215 lbs a Beast stand

[@timadkins6070]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors no I'm a bigger guy about 250, so the novix and lone wolf custom, you think is good enough for a all day sit, or after about 11 or 12 o'clock your back is killing you from the seat?

[@GarrettOutdoors]

I’m 6’3 260 lbs. I really appreciate the honest review. I’m waiting for the .75 to come out and I’m going to run it with the lone wolf mini sticks. I wear a size 13 boot so the .5 is a little too small. Idk how comfortable I’d be in a tree with that

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

No problem man!

[@GarrettOutdoors]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Thanks! and one question... Being a bigger guy, do you find it more comfortable to run 17" step to step compact sticks? Or the 20"?

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

@@GarrettOutdoors I like either. I used to have beast sticks at 22'step to step and liked them. 17 stack better on .5 20" are good on 1.0

[@InTheWoodsToday]

Do you ever hunt the Rouge River State Game Area? I am still new to hunting (my second archery season) and could use some help in the area I hunt. I find tons of sign and have narrowed down to a specific area where I think a mature buck is traveling but have trouble deciding where and when to set up. Any tips at all id really appreciate!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I do not sorry, are you on Facebook or Instagram? Send me a message. Easier to talk there!

[@Ladaniels83]

Great video man, i for one appreciate the honest comments. Im a bigger dude but pack it around well. I bought the beast sticks and am all in on anything Dan puts out. As of today, I paid the $30 to reserve a stand when they decide to do another run….Im not so sure anymore. The cheap ass backpack straps also rubs me wrong.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

If you font like it it wont be hard to re-sale if needed.

[@Blackpanther_risen]

The purpose of the other cam strap is for more security and to lock the stand in place so it doesn't move like it did in your video. Todd from White Knuckle Productions in KZbin did a great job of how to properly hang a Lonewolf hang on stand. I have LW Assault and was only using one strap in late season archery hunting and the strap actually slipped causing the stand to drop. I think bcz it was so cold and ice formed on the strap thus caused the slippage. Luckily I had my safety harness on and didn't fall to the ground. There's a reason why it came w/ 2 cam straps!!!!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Did the stand fall to the ground????

[@Blackpanther_risen]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors No, when the strap slipped in the cam, the stand fell/leaned forward causing me to fall forward also and off the stand.

[@budbrown9504]

Did you ever hunt out of the beast stand or did you sell it.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Sold it

[@budbrown9504]

I got me a novix helo and love it. Glad I did not spend 625 on a beast stand. Thanks for your info.

[@budbrown9504]

For 625 Dan should pack it in for you and set it up every time.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Id love that lol, love to learn from Dan some!!! HAHAHAHa

[@mikesharp1475]

I have the beast stand and minis sticks. Practice with it all summer in many different trees. Now have hunted out of it twice. I'm 195 lbs and I love it. I have used lw alpha and the xop. Beast stand is the Cadillac. It's length makes it feel huge too. The stand always grabs the tree.Top and bottom for me. Sometimes it will make a pop sound tho. Haven't figured that out yet. This is my experience with the stand. I would absolutely 💯 recommend stand and sticks. But that just my opinion.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks for sharing! Ive heard the same thing from several guys around your weight, definitely seems to fit the lighter guys better! Best of luck this season!!

[@flave932]

625 for one stand that will last. Most bow hunters buy a new bow a year. 700 to 1400 dollars a year just on a bow. Buy once cry once. But you did a great unbiased review.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks Richard!

[@HighHunting38]

I know you reviewed the Beast stand years ago, but have you tried the newer version with different batwing and different angles of the teeth that’s supposedly better?

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

No

[@georgehardin8452]

Stands are getting ridiculous in pricing.got me a latitude method 2 saddle per your video and I frikin love it.best mobile setup ever. Another great video. 👍

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks George! Love my method 2 saddle!!

[@toobizzy2jb737]

Great review, as a fellow 260 pounder I went ahead and ordered the LW assault 2 ready to hunt

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thats a rock solid setup man!! Good luck to you!!!

[@BACKWOODSVET]

Good stuff. I'm looking to get an alpha 2 here soon. You heard anything about them?

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Yeah man bullet proof stand! Love mine, its just super big lol

[@BACKWOODSVET]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors well.... So am I. Haha

[@davidrussell631]

Exact same stand as my Novix Echo. Hard to believe they’re as light as they are with a 30” by 19.5” platform. Great stands.

[@BACKWOODSVET]

@@davidrussell631 I'm gonna look into novix. Thank you

[@davidrussell631]

@@BACKWOODSVET the Novix brand is just a way for Lone Wolf to sale online directly without undercutting their LW dealers. Both the Novix and Lone 32” climbing sticks are exactly the same, as well as the Alpha 2 and Novix Echo, which is a really good stand for shooting behind larger trees. My Assault 2 is a little shorter and more streamlined for hanging in trees with more limbs or toting through thicker areas, and it weighs about a pound less than the Alpha2/Echo. Larger guys with bigger feet will prefer that stand since it’s also longer. They sell feet rests for it but the best thing you can do is replace the seat by cutting down a kneeling pad you can find in Lowe’s or Home Depot lawn care. The Lone Wolf seats are just too firm and a little thin. I doubt many of us carry the sticks like they suggest. Check out Traditional Bowhunting and wilderness podcast for his method of toting sticks on the stand. Thank you for your service!

[@arthurcarstens]

My guess is that the outer edge of the platform is meant for a boot rest, not necessarily for standing on the end of it like a saddle platform. Stay within the cables and you will be fine.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Yes, I agree.

[@tughill4895]

Now that's a fucking review!! Great job!!!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks Tug!

[@hunkersquad]

We love our beast stands!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Awesome! Glad there working out for you.

[@TheJohnbortle]

Another great and honest review man. Me being a member of the big guy hunting club as well, I always appreciate your take on things. Keep it up!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks brother! Always appreciate your feedback 🤙🤙

[@youtubeuserUCVuhjgRB1]

great honest review!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thank you 🤙🤙

[@awesomebillfromdawsonville8715]

It's designed to flex unlike casting that will crack being cut from a solid sheet of aluminum stock. Cost doesn't scare me most bow setups cost 3 times that and if you use Sitka apparel the bibs and coats cost that or more.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Yes, I know but it just flexes to much for my tastes.

[@Pud004]

I agree on the backpack straps. I actually really like the LWCG straps and belt. I have had that set up on a few stands, and I put those on my Beast stand. Very light, cool and comfy!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Yeah thats the best option is just to buy the lone wolf ones.

[@PizzaSteveNY]

I had a beast stand and I honestly was surprised with the amount of flex and I'm only 200 lbs. I had the ambush saddle platform and they said that would flex but nothing compared to the beast stand. I have a 1.0 coming in going to give that a try. The one thing I really don't like about the beast sticks is they just are to close to the tree. Wish the offset was alittle deeper. Also I think they started giving the offset antler bracket with the stand, when I got mine I had the regular antler bracket and the offset one looks a little sturdier but alittle deeper too. Not sure why they started sending them either. Great review man definitely appreciate you talking the time to do these for us.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Yeah it wasnt for me being a heavier guy. Glad my review was helpful!!

[@johnb4897]

Thanks for keepin it real. Would love to see a comparison between the seats. Not in love with my LW and Novix seats

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Oh man, Lol beast stand already gone

[@davidrussell631]

The LW/Novix seats are the largest of these mobile stands, so they’re actually the most comfortable, especially if you find a pad that’s a little softer and thicker.

[@JonnyHs]

Just out of curiosity, how tall are you? I’m 6’4” and I’ve been looking at the Beast stand. Just wondering about how it would feel

[@mitchellbrown695]

I’m 6’4 and it’s a very comfortable size

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

my bad missed this one, im 5' 11"

[@whitewood2000]

I'm 6'5 270lbs athletic build, I was thinking about getting the Beast Stand but maybe I should get the .5? Do you think I would be too big for the .5?

[@jimmywallhanger8402]

Yes. The .5 is very small. Beast stand is amazing. The 1.0 is also good

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

At your size the .5 might be a little small, unless you get the new one with the taller post or wait for the LWCG .75 that is coming out this year.

[@craigholland2274]

I was considering one but didn't know if it was worth the price bump as I have an assault 2. I think I'll stay with my lone wolf.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Did you end up buying one or no?

[@craigholland2274]

I didn't, I might pick up a 1.0 lwcg if I can get a deal on one, but 600 was steep for the weight difference. At least that's my opinion currently.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

@@craigholland2274 I agree, I still think the LWCG stands are superior.

[@mattteeple2605]

Good stuff I just ordered a hawk helium ultra light yesterday good review

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thank man!

[@pamobilebowhunter4655]

They changed the bracket for more clearance from tree to back post. That’s my guess. I bought a antler bracket and put one on my assault 2.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

It would be nice to hear why they changed it.....

[@pamobilebowhunter4655]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors well look when you cam lock it on video and it was like not even a 1/2 inch off the tree

[@PBAdventures146]

Perhaps I missed it in the video and comments as I read quite a bit of them. But the price range as steep as it is, I believe is primarily that it is completely American made. I know from talking to Dan once that he does not like to have stuff made from China. I haven't researched all his stuff to see if that's entirely true though I do believe it to be. But if it's all American made material,. that would go a long way into understanding the cost. That also being said, I have an entire saddle set up for hunting. With the linemans rope, tether, saddle, 2 pouches, 2 ropeman 1s, multiple caribiners, and of course a platform, and absolutely it cost me as much as this stand did for everything to saddle hunt efficiently. Incidentally the weight of all that I just mentioned is equal to Dan's stand. I'm not saying the stand is a perfect 10 as I have not used it myself and from my experience there is no perfect 10. But I do think there are logical explanations specifically when it comes to price points and you are paying some for sure for it being the lightest stand on the market. A very thorough review though and I checked out a couple others as well and within 2 minutes I had the answer on your review that got me investigating in the first place. Thanks for the unbias perspective. Hopefully I get to see how accurate you where with your review based on my own experience soon. lol

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I hope I didnt come off as I dont like the stand because I never intended to come off that way, there are things I liked about it but there were also things I didnt like about it. For me it all just boils down to price vrs features compared to other stands on the market, it just seems like from my experience there are other better and cheaper options out there currently.

[@PBAdventures146]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors nope.. I think you gave your pros and cons quite well.. I was just trying to point out the possible reason for the cost. You have a much broader perspective on hang ons than I do as I've been a saddle hunter. So I would definitely defer to your opinion on that! It was a good review!

[@ruddert1112]

Elephant bro. Not monkey

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Huh? What you saying?

[@jameshall421]

Hard to beat the Helo for 200 bucks. I’m 6’ 250 and it doesn’t budge . I did got to my local hardware store and buy a 10 dollar kneeling pad and cut it to fit the seat. Way better.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

This is true!! Love my HELO!!

[@kentmccormick4230]

$625 does that come with the stix

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

No

[@toufongyang8127]

Lwcg ftw

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Id rank my .5 higher than the best stand for what I look for in a tree stand.

[@frez777]

Love your channel, and this was a great review of the new Beast Stand.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks Dush

[@fishingwithphil2582]

Dude I bought the helo because of your videos! It will be here Friday! Don’t lose too much weight I am 260 also 😂 love the channel!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Lol, this made me laugh!! 🤣🤣 Im down a few pounds running these swamps this season lol

[@RedBeardedPredators]

Great review, helpful, thoughtful, honestly I haven’t had my hands on the stand, but after watching and looking at the stand. I had similar concerns.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Yeah man, lots of room for improvement though!!

[@ToddTheGunGuy]

You still crazy bro. My big butt is sitting in a ladder😭🤙 Looks like a decent stand but like be how you break it down and give honest review

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks Todd!!

[@malcolmmchose9680]

There's always gonna be people that don't always like what you say. SFW I think you're review is spot on. They can't keep em in stock because EVERYONE wants that BIG PRICE TAG in everyone's mind when they're passing by people in the woods.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I think if I was a 200lb guy it might be a very different review!

[@joshh5853]

Been looking forward to this review, thanks for the honesty! I have been strongly leaning toward upgrading to a beast stand next season (couldn’t catch it in stock this year) I may go back and take a good look at a lwcg 1.0. Keep up the good work!

[@leekovarikkovarik6385]

The beast stand is really nice. The fit and finish is 10/10 but the use of it for me is a 8/10. I ended up with my helo… I recommend that. It’s 10-10 use and 9-10 for finish

[@MexicanMovie]

I love Dan, but I stood on that stand at DeerFest and it isn't for me.... and just 3 weeks ago i was installing my Beast stick minis going up a tree, which are stealth stripped by the way, and my rubber boot scuffed the top step of the stick and made a ringing noise and alerted a bedded public land doe to my presence. That is the 2nd time it has happened, but only cost me a deer this one time as far as i know. It came out 1 hour early and stood for about a minute scanning, circled behind me and then out in the field kept staring towards my tree trying to figure out what it was. It just couldn't let go of that ringing sound. 10 minutes later another doe showed up and they left together.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Interesting, ive never had that sound before on mine

[@craigholland2274]

Nice unbiased review.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

🤙🤙

[@glennl9630]

Tough pill to swallow ?? A decent bow set up is 1 g same with a crossbow etc you get what you pay for!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

True, you sure do!

[@MrWhiltetail]

EXELLENT detailed review. I agree with you except for the cable length. That could be for trees that are leaning forward a little. Very good observation about the large hole in the platform too. I wear a size 9 shoe so that could definitely be an issue.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thats a good point and does solve that issue, ive had that happen before. Yes, that hole is too big...

[@jimmywallhanger8402]

It is NOT an issue, trust me. I have size 10 boots and have zero concerns of teh space causing me ot trip

[@bradmanreuter7613]

Lots of pandering out there by content creators these days. Appreciate the honesty! Keep up the good work man!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks man, I love Dan and his Channel. I am a major hunting beast fan, I watch every fricken video and comment on every video. This was a hard video for me to make but I gotta keep it real.

[@dhjr43]

I don't like the big holes on the end either so I'm gonna wait to see if they change the design. I don't mind paying for the quality just not a fan of the design yet. We'll see what is next

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Hopefully they improve on the design!. I think they could really make a cooler stand if they wanted too.

[@shaneshonda]

Aluminum isn't supposed to flex that much.that looks more like the flexibility of steel.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

They say the flex is fine, it just flexed too much for me!!

[@100american5]

So Dan made a lone wolf copy.... innovative

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

It definitely has some cool features but I think there are some better options for cheaper right now.

[@n.s.8803]

I'm around 190-195 and love this stand...but I could see 70lbs might make a big difference.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Absolutely, I hope my video conveyed that. Honestly this video was hard for me to make since I look up to Dan a lot.

[@stacywoodman2074]

From what I read, stand makers like Lone Wolf, LWCG, and The Beast rate their stands about half of what they can actually hold just to be safe and the stands don’t fail based on someone’s weight. I’m pretty sure I actually read this on Tethrd’s website or in an email or something. I think The Beast stand is absolutely the best made one by far. The new LWCG is looking great too but I haven’t tried them yet.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

yes, typically they are rated as x2 for TMA standards. It just flexed a little to much for me. Sometimes it would also make strange noises on the post.

[@InTheWoodsToday]

My next piece of hunting gear is going to be a new stand... I using one my dad gave me that is super heavy (at least 15 pounds) and about 15 to 20 years old.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

What did u end up with?

[@raymonddancer9181]

Another awesome review.! I being at the 190lb club this stand is Bomb. I used my Beast Stand the other day for the first time had no issues cam locking it into the medium sized oak I was in.! Completely solid very impressive. I could see where definitely a bigger fella could get sketchy...! It's very expensive and I'm thankful for our stimulus check..lol Once in a lifetime purchase for me.! One question why the stealth strips on the cables?? I like the idea with stealth stripping the seat.! Thanks again for your review.!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Hey man, Im glad its working out for you! It definitely seems like the guys around 200lbs love it. Sometimes the cables can squeak on rubber boots. So stealth strips fix that. Uncle Lou sells cable strips on www.stealthoutdoors.com/

[@raymonddancer9181]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Awesome thanks man.! Good luck out there.!🦌👊

[@Mr.J345]

Looks like a sick stand a lot of flex though. I love the honest reviews 👍

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Yes its a good stand just to much flex for my weight!

[@littlewoody5539]

I’m still using my darton bow from 1999 lol

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I did that for a long time and after I missed like 3 pope and Youngs I went and bought a Mathews bow and my kills consistently improved after that. Just the speed increase alone was worth it!

[@chasehaynie879]

I think the cable length is fine, giving you that top slot to adjust allows you more versatility in tree selection. Personally even doing the math i can't justify the cost especially being in the same wt range as you ha

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Its super expensive stand. Too much in my opinion

[@jgartrell3687]

My initial reaction to the price was a resounding F-That but when I sat down and did the math. I was previously buying presets at $100-150 a pop and they were steel and on public which means they rust and get stolen. These premium stands are more expensive but I believe in the long run I’ll come out ahead even if I only use it 6-8 years. I don’t think we should pretend you can’t kill a deer without it but It’s also silly to bash guys that do find the price justifiable. I do believe a nice set of straps with a waist belt should be included at that price point.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I totally agree, for $625 its kinda a shame that there not including a nicer seat or decent back pack straps. I think your better off buying a 1.0 or .5 because they are cheaper and provide the nice straps.

[@dank5580]

I think Dan honestly tried to test this stand out as best as possible and not just throw it out on the market to make a buck. However it's hard to beat the knowledge and information gained from the sample size lone wolf has. Having lab testing and a few people in running it for a season isn't comparable to having a diverse group of people running a system for years. I honestly would be shocked if his 1st stand was perfect. That's why I ended getting a custom gear .5. Tho it's not necessarily perfect I have always felt safe in the stand and the way to locks to the tree deft is pretty well figured out at this point. These items are expensive and with out seeing them in person it's helpful to have these kinds of reviews. I have tried to do the same showing some of the pros and cons of my .5 stand. I also like your point about the stand price can only go up if they are going to improve it. Interested to see what happends with the next model stand if it comes out.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Dank, thanks for the thoughtful response, I agree too. I think he developed the stand to fit it his niche and to fit him personally and I think its a good first model, it just needs to be tweaked in my opinion. Im also not saying I know everything or that my opinion even matters but thats what I do on this channel is share my opinion. At the end of the day hes going up against LWCG who has decades of tree stand designing experience. I too have the .5 stand and for me and how I hunt its damn hard to beat. I cant hang it silently and most importantly it hardly flexes at all and locks to the tree with a minimal toe hook. The beast stand might be more comfortable to sit in but for me a stander ill just stick with my .5 this season. Good luck in your hunting this year!

[@dank5580]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Yup I agree with everything you said. But my question for you is being a bigger guy how is your butt feel on that .5 seat! I'm 511 180 and I had to make an extra seat cushion to support me but even still it's just to small. I know people tried to buy the 1.0 stand seat from lone wolf to put on it but they said they couldn't do it because of liability issues, maybe so people dont use as saddle platforms I'm guessing? I don't mind the small platform but damn that seat is just to damn small!

[@jimstone1404]

Thanks for the honest review! Its a good looking stand but for that price, I’ll have to pass. I hunt swamps and have never had trouble carrying my XOP and 4 sticks 1.5+ miles in when needed. I can see where smaller hunters might though??? Keep up the good work!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks Jim! Guys have been carrying original Lone wolfs for years. I think lighter stands do make you more efficient but it can be done! Thanks for watching!

[@jalton9416]

I like my LWCG .5

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I love mine man, its the lightest and easiest to hang. Doesn't flex that much either! Already got 4 sits in it this year!

[@jalton9416]

This past summer, I filed all the sharp 90 degree edges on the .5. Finished it smooth with 200 grit sand paper. Sprayed it with camo spray paint. It looks even better and no risk of damaging a strap.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

@@jalton9416 thats solid man, still bull u have to do all that but it sounds like there fixing the issue soon

[@LongtineBowhunting]

"Tiny little Asian Feet" lol - Good Review, Bud.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks LOL

[@AERIALASSAULT1]

I think the "it will pass 300#" argument is bull. You see when you stood on the front the flex in the middle of the platform....even behind the cables. Wow. But at 190 it works great for me. Tree bracket sucks tho

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

It definitely needs to be improved a little in my opinion.

[@alexadams9437]

Foam is expensive. Especially for guys low on the foam totem poll..

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

yeah?

[@melvinsacromentoe]

Great review best one I’ve seen on the hunting beast stand and unbiased. Looks like a nice stand but man the price is insane. I really don’t think we are far off maybe 5-10 years from seeing a 1000 stand. I don’t think it’s worth it just to save 2 pounds or whatever it is. But I can see people buying this for sure, there are people who spend 3000 dollars on Sitka

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thank you Melvin! I agree, these prices are insane. Some guys like it and thats great! I just dont think at my weight its the best option for me.

[@jimmywallhanger8402]

cost me $1000 CAD to get to mt door

[@melvinsacromentoe]

@@beez7753 well that didn’t take long! Past 3 yrs stuff has gone insane with prices! Don’t understand how people can afford anything

[@mikerosamond4091]

Man I'm I glad you did this review. I always wait for your reviews and you almost waited to long on this one. I'm going to have to pass, I had the same problem with the lwcg on the flex. I had a list of other problems with the lwcg and will not own another one. So far all of the high end stands have been a disappointment. I've modified a m7 and I guess I'll stick with it. Thanks again for the review.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks man! Maybe one day something will fit all your criteria!!

[@matthewgill9820]

I really like my beast stand, but I’m only 150#. Figuring out the best way to cam was the only real issue I had. I honestly think it bites the tree better using Jason’s step down method than anything else. Super light, easy to hang, and plenty of platform room. And the seat is actually pretty comfortable. I agree it sucks that a $625 stand doesn’t come with better back pack straps

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Maybe its me being 260? Maybe the top bracket bites to hard....

[@paulcrave3112]

I have the same issue with the weight rating. I’m too heavy. I k ow when they were rating it they went back and forth between 275 and 300. Mario wanted to accept the 300 rating and Dan way to be conservative and went 275.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Im not sure, my guess is it didnt pass TMA STANDARDS at 300lbs so they had to lower it.

[@effmarco3425]

Lol asian feet. Good review. Tha ks for your honesty. I really enjoy your channel and I hope to see more from you this fall

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

LOL HAHAHA.

[@davidrussell631]

My LW Alpha 2/Novix Echo is a full 30” long, and both it and my Assault 2 are both wider than the Beast stand at 19.5”. Another thing about my stands is that they both have a spot for my compound, so no bow holder required with no holes to step in lol. In my opinion, with both the LWCG and Beast stands you’re not necessarily getting better stands. They’re just lighter, smaller, trendy stands that cost more than any stand I’d want to leave in the woods overnight. Soldiers and backpack campers carry all kinds of weight for hours at a time. Why can’t grown men bow hunters tote a 20 lb rig of stand and sticks? I realize guys are carrying camera gear and everything but the kitchen sink in their pack, but I just don’t see how a 11 lb stand is a deal breaker. As I’ve said before, all this proves it’s hard to improve on the Assault 2. Reminds me of how Summit has found it hard to improve on their climbers for years now.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

David, I totally agree man!! Plus the marketing done by these companies is like everything else, makes you want the latest and greatest everything!! Dan Infalt killed a lot of public land bucks from that original LONE WOLF ASSAULT 2!!

[@ericwolbert3256]

180 pounds no issues what so ever! I have about every other stand to Lonewolf custom gear both alpha and assault and by far this one is a sturdiest in the tree bites the tree like no other

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Interesting, I found this to be the exact opposite. 🤷

[@malcolmmchose9680]

I actually enjoy watching this man's reviews. I'm gonna agree 100 with the price. I'm a huge D Infalt supporter and from what I've watched over the year's Dan has come off as a hard working man. He doesn't seem like a top shelf reaching must have the best of the best champagne wallet LOOK AT ME kind of guy. So it kinda baffled me when I seen the price of his stand. I was thinking when I heard a few year's back. That this stand was in the testing phase. That this stand was gonna be that HUGE BIG NAME hunter's stand with a working class price tag. But this is the society we live in now. Big price tag means EVERYONE clammers to get one. So they can show off how stupid they are with their money. But that's not what people think of. PEOPLE THINK A BIG PRICE TAG MEANS BIG SOCIAL STATUS. It's kinda like everyone running out to spend $600 on an arc'teryx rain jacket. BECAUSE PEOPLE PUT MONEY IN FRONT OF MORALS NOWADAYS. Please don't get me wrong TROLLS this is an AWESOME STAND but $700 after shipping. SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT IT.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Its a tuff pill to swallow when there are other options just as good for $100 less. Or you can get a novix helo for like almost a 1/3 the price.

[@gdj8013]

One of the videos where Dan and Mario are talking about what went into designing the beast stand he says “he would sell it for less if he could “. I don’t personally think he’s trying rip people off by over charging for it. You typically pay more for high quality items made in USA by small companies like his. That said it’s not for everyone but it is what I would call a one time purchase that will be used for many years.

[@minkmink410]

Good review I do feel like they cheaped out on a few things on the stand. But they made it light and big and that is what a lot of people wanted.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks Mink! Its a first model stand, hopefully they will make improvements down the road.

[@davidrussell631]

Only 16.5” wide and you call that big? And while it’s longer than my Assault 2, neither of my LW’s get springy out on the end.

[@bradleyhudson7130]

625$ is just ridiculous! I don’t care to spend money but that’s just dumb! Nice stand but not for 625$! Sticks and stand and you have a grand in it! But hey as long as you look good!!! Fashion hunters lol. Ill stay with lone wolf original!

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I know 625 is absolutely insane

[@kylemurray7086]

Not like I could ever justify spending this much on a stand, but I was kinda let down by the outcome of the review.. I’m 6’4” 280 and I’ve been using climbers for the last 10 or so years, haven’t always been 280 though lol but I’ve been tossing around the different possibilities of saddles, stands, sticks.. and for me, the rigidity of a product is priority way over weight, I can carry a 30lb climber and my bow and gear through Vietnam for miles, that’s not the issue.. with that being said, I’m gonna sift through your other videos for reviews on stuff.. coming from a fellow Michigan hunter 👍🏼

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Thanks man, I appreciate that! At the end of the day this is my review and my opinion. There are lots of videos out there where guys love the stand. Everyone is gonna have a different view and I just like to share my experiences and thoughts and if it can help someone then its worth making these videos.

[@kylemurray7086]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I definitely appreciate the non biased approach instead of pushing product on people.. that’s where it’s at in my opinion and nothing else should matter..

[@kingdrew6665]

This was probably the worst review of the beast stand, not hard to tell you're a LWCG fanboy. I have watched tons of reviews on this stand and no one had the list of complaints you did. Like I always say to people that cry about the cost of hunting, maybe you shouldn't hunt and spend that money elsewhere if things are that tight for you. Dan is a R&D machinist by trade and prototyped stands for 4 yrs before he put the beast stand on the market. So I trust his work and the intensity it took to produce the best stand on the market, I just ordered a stand and set of sticks, and hope I don't pass anyone in the woods to "show off" my stand!! 😅😅😅

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

First off thanks for stopping by to watch the video. Secondly Im gonna go out on a limb to say you're a big Dan Infalt fan? Well I am too, I have been since 2018 when I found the hunting beast. I was once in that brain washed state of mind where I thought Beast gear was the only way to go. When you spend all your time all your time watching hunting beast and Dan that can happen. I learned over time that I was extremely biased over Dan, I was in the same boat. I loved watching Dan and I thought beast gear was the best gear on the planet. I have bent no less than 6 beast sticks over the years and I have to ask my self why? They just kept replacing them and never offering any sort of explanation as to why. After the 6th stick I was done. I traded them off. Then one day I decided to not be so biased on Beast Gear and go and try some other brands. What I found after testing at least 5 or 6 other mobile hunting stands is that there are just better options out there. It's a nice stand, I surely mentioned that in the video several times. It's lacking in many areas of key features that a LWCG or Novix stand do a lot better. Ive tried darn near all the stands on the market and the Beast gear stand just doesn't measure up for bigger guys, it doesn't bite as good on the tree as some other stands do, It makes noise which other stands dont and its only rated for 275 which leaves a lot of big guys out. I have a lot of respect for Dan and the crew, I watch every hunting beast video but unfortunately this one just didn't pass the test for me and there are better options out there currently on the market. Also Ive never hated on anyone who runs a beast gear stand. At the end of the day were all out there to kill deer. p.s. I did end up getting no hole beast sticks and they stopped bending on me. I run them when I saddle hunt. I have a video on my page on those as well. Thanks.

[@Unrealized_Gains2024]

What does Dans pecker taste like? Sounds like you’re calling folks a fanboy while being one yourself. Sorry you don’t like honest reviews that hurt your feelings.

[@shawnwaterman6732]

Nice honest review. But I don't get all the complaining about the price. If you don't want to spend the money don't and move on. The stand does have some flex and I think that is why they rated at 275. He said they are gonna come out with a heavier version for the big guys. So if you are bigger and want something stiffer from the beast it is gonna be alittle bit. I like the stand myself fits what I want it to be perfectly.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

People complain about the price because you can get several other stands for much less and work just as good. Sorry I never heard they were gonna come out with a heavier version. I have a lwcg .5 and it has about 75% less flex. So its more ideal for me.

[@shawnwaterman6732]

@@MichiganGreatOutdoors If lwcg works better for you go for it. My point about the price was if people were following along with the beast stand you would know it was not going to be cheap. Small batch production is expensive. Good luck this season.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

@@shawnwaterman6732 hey man, I dont care what guys use, I just share my opinions for me and maybe it can help some guys. At the end of the day buy whatever makes u happy! Best of luck to you too!

[@skylars4335]

I'd still feel better knowing I bought a lab tested stand than one that wasn't. But that's just me.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Heck yeah man! Glad its working out for you.

[@richstafford1245]

There is no way the stand Dan actually uses could be put on the market. Dan has never been one to get caught up with safety. Lots of his videos show him hunting without a harness. He used to use a climber without the seat and no harness lol. He sets up in tiny dead trees that nobody interested in personal safety would ever set up in. Forget dying but not even a 200 inch buck is worth being a paraplegic….

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

I think the stand just needs a few tweaks and it could really be one of the best on the market!

[@Justin.J.Daniels]

Are you a structural engineer? Doesn’t use second strap for the stand. Wonders why when he lifts up the platform of the tree it lifts up.

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

If you polled 100 guys on Facebook 75% of them would say they don't use the bottom strap. Ive never uses one on my LW assault 2 and it doesn't do that, nor does my .5 or the Helo or the echo or the HUSH. This stand doesn't lock in the same as the other stands, that is what I was trying to point out.

[@gkatchuk]

$625 for a hang in stand!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Not a chance….

[@MichiganGreatOutdoors]

Yeah bro, its insane