Fast cars won't make you happy

[@ilkinmamedov6026]

You can't guess how much respect i have for you, for posting this video, for how much wisdom you have. You just told, what most people are scared to state.

[@MickDrivesCars]

Thank you! I had nobody to teach me such things so I'm hoping I can do it for someone else

[@Jeff-cv4qn]

Very true

[@sport300uk]

@@MickDrivesCars Check your emails mate go in another direction like me LOL double down ha ha!

[@khanmimaad]

100%, especially the end. In a world where the rich get richer and everyone else gets poorer, if you’re not rich enough to cover yourself multiple times over it doesn’t make sense to keep around nice cars like an M240i / M2 relative to their sportiness, an MX-5 would cover all the driving enjoyment possible while being mechanically simple and cheap enough to maintain for a lifetime

[@ouch9326]

​@@MickDrivesCars waste of insurance etc money, noisyness bumpyness is only a problem if its tiring you out, in which case you probably should use shoulder speakers with partial noise cancelation on, and have seat cushion if it does bother you. its illegal to cover ears for saftey reasons in some areas, so if you cant find shoulder speakers which cancel harsh noise, earbuds that do so arnt a option see video called "my racing sim feels liek real life now" by optimum. grip limit , steering range of motion, lap type, sound etc all can be personalized... so real life motor sport isn't simply enjoying the mandatory commute driving funs is escaping perceived danger and driving style for lower emissions(like endurance racing, avoiding need to pitstop for tires, fuel) to whatever extent you wish. driving rules for sustainability and emissions means: exponential accelerator pedal compression pace from around 5 miler per hour , optimal energy level , engine RPM . put down more power than that before uphills and on downhills brake and steer minimally and steadily. about emissions: games fail to give that wanted sense of accomplishment if they arnt challenging enough. you might argue "muh study, da uder study, buh buh who fund study, da money printers" etc, but its a good general rule to not mess with natural order. so whatever is lightweight and efficient, Electric car or not, probably good enough. that is how some people truely do care about emissions and arnt only trying to pretend like their somehow better than some other or hopeing theyll get some cheap little admiration, like a nerd or a bimbo or something. misha choudrins video of power non modified, modified only suspension brakes wheels, someone in comments section said its faster around turns than some speciic supercars, misha said a porsche gt3 level thing doesnt feel faster than a toyota gr 86 non modified by power, only handling mods. saftey is not a issue if you can move quick and health is good with good mental muscle control practice as you should be doing anyway for memorizing movement control against forgetting when you get alzheimer's, and to wake your body up more. moving weights without moving them by gym machines which demand movement fo particular direction etc makes those stabilizing muscles work more. helps bone strength and testosterone for motivation and feeling more in non kid friendly adult activit, you know what i mean. silicone bags against microplastic concerns, uber eats boxes, etc for carrying stuff. parking can be made easier if its hard to find parking not too far from where your going for life in general: it seems people FEEL what cant simply be simulated and is most important in life is: family(improving genetic quality of society, etc) then fucking(sekz) because "phermones" at least in healthy opposite gender, no birth control pill, slowly transitioned into natural fat/meat no carb diet, etc. after those 2 is , finding, food, then fragrances., by "finding, i mean regularly dedicating some tome to existential exploration. its in this order of importance because genes that spread tend to rather help spreading than not. less important parts are less satisfying without the more important ones, sorta of like giving a starving dying person vegetables instead of eggs n meat, expecting itll feel just as good vs having that junk food after hes healthy. be against anti appreciation desentization as happens from overdose.

[@phantomlimb5649]

Not driving your car to save the miles for the next owner is like not sleeping with your wife or girlfriend because you're saving her for the next guy. Enjoy your car and drive it. You didn't buy it for an investment.

[@cd.knuckles]

this is the issue with financing a car above your possibilities/needs. You realize that if something happens and you need to sell it or wtv you'll be short and end up paying to get rid of it. Having money to run and maintain a car is more important that having the money to own it

[@malikcutchin]

​@@cd.knuckles I'm going to be honest if you are really worried about everything going wrong. Then you should not get it. Even brand new. Because I see this all over everyday vehicles but brand new or newer. Because they're trying to impress or listen to certain others, or do it because someone else is doing it. It's like a cycle of following the crowd instead of self.

[@erikn.9180]

thats generally my thought on buying something expensive, if you buy something expensive and cant enjoy it getting used because its getting worn down over time, what joy do you have out of it.

[@conitsha6793]

I can’t sell my wife for the new wife when I’m done with her tho.

[@domzbu]

It’s not just the depreciation, it’s the mad running costs at the pump and servicing and repairs.

[@macbitz]

James May famously said that on public roads you can have more fun exploring the performance envelope of a Fiat Panda than a super car.

[@ShaanNotShawn]

I rented a 70 hp fiat panda in Italy and still got speeding tickets 😞. It was a fun car.

[@THESLlCK]

to drive a fast car, you need the balls to drive it, and that can't be purchased, Mr. May.

[@viveknagarajan3166]

As a kid, James May was never relatable. Today, his words can never be truer! When he said “desiging a car for thr Nürburgring ruins it!”

[@davidcoveney]

@@THESLlCK If you've got really big balls, by a Superkart and go faster around any circuit than all but the most extreme supercars - the lap record is 1:35.42 whilst the fastest GT3 racer is 1:33.8 - which is bonkers. And it'll cost you no more than £20k to get started. Honestly, getting fast on a racing circuit is the best thing you can do to get it all out of your system. You start to realise just how dangerous a car - even a relatively slow one - can be, because you see the energy going out of them when they have an accident even when they hit the barrier at just 60mph. Now you might think I'm a sad, boring office fella but in the garage is a Lotus Elise S1 prepped for the circuit, a racing kart (for my son, mostly), I used to ride motorbikes, and I honestly have more fun on the road using our Honda e or even in our Volvo V70 D5. Neither of those are particular fast, but for public road use they're fast enough. Now grow up a little and stop trying to be all macho - it makes you look insecure. And slow.

[@Turtleman280]

Dude some of those fiats feel like driving go karts they have like a turbocharger and everything

[@usm1le]

cheap cars make you so much happier. literally no stress, if it crashes or breaks its not a huge deal. lowers every day stress so much

[@noorabbas706]

ur absolutely right.

[@primafacie6442]

After spending too much money on cars in a lifetime it’s best to think of cars like footwear…….you actually need lots of different types of shoes for different functions, but they all get sweaty, pissed on and scuffed up (even your dress shoes). Most people only have enough money for one or two cars, so best have a pair of old comfortable and capable boots, and maybe a set of running spikes, or open toes sandals (I hope you get the analogy). What ever you have, just don’t pay too much or obsess about its perfect material condition, as this will detract away from the pleasure of use and ownership.

[@michaela6147]

What a bunch of nonsense

[@rjfiestast2627]

Exactly, went back to a fiesta st after owning a new Bullitt for a few years. Couldn’t be happier now!

[@mjcapo1]

I'm pretty sure people who buy 80k car don't care how much it costs to maintain, at least overwhelming majority of owners dont lol

[@JayEmmOnCars]

You need to try an old 911, slower than your M2, much more engaging - and smaller. It'll make the love for them much clearer

[@ajoellew]

Agreed. 300bhp in something smallish and light is a hoot

[@kipp4805]

Haha what’s up jayemm. From a middle class perspective I’d suggest a Miata. Not a collector item. Not skyrocketing in value any time soon. Extremely fun and engaging. Not the end of the world if you crash or it gets dinged up. Low stress, high fun. Personally id be too concerned trying to preserve an old 911. Maybe a used cayman if I was a rich man lol.

[@tigermedz]

​@kipp4805 yeah but for winters I'd want something that isn't rwd. How about a manual dodge dart 1.8 turbo.

[@armandtdupreez1026]

Oh my word, Jay in the wild. Hi Jay! 😁

[@johnson0764]

@@JayEmmOnCars prefer a Subaru to be honest, much better daily than a Porsche

[@sibogama]

Personally I've found after 33 yrs of existence that the best thing we can do for ourselves is to take proper stock of where one's life is at, where you want to go, and your plan of getting there. Purchases like these can't be on a whimp or you'll ruin yourself. We all have a poison that we need to feed in terms of unreasonable things we spend money on. For some it's expensive watches, for some it's designer clothes, for some it's luxury travel, for some it's sports cars. If you bust your ass working hard, I believe you're entitled to enjoy yourself, otherwise what's the point of it all. Just have a plan and make sure your future self is taken care of

[@jedialpha2]

38 y.o. here, totally agree. I quit smoking a while ago and bought myself a fun car with the money I would have been wasting on cigarettes. The only difference is I'll have a fun car at the end of 2 years instead of lung cancer. Everything's carefully budgeted and I have no regrets.

[@adamx1748]

I get what your saying and it's a great mindset for only being 33. It will change when your 43 but your on a good path. Find something productive to focus on as when your 43 mental heath becomes an issue if your not in a good position.

[@DJBlakeyUk]

🎯

[@absb2401]

Well said

[@tiagoandre7464]

you are right boss

[@mackalack1019]

This honesty is refreshing from a car youtuber. Fancy cars are hard to enjoy unless you're really really well off! Cheap and cheerful is the way to go.

[@dbank6107]

There is an in-between. Works well for me.

[@brianschultz7320]

I just finished college and am looking to get an m2. It’s a small stretch for me but this is the best time to do it since I have no kids and minimal expenses.

[@mangolos]

@@brianschultz7320 you ain’t getting insured on that. save your money

[@ziggyfreud5357]

Got a 991.2 GT3 now at 66yo. Retirement prezzie. Drive it til I can’t then sell. I totally agree with your comment 👍

[@Sideways_Singh]

Did we watch the same video lmfao? That was not the mssage it aint about money its about fun, @10:30 and on pay attention

[@paulmaliakkal6735]

It is very difficult for a man to admit his mistakes, especially with such an expensive car. Thanks a lot Mick for the honesty. Love & respect.

[@MrChadder007]

It’s more fun to go fast in a slow car than to go slow in a fast car.

[@TatersFPV]

What about going fast in a fast car? That's pretty fun

[@Lycanthroperage95]

@@TatersFPVit’s also rarely possible without having your head constantly over your shoulder and having to deal with pricks on the road trying to prove themselves at every turn

[@neiltitmus9744]

I cant afford one i could probably buy one though

[@neiltitmus9744]

I cant buy 3 of them so I can't afford one

[@davidcoveney]

@@TatersFPV Not on public roads. It's dangerous. Or you're not actually going that fast and just doing the odd squirt.

[@Ndw1995]

I sense you still have a scarcity mindset, and since you’re an immigrant, I can’t fault you for that. Im not an immigrant, but I wasn’t born well off, and now I find myself in your shoes. I can have cool cars like this, but at almost 30 years old, I know it’s not smart. However, I’ve had the pleasure recently of talking to a few people who are all over the age of 90. Not a single one of them wishes they had saved more money. Instead, they wish they used what little they had to squeeze as much enjoyment out of life as possible. They’re at the end of their lives, and they’re realizing they’ll never get that time back. Any chance they had to enjoy life to the fullest is gone forever. They begged me not to make the same mistake. Live life brother, we only get one

[@MickDrivesCars]

Love this comment, ''scarcity mindset'' is such a good phrase and really encapsulates what I'm trying to say. It's not like the car caused me any hardship, I've had it almost a year and did enjoy it... It's just that I want to use my ''fun car'' a LOT and it feels like I'm restraining myself because of that scarcity mindset!

[@zedmund9123]

​@@MickDrivesCars That's when the "consumer" mindset comes in to encourage making more just to spend more, YOLO

[@Ndw1995]

@@zedmund9123when you’re on your deathbed, you don’t want to be the richest in the hospital, you want to be the happiest

[@lamcho00]

This is true, but if the car causes you to worry, you're not living to the fullest. It actually is making your life worse. I'd say get your priorities straight, and only when you have the important thing straight, then feel free spend on a nice car. And keep in mind the upkeep of such a car.

[@lobobaltazar1322]

@@MickDrivesCars I feel your video its same for me. Everything you said I agree and have thought of it pretty much the same way. I got 3 series old car e90 which is for me "new" and I am avoiding to drive it in some places were I could scratch it, its wide, not really visible from the seating position in some cases etc. Tho we have wider roads, even cross country fast roads, are fun but little wider so you dont have to worry that much, but then around city its crowded and car feels just to big. My smaller car that I got to use from work, is newer smaller but fuel is paid for and all expenses and I can drive it alot... so I end up using that one more, but still Bmw is much more fun for me when I take it out for a drive :)

[@randomthat0ne]

72,000 pound car? goddamn that's heavy

[@cburg]

american spotted ⚠

[@fastg6e]

Not as heavy as the new M5

[@Jordannn_nope]

About the same as a standard American person

[@C-sé.speakin]

all the cultureless euros getting mad for no reason

[@eli2697]

70k for a birds car

[@GeeJacoob]

That same thing happend to me when I first acquired my "dream car". It's not JUST depreciation, running costs, and not having enough money. If you ever experienced buying a "dream car" (i.e. something that you envisioned for years of having and thought extensively of using it), it CAN mess with your head once you have it. Because you put that car on such a high pedestal that when you actually had the opportunity to acquire it (understand that it could have been a financially well-thought-out choice), you can become afraid of ruining it. That is what it is called "fear of spoiling." That would be the same as being so afraid to ruin a relationship with the partner you always dream of, that you end up being overly jealous, instead of appreciating what you have, probably resulting in you losing your soulmate.

[@a.bikerko6749]

Much respect. Finally someone who spoke about this. I feel like most people have cars just for others and not for themselves.. just so others can be impressed with it.. Your car should be something YOU like and something that brings YOU joy. Stop buying cars just so you can say "oh yeah I own that car, I have that much horsepower" and so on.. Go drive your damn car and enjoy yourself.

[@TheRealTanSeeker]

100%! I test drove an mx5 just for a time kill and immediately just started laughing in disbelief. Never drove anything like it. Thought about it every day for 3 weeks before going back and buying it. Everyone else has 4x4 or whatever but I'm so happy and don't care what anyone thinks.

[@PurXion_legendary_777]

Tbh car speed and performance mattered very little to me. Almost every car I see, slow or crappy or whatever, I just imagine trying to set a fast time with it on a track 😂

[@tristandrew5903]

That's what capitalism is. Working to hard to buy big houses and nice cars you don't need to impress people you don't like. Cars don't make happiness but I'd rather cry in a Porsche than a Prius

[@kaezeprys6520]

So true I just got a 2024 Sentra sv in red! Liked it so much despite the judgement. Convinced nsany has so much potential and as the economy realizes they are a bunch of brokies due to the system….. and the merger kicks in. Pathetic consumers will give nissians Sv line up a second look in 2025 because I got a steal deal for an amazing commuter car. Def gunna upgrade to premium when I refinance. The SR is overpaying. You only need the electric seats /moomroof. Tires look better on the sv although they are smaller . More personal opinions. Previously I only drove bmw :) and in emergencies a v6 ford explorer. Now it’s Nissan /ford . I’ll get back to bmw later on :)

[@thecommentator6694]

Absolutely agree, I drive a Mk8 Fiesta ST so it's something fun, relatively quick and pretty cheap in the world of fun modern cars and I love it. I remember the day before I was going to pick it up some random guy was telling me that I should buy an Audi S3 instead - no reason given, but clearly because to him the brand of the car mattered more than anything else. I drive a Ford and I am absolutely fine with that, especially when it comes to servicing/runnning costs! I always make sure I do what I want and not spend my life trying to impress people that don't care anyway.

[@LOLVideosMT]

True, on my 75hp rustbox i can keep my foot down and not brake the speed limit in 5 seconds

[@MickDrivesCars]

Slow car fast is so much better

[@michakrzyzanowski8554]

@@MickDrivesCars Driving in a 110 HP shitbox will give you 10 times the adrenaline. Try something like an old 2.4 liter honda accord.

[@Alexandru-T.]

@@MickDrivesCars I disagree, having driven a 75 HP car for 6-7 years, it was frustrating and agonising how slow it was when you wanted more performance out of it. If you have multiple cars and have the knowledge that you can jump into a much more powerful car when you want, then sure, it's good for a laugh and you can appreaciate it better. But as an only car, no.

[@toddstevens8506]

​@@Alexandru-T.You're taking the point made here a bit too literally. A slow car doesn't necessarily mean 75hp, but 450 or so is too much for the public road, a GTI or similar is plenty fast.

[@patrolmostwanted]

@@Alexandru-T. I'd say around 200 hp is the sweetspot. In new cars, even 150 is quite zippy and definitely enough in most cases. I agree however, that a car that is too slow is not fun, might even be dangerous e.g. while overtaking.

[@chillphung8327]

The high cost per mile dissuading you from going on a drive is real. I have a number of driving buddies who went from being down to cruise all the time, to only going out for shorter trips in perfect weather once they got a more expensive car. "Too hot for the turbo" or "too wet for RWD and Cup 2s" or "Too far for the sticky track tires" are real problems!

[@infloence]

I just realized that i'm that driving buddy. Thanks for the heads up mate

[@HermanWillems]

That's where electric cars come in. I can ENJOY the POWER which cost LITTLE TO NO MONEY. Im just driving on my own solar energy. Beat that.

[@CleverCheetah]

Yeah thats why i stuck to inline 4 turbos they are still quick, fun, and efficient.

[@jameslavender5720]

​@@HermanWillemsyou can also enjoy real depreciation.

[@ThomasHudson-n6v]

Shouldn't be driving an expensive car if you can't afford to fill it up. Simple

[@pyangurloo]

Hi mick. I'm a 41year-old female GP here in the Philippines and let me begin with, I can NEVER in a million years buy a BWM M2. You and your videos have a very big impact on me and my outlook on driving because you see, I am a driving enthusiast. I've been driving for 25years now. I know that there's a double-standard when it comes to women and driving. (Women don't know how to drive, or women drive sooooo painfully slow) and i have always set my heart to disprove that stereotype. I want men to see that they have been passed by a female driver. I do not and have never owned any fast cars. I previously had a manual toyota vios. And then an automatic ford escape (which is fairly fast, but not as satisfying to drive because it's an automatic car) Now, I'm driving a manual suzuki spresso (49hp, 89torque, 165wheels) to go from one hospital to another. I have always dreamed of owning something fast. But after watching this life - changing video (it truly is. I'm not just blowing up smoke or what), I realized I'm perfectly content with my car. Because, yes, I get it, it really IS the human factor. We have small roads here in the Philippines. And most cars are SUVs, or ford raptors or toyota conquests and what-not. But 99% of the time, I can outrun these beasts with my barely-50hp car. And after watching this video, you made me appreciate my car, AND my skills, a little bit more. I hope you get to read my comment. My husband and I are such big fans of your channel, and we really enjoy them, and we believe in your brand. Please don't stop making your videos. With much love from the Philippines.

[@mateusznikiciuk5310]

Yea dont worry its just a car

[@pyangurloo]

​@@mateusznikiciuk5310True. The human factor, I think, determines one's enjoyment :)

[@SanjinSaletnig]

Mike I can honestly tell you that it's not the car that sells the video, it's you. It's your combination of honesty, experience and passion that makes the videos interesting, not the car that you're driving. Really glad you made this video, it's helpful to shatter a costly illusion. All the best mate!

[@MickDrivesCars]

I appreciate that!

[@SKeWDReW]

@@MickDrivesCars Seconded. Really made me reconsider some of my thoughts about a next car.

[@prathabs1286]

Very true, i end up listening to Mike and looking at the road in most of the videos, i re watch them to enjoy the interiors and the way he operates the car☺️

[@luigihatesyou4217]

Got my dream car, two months ago, thought life would be different, but it’s still the same

[@Mrkingwoozy]

I feel this i just bought my dream car and i want to sell it already and just put the money back in the bank and i said would do this mod and that mod to it and to be honest man I dont even want to mod it i want to keep it stock now

[@ROVA00]

What did you think liked would be like? Did you buy it because you like driving or because it would make you look good? Not dissing. Just curious. I bought a “dream car” (civic type R) and I can’t get enough of it. I know if I had bought it for social purposes I would be disappointed because in the end nobody cares what you drive, especially women.

[@luigihatesyou4217]

@ I always wanted this car and to be honest I bought it because thought i would look rich in it (ik it sounds silly) and also was my dream car for the last couple of years (Bmw M5 com), I guess things don’t always turn around how you expect them to

[@ROVA00]

@ it’s silly but I understand it and I can relate. Reality doesn’t set in until after you get the car and realize that a) most people don’t care and b) looking rich only only seems create resentment with friends and a family who are less fortunate. My best memories with the car community were from back when we all had 10+ year old cars and helped each other keep them running lol Now most of my friends got married and had kids and can no longer afford to own a sports car so I’m sort of alone in my enjoyment.

[@milkofthepuppy]

I love my car and I love cars my friends that did this together with me back with B series was the jam and the K was on the way man those were the days. I retired early due to having kids my friends still drove hard for years. Fast forward 10 years later I got a TTRS MK3 on E and all my friends now drive vans and trucks when we hang out 😐!! I totally didn’t see that coming now it’s just me but honestly it was always just me and it’s something I love. I know it cost money but you only live once and I’m a cloud engineer my kids get all my time and money my car is the only thing I have that’s me everything else is family. So for that by itself I’ll enjoy it until I don’t and once it’s gone that’s it on to the RV game or something else. Have fun folks you never know when things will change so do you and buy things practically as best you can but every now and then you will purchase something crazy just have a plan.

[@sammilburn445]

someone saying an m2 is too big massively highlights one of the issues of suvs and big cars becoming the new ford focus. if a m2 is too big, they are way too big, yet they are just becoming more and more common

[@veselingramatikov]

m2 becomes big because uses m3/4 chassis .... I like the old one more actually.

[@sammilburn445]

@@veselingramatikov I like the old one but own a f22 220d and just don’t feel like it’d be enough of a change for me in the future to get a f87

[@rich7447]

The M2 is not a big car.

[@sammilburn445]

@@rich7447 it’s not a big car, but it is a wide car. And SUV’s are also wide cars

[@rich7447]

@@sammilburn445 BMW specs the M2 at 74.3 inches wide which is the same as my wife's Lexus GX460 mid-size SUV. That may be considered wide in the UK, but it is on the narrower end of normal here in North America. My daily driver is 22 inches wider than the BMW m2.

[@LyricPluto]

Bro making us poor people feel good with our current cars 🙏

[@pierremono7673]

I will transmit some wisdom I've seen elsewhere online. It talks about Porsches but you could replace the brand name with any other enthusiast car and it still works: "Happiness is buying unloved old Porsches and driving them hard". I have got a 944 Turbo, it's like a MX5 on steroids. I love it every time I drive and I don't worry about depreciation. The sweet spot for enthusiast car ownership is under 400hp, under 1500 kilos and hydraulic steering. Usually that's a 90s / 2000s car. Everything else is modern consumerism and full of shit we don't need.

[@ArjunaKunti]

Under 1500 kilos is definitely the requirement for a fun car!

[@peterlustig4875]

But Drohung sich an old Porsche could make you unbelievable poor if there is any repairmen

[@namegoeshere2903]

200hp or less, under 3000lbs is plenty.

[@billyfake69]

Lets say 300-350hp in a 1300-1400kg car is a rly fun car for daily driving. Also depends what CC and if turbo or NA but lets say 2000cc+ and no huge turbolag.

[@CAR_NL]

I got 4 cars, which one of them is a Alfa Romeo 4c. Its the perfect car. Low taxes, low weight, low maintenance costs, low fuel consumption, high fun, no depreciation (more the opposite) and a lot of joy and fun. The other one is a Jaguar XKR convertible from 2008. Bought it this year. Also wont depreciate any more, beautiful v8 analogue driving experience, tax advantage in my country because of the Youngtimer status, etc. I also have a car that is opposite: an Alfa Romeo Stelvio Q. That car just costs a shitload of money. But to be honest, I can pay it. The amount of fun it gives, despite being pratical and bringing me everywhere is incredible. I just could not buy the 4 cylinder, despite how much cheaper it is to run. I just NEED the 6 cylinder. The sound and feeling is unparalleled. But yes, you should have the budget, otherwise you will get a lot of headache. My 4th car is a hybrid Fiat. Thats the "cheap" town car. That car shaves me a lot of costs of the other cars, especially on the short trips. Is also the car you care about the less... just park it anywhere, etc. The combination of this cars is absolutely a joy.

[@BillionDollaGil]

You put into words something I noticed myself many years ago. I used to drive my slow cars fast(and loved it), and now I drive my fast car slow. I thought it was a maturity/age thing, but you’re absolutely right about how my fast car doesn’t allow me to reach its maximum output without breaking laws or endangering myself or others around me.

[@Markoff2026]

Track

[@jtjoemamma]

it's partly an age/maturity thing

[@Syncopia]

Manufacturers figured this out long ago, there's not much you can do over 300hp on the road.

[@bc1sjw]

I have an F87 M2, its the fastest car I've ever had. Its about 80bhp less than the one in this video but I just feel you can't put your foot down and enjoy it. 0-60 in 4.3 seconds is pretty quick; its a few seconds then your straight into license losing territory. So any blasts in it are reserved for country roads quite far from me. Still absolutely love the car. But - and people might laugh at this: I had more fun red lining my previous 2 cars. 200bhp Civic Type R and Corsa VXR. You could experience and enjoy the slower acceleration more without going 0-80 in the blink of an eye.

[@str8xrippin]

​@@bc1sjw true, I don't have an M2 but I own a MK3 facelift focus ST tuned to 330hp and I thought this would be my dream but damn it's really hitting me hard. It's not only the gas mileage but the stress for the huge tires, engine maintenance due to performance upgrades and stress of the public and my security. I never felt this way when driving my 2006 VW golf/rabbit. It was an absolute dream. I would beat on that car on my drive to work and wouldn't even notice a difference in mpg. The monthly fuel spend in my old car is what I spend in 2 weeks in my fast car. And that's not even driving it everyday because I'm thinking about the fuel or tires or road conditions. The truth is owning a fast car is an absolute nightmare. People should know the truth.

[@mooferoo]

The solution is to have just a decently nippy (but not special) car, and use the money you were using for upkeep before on paying for track time. I'm an incredibly safe, conscientious, and pretty slow driver on public roads, and enjoy thrashing a Golf GTI around a track on the occasional track day. It's amazing.

[@chimpanzeeenjoyer4667]

It’s so freeing

[@CleverCheetah]

GTI is perfect for the roads. Much faster than everyday cars but not too fast where it kills enjoyment on public roads

[@jayjake]

i was looking for someone to mention the golf gti

[@JamesG-yi9li]

2.0L Giulia 👌

[@nallanw4329]

which gen GTI?

[@tomhutcheson9134]

he's absolutely right. I grew up on Top Gear and EVERY. SINGLE. episode that I remember the most, are all the $1,000 car challenges. Buying Old Alpha's and seeing if they can make it to a concourse competition, etc, etc. The episodes I don't remember at all are the ones where they just review some new Ferrari or Aston Martin for 40 minutes. Second. The realest answer here is that we need Miata type cars from BMW, Audi and Mercedes again. small, light, manual cars with 250ish HP, Little to no tech, and no hybrids. That way cars can be Toys again. where you can have your fun drivers car for cheap and a comfy estate car in the drive at the same time.

[@intelmacs]

From the start to 08:00 the thought going through my mind was….’this bloke needs to get an MX5’

[@SuperMegaWoofer3000]

I have a g87 and this thought has been going through my head for months 😅

[@nicwolf1370]

Absolutely. I have an S3 (obvs not an M2) and I'd still rather be crawling under my old MX-5 getting coated in transmission fluid and swearing.

[@a64738]

MX5 is a fun car to drive even with only the 150hp engine MX5 I did test drive. But sadly it is not good for a daily driver with its no room for baggage. I plan on baying a older Porsche Cayman myself.

[@khimaros]

@@a64738 yeah you nailed it. I had a mk1 V Spec for 14 yrs, did all the work myself, had tons of fun, but i cant do the family shop in it. Now own a 330D which is a phenomenal car but it doesnt have the same fun factor for sure.

[@OTH89]

You can 100% do a family shop in a NA MX5. Just make sure not to bring a passenger ​@@khimaros😅

[@mladennaydenov7932]

"The items that you own end up owning you." - I completely agree with everything you said and I have already experienced it. I just want to add a few words as I feel like you didn't stress this enough - the worries that you have after you purchase the car might overwhelm you. You have to think about robbers, about your personal safety, about hateful people who might damage your car simply because, about little or bigger accidents (i.e. where and how to park the car), and therefore - about additional insurance, additional expenses. At one point you are living your life well and might have little to no worries, and next moment you spend 70K and now you have to stress about so many things that you didn't really have to before. Your time and your psychological balance (and calmness) is much more valuable than any car. I am not the type of person who says "reinvest anything". actually I believe we need to live as much as we can while young, but there is always a balance and I am sure that there are so many cheaper cars that will be even more fun while they do not make you nervous every time you open the garage door or go for a little drive. (BTW, I have been looking at Miatas for quite some time now, while also not excluding the option for an M140 to modify, or a second hand previous gen M2 Comp, and you really helped me clear my head with your video.) Great video, keep up the good work! This is the first piece of content that I see from this channel and I am really impressed.

[@DroptekOfficial]

If it costs you your peace it costs too much

[@Mrkingwoozy]

This*

[@brycedery9596]

Even your needs have needs.

[@Helifax19]

You don't buy an M car an thing about "how it holds its value", you buy it to have it for as long as the "life of the car" and have fond memories driving it. A car is not an investment. You don't see your shoes as investment, no ? :) Solid video and you describe everything so nicely and thoughtful!

[@ventilate4267]

sneakerheads do 🤣

[@jbmectronic4314]

I agree, but I have mine as a summercar, it makes it that much more special to drive it.. I have never had "special" cars as a daily, its just becomes a daily 😅

[@Cribb1221]

This is just perfect, the way you state everything that noone talks about - its always the response ”well then you cant afford it if you struggle with this or that”. Thank you for your honesty, it is refershing to see and hear these thoughts, despite having the dream car that many desires. Being authentic is the real deal, doesnt matter if its about humans, cars or anything in between. Less indeed more in certain situations. Thank you!

[@ralnless]

This was a eye opener, I have a corolla at 18, and i think I will stick with it for as long as possible. Thanks Mick

[@ytbusernamelol]

you should!

[@Poodz_]

Less stress owning a decent old runner versus owning a dream car

[@MickDrivesCars]

100% just enjoy it

[@RenfromBespin]

@@Poodz_ how? why?

[@cgkumar6780]

Park anywhere,go anywhere​@@RenfromBespin

[@Keepingitreal21359]

I daily drive ND2 mx5 and i cannot simply get bored of this car, even a boring commute can turn into a ride with a smile. Weight is where the fun at. 0-100ing heavy german couch in a straight line will get boring at some point. The mazda is also pretty cheap to maintain and refuel

[@ChrisSoignier]

I've owned many fast cars, but my ND2 is hard to beat for pure fun factor in the real world. It's a keeper!

[@balazspinter4832]

Same I have an ND2. Also people need to realise these new MX5 are not slow. Hagerty did some drag race against s2 audi.and BMW 500E W124 and ND2 was ahead of them almost the whole 1/4 miles.

[@Ermy1996]

I daily a MX5 rf nd2 as well. His points still stand. I love the car and i love driving it, 20000 km this year, but is still financially much more expensive than a common used car. In my opinion is money well spent but it is still a lot

[@ytbusernamelol]

lovely car for sure

[@H8erzGonnaH8]

​@Ermy1996 A new nd2 was about half the price of an m2. It's nowhere near like buying and maintaining a car that costs twice as much with more than twice as much power. I have an nd3 but aside from being 2 seater convertibles, these cars are pretty practical and fairly cheap.

[@abobakadabra]

Man, your wisdom is really strong. Not many people, only ones who really enjoy and understand driving will understand what you said in this video. Love and respect from Russia

[@MickDrivesCars]

Thank you kindly!

[@Tj-mb7ch]

It's a bell curve. over time. In 20 years he'll feel the opposite. Both you guys are probably in your 30s. At 50 you will go back to enjoying fast cars.

[@abobakadabra]

@@Tj-mb7ch I understand what you are saying, but I’m 19 and a week ago I totally crashed BMW X5M 😂

[@carlohenley4044]

I spent my adult life always wanting a faster, more capable car than whatever I had. I'd be happy with something for a year or two, and get beaten a few times at a stoplight race or through some corners, and move up to something faster. I ended up with a tuned 400hp AWD Golf that was so stupidly quick and loud that it was completely unenjoyable on the street. I was always scanning my surroundings for police and having to brake hard after 3 seconds of full throttle. Sure, knowing I could beat anyone off the line was fun for a bit, but then along comes a Tesla or two to put me in my place. There's always someone quicker than you. I've now replaced the golf with an old Mini Cooper S with a nice lowered suspension and a burbly exhaust and wooshy intake and it is an absolute riot to drive at any speed. I feel like I'm in a rally just driving to get groceries. Steering is excellent, it corners like a go-kart, and it makes lots of fun noises. And it's plenty fast now that I no longer care about getting beaten at stoplights. It's a cliche because it's true - it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. For me, it was a matter of putting ego aside and not needing to be "king of the road" and I'm much happier now!

[@chilledburrito]

I always used to hate mini’s because they weren’t fast, until I realised speed isn’t the be all and end all. Minis being exactly that, mini, is actually so sick, the practicality is awesome. And they’re not even exactly slow cars.

[@Diamus101]

" I was always scanning my surroundings for police and having to brake hard after 3 seconds of full throttle." Yep. What a dream foot flat in second then into third coming off when in fourth. I don't think I can do that let alone third then fourth foot flat for both. Of course if no one were looking. Mk4 Focus ST M330. People don't realise in the main its seconds of fun and then just slow or cruising at tickover and a bit.

[@activizor716]

09:17 “as promised” bro you didnt go sidways at all😂

[@giorgiom.3833]

UK problems. Narrow streets and lanes, low speed limits and high insurance costs. This thing is meant to be driven on German Autobahns without speed limit and German country roads, which are wider.

[@redsaints]

Having lived in Germany for 6 years and driven the autobahn a lot, especially for work who pay the petrol, I know what speeds I do when I pay and when work pays. 200+kph will drain the tank pretty quickly. Like he said, if you are worried about that cost then this car is not for you.

[@giorgiom.3833]

@redsaints Then you need a fast Diesel. 230 kph is only 13 litres on 100 km with mine. Going as fast as possible still averages around 7-9 litres for me, because of slower cars and recurring speed limits. I usually drive an average speed of 160 and get 7 litres on 100 km. Going fast can be pretty reasonable.

[@car_guy]

Which diesel do you run​@@giorgiom.3833

[@johnson0764]

You must live in London then. Plenty of quality roads away from Peugeot Muppets

[@sparky6996]

Brought my german spec gti performace to the uk twice. Naaaaaa 3rd world roads now. Can't get up to speed don't enjoy it and the best yet bent one alloy and cracked a spring.....but its waaay cheaper to tax and insure than anything in the uk

[@stevesas632]

I recently had a 1M for years, loved the looks & performance, but i generally believe you can have more fun in a 200bhp car, where you actually to get to see the revs rise in each gear, rather than foot down & run out of road before you actually have fun.

[@maxwellsmart8730]

My 2020 supercharged Mustang GT with 605 WHP makes me happy, happy, joy, joy every time I drive it. Manual with the PP1.

[@Ali01007]

You’ve touched a topic no petrol head is talking about.

[@Toyota4Life]

@@Ali01007 exactly ! KZbinrs has fooled us into thinking fast cars is what we need

[@ChuckYuuu]

Driving enthusiasts have known this for years, the people just into cars for status and clout are just discovering this

[@autodigitvlogs]

Because its not something to moan about. Its a fact of life. Money pits. But you can enjoy life or moan about it

[@CenturionTheodore]

@@ChuckYuuuyea exactly a lot of the comments on this video people seem to have had some revelation of some kind. Like OP said something groundbreaking. Seems that many aren’t confident within themselves or where they are at in life. I only clicked on the video because I thought it was going to be funny and not some coaching moment.

[@eurly93]

You must be new to cars. 99% of car reviewers have been saying slow car fast > fast car slow for about 25 years at this point... The only people who disagree are drag/street racers and people who buy sports cars for the status not bc they like to drive

[@bodivanbodivan3668]

I used to detail for a retired Silicon Valley millionaire who tracked his cars often, and he told me this. “It's better to drive a slow car fast than drive a fast car slow. It stuck with me to this day. Most cars are ridiculous to drive on the road, and the manufacturers know this, which is why they limit the production of these vehicles. There's no reason a person who doesn't even go to the track should drive around with 600-plus horsepower under their hoods. It just breeds an environment for chaos.

[@imautubertoo]

i agree, its just that these performance cars LOOK so good lol, i wish more companies had modest priced good looking alternatives similar to the subaru brz or toyota 86 (but with 50-75 more hp)

[@kenim]

Light 300hp is still the best combo for a sportscar on the road.

[@s0nar]

I work at a german car dealership in the U.S. and its taught me nothing other than to never buy or even drive my dream car. I hop in this absolutely insane AMGs with the 4.0 TT and im brutally dissatisfied to be honest. Put them in race mode and everything, and theyre such good cars that theyre simply underwhelming. I've come to realize that if you want an incredible, life changing experience with a car, buy an older one. early 2000's or older. Obviously there's exceptions with specific drivers cars, but those are expensive!! I went from dreaming about mclarens, 204 c63s, and m3/4s to wanting a c6/c7 corvette, or an fd rx7. they make the most sense in terms of financial balance, and having plenty of car. reality of it is, when you are driving these insane new cars, youre just another input, and the car is doing so much of the driving that you dont even recognize.

[@Nik-qh4mj]

I have C7 Z06 since 2020, to enjoy the car on public road you need to get a stupid high speed, tough it looks, sounds and ride nice. I am also considering going to mx5, because this the only one that will keep me out of trouble and with license.

[@Whiterqbbit]

Rx7 and financial balance don't belong in the same sentence.... lol

[@noisetin]

@@Whiterqbbit came here to write the same, hahahaha

[@chonkbois]

Can confirm. Owned a AMG GT63 S from 2019 for 2 years and it was fun, no doubt. But the car literally does it all for you. Going 250 on the Autobahn with your pinky only? No problem. And that's a problem.

[@Iridiumcosmos]

Sports cars and financial balance don't belong in the same sentence. Regardless if it's American, Japanese, or European. Cars like the C7, RX7, Zs, C63s will run your pockets when something breaks. That's just the nature of any performance oriented vehicle.

[@bilal.hossain]

Also the fact that if you're driving around a city like london, there's speed restrictions everywhere, and if you put your foot down you immediately end up either in traffic or at a red light, just kinda hard to enjoy lol. This was a really well done video bro! Keep it up!

[@Ldn12345]

Agreed if you are in London or even the suburbs it’s a waste of time and money. If I wanted to have a decent drive it would take me 10-15 mins just to get there… and you’d hit traffic on the way back.

[@avs6362]

For me hot hatches are the most fun! Light and zippy, good power to weight ratios!

[@George-nv1ri]

Yeah and usually not too bad to live with, Peugeot 207 GTI is the best car I ever had. 7 seconds 0 to 60, practical enough to live with, decent fuel economy and just a riot to take down a b road

[@Wolf_man_has_nards]

I love hot hatches but I hate FWD if they were RWD they would be the gift that motoring needed

[@alexeybalshoi2455]

@@George-nv1ri Truth, even after going to 2nd gear my gtis are too quick for the city speed limits. (200hp for mk5 & 220 for mk7, but the torque is unreal in the mk7) Perhaps in a rural/mountainous area you'd be easier to get away with it, lots of long straights in the country. Had a toyota celica with 140hp & it was always fun banging out gears, even better on fuel without a turbo. Unfortunately the 2001 gt had issues with piston rings so it would eat too much damn oil. Was my 1st manual. rip

[@cayneeasy8836]

You talking it! I love hot hatches since i drove an Opel Corsa D OPC. The Corsa made it clear to me that 200 hp is perfect-not too much, not too little. A small car is way better for me than a big car. You can park everywhere and you have lower costs for repairs, fuel and maintenance. However, the Corsa also made it clear to me that you have to pay attention to the reliability of cars in general. This car broke down at 180,000 km... For me personally, that is unacceptable. The guy who bought the rest of the car told me that’s normal for a Corsa OPC. I also looked for a cheap, reliable car that is turbocharged. The story ended with my little Japanese Mitsubishi Colt Ralliart (150 hp). I bought it for €5,000, but you can find the pre-facelift model in Germany for around €3,500. I also purchased an Airtec intercooler for €600, an oil/water temperature display for €100, and a software optimization to achieve 200 reliable hp for €300. It’s an absolutely fun sleeper car for €6,000 (pre facelift €4500) that can easily reach 300,000 km. Maybe it’s not the nicest, but if you put some love and a bit more money into it, you can have a fully customized car for yourself.

[@Diamus101]

I got the mk4 Focus ST with a mountune map. Superb car wouldn't change it, but unless on a deserted open road the fun comes from acceleration for a few seconds only and that's all you can do. Also the Focus is a wide car for the lanes. She is on the box 330PS and 515NM.

[@jib11]

I got one of my dream cars last year after saving for a while. Full exhaust, got tuned, the whole package. I swear like a month after having everything that I wanted for years, I was over it. The gas was a lot and I had to use premium. My insurance was high. And maintenance wasn’t cheap. I wasn’t pressed for money but it did make me put everything into perspective. It’s just a car. Fast forward 3 months, the exhaust caught fire while driving and totaled the car. I was sad at first but now that I look back, it was a blessing in disguise. Save your money fellas.. and ladies. I now drive a 2002 Honda accord and couldn’t be happier. Great video bro and a lot of wisdom here

[@Endeavour30]

Which car was it?

[@awexekglul7211]

There’s a few things I’d like to respond with. I understand that money is a sensitive subject and we all think about in in some shape or form, but buying an M car and thinking about fuel economy or depretiation just does not really go together in my opinion. It’s like buying a plane, and then complaining you have to spend time above the ground. Secondly, vast majority of people confuse joy with happiness. Happiness is a long-term state of well-being that arises from an incredible amount of factors - your financial situation, family, partner, love life, children, friends, hobbies, your past or view of the future; one should not expect a car to make someone truly happy unless a lot of other pillars of your psychological well-being are also in place. The word you should be looking for is that cars bring joy - a momentarily feeling of great pleasure. Implicitely, joy can lead to happiness, eventually, but should not be taken as the same thing. Regardless, thank you for sharing! Money comes and goes, once we go, we don’t come back. Enjoy your lives people and don’t look back🤍 Life is too short to waste a second.

[@justincassidy2009]

You hit the nail on the head. What’s worse is when you continue chasing the need for speed. This led me from a 300zx TT all the way up to a 1400hp GTR with several others along the way. The GTR was an absolute rocket ship and guess what, I NEVER wanted to drive it. It was loud, clunky, I was always terrified something was going to break, not to mention you literally couldn’t put the pedal to the floor on the road. It would do 60-130 in 3.7 seconds so literally in just seconds you are more than double the speed limit. I’ve since sold it and haven’t replaced it with anything. I seem to find more enjoyment driving around in my truck with the family on Sunday drives.

[@oc3144]

What an eye opener

[@lalaboiz]

Everyday i get off work when I leave the parking lot I launch it a bit and all the stress from work that day just melts away. To each his own.

[@senoow4215]

that is worth 1-2K/month??

[@hideopalescent]

Is that not putting accelerated wear on the car because it hasn't had the chance to warm up yet?

[@lalaboiz]

@@senoow4215 uhh i have a 2020, i'm paid off, no lease (rental) for me.

[@lalaboiz]

@@hideopalescent I'm in Hawaii, 1min30sec then the jb4 activates, is all i need.

[@Somedudeonyoutube123]

Good points. Although depreciation and mileage never stop me from driving my car daily. It's just a car and I don't care about resale. Making this purchase means it's for me to enjoy, I don't care about owner #2 haha. You're really right about the numbness to the speeds and how it's not as fun after a while. That's when you but a nice exhaust 😬

[@backtoreality15]

Agreed. If you can't enjoy a nice (expensive) car daily without worrying about mileage, maintenance, potential repairs & depreciation then it's not the car for you.

[@MickDrivesCars]

Agreed 100% and learned this the hard way

[@Bernievids]

You were too young for the car. I think a young person in an M car means either a spoilt kid or if then an older person gets it - it’s sad because of a younger person has it then the older person hasn’t really achieved much of a dopey kid can buy a new one.

[@CleverCheetah]

@@MickDrivesCars Yeah i never understood why people get rid of their cars so quick. Like in the weird middle ground like 50k miles. Theyre the first owners yet they have no intention of keeping it till it dies or becomes too much of a lemon. I plan on keeping my car stock and mint condition for as long as possible like those rare one owner corollas that are pristine even with high mileage.

[@Showmatic]

This is 1000% my mindset. We never think about depreciation on other large non-asset purchases we buy, why is it a consideration with cars? You pay for what you WANT. Not what will make you money. Though I've had my 2024 M4 Comp for about a year now and I've yet to experience speed numbness, it's still just as fun as it was when it was delivered. I'm sure I'll eventually hit that wall, but doesn't look like it will be anytime soon.

[@pepetehfrog1510]

Sounds like you need two cars. One fast and exciting car. One efficient and reliable daily driver.

[@Theurgicnick]

I’m 43 I’ve had new cars every 3 to 6 years depending on circumstances and car itself since my early 20’s, however I’ve learned anything material only makes you happy for a curtain amount of time. You get it and all is good for a year or so, after that your still searching for “that next thing” I now refuse to spend more than 35k on a car, if that means I’ll no longer be able to get in to new cars next time I’m In the market for a new car then so be it, I’m not prepared to keep raising my budget chasing that never ending “want” all cars are a depreciating asset and a financial risk and won’t make you happy, not really. Well only for a curtain amount of time. I’m a massive petrol head, have been all my life. I just won’t get involved in that never ending cycle of PCP and kicking a load of credit down the road for 3 to 5 years for a car I’ll never own.

[@SunGxdRa]

Smart man. Lifestyle creep is real when your money starts growing.

[@Cabriofahrer2]

Don't agree. My car is 21 years old and I am still enjoying it a lot almost every time I ride it. It's not the enjoyment of having the newest, most impressive car for others to be envious of, but the enjoyment of having a powerful convertible that serves flawlessly the good old way.

[@Unreal-n3b]

What is yours that you OWN then? Nothing hé? You borrow everthing remeber that brother

[@orbitaljunkie]

So I sold my modified NC MX5 and bought a F87 M2 Competition in 2020. Traded it in two years later. All of your criticisms are valid - the expense was nuts, I could barely use the power on normal roads, I was always worried that I'd scratch it or damage it in some way... the pre-planning was a real issue for me as well with mileage. Oh yeah, and the F87 had a awkwardly high seating position that I never got used to. I absolutely miss my MX5 lol

[@r6chronicle676]

I feel like if your buying a dream car you shouldnt be worried abiut the value because if it really was your dream car you wouldnt be thinking about resale value, you might worry milage just because of maintenance stuff but in all reality its not a dream car if your worried about the gas milage and how much value its loosing because thats the mindset of someone who is planing on replacing the car not someone who bought that car because it was exactly what they wanted

[@r6chronicle676]

I just recently bought a 2ss camaro and i love it but i bought it knowing its just a stepping stone for the car i think about everyday so thats the only reason im worried about the value but once i have the car i think about daily the only thing that is gonna keep me from enjoying it is the law not the milage or the value

[@fredmercury1314]

The point is that you're not meant to be able to buy your dream car, or your dream anything. They never live up to expectation and once you have it you see all the things that make it suck. I can afford my dream car, I can afford to run it, maintain it, everything. _What I can't afford is to park it where I live._ That doesn't mean it's not my dream car, it just means modern Britain sucks.

[@r6chronicle676]

@fredmercury1314 ive never heard anything so ridiculous. Dreams are meant to be achieved and if you think that they aren't meant to be achieved then they arent dreams they are wishes. Dreams are things you work towards and make happen regardless you dont make silly excuses to make your self feel better about not achieving them just yet. Wishes are things you hope for but dont push for they are things you want to be givin to you without working towards them

[@r6chronicle676]

@fredmercury1314 and you missed the point he was saying how a fast dream car wont make you happy and thats just not true you are talking about not being able to afford to own one two completely different things

[@V2_Dre]

@@r6chronicle676 yep. The only reason he feels this way besides the ease of illegal speeds is he’s not financially ready for that car

[@Noooowowowowow]

Bought my dream Shelby GT500 in cash, Sold it a year later because it didn't make me happy. When I brought that car home I was smiling ear to ear, Everytime I stepped on the gas and heard that supercharger whine I would smile, Even up to the point I sold it. That was not happiness though, It was brief bits of satisfaction. Do not get me wrong, I loved that car. I think for me, It was the journey it took to save the cash to buy it. Once I conquered that goal I felt lost, Or like I could ease off the grind. I started to get complacent in life, I noticed it happening so I sold the car. Now I've made a new goal, Pay my house off in full, Then try and attain a full spec 2013 GT500KR. I have myself a route that in theory should take me about 10-12 years of grinding to achieve. I'm 24, A lot of life left. It is too early for me to feel accomplished, all because I owned the car of my dreams.

[@SebSeb224]

Mick, just felt as though I have met a soulmate!! Thank you. Everyone needs to hear your message ahead of their future dreamed-for big purchase, just so they understand what is going to happen to them. They will come to the same conclusions. Hopefully they will have had some fun at the start and stayed alive to tell the tale. I'm in my 50s and have loved loved loved cars since forever. XR2, Clio Williams, 2nd hand Alpina B9, then crap cars for ferrying children and meeting the mortgage payments. Finally four years ago I was in the position to get a 2nd hand 997 gen 1 gt3. Amazing car. Took it to the nurburgring and had it for four years, including to the Nurburgirng (which I VERY much recommmend) and did 10 as-fast-as-i-could laps. The problem is that you come home, everywhere is 20 mph (not that I'd race in town anyway), and after the novelty of getting into it has worn off, exactly as you say - the enjoyment per £pound wears thin. It's fine if you're loaded - you can take it to the track numerous times or go abroad and hit the European passes. But if its an absolute dream purchase and a real stretch then watch out. There is nowhere you can really explore its performance except for fleetingly! In the end the heartaches of it getting scuffed by dpd delivery drivers/ the outrageous sums Official Porsche Centres want to charge you, the trackers, the insurance, the tyres I just had to get rid of it. I wanted to be able to "drive" it, and you just can't. Anyone whose got one really just ends up posing/pootling/enjoying the car at normal speeds. It just wasnt worth the cost - I wasn't getting enough out of it. I might as well have been driving something much more ordinary. So i got rid of it. Everyone thought i was mad - but I was the only one who understood my predicament. Taking it out for the odd thrash down the motorway - dont ask! - was just going to mean I eventually wasnt going to be allowed to drive at all!! So completely agree with you - it just took me 30 years longer to come to the same answer. I'll let you into a secret though. Go and test drive a second-hand Lotus Elise! That's what I got to replace it. Even more fun. You sit 6 inches off the ground - feel as though you're doing twice the speed you are, reliable toyota supercharged engine. Skinny tyres, AMAZING handling, much cheaper to run, insure, you can even take the roof off! Honestly, I have found motoring nirvana!! 2025 I'm heading back to the Nurburgring in it! and my son will bring his car..... a bmw! All the best, Seb (just subscribed) (Honestly guys and girls, not putting you off your dream and I enjoyed mine, but eventually ... the penny drops! In the meantime - keep safe, and everyone else around you safe while you're doing it.

[@MickDrivesCars]

You might enjoy my POV drive in a friend's Elise - it didn't get many views but I thought it was a great video! Agree 100% with everything you've said and really appreciate everyone that's been leaving these comments and letting me know I'm not alone!

[@my_name_is_jeph.2020]

best video in a while about cars

[@MickDrivesCars]

Really appreciate that, thank you

[@Snowy-666]

I have to say I agree with a lot of this. The car I look back on, that always made me smile, was my old Mk2 Focus ST. You could have as much fun as you liked thrashing it through the gears. It was quick but not hyper-hatch quick. My Motech edition M140i runs 436hp, a bucket of torque, and absolutely flies. The problem is that after a few seconds acceleration you are way north of the speed limit and have to back off again. The fun to be had is in enjoying the range of the car, not having one quick blip and being in license-losing territory. I reckon a nicely kept noughties or even nineties hot hatch, £5k tops to pick up, would be more smiles per mile than any of the current crop.

[@chanhyung88]

My E92 M3, an old car by today's standards, not fast by today's standards, makes me happy every time I drive it.

[@crazyman1979]

Honest video. I lusted after an rs6 for years, finally got one stage 2 720bhp. Scared to race anything similar because how fast are we actually gonna be going, gonna be scary speeds in no time. Money pit and I drive it like a granny 😊

[@michaelkelly3158]

Grats on the beautiful car. Continue driving it like a granny - as long as you're happy that's all that matters. I'm the same with my 240i - when I got it it was a kick but now I really have respect for it and if anything drive slower than I did with my previous 320d.

[@ak-jxrdy-7]

Take it to the track, man. Learn your limits (they'll come way before the car's, it's very capable, lmao). That doesn't mean go all out time attack and try to set a new overall best lap for that particular circuit, but push your car slightly beyond what you'd do on a public road. As you get more acclimated to the track, its nuances and the feeling of the car itself, you push it 1% further. You've got a stunning car with great work done to it, please enjoy it. I'm dreaming of owning one.

[@ak-jxrdy-7]

​@@michaelkelly3158 I respect what you're trying to say, but babying such a powerful car _could_ lead to less reliability. The car _should_ redline every now and then, go beyond the speed limit (on a track, safely), reach high temps and cool down, etc. The engine needs to do what it was made for in order to run optimally.

[@crazyman1979]

The big bills keep coming and you get nervous of breaking something all the time 😂. That said she is running as sweet as she ever has been, just had new plugs and APR coils, DRC has been serviced and recharged - so she’s overdue a spirited drive for sure 👌.

[@ak-jxrdy-7]

@@crazyman1979 I can imagine, lmao. Sounds awesome, enjoy it.

[@damianplisko84]

great video! Being a car enthusiast myself, my holy grail of car ownership has always been the rs6 avant. I finally mustered up the courage to buy a slightly used one a few months ago. It's a beautiful machine from all the angles, i always catch myself staring at it when i'm walking away from it. The car is insanely fast and the v8 makes some intoxicating sounds. With that being said, my insurance premium has doubled and i try not to cry every time i look down at the petrol gauge. The difference between an m2 and a car like an RS6 is that when i'm not in the mood to drive it like a maniac, it becomes a very comfortable, serene, spacious and practical form of transportation that i enjoy driving slowly as much i enjoy driving fast. This dual character of the RS6 is really the main reason that keeps me holding on to this car that much longer, but i could see how a very specific purpose built car like the M2 can lose its lustre if you're not using it in the right environment for the right reasons.

[@chiefmorso]

RS6 are unreal! Don’t see too many of them in the states. When I do see them I can’t look away. Congrats on your ride.

[@teddyispg]

Honestly if you can’t outright afford anything of this caliber, you should consider very carefully if the risk of owning something luxurious is worth it to you. Nothing more heartbreaking to see a guy buys his dream car or whatever just to flex, but can’t enjoy it because of maintenance cost.

[@nolleypolley7072]

Kinda what I’m going through

[@zwieback1988]

The question is not only whether you can afford but whether you will feel comfortable with the decision. This is different for everybody. I know people who could buy themselfes an M2 once per year without going under but would still feel like overspending..

[@zwieback1988]

@@nolleypolley7072what did you buy?

[@bradenwhite4356]

I find this to be very intuitive. Simply maximizing the useable power is the key, anything over is excessive and you won’t even be able to use it on the road. It’s more fun to make a slower car work than to keep a fast car in the stables.

[@msizisithole6748]

I've never loved a video more that speaks to my decisions like this one. This was so real that I feel like maybe the M2 isn't quite for me. I love it but at the same time it costs a lot and the cost to run is high. This was real and made sense to me as a product review. Thank you.

[@MickDrivesCars]

I'm glad I could be the Guinea pig for you all :)

[@jomo2483]

You finally hit petrolhead maturity. BMW's latest obsession with straight line speed killed my love for the brand. They're now no different from Audis. Which are fast, but have no soul. The best fun I had in a BMW was an E30 325i. I was just smiling and happy. Didn't buy it, because it was so crapped out. The worst fun I had in a BMW was in a 2010 turbo charged X5 shortly after. I remember just worrying how big the car was. I constantly found myself worried I may rear-end cars in traffic. The speed was exhilarating on country roads. And the 400nm was a real kick. But I didn't have as much fun as in the E30. At least it had a hydraulic steering wheel.

[@Mexxx65]

Best car, most enjoyable car, I've ragged on a road, in my over 50 years of driving. Was a little blue Fiat X1/9 5spd.....it had next to no power.....but it never felt lacking in power....and no, there has never been a newer high performance road car that has put as big a smile on my face, than that little X1/9. WITHIN road speed limits.

[@Homiloko2]

@@Mexxx65 Exactly, it's much more enjoyable to push a slow-ish car to the limits than drive a fast car at 1/10th of its capability because of speed limits.

[@driptalk3157]

Why are you comparing a suv to a sedan?

[@MasterBait1]

BMW's latest obsession with its indescribable design is what really killed my love for the brand.

[@urs6onfuturas975]

As a Volkswagen Audi Group with emphasis on Audi guy I feel this in my soul. The golden era for Audi was 1980-mid 2000's in my opinion. Are they great cars? Absolutely not. But the UrS cars/ early RS badged cars were special and they felt that way. I'll always have my UrS6. To me it is quintessential Audi with a longitudinal 5 cylinder turbo hanging way in the front with traditional quattro and a manual transmission. Present Audi is entirely a disappointment with uninspired outdated interiors and matching driving experiences. Sure they may go quickly from 0-60 but so does a model 3 performance from half the price if that's all anyone cares about.

[@da_korn_4052]

Miata Is Always The Answer

[@mandipneupane6597]

well I thought so but I think imma stick to my beater for some time after watching this video 😀

[@realist9311]

Often, not always because tall dude can’t fit in one comfortably - like me, unfortunately. The g87 is perfect.

[@karlhulme8014]

You beat me to it, I was about to say, “ get an MX5 “.

[@anthonycraig8411]

Or a GR 86

[@vigilance3109]

That’s because it’s modern. My $28.000 e46 m3 with 15 years of self maintenance and mods, costs me $60 of insurance a month still makes me happy. I nearly sold it a few times but man, if you get the right one it will bring happiness for years and years.

[@MrFilth]

You mean fast cars that you can't afford with ease won't make you happy? No shit.

[@asishreddy7729]

Imagine how unhappy the guys with lambos and Ferraris must be lol. Thanks for the heartfelt honesty, much appreciated

[@Eric-qx7fg]

They wouldn’t be worried about those types of toys they’re rich… lol

[@mustasheolll2020]

Money my not make everyone happy but it certainly does for me 😁 Yes, I’m a money-lover.

[@ferrous3262]

so you would rather cry in a Honda instead of a Ferrari

[@mattmartini836]

those cars would be the only fast cars I'd buy and happily drive slow on the streets as the engine sounds alone are a dream.. an M2 is nice but they dont sound like much and imo they are not that fun to drive.

[@gravemind6536]

They're very happy they bought show off cars they drive in the city centre just to rev and look cool because that's what sells those cars nobody drives anywhere in them. Great round a track too.

[@krisztianfinta7131]

Owning a fast car is a dream for many, and I completely get it. I bought a 2023 GR86 for €50K, financing it myself. It’s an incredible car-nimble, engaging, and honestly, even more fun than an M2 on normal roads. Don’t get me wrong, I love this car. It feels like a part of me-it was the first car I bought on my own, and I even met my wife while I owned it. But here’s the reality: even when it’s just sitting in the garage during winter, it costs me €500 a month in financing and insurance. In summer, that jumps to €900 with fuel and higher insurance premiums. Looking back, I’ve spent so much money on something I barely use, and it just doesn’t make sense anymore. If you’re dreaming of buying a car like this, I’d strongly recommend leasing one first. Try it out for a few months before committing to see if it fits your lifestyle. Many owners, myself included, eventually realize that while these cars are amazing, they’re not always practical. Honestly, my 1999 Smart does the same job for a fraction of the cost. Owning a car like this is about more than just the thrill-it’s a lifestyle choice that can affect your finances, priorities, and even how you view cars in the long run. If I could go back, I’d have thought harder about how much value I’d truly get from the car versus the money I’d be spending. Fast cars are incredible, but they’re not worth sacrificing financial freedom or peace of mind for. Make sure the car serves you, and not the other way around. Of course, if you can afford it without any financial stress, then go for it-that’s a completely different story. But if you’re stretching your budget to make it work, take a step back. I made the mistake of letting my excitement take over, and I hope sharing this helps someone avoid the same regrets.

[@senseofthecommonman]

If you are satisfied with a smart, then a gr86 was definitely the wrong car for you.

[@widebodyryloken1417]

I just got a ‘25 brz. I love the thing and it’s definitely worth the money but I can afford it stress free. Subaru also doesn’t scam you 😅

[@ViaConDias]

Out of all the many cars I've had my 1998 BMW Z3 2.8L 193hp is by far the most fun. It drives fantastic, has enough power to move, slide, etc., but not so much that I can't push it without going insane speeds, and with the roof down I can enjoy just going for a cruise. I can't recommend it enough.

[@genomedia44]

This is probably the most important car enthusiast video out there. After watching many videos and reading many forums, I read between the lines of what was said; they all subtly, but indirectly , mostly without even realising it themself, say what you said here explicitly. So I bought a "cheap" little hot hatch that were said to be fun. Not stupid fast, but fun

[@Not_Lewis]

I traded a mustang for a Honda Civic SI this week. I bought the mustang years ago impulsively because I wanted something sleek and fast. As a 24 year old bachelor it was a great car. But 5 years, 25,000 miles and a brand new city later, my priorities shifted. I wasn't looking for validation from random people on the street saying "That's a nice mustang". In fact this car tested my patience some. The clutch was stiff and a pain to drive in stop go traffic. The gearbox was meh and hated cold weather. The back seats were practically unusable for any trips longer than 30 minutes, and my passengers complained about that. Other nitpicks - meh gas mileage, poor infotainment system, rough suspension for city commuting. I chose the civic SI because it's sporty enough to feel engaging, very practical with backseats and trunk size, good driver features and great infotainment system. Easy clutch and excellent gearbox. This is all the car I actually need. From a utilitarian perspective, anything more than this is just luxury. Hell even the features being offered in this car is a luxury by some standards.

[@HermanWillems]

Why do a lot of immigrants always drive this Honda Civic SI ? Im European i was also to Canada and yeah. Always saw "typical" person driving these cars.

[@Manas-jr3po]

Nice decision sir japanese are always amazing reliable, durable, practical, affordable and beautiful offcourse 😊

[@Not_Lewis]

@@HermanWillems that's really what it's made for.

[@michaelcliffe562]

It's not fast cars that don't make you happy. It's NEW cars that don't make you happy.

[@CptHolt]

Don't make HIM happy, if the only thing that makes you happy is that it's new, it's not really that car that will derive happiness

[@GabrielGonzalez-pn6dp]

I’d truly recommend an E30 for any new enthusiasts. Huge aftermarket and community. Poly bushings, suspension, wheels, and exhaust is all you really need to make these things fun when you want them to be. I own an E30, E46, and a 2006 STi. The e30 is honestly my favorite to daily. It’s light, reliable, fun, and still comfortable depending on your setup. Can’t forget about how good they look stock. E30>Miata sorry to say it.

[@Quickb3n]

I’m at that point in my late 20’s where I’m realising that peak automotive enjoyment for me at the minute with a semi urban commute is a comfortable German saloon with a whopping big V8 in it. Bought an S500, gave it a res delete and put a hi flow manifold on it and it’s like driving a very angry cloud.

[@MickDrivesCars]

I think my peak enjoyment is a 2-car garage 1 - the most boring car on the road (civic, golf, corolla) that you can park anywhere and nobody looks at you 2 - roadster with skinny tries and little power you can drive 10/10 without breaking the speed limit 3(?) - angry cloud? it does sound fun.

[@Quickb3n]

@ Yep absolutely. If you’ve got the room and financial overhead, a 2 car garage cannot be beat. I’ve daily driven a straight piped NC MX5 and an E89 Z4, the NC was the most raw driving experience I’ve ever had due it being heavily tinkered with for the best b-road experience but my GOD was it a pig to live with. The E89 is bit of a fence-sitter, not quite dynamic enough to be a truly great roadster but not soft and comfortable enough for a comfortable commuter. Now that I’ve got the S500 I’m wishing I still had that NC to go alongside it ! And yeah, angry cloud is the best way I can describe it. You don’t feel a thing, nor hear a thing when you’ve got it in comfort and it’s bearly hitting 1.2k revs. But plant your foot and the 5.0L NA V8 purrs to life and you get the kick of lowdown torque to throw you down the road, still not actually feeling like the car is making contact with the road.

[@mortensenvick5711]

Too bad they don't sell the Yangwang U8 here in Canada that would be cool for my 2 car garage. My other vehicle is 2018 911 4S manual with powerkit and ceramic brakes. Great ride even when outside is -10 F. For truly enjoyment awd is essential though

[@crossfitvalve9147]

@@MickDrivesCars I daily a Tiguan and have a NC mx5 with coilovers + exhaust for a Sunday drive and agree with your comment

[@ikut4888]

super saloon lovers unite! Got a first gen Panamera GTS recently, and while I've been feeling some of the financial points of this video, it reinforces my decision to avoid the turbo-equipped cars... It's fast enough as it is, and handles absurdly well for its size, but most importantly... It's comfortable and luxurious. And when you drive a lot, long distances, lots of commuting, the luxury matters. Good suspension, good NVH considerations, comfortable seating for long periods, and general ergonomics are all critical things that a lot of more "sensible" cars lack. And if I'm feeling spicy I can open up the sports exhaust valves, switch to sport mode, and hear that N/A V8 roar. Sure, ridiculous speed and handling are definitely things that will seem exciting at first and then fade away, or you may not get to enjoy fully on most roads. Comfort never gets old though.

[@ChadAV69]

I had a decently fast car back in the day and I sold it because my Miata was way more fun and cheaper to run. I really don’t get why people enjoy these 450+ WHP cars. You can’t even gun it without being stressed about losing your license.

[@thegruia998]

I just turned 18 and have an Audi A4 B6. It isn't high hp, but has a lot of torque and takes corners fun at 60. I'm honestly so happy with it.

[@MrJave_]

My G20 330i provides me with all the fun I'd ever want from a car. Great as a simple daily driver as well. Don't really want more power, even though I've driven much more powerful cars. I used to think I want more, but when I realised I don't even really squeeze this car to its maximum potential, that's when I became perfectly happy with what I have.

[@MrLolwuts]

My last car was a GR86 that I had for little over a year, until it was written off by an elderly driver ploughing into the back of me whilst I was in stationary traffic. Once the insurance was settled, I was looking to buy another GR but could only get ones with high mileage 2nd hand and I couldn't buy new as they stopped shipping new models to the UK. So... I ended up getting a BMW Z4 M40I as I've always wanted a Z4 since being a teenanger and had the cash to put a significant despost down from the above event. I've had the Z4 for nearly a year now and whilst I don't regret the purchase, and it is fun to drive and semi practical for a daily. I totally agree with this video and say I had more fun in my GR86 with the percieved feeling of going faster than you actually are around corners, and the feel of acceleration and response from the car etc, but still remaining within the speed limit. The Z4 - Whilst not a true M car or sports car def has it moments in sports mode with the assists off. but I feel like I'm spending more time focusing on not killing myself or someone else than grinning and giggling like I did in my old lesser powered GR. That's my 2 pence anyway - great video.

[@lorenzito0852]

That's what I was feeling, my dream car was actually a GT86 until the GR86 came around. Ended up getting a GR and don't regret it a single bit. It has just enough power to be fun, the chassis is excellent and it's actually quite practical for a sports car. Yup, perfect for me. I am just not so well off with money atm so that's stressing me a bit, but I will pay it off. Really sorry to hear about yours getting totaled, they also stopped shipping them to Spain so that's one of my fears, specially as those cars are hard to see from bigger SUVs and such. Hope you find something that fills that void in the future, life is long! If you think your z4 does not fill you enough, you will always be able to switch it to another one, those cars don't lose as much value as others.

[@corysimpson4499]

I'm looking at a 2020-up Z4 and am tossed between the 30 and the M40i. Based on your experience, do you think the 30i would suffice for you?

[@macauleychapman855]

I felt EXACTLY the same last year. I always wanted a a45 and I slowly built up to it by having a focus ST, 350z, cupra’s etc all before. When I got it I loved it but I ended up feeling like I was forcing myself to love it for the same reasons you’re saying as its just to powerful, numb and grippy for the UK country roads. Imagine saying I’ve now gone from a 440bhp A45 AMG to an old BMW 130i which is 260bhp and I prefer the BM. It’s crazy actually what brings you fun compared to what you dream about owning.

[@gravemind6536]

200-300hp is generally the sweet spot.

[@McRooster]

Bought my dream car (Mitsubishi Evo 7), and while it did make me happy for a while priorities change over time. Now I just drive around a nice comfy lexus, and use my money on travel instead of car mods,

[@senseofthecommonman]

I had an Evo7 and now drive a Lexus! But I still regret to this day selling it.

[@nerd0815]

Love the video, totally understand and totally agree. Just one small remark: when you‘re highlighting that the car is overengineered for 60 mph - please keep in mind that in Germany, where BMW is from, we have this thing called the Autobahn with no speed limits. Sure, an international audience is buying the M cars etc, but those are the roots 😁

[@retr0_o161]

Completely agree with everything you’ve said. With cars that have less hp, you can use 100% all of the time which is more enjoyable as an enthusiast. I think around 200bhp is about right.

[@tommybanger]

This is one of your best videos Mick. Most of us who watch your channel likely don't have cars even close to something like a g87 and only see the positives of owning one from the outside looking in. I'm gonna save this vid and come back to it everytime Im fantasising over buying an extremely luxurious car

[@silentstormstudios]

Your points about the car being too much for road use are spot on. I’m going through the same feelings with my Jaguar F-Type R. The car is wide and has way too much power to be used responsibly on public roads. As you said, a couple seconds on the throttle and you’re at go-to-jail speeds and too fast for tight country roads. But go slower and the car is just blushing and not giving you that visceral rush. Also, F-Types are relatively rare, so a red F-Type R out in farm country gets some attention, which isn’t really what I want or why I bought the car. I love the car, but it’s rarely driven for reasons above and because I’m OCD about how my cars look, and can’t stand the idea of it getting dinged up by driving it on less desirable roads or parking in dodgy car parks. The logical move would be to selling, or to not have bought but in the first place. I can afford it, and I love it, but this kind of toy is just unnecessary in the grand scheme of my life.

[@NickWilliams-z6t]

These comments are spot-on for the UK. I used to drive supercharged 370bhp Jags on a daily basis 12 years ago. Last month I bought a 500bhp XFR. The difference in the roads and the car in that period is huge: all the traffic and parked cars are now wider, the number of cameras including average speed and dashcams has rocketed, and the level/volume of traffic, which mostly is ordinary people with no interest in cars/driving or getting anywhere quickly has made driving just a series of processions...you may pass a car or two but you quickly catch the next lot. The old Jags were deliciously fast, they were involving and engaging, with traditional steering that's not electric. The XFR is brilliant but less involving. And as he says, just a couple of seconds of hard acceleration and you're into irresponsible and dangerous speeds. Honestly one of my favourite cars was a 1.1 litre Peugeot 106! MG Midget 1275s were also brilliant because they're small and narrow. Ditto MX5s. I even use a 1959s MG ZB saloon as a daily - ish because you really can enjoy throwing it around and accelerating hard and flowing through gaps that have the modern car behind slowing down. All these are narrow, light weight, easy to see out of and inexpensive to run. So there's a real lesson in this video. And it's the reason why so many high performance sports cars have so many owners on the logbook.

[@jonycreed]

Hey, I got an MX5 ND (2015) about 5 months ago. I can 100% confirm this is the most fun i've had on a car, even compared to 300+ HP cars. In the MX5 you can 90% of the times go full throttle without being in constant danger. The car weights about 1000 kg and is relatively cheap to run. I can get 9L/100km if I floor it and run at 7k rpms all the time, but I can also get 5,5L/100 km when comuting to my work smoothly at about 2-3k rpms. If you plan to daily drive, i highly recommend getting the last gen (ND) as you also get very useful more updated everyday features. I do have to point out tho, the MX5 at slower speeds also lacks a bit of communication on the steering. I still have to confirm if its not a problem with my particular aligment (as these require a relatively high caster) but I've also heard more reports that it indeed lacks a bit of feel so it could be normal. Still, for street roads, I honestly feel its the best choice out there. HIGH FUN without a very high cost.

[@alexcm.05]

Good comment man, the lack of steering feel could be solved by remapping the EPS module

[@burakoruk26]

I bought one 2 months ago, which was a 60 hp downsize from my previous Honda Accord. But boy, I'm having too much fun compared to before. The MX5 ND is super responsive with the NA engine, and rides smoothly with its lightweight chassis. I just love everything about it. I can just push it around the corners and it sticks, I can relax and just commute in the rain and again no problem. At this point I don't know how am I going to ride another car after this at this price range.

[@MickDrivesCars]

ND is actually completely out of the running because steering. Even the ''improved'' ND3 is not what I'm looking for. Current front-runner is a manual-steering NA

[@Mexxx65]

@@MickDrivesCars That little blue Fiat X1.9 I've mentioned here, had no power steering, didn't need it. The feedback through its diminutive steering wheel was magic.

[@MickDrivesCars]

YES! I read a thread somewhere about the best steering feel in all cars. #1 was Lotus elise, obviously... you can go watch my pov in one. #2 was the bloody X1.9!!! I really want to drive one.

[@matthewpatterson9184]

This is one of the most insightful videos you've put out and it's easy to agree with the points you've raised here. I for one can wholeheartedly support the idea of jumping into something more sensible, all the while providing just as much enjoyment (if not more) than the M2. Brilliant work, Mick.

[@andrewdileo]

Speaking from experience too, having a nice expensive sporty car in high school and college, especially, people will damage it out of pure jealousy

[@onikijunru]

this is the realest car talk of 2025 hands down

[@AlexSchwartzATV]

How did i see the miata coming a quarter mile away lmaooo

[@ryandaly5642]

Ammended title: Fast Cars You Can't Afford to Comfortably Own Won't Make You Happy

[@yozzacup]

My thoughts exactly but couldn’t work out how to word it 😂

[@romanz2361]

With I could speak English that good to express myself! Exactly my thought

[@pontus.andersson]

Thats not really what the video was about tho.

[@samwiseknows]

YES!!

[@federicomontesdeoca8977]

watch the second part too, it's more about how more enjoyable it is to go on slower and smaller cars with higher revs and forcing their grip limits.

[@almostremembered]

Really great perspective. This is why I think cars like the Golf R have the reputation of being the "perfect road car." Bone stock, it's fast enough and capable enough for literally any sort of real-world scenario on public roads. It's practical, gets good mpg, is relatively cheap to repair aside from the Haldex awd system, and it isn't flashy. Any car that is significantly faster than something like the Golf R can only be driven at a fraction of its full potential, which isn't very fun to be honest. Heck, it's even tough to get to the limits of a Golf R on public roads. Cheers - great video!

[@zwieback1988]

I had an S3 8V for many years until sombody crashed into it parked outside, now a leon cupra 4D. Same powertrain (4.8s to 100kmh). Yes, more low rev torque is always nice.. but if you use the full 300 horses and the stock dcc suspension you will not be overtaken in any public countryroad… on the autobahn yes.. as it limits at 270 on the speedo.. but who cares?

[@mickl8212]

1998 Integra Type R, amazing to drive, reliable, cheap to run and won't decrease in value. Also perfect for UK roads as 200bhp in a car weighing just over a ton is more than enough.

[@userw-f7c]

Great video Mick.. Thanks for your honesty! Something that you never hear too much about from motoring journalists is daily usage and finance, not to mention the unwanted attention that you can get as well... that closing story was abit scary...

[@MickDrivesCars]

I'm glad lots of people are relating to the video! I'll maybe do more ''real world'' talks like this in future

[@mortyrosenstein4211]

I got a GT500 and it absolutely makes me incredibly happy every single day I get into it. I find myself driving just to drive. One of the few cars I have had that thrills me this way. It is absurdly fast. So fast it’s basically useless on 50% of roads. Full pulls get you into arresting level speeds so fast they really can’t be done in city limits. The car can only be uncorked on freeways or the track. Don’t care. The sound, the seats, the pull, the steering feel, the crazy attention it gets from other car guys, it’s the best money I have ever spent.

[@Boguardis]

This reminds me of my coworker who just recently bought a 2025 Wrangler 392 Rubicon. He paid over $100,000 for it. Everyone at work thinks he is insane because while we make great money, he "brags" about how expensive it is to drive since it has a 6.4 hemi. First off, $100,000 for a wrangler IS insane. Second, he says he is hardly ever going to drive it and this is a "mid-life crisis" purchase. Third, when he is done paying for this vehicle that he is never going to drive, he is going to have spent over $15,000 in interest (probably more TBH since his credit is most likely shit) and the car will depreciate bad, probably another $25,000 in the next few years. People like this absolutely blow my mind.

[@chucknv5482]

I ran that jeep through the edmunds cost to own calculator and it came out to $20k in financing cost over 5 years, $41k in depreciation, $24k in fuel cost, among various other costs. Essentially on top of the $104k price tag, it costs another $107k to own over 5 years. They may be saving some money by not driving it, but that depreciation will still hit regardless. Everyone thinks their garage kept car is somehow impervious to depreciation but even an immaculate car maybe changes depreciation by 10% at most. Their calculator is pretty accurate so this is even worse than you were thinking.

[@Boguardis]

@@chucknv5482 I just don't understand why he wouldn't just swap a hellcat engine into a cheaper one. Out of all the vehicles you could buy for $100k.. that would be the last one I would buy. Pretty sure he paid the $10,000 markup and he only is putting $5000 down on it (they're giving him 45 days to come up with it lol) I guess the saving grace he has is that if he DOES want to sell it, it will most likely have low miles since he says he isn't going to use it to commute.

[@bradleysmith2711]

Hey Mick, you may never read this, but I’ve had a similar experience that may help you. I bought an f87 M2 when that was new as my first significant performance car. It wasn’t as fast as yours, but I shared your reflections about usability/feel/value and also got a lot of unwanted attention - I was eventually car jacked about a year into ownership. Since then I’ve always recommended that people with M cars, r32s, Range Rovers etc keep their house keys separate from their car keys, and never keep any personal/vehicle docs in the car. Since then the best car I’ve owned is my current Alpine a110 - few better cars for the money on a UK b-road imo, usable performance, robust used availability, and I’ve had no unwanted attention a year in. Might be a good option for you too. Mx5 is obviously a great option too - just thought I’d share in case it’s at all helpful. Best wishes for your channel going forward!

[@alb3096]

Alpine a110 was the first option i was thinking after viewing entire vidéo. Little, Amazing balance, cheapnrunning costs, downside only automatic gearbox. I had a Few sports car 2 lotus evora, 2 Cayman 981, 997S, 992, M2 compétition, RX8. I must admit that thé less powerful werde probably the more enjoyable to drive. Thé car that did make me forget about not driving sports car during thé winter was my Stelvio Veloce Q4, sterling, braies, feedback, cornering speed that car had it all from praticality to sportscar feeling, a kinf of solution if only one car can be purchased.

[@manojmohan7264]

It’s the first time I’m subscribing to someone after watching just one single video.

[@realtian-7]

My “dream” car is a Mazda MX-5. The driving experience it offers within legal limits is unparalleled, and there’s no need for a more powerful car on the street. I hope one day I’ll be able to afford a good MX-5.

[@Andreas-jl9nr]

I've driven my parents MX-5 nd2 a hundred times and it truly is the perfect car, it feels amazing on country roads in the summer and it's so much fun sliding around corners with the RWD in the winter. I wish I had just a tiny bit more headspace though and the rear-view mirror takes up alot of my visibility.

[@realtian-7]

@@Andreas-jl9nr The headroom is indeed tight, especially if you’re tall, but I think that’s part of its character.

[@waynesimpson2074]

@@realtian-7 More room in an NC...just.

[@TheMqyable]

unfortunately no more 2.0L engine in Europe.

[@theninethrees8044]

I keep telling this, my MR2 Spyder is not fast by any means but man its quick, handles AMAZING which makes it fun, convertible, gets attention, extremely fuel efficient and reliable because Toyota! Low cost running sports car and no car payments.

[@derdes4475]

Wow, as an "old" enthusiast, this is an incredible video to watch. What you've experienced seems to be maturing as an enthusiast and influencer. You bought the car primarily for clout, but not necessarily to meet your needs, and it feels like you actually have the maturity to admit it and take steps to solve the issue instead of doubling down on your mistake. That's awesome. That being said, your arguments are mostly spot on and your conclusions are solid, as well. I think you're absolutely on the right track with picking up a Miata: Convertibles always feel much faster, it's an incredibly sporty car that's more about cornering, it's very easy to maintain and fix yourself, making it much cheaper and it's pretty conservative on the fuel. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

[@kenim]

Truly, once you get older and have plenty of “real problems” you dont really wanna deal with cars that have special needs, unless its something truly special.

[@markwhitaker3673]

You want a car that has reasonable performance, good steering feel, gearchange, brakes and suspension that you can use all the time and for not much money. If you have a modern, expensive, crazy fast car, you can't use its capabilities safely on the road and you worry about every nick/ scratch, possible theft, cost of fuel/maintenance, and insurance. Besides, it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast one slow. I had a modified B6 Audi S4 with E39 M5 levels of power and while the speed and noise were great, most everything else wasn't, including running costs. My current daily is a 2020 Subaru WRX which is just right for everyday use, fast enough and engaging to drive, and a lot cheaper to run. Nice video-you pretty much nailed it.