Michkov vs. Demidov

[@vincentjolicoeur]

Demidov's the fast-pace playmaker, Michkov's the sneaky shooter.

[@Theon435]

But Arseni Gritsyuk is better than both.

[@sorus888]

Both will be exceptional talent and will be superstar. I think I prefer demidov for playoff time and is upward trajectory in the last 2 year. He seem had phenomenal work ethics.

[@zors5188]

Habs fan here- I think both will be great! I don’t care that we passed on Mitchkov today and I’m super excited to see Demidov come over…!

[@maximusrusso8758]

I like Reinbacher but having this duo of Russian star wingers would’ve been too fun.

[@JeanJames-ff3wx]

​@@maximusrusso8758yeah but one of them didnt want to play for montreal 🥲

[@will78787]

Having both michkov and demidov on the same line would have been nuts

[@Theon435]

But Arseni Gritsyuk is better than both.

[@marcroy5089]

Imagine if we had both

[@Mitchellweber_]

To think montreal could have them both 😢😢😢

[@jibol998]

Reinbacher is gonna be way more valuable. a large right hand shot D man.

[@TheCKing7]

Michkov and Torts will be fascinating to watch for sure lol

[@Zaghzackio]

Both have proven themselves to be phenomenal talents. Michkov is probably the better player but I love watching Demidov play

[@WitWafer]

I think in a few years Demidov will be labeled as the better shooter/ goal scorer and Michkov will be known as an elite playmaker with 30 goal upside.

[@Zacklemz15]

I think the other way around

[@davidcutler1486]

Demidov is great but I promise the real debate will actually end up being celebrini vs michkov . Michkov could be better don’t sleep

[@Unholy_Louie]

Honestly, I don't think Celebrini will be THAT good. It's just an opinion, but I think Michkov and Demidov will both be in a higher tier. We'll see eh!

[@Nate1995]

@@Unholy_Louie if that was the case celebrini wouldn’t of went first ovrall

[@DavidDavidDavidDavidDavid]

So by your logic, Hischier is better than Makar and Ekblad is better than Draisaitl?

[@Unholy_Louie]

@@Nate1995 I... What? This must be a joke right? Or is the 2024 draft the ONLY one you know anything about, so nothing about the last 10, last 20, last 30, 40... no? Even with a vague notion of what a pro sport PROSPECT draft is, or hell, even an idea of the definition of what the word "prospect" means, should already hint at how insanely moronic your statement is. God damn dude, you can't be seriously that dense. It's too much I feel I'm losing brain cells just by reading your reply.

[@Unholy_Louie]

@@DavidDavidDavidDavidDavid Exactly. And an almost unending list of other examples too. Otherwise the interest in hypothetical re-drafting several years later wouldn't exist. I can't believe someone able to type on a computer, in an understandable language, could write such a reply. Duuuuumb AF.

[@doom1354]

Michov will score more points, but Demidov will impact the overall game more. Watching Demidov's KHL games the kid absolutely hounds the opponents for the puck like a dog going after a bone. Great to see a player with that much skill and talent seemingly putting as much effort as he possibly can into the defensive side of the game.

[@reecelaroche]

@@doom1354 spiral out. Keep going

[@BlakeMcGuireHockey]

Great break down! Don't underestimate Michkov's playmaking!

[@jerrysbrain]

im so happy for the flyers to finally be a talking point again, even if its just about rookies

[@Veopoz]

Demidov is going to smash all KHL records for a rookie

[@APJTA]

Offensively, Michkov will definitely be scoring more goals than Demidov, but Demidov will have way more assists and might therefore be ahead on points. Defensively, I think Michkov could end up as an average player if all goes right, while Demidov could end up as a high-end player if he works on his skating. The effort level is already there with Demidov.

[@thekerbykerb5094]

Love the videos man

[@bluechipprospect]

Always like your videos 👍. We were timed on this one, I literally made the same video Tuesday !

[@HecticHockey]

Ha I saw it in my recommended while I was editing

[@randybarrett7]

It's crazy so many clubs passed on Michkov including the Habs:( The Habs did get Demidov👍Just hoping Reinbacher turns into a star D🤞

[@elvisisalive2716]

@@randybarrett7 Reinbacher is awful , even Leonard would have been a better pick. What a blown draft opportunity, even Price couldn’t believe the Habs stupidity on this draft

[@beep_beeooop]

dude Demidov x Laine is gonna be NASTY

[@thiefysden]

love the videos !

[@lucasrozmus9388]

demidov should have the better KHL season as well since he plays on the better team with stars all over the team

[@TaigaShaman]

Michkov should go play lacrosse, what a hoser.

[@vdel9279]

Michkov will be a skilled scorer Demidov will be a skill playmaker 😀

[@stockey]

Demidov will be both.

[@xlr0gd205]

The Habs should be excited, they are getting Brayden Point 2.0

[@jerryboss68]

If it wasn’t the Russian factor, Michkov competed with bedard for 1. Demidov never was in competition with Celebrini.

[@bruh4977]

Well alot of scout say demidov have a higher ceilling than celebrini.

[@MrHawky-sc6lo]

LOL other way around, zero chance anyone competed with Bedard.

[@ricardocorreia1373]

@@MrHawky-sc6lohe’s actually right tho. It wasn’t only the Russian factor, rumors were going around that michkov did not want to come in the nhl, that scared team away. Michkov is viewed as being the best Russian player (after ovi) and demidov is basically the same. (Habs fan here)

[@stockey]

I personnaly think, he will be better than Celebrini.

[@jerryboss68]

@@MrHawky-sc6lo I know McDavid is better than Kucherov. But the ceiling is there for Michkov

[@prozac.]

Pretty cool that their born on the 9th and 10th of December

[@HecticHockey]

Makes them easy to compare for sure

[@Neko-wt7rz]

Demidov just had a 4 points game today !

[@cmz5847]

Michkov looked really good in the rookie game vs NY. He coulda had like 3-4 goals at least 😂

[@frankrigatoni]

torts will make sure mich doesnt ever play lazy or with a lack of pace

[@frankmack9505]

Both Will be great. One edge Demidov has is that he is much bigger then Michkov. That may not mean anything but It usually does for skilled players in the nhl. Size def helps when all other skill sets are equal.

[@janzkee]

people always say defense is not someones strong suit when you literally have to be natural at defense to be at that level imo. they usually sacrifice defensive positioning for offensive positioning which is what forwards should be doing, other than centers and 2 way forwards who make it obvious they will be playing the defensive game.

[@bruh4977]

Michkov is a better shooter,stick handling they are both close but i think demidov got this one, playmaking i think demidov is more a playmaker than michkov. Demidov is better defensively and love to play in traffic and he is bigger. Overall the 2 will be good , mitchkov will be a elite scorer and demidov playmaker. If i need to chose for playoff i take demidov

[@Theon435]

Arseni Gritsyuk

[@samkoivu]

Demidov has a much better 2 way game

[@Patrick33456]

Anyone calling Michkov a sniper has never watched Michkov play hockey

[@codycassel8996]

What are you talking about he’s been a known sniper for years

[@HockeyPlaymaker25]

Then what is he then?​@@codycassel8996

[@iamyou2303]

@Patrick33456 what you yapping about

[@Patrick33456]

@@codycassel8996 watch him play. You'll see this year. IQ and playmaking are much higher than his ability to snipe shots.

[@sharkhaos_probably]

Both good in different ways. I'll take Michkov overall, but I think I'll end up a bigger fan of Demidov (early onset habs fandom)

[@kingha88]

Demidov and it’s honestly not close

[@flackjacket3dits]

Demidov>

[@elvisisalive2716]

Is this video for real? Demidov is a shooter first , his passing is a gift. I mean come on

[@iamyou2303]

People trying to compare Demidov to Michcov is crazy

[@sylvanmw]

It's closer than most think. Michkov is phenomenal but he's not Bedard.

[@iamyou2303]

@@sylvanmw yea but he’s no a Demidov, that’s disrespectful to Mihckov to compare him to Demidov

[@jeromelasonde8672]

@@iamyou2303 Lol Demidov had one If not the best MHL season ever RECORDED from a 18 y old , better then kucherov and he was even better in series... he also stay with the SKA (strong KHL team while mitchkov was send to B KHL team) also as of right now Demidov is the best player from SKA with 6 pts in 6 games.

[@LarryLevantine]

​@@jeromelasonde8672that's because Michkov was too good for the MHL as an 18 year old. Demidov playing in a lesser league at the same age is not a score for Demidov, it's a black mark against him when comparing him to Michkov. Also Michkov was benched and then loaned to Sochi, a bottom feeder team, because he refused to sign a contract extension with SKA. He then carried that team, which scores half as many goals as SKA, with 41 points in 47 games as an 18-19 year old.

[@akzdinho]

@@LarryLevantine The reasons for Michkov's removal from SKA's main team/ loan to Sochi had nothing to do with him not wanting to renew, as he had 3 years remaining on his deal during that time, him informing SKA of his desire to break the contract would be a more logical explanation but even that is not the main reason for his loan to Sochi. If you tracked SKA over the past few seasons you'd know that Michkov was excluded because as with most 18/19 year old there were major holes in his game, he cheated a lot on ice, couldnt care less about the defense aspect of the game and before his first loan to Sochi where he began to show some of his assisting skill he played a very selfish brand of hockey. SKA despite their struggles and criticism over the 6-7 years is a team that wants to win and has a tendency to prefer vets over prospects for their KHL team. It's also very easy to put up points on a bottom feeder team, Sochi, that has no ambitions of playing winning hockey where he doesnt face any repercussion for cheating on ice (sometimes to the point that it looks ridiculous), gets PP1 time, and staying on ice 1-2 + minutes more than your expected ice time. As for the statement " Michkov was too good for the MHL as an 18 year old" this is true for both parties, Demidov was named MHL mvp in his first full season w/ SKA 1946 at 17/18. Demidov also made the KHL team ahead of Michkov last season as a limiter (12th/13th forward) off the back of a PPG KHL preseason before getting sent down because 6 minutes a game for a developing forward wasnt optimal. Sometimes I think people get caught up in the hype/stats rather than watching how each player affects the game and the context behind those stats.

[@alphamale4182]

Russian sniper vs russian playmaker we could of had both imagine on the pp? Habs are dumb

[@iamyou2303]

That’s like comparing Ovechekin to yakapov

[@frankmack9505]

This is a really dumb statement. Its like comparing Ovechkin n Malkin dont be one of them haters just because a certain player landed on a team you dont like.

[@iamyou2303]

@@frankmack9505 na don’t compare Demidov to Malkin that’s just disrespectful to Malkin

[@jurajslafkovsky3956]

Im farting in your face

[@Will-im2np]

No one asked u Logan

[@iamyou2303]

@@Will-im2np no one needed to ask me

[@daveblanco8271]

Michkov is like the Ovi/Kaprizov and Demidov is the Kucherov/Panarin. Would rather have demidov, he will win you games come playoff time, he’s more complete.

[@sth1928]

What if mtl take him ? Demidov and michkov on the same line !!

[@isaacrice7165]

too many forward prospects had to take the D last year or we wouldnt of had demidov this year

[@jdm3075]

The only reason they seem "close" is because of the overwhelming about of Habs fans deluding themselves into thinking Demidov is better than Michkov and spamming it all over the internet. Look at all of their achievements side by side and you'll see Michkov has outperformed Demidov at every single level and at younger ages. Michkov played more total KHL games against men in 2021 than Demidov has IN HIS LIFE. Demidov is going to be a great player but he's done nothing to prove he's on Michkov's level, let alone above it.

[@philippelafrance5457]

Looking at their achievements side by side, it only seems like Michkov has had better opportunities for reasons unrelated to performance. Same draft class, Demidov is gone first.

[@jeromelasonde8672]

Not saying demidov was in the MHL because of the contract stuggle he had with the SKA is wrong tho. 6 Pts in 6 games so far , best player from the SKA so far aswell for Demidov (something Mitchkov couldn't do (stay with the SKA))

[@pauldeol]

Lol go take a look at the Toronto Maple Leafs. Take a look at Auston Matthew’s achievements, Mich Marners, all the stars on their team. Sure they score a lot of goals in the regular season, what happens during the playoffs? They’re soft as baby shit. Demidov has much more drive and a much higher compete level than Michkov and he’s the player we want on our team for a cup run, not Michkov & his poor attitude. Go Habs Go

[@MotoTavira]

Michkov is clearly a step above Demidov (as much as Habs fans want to believe otherwise). Demidov will be very good but Matvei plays at genius level.

[@stockey]

Lol, complete opposite.

[@reecelaroche]

It’s Michkov right now and it’s not even close in my opinion. The fact that this is even a debate is because of the Montreal hype train

[@frankmack9505]

No its because pretty much every scout says so. Has nothing to do with mtl. " its not even close " Yeh every other scout has them really really close but since you said its not even close ok lets listen to you. lol

[@reecelaroche]

@@frankmack9505 Lets break it down. Scouts describe Michkov as generational and said he was genuinely close to Bedard. The only reason he fell was because of the uncertainty regarding his situation. Celebrini was drafted like 3 spots ahead of Demidov and was the clear cut no 1 pick and every scout knows Bedard is better than Celebrini.

[@bravepotatoe7513]

@@reecelaroche So your argument is MMA math ?

[@frankmack9505]

@@reecelaroche michkov is 100 not generational. I never read or seen anything about him being a generational type. Franchise type yes. I had michkov rated as better because of his khl numbers but it's marginal at best. I watched both play a good bit but watched demidov more. They are completely different players but very close

[@marquisduhsade]

Montreal fans are trying to convince themselves and others that Demidov is better lol

[@krisburgess2857]

Michkov is the better player no question asked