Is Ohio State the Best Team in the Country?! | Bigger Ten

Steve and Aaron look ahead to one of the best weeks (on paper) of the college football season.

[@jimford6478]

It is strange that I am an OSU alum and this “Michigan” channel is by far my fav. Always solid reporting and commentary. Well done

[@hispanieldaniel]

Ohio State "bought" a LOT of their 2023 starters from the NFL...And also a handful of transfers. Yes Ohio State spent $20M on roster retention, but this isn't the same as Jimbo and A&M just paying recruits.

[@willie346]

That's called good planning. 😁

[@thomasb.smithjr.8401]

Michigan appears to be the Cassandra / Sybil program of college football : they won the last pure poll driven nat'l title in '97 - and next year began the BCS. They win it all again in '23 under the CFP - and now we have the NFL : pure NIL, portal transfers and 12 team play- off format. 🏉🏈

[@jonwalter6317]

The travelling teams being 1-8 is tempered by the fact that nearly all the teams that lost were the underdog.

[@tedryan2798]

Steve, here is a Michigan scenario: 2nd NOA and infractions hit in December. Michigan caves and accepts all penalties and uses it as an excuse to clean out anyone associated with the last 3 years, including Moore. Michigan follows the Indiana approach and is back in 2 years. (That assumes the M administration decides to participate aggressively in NIL and the portal).

[@rufener6]

I’m happy to see the Michigan struggle for 1 reason. Harbaugh left Moore the keys like Urban left then for Day. All the years of “born on third base” are now coming around.

[@crett5819]

Without a QB is not the same. The worst QB option at OSU is 10 times better than Michigan’s options.

[@nathanielj.gillis5466]

@@crett5819Yet they have who they recruited and have developed. It’s literally on them how bad they are.

[@crett5819]

@@nathanielj.gillis5466 agreed but it is not an apples to apples comparison as the program Urban left had much more player depth.

[@yohanathandowns9057]

Ryan day had to go gwt Justin Fields from UGA year 1 as he KNEW he wouldnt have a QB.​@crett5819

[@Number3boyz]

I’m a buckeye and you’re wrong sir. Jim took everything while urban left everything.

[@taxisquad11]

Michigan should have an entire staff that has done nothing but scouting and evaluating potential portal players since the season began Then the coaches could devote 90% of their time in Bowl prep. Other programs have

[@micahschultz5795]

People are mad at $20 mil spent, but this is a classic example of “don’t hate the player, hate the game.” The game is now you are gonna spend that money if you even want a chance of competing at a high level

[@1Caplaw]

Texas reportedly spent 22 million and UoM spent over 16 million. So, none of them are against the money, they are just upset their team spent so poorly.

[@gordonzill173]

They still have Ryan Day. So, there's that.

[@BulletProofSoul1029]

They are just being petty hippocrites. Michigan openly bragged about their "One More Year Fund" to keep certain players like Corum from the draft. They "bought" players too. How much NIL do you think it would have taken for Michigan to keep guys like JJ, Grant, Loveland, and Johnson if they were draft eligible going into 2023 and projected as 1-3 round picks?

[@kevinjohnston4923]

@@gordonzill173a good coach who didn’t duck opponents or resort to cheating

[@ironmanbuckeye8366]

@@gordonzill173Ryan Day might never be Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. he also won't resort to cheating after he loses to his rivals for 7 years straight. at least he has that much integrity. He probably won't leave the buckeyes in shambles and a cloud of suspicion/sanctions

[@Saidakine]

This Saturday will be the Test. If OSU wins then I say yes they are the Best in the country.

[@alexklucher7842]

Really not understanding the whole "throw out the WV win" argument. What was weird about that game?

[@larryizpr0]

The fact PSU won. Most had us Losing that game. By the way Illinois isn't a test either lmao. Let's forget PSU was supposed to get tested by ILL. Anytime We win They push goal post.

[@matthewkrafft9227]

PSU fan. Steve. Illinois is better than Michigan. The Penn State hate here is palpable. If SC had major issues vs Minney's trenches on both sides. Penn State brings far more up front on both sides of the LOS than Minnesota. The Big Ten will be decided 11/2. In Happy Valley.

[@taxisquad11]

The winter portal will tell if Michigan wants to compete or not.

[@1Caplaw]

Nobody is coming to UoM. What kid is going to go to UoM with the threat of sanctions hanging over the school and a good chance Moore won't be there after this season.

[@travisshuttleworth630]

I guess I missed their picks lol did they pick OSU or Oregon to win?

[@mgoboski]

Ohio State deserves all the success that's coming their way. This juggernaut of a team was built because their coaches, admin and boosters are all on the same page, and they simply want it more than everyone else. Michigan, take notes.

[@GamingTremor]

Agreed, they are all in lock-step from the top down and that makes a huge difference.

[@christiansmith2104]

ORRR…money talks

[@mgoboski]

@@christiansmith2104 Michigan's money talks the same way everyone's money talks. Michigan just won't pay up front what's necessary. Our 2023 Natty roster was largely assembled before NIL was the center of everything. JJ's 2021 class were the very first and the NIL game has changed a lot since then.

[@Isaac121]

Y’all did it last year are turn this year

[@taxisquad11]

@@christiansmith2104 Michigan is too cheap to compete

[@sbrown4556]

Even if Oregon wins, or Penn State beats O$U in November, if either of those teams were to have aspirations of winning a natty, they would have to beat O$U *2 additional times*. So even if O$U is overrated (which I doubt), no one is beating them 2 times out of three.

[@timgarner2571]

I watch several podcasts regularly. But the analyses and insights you guys have are head and shoulders above the rest. Keep up the good work. Is it my TV? Do I need to make some sort of adjustment ? It always seems that Aaron is sitting in the dark in his studio. Please help me to understand.

[@BulletProofSoul1029]

Do you even realize how bitter and petty you sound, considering Michigan's Natty was built off close to double the transfers as Ohio State plus millions spent on a "One More Year Fund" to retain certain players? Now you want to cry because OSU's players have a higher market value than yours. I mean seriously, how much NIL do you think it would have taken last year from Michigan to just to keep JJ, Graham, Johnson, Loveland, and Grant if they were draft eligible going into 2023? Use some common sense and quit being blinded with rivalry pettiness. It makes you sound slow.🙄

[@sbrown4556]

One phrase I am surprised to not have heard yet on this channel is "tie-breaker wins". Michigan has a nice one already, (yes, I know this year that won't amount to much) and the winner of Oregon-O$U will have a phenomenal one. So, not only is O$U the best team in the country, but they will have the best tiebreaker win on their schedule to date. Time to start fighting for #2 in the conference.

[@Jay-n262]

Sherrone Moore is in over his head. They were thoroughly out coached in Washington.

[@hebrewhammer4086]

The whole coaching staff is by the looks.

[@panic2372]

JMU qb actually transfered to Texas St. Rouke transfered in from Ohio U. Just FYI.

[@stevelunde5683]

Always enjoy your palaver. Thanks fellas.

[@Channel4Marc]

Remember that the vast majority of the $$ spent were to keep players in school for another year and only 5 players new to the team....much easier to have only 5 guys to get them to buy into Buckeye culture

[@mattschultzfinkler]

“U Indiana” bro what

[@steveparish4209]

I said all of last year, Michigan looked the part and they proved me right. So far, Ohio State looks the part. Time will tell if they can close the deal. This weekend will tell us a lot.

[@charlesfriebis7954]

Don't go that far with what Indiana is doing. Mel Tucker had a 10 win season where he beat the the eventual B1G champ in 2021, with a transfer portal team. Indiana does look good, but I think their schedule plays into this. They do not have PSU, and do not play UM or Ohio State until late November.

[@taxisquad11]

It takes more than 4 great players to make a very good team. It takes at least 20. In what round and who will be Michigan's 5th player drafted?

[@gregguess5248]

I know a guy with an Iowa shirt is not giving UM coaching or QB advice lmao

[@davidhernandez9985]

They will not be undrafted in that cesspool south of Ann Arbor. Always, GOBLUE-NATTYUP🏆!

[@GBU61]

Watching the SEC, there is no dominant team. Texas may be the best and after the Georgia game we will see. This Ohio State team looks solid on both sides of the ball and leads the categories nationally that indicate it is an elite team. Actually a case can be made that Oregon and Ohio State are the best two teams in the country.

[@jofi4580]

Not buying Oregon yet. The SEC became the Big12 overnight. Shock and Awe offenses with very little defense played.

[@messagetous]

Wait for the Illinois game. 1-0, good. 0-1, bad. Every game is big. Remember how you felt after the USC game?

[@Chris.3791]

Sherrone Moore is going to be a good head coach. But I think that this is too much too soon for him. Michigan isn’t the kind of job where you start your head coaching career, it’s where you aspire to end up after working your way up the head coaching ladder. Go Blue.

[@hebrewhammer4086]

Ohio state texas in the natty and I hate to say it but ohio state wins it all.

[@jimford6478]

Multiple years of the Natty going to the Big 10 would be awesome

[@hebrewhammer4086]

@@jimford6478 even tho I agree, I could never find myself rooting for ohio state, except maybe against bama or georgia.

[@ericspicer5132]

Its Ohio State and Texas and then everyone else rn

[@MadDog-ku2vz]

Michigan isn’t losing another BIG TEN game all year! Mark it down, brother!! I’m ashamed of Steve Deace, even when Michigan was on top he was picking them to lose.

[@razor7241]

😂😂😂😂. You are delusional!

[@WidgeonDrake]

Michigan will lose to Oregon on Nov 2nd. 🦆

[@WidgeonDrake]

Go Ducks!

[@SuspenseESCAPEremastered]

Why is TEXAS is ranked #1 over Ohio State?

[@bwl57]

If Miller moss played for michigan he'd on his back even more than he is and would have the same results as warren or tuttle. Stop trying to judge qbs behind that atrocious protection.

[@BourbonInhibitions]

They have played literally no one.

[@kevinjohnston4923]

Iowa defense is someone.

[@sbrown4556]

This is the second year a team beats Iowa by either 31 - 0 or 35 - 0. Then, conveniently *after* the game, they suddenly haven't played anyone. I think Iowa is better than Vanderbilt. I didn't see O$U lose control of the game last week.

[@Ghost_of_a_Flea]

By far my favorite BigTen show.

[@supersaiyan44035]

6:38 ......... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@asdfghtkujshae5g]

6:59 .......... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnhudson9203]

They should be after spending $20/$25 million this past year for the sole purpose to beat Michigan. It’s a bought and paid for team .

[@gordonzill173]

Are they the best? We don't know. They need to prove it and stop talking about it!

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

I wished Ryan Day left Ohio State their fans don’t deserve him. They really wanted him fired for losing to a Michigan team that hadn’t lost a regular season game in 2 years and a Georgia team that hasn’t lost ANY game in 2 year. Ohio State is good because he reloads. Michigan doesn’t recruit at the same clip Ohio State does so the drop off will be much bigger. If they fired Ryan Day their top 3 classe and Jermaiah Smith wouldn’t have come and the transfer portal would have smoked the rest of the roster.

[@sbrown4556]

I agree. "Yeah, yeah, we basically win all of our games, but how DARE you not beat teams better than you?" I don't see evidence that Day is anything better than a tremendous college football coach. He has the best players, but many coaches can (and do) mess that up and underperform (Lincoln Riley?)

[@razor7241]

@@sbrown4556Urban Meyer said the number 1 quality of a college HC is the ability to recruit. And Day was NEVER in jeopardy of being fired. Whoever came up with that BS doesn’t know shit!

[@OnlineMathTutor--]

Go Buckeyes

[@larryizpr0]

Way to push goal post with Penn State. First it was WVU who was gonna best us. Then it was Ranked Illinois cause we didnt play anyone. Now USC game. 😂 that shit is so funny to me. Its laughable people refuse to credit Penn state for anything.

[@sbrown4556]

As a Penn State fan I am more than fine with getting perceived no respect. It keeps the players focused. I don't complain, because I've learned from when I was younger that there is no point in whining about "respect" if you go out and lose the next game. Make a statement on the field.

[@conservatron]

It’s the nature of the beast. According to SEC team fans no team in the B1G plays anyone unless they face an SEC opponent. They found out last year it was flawed logic and may have another season finding that out

[@BIMBA7579-rr6gh]

The verdict is in: Michigan buy out Moore and his staff at seasons end.

[@hispanieldaniel]

OSU paid their NFL-draftable players to stay in school. Michigan could have tried but a lot of Michigan's players were out of eligibility.

[@samuelgainey8336]

The elephant in the room is bad qb play and mediocre offensive line play.

[@jofi4580]

Talk is cheap. If they win a natty, ill congratulate them. Until then...🤫

[@razor7241]

No you won’t.

[@_jse123]

OSu program isn't that good they just paid more than anyone else and have been in the big 10 for the last 20 yrs and still have not won a natty in 10 years😂😂😂 Indiana will not be good in 2 season are you guys serious??

[@nick21614]

That might be true if OSU just bought a bunch of transfers, but they didn't. Most of their money went to players that were there for 3-4 years that came back to college instead of going to the NFL. That is good for college football.

[@JasonBaer-k3c]

Stop talking clown. Hate all you want like the little girl you are. OSU is that good! Cope

[@JasonBaer-k3c]

And no, they didn't pay more than anyone else. They're like number 5 in NIL spent. Shut up, cry harder, and go bucks!

[@JasonBaer-k3c]

Oh and Ichigan will lose to Indiana. Lol. Can't wait to hear excuses after that game.

[@_jse123]

@@JasonBaer-k3c they aren't OSu they do not make excuses

[@Number3boyz]

Steve win or lose I don’t think Ohio state is gonna have to dethrone Michigan at all, yall are gonna do that to yourselves. 😢 Steve trying to hang onto what he can. NOA, couple more weeks for Michigans response. Moore is gonna get scarified for it all also. Steve we better hear also when all of it is taken away what your response is gonna be also.

[@chs_ambs8356]

I'm a Michigan fan in Ankeny- it's utter blasphemy you wearing Hawkeye gear.

[@BassYakCam]

They’re good, but not the best in the country.

[@JasonBaer-k3c]

They are amd they'll show it Saturday

[@BassYakCam]

@@JasonBaer-k3c Beating Oregon does not make you the best in the country.

[@sbrown4556]

@@BassYakCam I agree, but they're the best anyway.

[@BassYakCam]

@@sbrown4556 possibly. Agree to disagree. We’ll see how it all shakes out.