MICK FOLEY: "Working with Randy Orton..." | Foley is POD

Mick Foley's series of return matches in 2004. Mick Foley and Conrad Thompson unpack everything surrounding WrestleMania 20 and Backlash 2004. Topics cover everything from Randy Orton, Ric Flair, the Rock, Willem Dafoe, Bray Wyatt, Maxx Payne, and Marlon Brando's stick of butter. This mega episode details a disappointing handicap tag followed by Mick's personal favorite match of his career in a brutal no-holds-barred battle with Randy Orton.
#mickfoley #foleyispod #randyorton

[@LobsterRavioli]

It’s always interesting to hear how much horrible things Orton had to do or say, that he didn’t want to.

[@theonlygoodonehere2259]

That’s part of the reason why orton hated the legend killer gimmick at times

[@TheseBitchesWantNikes]

​@theonlygoodonehere2259 I would imagine so. Imagine having to essentially bury your childhood heroes as a gimmick. Idk if I could do that. Especially to Mick.

[@johnnypolo1983]

Jesus, Conrad, summarize the LOOOONG Meltzer excerpts.

[@michaelmansini2307]

That just kept going and going and going

[@samrizza8785]

Cry more

[@ChrisHopkinsBass]

Keep the length - it shows what a windbag Meltzer

[@freewillygoss]

@@samrizza8785 Sure, once you stop crying

[@babayagaslobbedaknobba]

I stopped listening to Conrad because of his obsession with Meltzer.

[@OneSideofFries]

The promo Mick cut on Randy on Raw sometime after the 2004 Rumble if I’m not mistaken, was one of the best and underrated promos I’ve ever seen. I wish people talked about that segment more.

[@wvmetsfan]

Got a link for that?

[@mellzneal3151]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJmuc4WLr9h0a9k i believe this the promo ?

[@georgesazon9726]

​@@wvmetsfansearch Foley introduce barbie

[@TheLibermania]

You mean the one that inspired Bray Wyatt to use a rocking chair?

[@OneSideofFries]

@@wvmetsfan kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJmuc4WLr9h0a9ksi=t9mf__wqyRdCpWLQ

[@TheseBitchesWantNikes]

Foley is such a real one for this. And this worked so well because watching that as a kid, when Orton spit in his face, 12 year-old me wanted Orton's head.

[@markrobinson9394]

To me, this feud is still the most successful case of an older wrestler taking a younger wrestler under their wing and making them a superstar with the fans. Randy is my favourite wrestler ever, but even I can admit that he was a nobody before the feud with Mick. Evolution certainly helped, but it was the months of disrespecting Mick, and ultimately culminating with Randy being taken to school in the No Holds Barred match, that resulted in him becoming a made man.

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

Mick was always good at making his opponent look good.

[@SancLunatic]

So many wrestlers owe it to Mick Foley for helping make them famous. He made Triple H, Edge and Randy Orton main event players each in one match. He turned the Undertaker from a main event player to a legend in one match. He had other memorable matches with The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and Shawn Michaels.

[@dtn9679]

So true

[@gregoryharlow1347]

I'm a local, and I remember seeing you at the gym around the Backlash match. In 20 years at that gym, still my coolest memory. I didn't wanna mess up your workout, but I totally jumped on the machine next to you. Best motivation ever.

[@BloodyEyeGamer]

I swear, Mick Foley is a tremendous storyteller. I’m really enjoying these videos a lot.

[@MrRadical87]

That spit actually traumatized me as a child, I felt such shock watching it. It's quite therapeutic to hear Foley talk about it, and say it was his idea etc.

[@jmurdock8303]

What a wuss 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@1987Liono]

Don't worry. Randy paid with the tacks.

[@markb35]

@@jmurdock8303 Watch out everybody, we got a tough guy over here

[@joesquitieri9279]

No way he read that whole thing just to say - “so how did this thing come to be?” 😭

[@genxtasy9914]

Lol right?

[@BiLaLTravelsOTD]

Honestly! Jesus Christ

[@lionhearted7450]

CONrad is a schmuck

[@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE]

One of the best storylines in 03-04 and also an important moment for randy's career after the backlash match i really took orton seriously and felt he can be a main eventer.. oh boy and 20 years later.

[@jasonrice9973]

Mick is a total legend 😂 ‘Vince I have an idea.. il come back and enter the Rumble and Win it, then I will win a triple threat at wrestle mania to unify the title... ..... then I’m going to win the 6 man MITB ladder match later in the year, so no one else can cash that in .....then I think it would be good if I won both the men’s & women’s elimination chamber match at that PPV’ Vince - ‘No Mick’

[@mattroxursoul]

Honestly if you could teleport 99 Foley to the current WWE that would be a viable plan

[@louie8425]

@@mattroxursoul no matt

[@markrobinson9394]

Mick: Vince, I think I should travel back in time and slam Andre, beat Hogan for the title in the ultimate challenge, cut a promo about Foley 3:16 and put it on a T-shirt, screw Bret in Montreal, beat Rock and Austin in the same night to unify the titles, end Taker's WrestleMania streak, and break Flair's title record. What do you say? Vince: No, Mick.

[@azapro911]

If you can get Orton invested in a strong idea, he'll give it everything. He trusted Mick completely while other veterans advised him not to, the result was a feud and match that made him.

[@DatHeat2]

Orton got hell of heat. Great idea from Foley😊

[@mattcaporuscio6956]

I started watching WWE in 2003 and the Orton spitting on Foley segment was one of the first storylines I ever watched.

[@simplyhuman2213]

Hooked you?

[@mattcaporuscio6956]

@@simplyhuman2213 I guess you can kinda say that. I don’t exactly remember what exactly caused me to be hooked but my grandfather watched it so I got it from that but this was one of my earliest memories for WWE. I think I really started watching WWE in Fall 2003 because I believe Goldberg was the first World Champion I could remember and I think WWE replayed this Foley/Orton segment for months because I don’t believe I watched this segment live.

[@simplyhuman2213]

@@mattcaporuscio6956 Nice

[@AngelGarcia-pt4bv]

Foley is An icon . One the heros on my list .

[@tuckermcelroy7055]

"Meltzer would write...blah blah blah blah blah blah...blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...blah blah blah blah blah blah blah" holy scrotums that opening few minutes was mind numbing.

[@markterryonline]

I was at the show when Randy spit on him. There were people in the crowd talking about leaving but no one did.

[@CactusInsane]

If someone told me in 2004 that Mick Foley was returning and working full time again, I would've believed you. Mick was so fit and in shape he was running laps around folks I'm the ring. The best version of Mick Foley

[@SirJoelsuf1]

Ehh I wouldn't give him that much credit. Foley was a little more broken down than Michaels was and they're both the same age. Michaels returning in 2002 had to have planted a seed in Foley returning.

[@CactusInsane]

@@SirJoelsuf1 I mean compare to his debut in the wwf to then. Foley was moving pretty fast even with those serious additional injuries during those years. Unfortunately either time caught up afterwards and his injuries definitely started to catch up quickly

[@tookiewilliams4526]

I really hated getting his autograph making him stand up with all those nuts and bolts that put him together. Always some force that makes him get back up from a 3 story fall , Mick is always in pain with concussion headaches. Mick is the Yoda of WWE.

[@MrRodzilla]

actually i remember a previous crisis in confidence angle with Dean Malenko going home and Chris Jericho baiting him for weeks/months and it was an incredible pop when Malenko eventually returned dressed as the luchadore Ciclope and surprising Jericho this is a great way to get people on your side

[@mjhammer11]

I find it incredible this was all so long ago now. So many stories.

[@buckyhate7695]

"A loogie of that magnitude". Only you could use a phrase like that, amd make me laugh out loud, Mick.

[@pyperbarrows8051]

Mick foley is the very best!!!!

[@herculesmwp7983]

Now that’s a great story

[@ToxicKingMad]

Conrad constantly reading those insufferable rambles from Dave Meltzer 🙄

[@daltonjones2389]

I was a kid when that aired in 03. I had never seen someone spit on someone before. Very impactful for my 7 year old self

[@SirJoelsuf1]

Thing is, Foley was 39 during his matches with Orton in 2004. Michaels coming back two years before at 37 must have planted a seed in some way. And I had an idea that Orton spitting in Foley's face was Foley's idea. Just had to be.

[@thelocusst]

Mick is so well spoken, it’s easy to forget that he’s the same guy that destroyed his own body for years.

[@mairey19]

@2:34 to skip Davey Meltzer ~!

[@illlogic1993]

Foley is God is an understatement. I love this man's mind

[@coreyhall1150]

Nah Foley Is Goooood

[@--thatbih]

That whole 2½ minute introduction could've easily been summarized

[@themanifeststation3757]

Foley is GOD!

[@sprunnel]

Hey guys I'm still stuck on Conrads reading of Uncle Dave, any advice to make this shorter, does this finish at any point?

[@roach2go]

Great story....you guys had me. I can forget its sports entertainment. Randy is as awesome

[@joeyzapata6786]

Hot damn, Mick has such a mind for the business. Why the hell isn't he on WWE's creative team?

[@randallrigney420]

I came to hear Mick, not uncle Dave.

[@Naruto0s44]

You can tell Orton didn't wanna do half the shit he did with Foley

[@louie8425]

are you sure? Because back in 03' he look like he was playing that cocky arrogant asshole wayyyy too good. Lol

[@danielbuxton3805]

That's why you need THE Brian Last

[@wrestlingwithart]

Best mind in the business.

[@coreyhall1150]

Wouldn't go THAT FAR but he's up there... Paul Heyman is a fucking genius.

[@jamesb5764]

I fell asleep during that “Uncle Dave” promo… geez!!!!

[@garethmorgan7474]

Well done foley top man and top wwe superstar

[@chrisg1915]

I tell you in my life i have a listen of people id love to meet. Stone cold, undertaker, the rock, goldberg, triple h, shawn michaels, sting, sylvester stallone, john travolta, kane, john cena, kevin nash, brock kesnar, rey mysterio, bret hart, vin diesel, tyrese, and mick foley for males and torrie wilson, stacy Keibler, trish stratus, megan fox, britney spears, and alexis bliss for females. Id give anything to meet them all and have a full picture of those people. I know it would never happen though. Be nice.

[@williambotner2317]

London Kentucky loves ya

[@SlyCarey]

Randy is my favourite of all time. His match with Mick is still my favourite Randy match

[@grilledcheesus69]

thank you so much mick. You sir are a legend and you make me proud to be a Hoosier! I hope someday i can meet you and you can sign my hardcopy of Have a nice day. Ive been a fan since childhood. You created sooo many memories. I dressed up as mankind and dude love for Halloween. This year im going as cactus Jack 🌵

[@TylerMorganShow]

Bring Mick back

[@coreyhall1150]

Why? Who would he work with? Noone in the new era is worthy of working with Mick.

[@lastfewtokes]

Why tf do you read full paragraph long Meltzer quotes? It kills the momentum.

[@NoName-cz3wn]

Why does Mick look like Ludwig, the Holy Blade in that picture with Orton?

[@jasonpdsi]

So, I get it if people are a bit over Conrad reading the Observer with someone like Bruce, because honestly, most of it sounds like company line bullshit or pure speculation from Bruce. With a guy who was in the mix like Foley-I look forward to getting his side of the story because he was actually in the. ring.

[@radandpaisley]

"He didn't want be that disrespectful" wat

[@JohnSmith-ro2sc]

At the time he was still a comparative kid and rookie in the business. Growing up in it, he knew it was a great honor and was handling as a rookie should

[@deralfenderson]

Yeah, I’m scratching my head on that too. It’s the THUMBNAIL. HIRE A DAMN PROOFREADER.

[@deralfenderson]

@@JohnSmith-ro2sc He’s referencing the thumbnail. The thing that is supposed to draw viewers in. I was drawn to this video by grammar errors, and have yet to even hit play on the video. AND I LOVE MICK FOLEY.

[@deralfenderson]

TO BE OR NOT TO BE. That, is the question.

[@deralfenderson]

Also, I can totally see why someone with the profile name “Quite Quiet” would make this comment. Kudos on that. Made me smile.

[@bradleyrobinson7552]

It's memorable. It's unforgettable. For me, it was too far, too disrespectful to Mick and how it reflected on Orton, and I was thinking at the same time: "This was probably Mick's own idea." Lots of bits went too far at the time though!

[@margaretseddon2230]

Gavin says : why does meltzer look like he's on the bottle? : because he's from outer space!!!

[@lwatz7009]

Orton does his job right.

[@DatHeat2]

But yo, Foley pitching him winning the rumble and unifying the titles. Lol, it was worth a try

[@williamzander4732]

He was slapping his face walking off so that’s where Michael Irving got that from . 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂they may split screen that and put Mitch and one side and Michael on the other .

[@Clubber-Slang]

I don't need half the clip to be Conrad poorly reading Meltzer's newsletter.

[@kevinlahue2375]

A life long fan if you don't mind me asking I heard you where born in Indiana I'm from Indiana just wondering if it was true thank you.

[@mikeplumer7687]

For once Melter was right. Very few guys can get themselves over without proper push, gimmick, rub, storyline etc. Jericho in WCW, D Bryan in WWE 2 exceptions. As B Hart points out, Tonga kid went from nobody to main eventer just because he was booked as J Snuka relative.

[@mthokozisindlovu3358]

Absolutely disgusting. This and the chairshot orton gave mick at the rumble was horrific

[@Deathadder1994]

I hate hearing this Meltzer shit every single time… Does Conrad just love Meltzer?

[@darthkahn45]

At this point, what felt like far past the Attitude Era I was losing my love for watching. This was one of the huge contributing factors to me not wanting to watch anymore. This might have come off with another Vet, but this bland, characterless newbie who was clearly being aggressively pushed on us, I just remember thinking "why?"

[@damienharris4697]

Definitely not called save time with conrad conrad needs big tall glass of shut up pie.

[@drfunkypunk]

Randy was also meant to be the one to break The Undertakers streak at Wrestlemania as part of his Legend Killer gimmack, bur refused to do it.... out of respect i would assume.

[@robertespinoza9104]

Mick's definitely a movie buff 😆

[@ericgilbert56]

Yep... WWE has a weird corky (Vince McMahon) way of doing that to legends. (Mark Henry)

[@kurtnourse5320]

vince k. mcmahon retiring what do you think Mick Foley i.s. p.o.d. from t.h.e. a.l.l. elite k.w.n.

[@shmoney6464]

I was soo mad when u took that spit and did nothing

[@Ivantheterrible81280]

They were trying to make Orton’s boring ass as big as the Rock? And ask guys like Ryder & Rusev about if getting over on your own works for you.

[@raveoreynolds6049]

Both Ryder and Rusev are making a living in wrestling currently thanks to what they did in WWE, so evidently it did work for them.

[@KevinDurantisnot]

@@raveoreynolds6049 stop

[@jbfarley]

Idiot, no

[@chrismiller6934]

Whatever he was reading to Mick Foley could have been paraphrased, that took way too long and made me lose interest in the video.

[@clintballard521]

Randy Orton is one of the most overrated wrestlers ever.

[@byronherrera628]

Tbh wwe is starting to get corny and stale with horrible storylines honestly even its weak but the 1 with with domonique and mysterio is the only longest 1 they have tbh they really need creative ideas

[@coreyhall1150]

Of evolution would have jumped mick that angle would not have gotten WHITE HOT like it did. The spitting thing was genius.