Mickey Factz Diss Track | The Joe Budden Podcast

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[@nolanmendoza43]

"Mickey did Mickey.." Nah, he also did Ransom, Payne and Royce too LMFAO.

[@ThePeaceDealer]

😭😭😭

[@conflictortiz8906]

Dang straight Facts like Mikey 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jemz4173]

Factsssss

[@uros1996ful]

That's funny

[@JordanClemons]

And Cass

[@earthsuperstar1]

Lupe diss Joe: he sounds too emotional, he's throwing low blows Micky diss Joe: it wasn't enough, he must recognize when he's punching up Royce: radio silence Joe: cape on (sway the narrative) 😂😂😂😂

[@earthsuperstar1]

Also Joe: Saucy Santana walk record equals Hit Em Up 😂😂😂😂😂

[@stoopconvo2924]

And i want everybody to realize Lupe did a freestyle at 2am when he heard Royce song...how great was that!

[@draenation265]

@@stoopconvo2924 the freestyle was ass tho. Royce lost out of failure to respond. I still don't think he got out rapped. But he definitely lost this cause if you gon rap, rap.

[@thatdudebonzo]

Joe is a far better rapper than Mickey facts. Joe said it everyone can rap in the whole equation. And he is right except Mickey.

[@TheJokerBeats]

Short summary: Royce claims he is the best. Lupe asks him to rap. Royce calls him a Bxtch. Lupe freestyles on live. Royce took more than a week to record a song. Lupe drops a diss within 3 hours. Royce gets on live with micky and basically sons him on live. Micky drops a diss. Royce left the chat.

[@pharoh2700]

I personally don’t think Royce son’d Mickey on the live.. after like the 15th time of Royce talking about checking a box, it seemed like Royce was trolling & joking. But either way at the end of the day, Mickey & Lupe flamed Royce. He has to respond

[@Jinxcity84]

@@pharoh2700 naw Toyce was definitely playing him. And even got worse when Joe Budden got on.

[@guiceice]

Smfh "Royce took more than a week to record a song" like yall could rap even half as nice as him on that song in that amount of time.....yall bandwagon fans kill me. That lupe shit was not that nice.

[@kray9438]

The best short summary 👏🏽👏🏽

[@Jinxcity84]

@@guiceice bruh if your one of the greats and saying your the best then that’s Bullshit. Cause your competition is banging out tracks in a day or 2. The rules of war in diss records has always been quick turnaround. If you the best it shouldn’t take long.

[@thinktank1]

Mickey Factz definitely..... "Checked all the boxes!" 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@EvybdyhatesJuJuj]

No he didn’t

[@mauricejohnson6127]

@@EvybdyhatesJuJuj how didnt he?

[@vexotimmer2675]

"Yeah I check boxes, that's what morticians do" Mickey Factz got Royce up outta there.

[@awwskit3929]

@@EvybdyhatesJuJuj you don’t even know what the boxes are nobody does

[@presidave1931]

@@EvybdyhatesJuJuj u sound corny

[@sonofmann]

Nah man Mickey factz diss is the most comprehensive most technically lryical and direct diss to this date he really put himself on the top of rap as far as capabilities. His diss track will go down in history and will be used as a template on how to rap going forward.

[@2jwade]

Q

[@Nakedwittypod]

i agree

[@Jigganaut2000]

Boxes were checked

[@brotherangelox4635]

FACTZ!!! Anyone that doesn't think Mickey diss track to rouyce was 🔥🔥🔥 they're HATING an there lame af!

[@storymode5470]

Mickey Factz did more than checking boxes, he checked Royce! The change in the world is that this diss record will go down in history as one of best diss ever and out of all ppl its against ROYCE!

[@DualityUnlimited]

We aren’t even going to speak on it by the end of the month.

[@storymode5470]

@@DualityUnlimited I WILL

[@243entertainment9]

factzzz dat diss was top 10 all time the way he surgically picked him apart n then used other dudes styles smh n it was all FACTZZZ he spit

[@storymode5470]

@@243entertainment9 yo he over did it when he became other ppl and used Royce flow and everything towards the end! Never heard nothing like this from another artist lol 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Gorguruga]

@@storymode5470 Imitating other rappers has been done several before. There was even a rapper a few decades ago that imitated other artists as part of his style, I forget his name now but he used to imitate 2pac and Biggie in the same tune. So that type of thing been done before but still a dope track from Mickey.

[@johnsonmoj]

Joe is off his rocker. Mickey dropped a masterpiece and Joe’s confirmation bias won’t allow him to acknowledge the fact his man got bodied, and mind you I’m a Royce fan.

[@user-sq4lh4ly4m]

I'm surprised Joe can sit still from all that d riding

[@alphaintellect]

Exactly

[@king_vision4085]

Nah joe speaking facts. Cant even say micky washed royce till we hear royce respond. Same way people were saying mgk washed em before killshot dropped

[@oxalic6848]

Factz 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gemcitychico]

@@king_vision4085 problem is Royce probably ain’t gon respond. If he doesn’t he lost. Royce talked about being the best rapper then when people rapped, he wanted to take it to the streets, not the booth 😂

[@tchallal6684]

@@king_vision4085 kill shot was trash.

[@AcidRant1]

Joe made Royce lose so much more than he already did lmao

[@gabe2true]

Mickey's diss was solid. Seems like Joe just wants to discredit it cuz Royce is his homie and that gives him a convenient excuse not to respond to it.

[@king_vision4085]

Nah joe speaking facts. Cant even say micky washed royce till we hear royce respond. Same way people were saying mgk washed em before killshot dropped

[@gabe2true]

@@king_vision4085 What if Royce never responds? Drake never responded to Pusha T after Story Of Adidon essentially making Push the winner of that beef. And even if Royce does respond you still can't say this wasnt fire unless you're being bias. I'm a huge Royce fan but Wraith was checking off alot of boxes man.

[@king_vision4085]

@@gabe2true never said wraith wasn't good. It was fire. Im a royce fan. And now im a micky factz fan. At the same time, we shouldn't jump the gun and act like Micky washed Royce, when Royce hasn't responded. Remember how long it took EM to respond to MGK. While we waited for EM, some people were acting like Rap Devil bodied Em

[@chris-jn4ut]

Mikey facts diss was solid. Royce already have an excuse to not respond. He said he won't go personals and that excuse is enough to not drop something unless they keep pulling the strings he might go with a personal diss which what people expected on the lupe diss, he just flaunted his lyrical skills on that diss.

[@brooklynborn]

Royce got washed, and he's too afraid to respond to Mickey Factz

[@JordanClemons]

Ironically, Lupe is what Royce wanted for his own career, imo. That's what it looks like. Lupe has seen mainstream success multiple times, and is still revered as a top tier rapper. Royce thinks he's on a different level of these guys, when one could answer that he's not

[@perfectwoman266]

Lies

[@angryblackmanmedia7336]

One doesn't have to answer, Lupe already has

[@t-god2439]

Hov think I’m hov , nas think I’m nas you don’t gotta think you is when you are your words make that bar so much more clearer

[@ntuthukomkhize6140]

Boooom!

[@charliek8405]

Cause EM fucks with Royce made Royce feels he is a more superior rapper than the rest rapper but he is not... Royce is just a rapper... Eminem only made him look special... If Eminem did not involve with Royce I doubt if Royce can ever have this little fame

[@danieldannydan1573]

joe don’t give af about his credibility anymore 😂

[@velikapo4419]

He never did only lames like this lame!

[@stephencox8723]

remember summer leather vest? when did joe ever give af? union is fire btw lol.

[@ntuthukomkhize6140]

Absolutely

[@BreakHarpe]

@@velikapo4419 FACTZ!!!!!!

[@galkahana9300]

Lupe should have more in his clip? Lmao 🤣 he freestyled a hard diss of the top. Can you imagine if he really took his time and sat down to write a diss? What is Joe talking about? Lupe is up there like wtf??

[@galaxy2901]

That shit was not a off the top of the head freestyle.

[@BreakHarpe]

@@DeeRG 😂😂😂

[@nategrae6074]

@@galaxy2901why do you think it wasn’t

[@mistahjay8598]

Mickey was right Joe is a Royce D rider I get it tho. That's his guy.

[@terryindachat7296]

Joe owes Mickey a slap for keeping his head down when Rae and his two goons ran up in Joe trailer and slapped him.

[@yup1992]

I get that’s his mans but if that was my dude getting jumped lyrically I would’ve lit that fire in him to go at em this passive aggressive elitism shit is whack

[@bossblck6399]

Mickey is a coward who sat like a pigeon in a corner when shit got rough 😂

[@yvette3131]

Why are y’all ok with Royce having to go back and forth with two MCs?

[@darkneji190]

@@yvette3131 cause he asked for it especially Mickey

[@Thecornerdojotv]

If Royce doesn’t rap he lost

[@johnthompson54]

Royce rapped first

[@Thecornerdojotv]

@@johnthompson54 not to Mickey, Mickey caught a stray Mickey rapped he gotta respond

[@user-of8rh5dk2v]

He already lost Lupe smoked him

[@BreakHarpe]

@@user-of8rh5dk2v lol didn't Lupe bomb on him multiple times?

[@devonblair72]

That shit was fire. Joe hating cuz Royce his man.

[@king_vision4085]

Nah joe speaking facts. Cant even say micky washed royce till we hear royce respond. Same way people were saying mgk washed em before killshot dropped

[@devonblair72]

@@king_vision4085 nigga until Royce respond it’s a clean sweep. It don’t matter if you rate Mickey song at a 3/10. It’s still 3 to 0. So until Royce respond he got Bodied.

[@king_vision4085]

@@devonblair72 like i said... People were talking like that about MGK, "MGK washed em. Em aint even respond." Now MGK doing pop rock. And all those dudes who were claiming MGK washed EM were dead wrong.

[@devonblair72]

@@king_vision4085 well first off mickeys diss was way better mgk. And I’m not saying Mickey is about eclipse Royce or is better then Royce. Even with this mickeys career is probably not gonna get any better. But as of right now at this moment. He smoked Royce boots.

[@dkg6826]

@@king_vision4085 MGK song more playable than Kill Shit though.. What Royce gone say in a Mickey diss? He gone do everything Mickey said. Multi syllable, lyrical miracle bs. FOH 😂

[@luvsscii7871]

Bottomline ROYCE gOt snipped. If Eminem can respond to Machine Gun Kelly then Royce can respond to Mickey

[@JamesJordanbestnetworkeralive]

FACTZ!!!

[@gabe2true]

@@JamesJordanbestnetworkeralive I see what you did there

[@2solid4tv48]

Well said

[@2solid4tv48]

Actually gained more respect for em 4 dat

[@blestwynnz6634]

I love em but he HAD to respond to MGK because he literally called him out on an initial diss on his album. He made that shit official first. He couldn't then sit back and act like MGK was now beneath him. I still believe Royce should respond, but it's not the same situation.

[@marcoandell]

Royce got beheaded by Mickey now he running around in his feelings with his neck exposed.

[@TheAlphawolf6]

Lupe did Royce pretty dirty in SLR 31/2, and while Royce sent mostly jabs in his track, I don’t understand why he’s complaining and saying “the energy is off” when he mentioned Chill at the end which is obviously pretty personal and then he complained about people getting personal?

[@SirusMusic1]

Mickey snapped🔥🔥🔥

[@superdopehiphop]

Objectively it was the illest diss from a straight lyricism/🖊 perspective on wax I’ve ever heard PERIOD!

[@djjjonah]

Period

[@johnnym9483]

the people have spoken... royce got washed and thats ok.

[@king_vision4085]

Cant say royce got washed. He hasn't responded to mickey yet. Mickys diss is solid. But don't discredit royce.

[@Lilbuck338]

Smoked his 🥾 🤣

[@ashtongreen6270]

@@king_vision4085 You keep saying it like he’s going to respond, lol.

[@professorXcross]

@@romaretaylor9953 walking around...

[@tornadotom2390]

In a diss track setting..yes. But he barred both them boys to death with Lambda which was a much better song than any of the diss tracks aimed at him. Royce never once came out and said alright we're having a diss track battle he simply stated I I hope you all check the boxes and start writing. Lambda is one of the cleanest don't talk s*** anthems I ever heard in my life. But he's subtle and smooth not super Direct wants to show you the levels and people look at it this track as a Cutthroat straight right here face what you going to do about it. With all that being , if Royce doesn't respond which it looks like he isn't going to this is most certainly a giant L

[@Kingkeezey]

Y’all not gone tell Joe he wrong. Not on his podcast he not letting that shit happen 😂

[@flyinglow7218]

Arsenal brother better hold the hip hop to heart

[@smitty2516]

He gonna fire them too

[@dieversions]

Hes in denial 90 percent of the time

[@DM-lj2mn]

Joe being mad biased. Royce going out bad right now. He called everyone and got mad disrespectful and now he wants to be extra sensitive and not respond to anyone.

[@donpatchey3178]

Yea he definitely took the fun out of it... however.. off the first listen i did say damn they going in then i thought to my self aren't they friends why they talking like that it was kinda ill. But royce took it there and now i dont think we'll get anymore rapping out of this

[@xavierseels7972]

Mickey Factz is NOT a threat to Royce....AT ALL!!!

[@popandlock69]

@@xavierseels7972 then why won’t Royce come outside and rap?

[@donpatchey3178]

@@xavierseels7972 that diss track was clearly

[@DM-lj2mn]

@@donpatchey3178 Royce was disrespecting tf out of Lupe on IG Live and Lupe kept laughing off the insults. Lupe & Mickey responds on wax disrespectful, now Royce wants to take his ball back so none else can hoop at the park. Lol

[@variousrants]

Joe... Royce said to Mickey, and I quote “I think I can do what you do better than you”. Mickey got in the booth and did what he does. So, Royce opened up the door for Mickey to fire his shot. Royce now either has to prove that he can do it better by answering him in the booth, or stop running his mouth.

[@mell6481]

Joe stay capping lol!!! Royce got handled and now it's he's who he is? You said MGK punched Em in the mouth, you didn't say it's levels and tiers, you called for EM to rap...which I said that before your response. Your boy got handled.

[@davgoe9160]

Facts

[@ilovetosaythetru1]

I may have gotten your point wrong but if you mean EM by saying "your boy" and you honestly thing he got "handled" i think you need to start listening to iggy instead of high tier rappers

[@Zvts1992]

@@ilovetosaythetru1 idiot lol he means royce smh

[@muhfkajones]

Mickey not better than Royce stop that 🧢

[@mell6481]

@@ilovetosaythetru1 Em was Eminem vs MGK. His boy is Royce. Joe is a walking contradiction for folks that can't think. The same situation by Joe's statement is hypocritical because Royce is his guy. Royce making a rappity rap song doesn't mean he won a rap/diss track battle. Takeover was better hands down but guess what? Either was so disrespectful it didn't matter so Nas won as was Hit em up and no Vaseline. So to be clear on a straight disrespectful track MGK won against M&M and while Royce made an amazing song.... as a diss track? NAW, If you can't grasp that my guy learn the difference between an amazing bar filled song vs a disrespectful I'm punching you in your shit do something track.

[@kevthepoet]

I mean Joe and Royce basically bullied him on IG live for an hour so they both earned bars from Mickey. And he gave Royce barrrsss lol

[@branflakee4257]

You cant bully a grown man

[@yeahr1ghty]

@@branflakee4257 Wrong, look up the definition of bully. "seek to harm, intimidate, or coerce (someone perceived as vulnerable)" Men get bullied all the time, and its exactly what Joe did on that live.

[@Chich_Danza]

I'm so proud of the unity in the comment section lol MICKEY WENT CRAZY!! no cap.. Royce's record was solid, but Joe is tweaking if he thinks Royce is up rn.. Royce should absolutely respond or admit defeat lmao my bad I love this shit. and then Lupe being Lupe is always a beautiful site. peace

[@deesmoove5852]

These are facts my friend 💯

[@yourconscience507]

Yeah, especially looking back. A year later Royce took a HUGGGGEEE L on this one. Him trying to act offended and like Mickey crossed a line with his track is some bitch shit. You called him out and said he was below you on that stream - you have no position to say anything is crossing the line. You didn’t even take shots over a beat you literally just said to the man’s face “you are worse than me”

[@JordanClemons]

Royce not better than Lupe, idgaf what Joe talkin bout

[@jermainecarter2031]

Exactly.

[@jermainecarter2031]

Like lu said if it wasn't for, if it wasn't for, if it wasn't for, if it wasn't for, I got a dozen more

[@johndelaney1787]

Exactly bruh and I love royce! But c'mon my dude! Lupe is just different!

[@PhenomResurrections08]

Lmao Lupe could roll out of bed with a foggy brain, and still destroy Royce if Royce practiced for 10 days.

[@JordanClemons]

@PhenomRevolution143 its crazy, I fux with Royce, heavy, but in no way is he messing with Lupe. Lupe got regular songs, that have made albums, mixtape shit, that Royce can't even fuck with

[@RebelWithoutABoss]

If what Joe was saying we're true, Royce would just be ignoring Mickey rather than crying about him on IG live. You do that when you lose, like how Drake had to cry on Lebron's shoulder about Push.

[@watchdup7023]

Mickey is winning so far. Factz!

[@king_vision4085]

Cant even say micky washed royce till we hear royce respond. Same way people were saying mgk washed em before killshot dropped

[@watchdup7023]

@@king_vision4085 lucky no one said that aye

[@russellstevens9927]

@@king_vision4085 Naw, we was all just sayin' MGK went in. Most of is knew he was dead as soon as he dropped that. Once Eminem is active and he starts dropping albums, that means he is going to be near a booth for a while and if you diss him, it won't be nothin' for him to get into a booth and bite your head off. Eminem is a God! MGK is lucky all Em did was respond. He could have made a phone call and MGK would have disappeared and his rap career would have ceased to exist. MGK should be counting his blessings everyday.

[@benjaminr7359]

This is a painful listen. Joe knows damn well Mickey Facts flamed Royce, and Royce knows it too, hence him being mad salty n emotional 😂

[@johnnym9483]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 cappin.... Royce is not that large. he's a bigger artist than Mickey Facts but rapping is rapping.

[@RichBoiRichBoi]

& only bigger cause of......Eminem 🤣

[@muhfkajones]

Are you insane bruh 🤔 or are you just saying anything? Royce just got Lupe outta here imo. He'll respond when he wants to respond 🤷🏿‍♂️ Mickey was fire but Royce different!!!

[@RichBoiRichBoi]

@@muhfkajones got Lupe outta here???? You buggin lol

[@twinblade6]

Thank you. I feel the same way when niggas act like battle rappers can't rap with Lux

[@bricesonloving2702]

Joe talking like Royce is Nas or Jay z 😂😂😂😂 Royce ain’t even on Black thought level

[@SammyPrice007]

In what world is Royce 100 levels above Mickey Facts 😂😂😂

[@kaylpedro]

Based on popularity I guess

[@SammyPrice007]

Royce can’t sell 40K units without Eminem

[@bryancole4022]

Even though he got a Grammy nominated album WITHOUT an Em feature 🤣🤦

[@allenhicks8847]

Should have won. No disrespect to Tyler.

[@turtleanton6539]

Not after that this

[@barnesk80]

People do not give Joe Budden credit for his diss records against drake. Them records were fire 🔥

[@wesleyblack8302]

They didn't give him props the same way he won't give Micky props. But they were both lit

[@darnelldarden9429]

Them shits were fire, if someone on the same level as drake would have released them they would have done more damage

[@kwanwallacephotography5145]

Royce needs to Rap point blank fuck that level shit joe talking about Mickey shit was 🔥 and I never even heard of him until now

[@muhfkajones]

Just heard of him? Mickey was fire don't get me wrong but come on bruh this Royce Da 5'9 not some mumble rapper!!!

[@kwanwallacephotography5145]

@@muhfkajones what you want me to do I cant go back in time I'm just learning about mickey facts🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@TharsanJeyachandran]

@@kwanwallacephotography5145 only now oh your young

[@kwanwallacephotography5145]

@@TharsanJeyachandran 34

[@BigChrisENT]

Joe funny. Royce yapped his mouth for a week trying to get out of this. We all saw him going live, in the studio at that, talking all the higher power, better purpose nonsense. Lupe was baiting him to kill all that talking and just rap. He finally comes out this beautifully written display of penmanship that he clearly had been working on for at least a week. This was right after Lu was casually freestyle in flip flops and karate pants around the house for 10 minutes. Then within house of Royce dropping his master's thesis, Lupe casually glides on the beat with that super Raw hip hop we all wanted. Mickey comes through with some more skraight bars. Now we all looking at Royce like wassup? Joe just salty Lupe and Mickey left him some jabs and he can't do anything about it. How could you possibly listen to that Lupe diss and think he wasn't just getting started. He hasn't even begun to get disrespectful yet. Joe, we know Royce ya mans but he ain't invincible

[@ryancoleman303]

So who you got winning round one royce or Lu? Cuz that freestyle was lukewarm at best. Like a c effort to be frank.

[@BigChrisENT]

@@ryancoleman303 first, I don't call any freestyles weak when 99.99% couldn't do it on que to begin with. As far as the first round Lupe won with the first response he put out. Royce song was well written, with a decent beat and a ton of bars, which is expected after having over a week to prepare. To me it sounded he repurposed an already written son into a diss. BUT when the opponent responds within 3 hours, with an actual Diss, that's funny, witty, direct, and highly rated by the fans, YOU WIN. Then when you continue to rap every day song after song of bars against the guy who prides himself on his pen. Royce has to just take the permanent L at this point and move on. Lupe is in a different league.

[@ryancoleman303]

@@BigChrisENT First I didn't say weak I said lukewarm. It wasn't memorable it wasn't direct a few lines hear and there but your being incredibly bias to give Lu points for responding even though the response wasn't good and sounded emotional. And the fan point is totally irrelevant. Lu has wayyyy more fans than Royce lol. And while the track a day is cool they aren't disses just showing us what we all know lupe is one of the best lyricist ever but they don't count towards his round. The Royce song was more direct, better beat and, replayable. Not to mention funnier the line about not liking Niggas with big gums and little teeth was hilarious. You're grading Lu on a curve which he doesn't need. You don't get points if you comeback quickly but your comeback ain't potent.

[@BigChrisENT]

@@ryancoleman303 Lukewarm is still a bit of bit off when discussing something the majority of the population cant do. Its like saying Lonzo Ball sucks at basketball or Kwame Brown is a bust. Yeah its an opinion thats common but does that make it relevant. Now, I think general consensus is important to any battle. I Know I am bias towards Lupe, but I also respect Royce's pen. The problem is most people Saying Lupe's response is weak or Royce some how won are simply ignoring the rules of engagement in battle rap, ignore all the events leading up to and after the songs came out, and not admitting their Royce bias and/or Lupe dislike. As far as Too emotional? No one has ever used this as a critique in a rap battle ever. Plus if Lupe is too emotion wouldn't that Make Royce THE NOTEBOOK level of emotional every single day crying on instagram? then when he felt "ganged up on" he called Lupe a b---h and has gotten nothing but bars since. As far as the songs go. One person put out a written freestyle, the other put out an actual diss track. Any modest rap fan can admit that. If you listened to Steve Jobs alone and and couldn't hear nothing but bars with every line focused at one man and his team, I dunno what to say. there are hundreds of lyrical breakdowns on the web already i guess that you can listen too. Personally i like both songs equally but as disses i still give it to Lupe

[@ryancoleman303]

@@BigChrisENT When we compare professionals to level any critic is with the understanding that we are comparing them to their peers. Obviously Kwame brown is a great basketball player but compared to number 1 picks he was a bust. Thats a fair criticism. Now back to the topic I've heard every song Lupe has ever put out and comparing it to his standard it wasn't good. Which again your comparing a freestyle vs a well crafted veres and your giving lu credit for level of difficulty. There are no curves in battle. For Pete sake the Steve Jobs freestyle he rhythmed Motherfucker for 3 lines. Said he would slap royce in the face which is where the emotional comes into play. If we're competing the emotional person usually loses cuz you're blinded by emoton. And royce didn't call him a bitch said he was acting like one. To Totally different things. Means yeah lu reacted emotionally. The first 4 or 5 minutes was not Lupes best work. Not even close. Why is he being given credit for a average performance? No dexterity, lack of wordplay there was a weird kiss you on the cheek line. It just wasn't it. Go read Royce Silence of the Lamba and lu freestyle. Bar for bar Royce was in different pockets had substance (talking about the forces that only what to promote beef), wordplay, he checked boxes.

[@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID]

As an emcee, I'm highly disappointed Nickel still hasn't responded to Mickey yet.

[@DRWRITER08]

And he still hasn’t! Bruhh

[@dloftan5539]

@@DRWRITER08 and he still hasn’t and never will bro he’s a coward and a 🤡Royce and Joe for that Matter

[@miscellaneouslyric]

Makes two of us bro. This is not the way of emceeing 😭

[@galkahana9300]

If Royce spent all the time he does on them ig lives into writing a rap, he would have been done by now.

[@christopherengland654]

😆 instead of another 5-7 minute song, there are 5-6 hours of interviews/talking 😆

[@galkahana9300]

@@christopherengland654 exactly lol 😂😂

[@t-god2439]

Bar

[@Sohail410_]

He’s gotta his steps in! Walking round the house with the Fitbit on 🤣

[@guilitotorres9777]

Joe needs to stop looking down at emcees that are not millionaires or mainstream. Talent is talent and if he is a high level Emcee it does not matter that one is famous and the other isn't. Foh. This ain't valid

[@kaysanda]

Especially considering the fact that Joe was a struggling rapper through the latter part of his career

[@darkneji190]

I don’t think people should talk about this topic unless they’ve seen every live surrounding the topic

[@Moongod2500]

Ya even if Joe saw it he’d be bias to Royce lol

[@lemrphy]

Yes thank you 🙏🏾 cause a lot people haven’t, hell I’ll even say go as far back when Lupe and Royce would have convos on IG before their podcast jumped off🤷🏾‍♂️

[@raydahmenace]

Exactly cuz if u seen all the lives Royce was in the wrong

[@gabe2true]

@@raydahmenace facts. Lupe's original freestyle wasn't even about Royce it was to Mook and Lux and Royce ended up dropping a diss to Lupe thinking it was about him.

[@Streetslogic]

No.. 😂

[@JaeSproo]

gets destroyed by back to back disses by two friends he disrespected. *NOBODY* : *ABSOLUTELY NOBODY* : Royce: "I , I, I just don't like the ENERGY behind it." LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[@lulanononwo6276]

Ether was great I dont care what yall talkin bout.

[@LSDAPROMC]

Facts

[@tqdolla]

Average to me

[@presidave1931]

Impact wise, YES.

[@galkahana9300]

Holly shit I did not miss that crazy Joe rants and yelling. Just stopped by to see him caping for Royce. Excuse me? Mickey didn't check all the boxes? Lmfao 😂😂💀 the only box mickey didn't check was Jack in the Box. Taaaa daaaa

[@neguscharles330]

Lupe is different tho. I love & Respect 5'9 he nasty but Lupe is up there

[@Stefanjoseph7]

If people haven’t seen the IG lives with Lupe, Royce, Mickey, and Joe they was clearly jumping my boy Mickey Factz 🤦🏽‍♂️ smh Royce da 5’9 gotta come outside and ☑️📦 cause he got smoked 💨

[@t-god2439]

But then when lupe say “I say your verse to get into the mind of my enemy just to realise I gotta go thru you just to get to me “ you don’t acknowledge that hat line

[@willieking3249]

And I can honestly say Mickey diss was better lyrically than Nas on Ether by far!!!!

[@243entertainment9]

mannnn Micky completely destroyed Royce on EVERY LEVEL in that diss .. Royce had 24 to 48 hrs to reslond to dat. That joint was Ether ×'s100

[@superdopehiphop]

Objectively speaking Mickey Factz dropped one of the illest disses ever on wax from a straight raw lyricism skill perspective! I love Royce, Lupe, Mickey as on their A game they’re all elite 👽MCs, but I’m also objective! Lupe’s diss was disappointing from a lyricism perspective minus a couple lines at the end so for Joe to call it a Great diss is funny to me. Lambda track was ill lyrically, but so was Mickey in a diff way! Both fire but anyone trying to act like Mickey didn’t drop a lyrical masterpiece is capping or a biased Stan! Stop with where someone is ranked on a list Joe. Be objective not a biased clown!

[@MiamiDre]

The easiest way to combat what Joe talking is for him to remember Em dissed him multiple times.

[@l.k.9666]

Lupe's track was amazing.

[@superdopehiphop]

@@l.k.9666 Love A game Lupe as an all time great MC. It’s cool the diss was direct and quick but only a few memorable parts to be anything more then a decent diss.

[@superdopehiphop]

Send his little bro Kid Vishis who is avg AF to face a fellow 👽MC on his A game in Mickey? My God these dudes are 🤡s

[@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID]

Yeah, Factz will wash Vish'.

[@mindbully]

Factz ate. Royce chose not to reply. Factz wins. The end.

[@JOESPILLZ]

Ether was 🔥 stop it.

[@bridgethegappodcast5552]

They scared of talking bad of Jay

[@SuperSavageSpirit]

Joe always swallowing royce like a fresh glizzy 🌭 straight off the grill

[@blackmcbain3145]

2 things. 1.NOBODY EATS GLIZZIES 2.GLIZZY IS NEVER FRESH OFF THE GRILL

[@robp7174]

😳🤣🤣🤣

[@yourdestiney]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tembipowers4385]

Why no one talking about lupe flaming royce

[@dotlaroc82]

Because Mickey out spit both Royce and lupa

[@tembipowers4385]

@@dotlaroc82 i hear you, but not for me... lupe shit was super hard, Steve Jobs was crazy to me.

[@dotlaroc82]

@We Back u sound like a hater

[@VernorsDoctor]

Royce and Mickey Factz are on the same level to the general public

[@romaretaylor9953]

Way more people know Royce than Mickey bro, even some of my homies in college know Royce

[@VernorsDoctor]

@@romaretaylor9953 neither one is mainstream To the average person nobody cares

[@TheTinyTimmyTimTim]

This pedestal Joes putting Royce on is nuts. Royce is nice, but he’s an Eminem caddy as far as his career goes. The idea that you have to drop an ether to respond, as if Jay and Royce are even somewhat on the same level in hip-hop, or Royce and LUPE for that matter. Lupe is a gifted author and a monster MC. He’s made classic albums back to back with intricate concepts and stories woven into them. Royce can rhyme, and that’s about it. Mickeys diss was plenty proportional.

[@E1Messiah]

Royce been throwing rocks & hiding his hands for years Now he's been Called Out & Can't Find the booth 🤣✅🤣✅🤣✅🤣

[@RahSharpe]

I liked ether way more than takeover am I the only one?

[@andrewthegr81]

No Joe is a known Hov-enger so it is what it is

[@prettycoolPJ]

Most of America already agrees with you. This isn't even negotiable. Nas won that.

[@RahSharpe]

Oh ok bet

[@GoodBeardDay]

I legit turned it off once they shitted on Ether.

[@rahmanr112]

Same

[@BizisBarman]

Mickey factz is checking all the boxes

[@alonargus]

Joe is one of them dudes that can talk his way out of anything. However, when something is so clearly black and white, he ends up looking goofy like this. We’re all human beings, stop acting like people are gods and above everyone else. That’s mad corny.

[@Jmw357]

Royce talked the man to death and now won’t rap.

[@official6arz]

Joe looks hateful, spiteful and jealous.

[@TheAlphawolf6]

It is funny that Royce isn’t considered apart of the “nerds” because he got into it with Fredro for calling him a nerd on their podcast

[@jesusDiaz-oh2gt]

Fredro clearly was trying to downplay royce for technically being ill at rapping.

[@gatsuku2]

I can see why nonody listen to this show no more.

[@HerCCuzz]

Come on Joe Cape Crusader

[@neekcinco7221]

I think Lupe possesses an infinite clip for stuff like this... & alcoholic Royce woulda been on they ass luckily he’s a changed person

[@lofipositividad9262]

"Lupe still from Chicago tho." Is the most important thing said 😄

[@GeniusMrRemyd]

Lupes “Biz Markie” line was to highlight the absurdity of Royces ”Shoot ya Son …Sunkist” bar.

[@NueNues]

Joe: Did Mickey Factz check all of the boxes?🤔

[@galkahana9300]

Lol mickey checked more boxes that Royce knew existed 🤣 joe buggin as usual

[@fortyboi_q9286]

Mickey smoked him lol…

[@prettycoolPJ]

Fucking facts. I dunno what Joe is taking about.

[@superdopehiphop]

It was objectively one of the illest disses EVER from a pen game and lyricism perspective period!

[@m.weightman6446]

So Mickey Factz's response created enough wave that top tier battle rappers and lyricist alike all came to a general consensus that Royce should reply but he feels like he's so much more of an established MC that he can choose to ignore it completely? Come on man, stop it. So Bun B, Cassidy, Lux, Daylyt, and all these other rappers that hit Royce to say so just rap my G. They pens aren't respected either. So if it garnered enough respect from other legends of the craft why should he feel entitled to dismiss Mickey's penmanship. It'd be different if he was a nobody but he's cemented enough to have ghost written for other artist, create buzz in the battle rap circuit to gain fanfare, be included on off air verbal discussions with other world renowned spittaz to speak on topics in regards to mastery of the craft, and as of late has proven he can hold his own during lyrical combat. Seems like he's checked enough boxes on everyone else's list but Royce's. Just admit the man was nicer than you thought dawg, even playaz fuck up. And I think this was all Royce's Karma playing back on him. Accountability is everthing, and he's acting like this energy came from nowhere... He clearly respected you and was a class act despite the obvious disrespect we all witnessed tuning into that live with you and Joe. Y'all tried to humiliate that man and discredit his pen and he responded out of frustration and anger which most ppl feel like he had every right to do after y'all started acting a donkeys ass.

[@darrylmiller9643]

Joe is full of ....

[@mitchellmediareview524]

Joe is having this conversation with the wrong guys.

[@earthsuperstar1]

Drake is 1,000 slots higher on the rap list than Pusha T and Push destroy the boy.😂😂😂 Joe that this L.

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

Drake ain’t even a great rapper to me.

[@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID]

Same exact thing with Budden & Drake.

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

@@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID Budden is a dope MC. You gotta check out his resume.

[@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID]

@@SoulOfTheSouth I already have, been listening to Mouse since he was with The Triangle Offense.

[@androi1340]

Pay attention: he who speaks the loudest generally is compensating for something - in this case it’s Royce. Royce hasn’t checked a win box 📦 either.

[@Gcode609]

Mickey...🔥👍🏾

[@BrooklynISLove]

Lol Royce won't respond (he'd have to assemble the Transformers aka Slaughterhouse). That Wraith Diss was the nail in the coffin.

[@superdopehiphop]

These dudes all sound like biased clowns honestly. Mickey Factz lyrically murdered Royce with one of the illest disses EVER on wax (from a straight pen game and lyricism perspective) and they’re acting like Royce shouldn’t reply! Lupe’s diss is the one that was on his C game! Royce and Mickey both were A game! I’ve heard every diss ever from KRS to Common to Cube to Nas to JayZ to Pusha to Eminem to Canibus to LL to Diabolic to El-P to Royce to Jadakiss and LYRICALLY alone Mickey’s was the dopest I’ve ever heard! Tell me I’m wrong and what song?

[@daminharris3879]

Yo my dude Mickey shit is jus as good as any of da great disses of all time but nobody will eva giv Wraith da flowers but Royce got flamed sumthin terrible n tried 2 deflect da narrative wit goin on live smh Wraith was a avalanche n its 2 late 4 Royce 2 respond cuz at dis point nuthin Royce will drop will top it

[@superdopehiphop]

@@daminharris3879 Objective ppl and everyone deep down know it was a 🔥diss so it’s a classic! Royce (and every great MC) knows this was amazing and their A game would just make it debatable to objective ppl. Don’t get me wrong Royce is an 👽also but that’s what he’s up against!

[@mitchellmediareview524]

Mickey did his shit.

[@jayesoteric9106]

Who ?

[@ashtongreen6270]

@@jayesoteric9106 The dude that just got Royce Da’ Fuck outta here.

[@jayesoteric9106]

@@ashtongreen6270 yeah the dude no one heard about lol

[@ashtongreen6270]

@@jayesoteric9106 He’s being heard now. Especially after being mentioned on a rather popular podcast.

[@sonofmann]

Can someone name a better more technical diss track in hip hop history? I would love to hear it

[@vacaymcfallin]

Well, Royce hasn’t responded till this day so the track was indeed crazy!

[@lacedlaced8861]

Bruh what is Joe talking about? Mickey killed Royce lol the diss was solid💯

[@kxngamed4999]

Royce complains everyday on live, he says he is disappointed that slaughterhouse, Eminem and Joyner Lucas did not back him up. He is scared and wants someone else to help him diss Mickey facts.

[@NICKEYBLACK35]

Oh no, Royce made for damn sure that he clarified that he's not disappointed in Marshall. He's only disappointed with the Black guys.

[@kxngamed4999]

@@NICKEYBLACK35 He shouldn't be disappointed because he is the disappointment. He started something and now claiming to be the victim. He thinks rap beef is all about ig live.

[@metaf4]

When nobody responds to Mickey......it speaks VOLUMES. Ignoring the elephant in the room doesn't negate the elephant in the room.

[@goatstature8263]

Joe that mickey diss is better than any diss I've ever heard from joe ever

[@MrJustyn56]

The disrespect of “Ether” is on grand levels for this video smh

[@review-report]

*MICKEY TRACK IZ FIRE!! STOP FRUNTIN!!!*

[@ballsdeep6548]

RIP Royce

[@JoseFlores-ey9ls]

Haven't listened since the break up n came for this n this cape is .. Bless yall reading rhis and im happy if yall love this pod better, equal, less only thing is i love yall

[@Prime0025]

Joe's the worst when talking about his friends.. Everything he said was a contradiction

[@benjaminworkman]

After Steve Jobs (SLR 3.5) and WRAiTH, how many laps has Royce done around Heaven?

[@presidave1931]

lmao

[@mikejones8834]

I didn't expect nothing less than what joe said! Because we know royce yo man! D riding hard!

[@christopherengland654]

Damn, is that Cape the same fabric as the one Superman wears? ...because it's strong af

[@AkumaSF3]

Mickey dropped bars. He came in with the "finish him" mentally. Royce did alright. To me not up to the standard that I'm use to Royce doing. And Joe's new sidekicks look like well placed accessories on this set. Both are equal distance from Joe. 😂🤣

[@yourdestiney]

Royse can never beat lupe. Only answer for lupe is Eminem and that's a maybe. Lupe is the GOAT

[@yourdestiney]

@@Anonymous-vj1hs you got jokes. What you are saying is not visual.

[@cantala13]

@@yourdestiney very few people understand this truth and I mean VERY FEW! me and my bro say this all the time that em is the only answer and it will be a long day...for em.

[@DragonflySpecTV]

2+ years later and rhis shit aged worse than the contents of a Komodo dragon's belly 😅😭

[@lvernon9471]

Mickey rapped and Royce RAN away

[@roycuffee8387]

No matter how y’all try to spin this ROYCE GOT WHAT HE ASKED FOR! Y’all was trying to handle Mickey and he but Royce in his place 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@xavierseels7972]

The problem is saying that Bugz should be here and Royce should have died!! Now Roy wanna fight because Lupe crossed the line. Keep in mind that they were friends. The sun chips line wasn't personal like that.

[@jaredlhulum]

​@@xavierseels7972 there aren't no rules in dissing, so i don't wanna hear that. Besides, royce said lu respects white folks more than he love black folks; lu took offense to that line and said on one of his lives that him and royce had a heated argument on their podcast(Lu said that was edited out), because royce said that to him there, too... So Royce knew that was a trigger for Lu, not to mention, he called a grown man a bitch! Bottom line: we don't really know these guys and their relationship, so we are just speculating.

[@xavierseels7972]

@@jaredlhulum you right, I would have whooped his ass already but that's me. Far as mickey factz, that diss was basic as hell so I would hit the studio and sit him down asap!

[@abdiellopez9186]

Joe GTFOH. Lupe Smoked Royce and Lupe did too🔥🔥🔥

[@MosMoney187]

Mickey diss track was 🔥🔥🔥 and Royce is not all that sorry dog.

[@kassdremusic]

I’m struggling to get through episode 458. Im way behind 😢