Therapist Reacts to Girl Defined's Dating Anxiety Advice

[@MickeyAtkins]

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[@itsmarlow6640]

I agree with Kristen: the 136 questions are a great way to see whether or not you are compatible with a potential partner. If someone starts asking you them, run.

[@MickeyAtkins]

You really had me in the first half, ngl 💀

[@MH-wz1rb]

Reminds me of my favorite Emo Philips joke: "Compatibility is important in a relationship. I use astrology. If she believes in it, we are not compatible."

[@rosiejl2798]

"what is your relationship with your grandparents" - They were all dead by the time I was 2. Idk where that puts me on the scale of a good match. Of course I am a atheist and have had sex so that already rules me out lol.

[@Tink00]

I'm absolutely going over that checklist with a partner just to laugh at it

[@sarahsweeney7048]

@@MH-wz1rb Man, I use to binge so much Emo Phillips in the early days of KZbin. Thanks for this reminder.

[@eljayism]

Kristen: "Anxiety isn't a solution. Do not choose anxiety." OH. Okay, then. Let me simply cease to be anxious. Thanks so much, Kristen.

[@hcolleen534]

Just reading you comment has cured my agoraphobia, panic disorder, and anxiety disorder. I can't wait to fully watch the video...

[@bellasciachitano420]

@@hcolleen534 RIGHT LMFAOOOOO

[@marlyd]

It's sad how many people say similar things thinking they are helping

[@t_ylr]

It is so annoying when people like this say mental illness is a choice. Like you're right I just woke up one day and said, "I think I'll have a terrible life." lol

[@godisney999]

Omg im cured now 🙃

[@lossmoss7378]

"Have emotions?? Have you tried repression???" These women are a trip

[@imitationporcelain]

By experience doing that is what cause my anxiety and panic attacks when they said that I was 👁👄👁

[@stephaniemccord8677]

They need a trip, a shroom trip.

[@doreenplischke2169]

Huh? Uhm…🤦🏻‍♀️

[@jjanganna]

There is nothing more frustrating than seeing them continually try and give advice to fix these horrible relationship issues that are caused by.... their own advice.

[@MickeyAtkins]

Yes! Like just admit that y’all got it wrong and take the L! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Katie08822]

@@MickeyAtkins I think if they ever did go back on all this garbage, they’d just gloss over their culpability by calling it a Journey™. No way are either of these girls ever directly admitting to misreading the bible

[@od3910]

@@Katie08822 the problem isn't misreading the bible it's using the bible at all. It's a 2 thousand year old book about a beardy man in the sky it has absolutely no value to human beings.

[@Katie08822]

@@od3910 In my own personal life, I agree with you, but in a broader sense, there are Christians who use the bible to be kind and compassionate people, and Christians who cherry-pick from it to defend every single bad take they’ve ever had.

[@ladyv5655]

@@od3910, it goes in both directions. For example, in the 19th century, there were people who used the Bible to justify the practice of slavery and there were other people whose understanding of the same Bible fueled their efforts to resist and ultimately abolish it. Today, I know people who use the Bible to justify the abuse of immigrants and others, including myself who read that the Bible, Old and New Testament, requires humane treatment of all "strangers ". People find what they want in it, even when it isn't there.

[@sarahnelson8836]

“Is it good is it bad?” GIRL it’s an EMOTION it’s allowed to be neutral there will be another one along in a bit

[@sarahnelson8836]

Also mentally healthy people also have irrational fears sometimes… everyone can benefit from therapy to help them clarify their their thoughts

[@ZiggyZigQuinn]

I am a Muslim with Depression, eating disorder and Anxiety. My entire family never put it down to my connection with God. At the start of Ramadan my Husband gets our Local Iman to remind me I should not fast. Praying and Dhikr sometimes helps to sooth my anxiety. We are also a family if doctors and teachers so seeking medical help is very important.

[@gaslight.gatekeep.girlboss6476]

I'm so sorry you are going through all this, but I'm glad your family doesn't put your health on the line for religion, and don't shame you for that. I've had a similar experience with Catholicism. Take care!

[@LazyIRanch]

I grew up in a Dallas, Texas suburb where there are many high tech companies headquartered. My fellow classmates also had parents who were professional engineers, scientists, computer specialists, etc. Many were from different countries, so I had friends whose parents were immigrants from China, India, Saudi, Iran and Iraq, Japan, etc. It was a great place to grow up! In the late 1970s, a lot of Muslim families immigrated to our town and built a beautiful mosque a few blocks from my house and they were some of my favorite customers who used our print shop. Some rednecks hated their presence, but those were the people who never bothered to get to know them. A lot of the printing they had done had to do with their various charities, and I learned that kindness and generosity are very important tenets of the Muslim faith. What I learned about the religion seemed very sensible, respectful, and disciplined compared to christian evangelicals. People too often judge the faiths of others by what the most extreme members do. That would be the same as judging all christians by the few who murder abortion doctors and shoot up synagogues for their "christian faith".

[@curlyhairblacklilacs]

I hope, all these months later, you’re doing okay ❤️‍🩹

[@LivingItUp810]

@@LazyIRanch 🎯

[@breannankolb]

I’m tearing up at how beautiful this is. I hope your Ramadan was wonderful this past year❤️

[@AnnSmajstrla]

“Gaslight, girlboss, gatekeep, get the fuck out of there.” I need a shirt or mug or bumper sticker with this 😆

[@kelligreene5068]

I came to comment this 😂 I would 100% buy something with this on it

[@missmoxie9188]

I’d buy it too

[@notNajimi]

Needs to be on a sign behind her lol

[@harlowitter3060]

Omg I want that

[@mermaiddiyartist8119]

Right 🤣🤣

[@AMNmrrll]

Can we normalize dating someone just to enjoy the time with someone even when you know it won't lead to marriage?

[@rosacurci7344]

THIS.

[@dellybird5394]

Part of why people see breakups as a "failure" is because of the belief Kristen is still pushing: that marriage is the end goal. Sure she says it's still a success if you learn that you shouldn't marry that person, but she doesn't mention anything about how you can still enjoy your time with that person and learn more about yourself through that experience. It's just "Hooray you dodged a bullet! Time to find you that husband." She's still treating it like a failure. Just because he isn't husband material doesn't mean he can't be an excellent companion for a few months/years, but that doesn't jive with the idea of God choosing your soulmate for you.

[@JDMimeTHEFIRST]

Better yet, I would love that men would actually marry a woman for romantic love purposes and not just to breed . If they can see us as people and not cows, that would be amazing and also reduce ageism against women. Marriage for love, not kids !

[@Alex-zh2jv]

I was told by my youth pastor to break up with my boyfriend because he was a former mormon and not interested in religion anymore. I did, it was a huge mistake, and within a month we got back together. It was one of the best decisions of my life to disobey the "godly mentor" in my life. I have now left the church, and my boyfriend and I are getting married this July.

[@sidney9796]

congrats to you two!

[@sisuguillam5109]

Congrats on standing up against bad advise and for yourself!

[@MellowJelly]

I'm glad you guys came back to an understanding 🥺 nobody should get involved in another person's relationship unless that person is at risk of harm

[@caseyjude5472]

Congratulations!

[@nosoynadaoriginal]

Congratulations!

[@georgewallace6525]

I was raised fundie. I hated it. As a single dad, I taught my daughter different. I told her m marriage is not a necessary step in relationships. I have made sure she has a clear understanding of sexual health. Now I just get to watch a young lady explore her life. You know what happened, she is 25 and having fun. She has never had a real long term problem. I believe it is because instead of filling her head with fairy tales she had facts.

[@sisuguillam5109]

Well said and well done!

[@caseyjude5472]

Facts, and a loving parent. ❤️

[@ruminationstation4200]

You say it's facts, I say its the power of parental love. Either way, you did good 👍

[@mermaiddiyartist8119]

That’s so great of you.

[@lilren2021]

@@sisuguillam5109 we we

[@piros100]

Girl Defined: "Are you a virgin? If not, please explain:" ME: "do I really need to give you the birds and the bees talk or what?"

[@someonerandom256]

"When two people love each other very much..." 🤣

[@easternflower6476]

I know- also, what does ‘have you engaged in homosexuality’ mean? Have I engaged in being gay? Yeah, I do on a fairly regular basis… 24/7, 365 days a year- I guess I’m just constantly gay 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@cozycasasmr4510]

You probably would need to explain coz I doubt they even know what sex is still this point 🤣

[@katy4523]

"well virginity is a social construct and not a real, physical thing. So I can't really be something that doesn't exist" 🤷‍♀️

[@dangerbirb4981]

@@easternflower6476 bi erasure! Even the Christian fundies engage in it!

[@heyidaroo]

Fun fact, I’m watching this on my phone, so Kristin’s screen is very tiny, so when I saw the censorship covering the book, I thought that Girl Defined was trying to parody the 50 Shades book cover but with wedding rings! 😂

[@CatBarefield]

SAAAME omg 😂

[@melchol2121]

@@CatBarefield I'm glad I wasn't the only one! At first glance I was like no way is she recommending 50 shades lollll

[@JovanDacic]

50 shades of beige.

[@Mamamel81]

Lmao i thought the same 💀

[@Roanmonster]

Lol same, I was so confused! And I'm not even watching on a phone. Mickey, this was A++ censorship lolol

[@Prinplup15]

Ah yes, the perfect date idea: interrogate each other.

[@sisuguillam5109]

With the stress being on interrogation not on listening!

[@kiwords]

It has a double benefit: helps you “learn his heart” and makes it less likely you’ll be interested in sex. Win/very sad win!

[@lesley8655]

this made me chuckle lol

[@LivingItUp810]

OMG, so romantic

[@wowitsbek]

As someone who grew up in a fundamentalist church, Kristen's advice that "break-ups are still successful! Not every relationship is going to end in a marriage" falls flat. There is so much emphasis on "purity" for young women that even having multiple romantic relationships (even if they are non-sexual) gives you a reputation. I remember girls (around age 13) at my church just having friendships with boys, who were called "teases" and that they were going to cause the boys to stumble. This pressure makes young women want to marry and settle with the first person they date! There's so much pressure to be as pure as possible and do whatever it takes to be a godly wife, and although Kristen is saying now that having multiple break-ups is fine, fundamentalist circles will absolutely not be accepting of that.

[@parrotsontheplateau3488]

This right here!! So much emphasis is put on those relationships leading to marriage that when a break up happens people pretty much view like a.divorce has happened. Been there, whole church looked at me like this horrible wicked gal for ending the relationship

[@SabiLewSounds]

I feel you so much on this. I have come to realize that I am demisexual (might remember the wrong term, but basically I only develop romantic feelings for friends) and one very fundamentalist circle of Christians made fun of me because I developed crushes on two different friends. I had shared the "struggle" with mutual friends only, a guy who I thought was my best friend and his fience at the time who had been my friend since HS and at the time my closest friend. They all made fun of me behind my back saying I fall for everyone who is a guy and the guy friend supposedly said "she probably has a crush on me." The amount of pain and shame I felt for just being sorta kinda interested in two friends not even trying to pursue them was horrid.

[@akiko7298]

I went to school with similar fundie girls and wow! I met ones who believed you were somehow marring your purity by casually flirting with a guy (without knowing if you wanted to marry him) or having a crush on a guy (it was cheating on your future husband). I knew girls who rushed into getting engaged only to end up breaking up, which if breaking up when dating is bad, breaking an engagement is way worse! It was so sad. And now, years later, so many of the ones who got married are now divorced...or in abusive relationships and totally unhappy.

[@IsaRican810]

In my church dating in the teen and campus ministry was policed. To the point where you weren’t even allowed to outright tell someone you liked them romantically. You had to tell your discipling partner (someone older in the faith meant to mentor you in your walk with god) and then they would talk to your crush’s DP to see if the feelings were mutual and then they decided if you were spiritually mature enough to date. Absolutely wild let me tell you. Tried doing it their way and it surprise surprise it went to shit anyway.

[@LivingItUp810]

I grew up in the Catholic Church by a mother who follows these fundie groups. She told me that I wasn’t allowed to have any kind of romantic relationships (even non sexual ones) until I finished college and only in marriage. She started criticizing me about my body since I started hitting puberty, as if my budding sexuality was a threat to her just by existing. She wouldn’t allow me to shave my legs, choose my own clothes or wear any kind of makeup because “it made me look like a whore”. My father began sexually abusing me. I confided in her as a cry for help but she just walked away from me like I offended her; acting as if she was too disgusted to even look at me. She soon spread the message to other family members that I was a delinquent and that I “get around”. She used religion to justify her actions as she deluded herself into thinking just because she went to church she could be a absolute monster in her personal life. I believe she was insanely jealous of me, my youth, my intelligence and strong will. I got out and I’m never going back.

[@audreym3500]

After I've grown up in a fundamentalist, conservative Christian environment like this (and I'm still struggling with it, as I'm in my senior year of HS), I've loved seeing your videos about girl defined. It validates so many of my thoughts and feelings. Thank you!!

[@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you]

It's fascinating to watch people who didn't grow up that way interact with the ideas...I truly didn't understand how weird the worldview was until I got to know non Christians....as an adult. Whew.

[@firebird5265]

Yeah I'm still trying to find my way. I got diagnosed with OCD and bipolar, and now see how fundamentalism made it worse. Videos like this help me realize how much these teachings made my mental illness worse.

[@rachel_sj]

I grew up in the same way and I totally agree with you in that Mickey is kicking ass in breaking down these videos!! 😁

[@InThisEssayIWill...]

Some days are better than others, struggle-wise. I had parents who loved me and who meant well but even now over a decade later digesting mental health content can sometimes blind side me with an "aha!" Moment... Like oh yeah that was really effd up what they did/preached.

[@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you]

@@InThisEssayIWill... oh man, that is truly the hardest part - knowing your parents love you but that they still effed you up. I have so much compassion for my folks because they were just operating the way they were taught, but wow. The therapy bills are large and I'm only just beginning to understand who I actually am...at 30

[@MysticsLibrary]

Oh I see what my problem is. I've just been CHOOSING anxiety this whole time. Gosh, I'm so glad Kristen is here to help.

[@tsuritsa3105]

Right? If she hadn't clarified we might have gone on having anxiety disorders for the rest of our lives or sought therapy or something. We're so lucky she's here to point out these things here.

[@amerevoid]

I know right? So helpful😍😍😍😍😍

[@BeckBeckGo]

She's such a dolt. I'm actively trying to choose NOT to be anxious and can't manage it. Does she seriously think nobody has ever tried to calm themselves down before? She's stating these things that literally everyone with anxiety has tried and was unsuccessfully with and convincing herself that she's a genius for coming up with it.

[@maryanngllama7575]

Christian here! When I prayed “Lord, show me a solution to this suffering,” it lead me to therapy, despite me hearing “therapists are the work of the Devil.” God is FOR professionals! So happy I ended up going to therapy after a DECADE of suppression and invalidation from myself and others.

[@MS-wh7ec]

Congratulations on your journey! Glad your relationship with god allowed you to get to a place where you can accept help, therapy is great!!

[@cashwalk7253]

@@emilychristina3172 Christian here too-that’s what I always thought as well. Luke was a doctor after all 🤷‍♀️

[@Lilsweetings]

This!!!

[@SparklesNJazz]

EXACTLY. God gifts everyone gifts, and that includes the gift of being an empathetic and thoughtful person who would do well as a therapist and help others heal.

[@ouwebrood497]

When I was a christian I also prayed a lot. Went to different therapists. It helped somewhat but not really. Then I stopped praying and went to a sex worker. Suddenly most of my problems were solved. I still go to church and thank their for this turn in my life. Still confused if I consider myself a christian or not.

[@kaedekirigiri]

“Do not choose anxiety.” Oh my.

[@Prinplup15]

Thanks, Girl Defined. I'm cured! 🙄

[@sisuguillam5109]

Okay... I mean... if she says so... 🙃🙄

[@easternflower6476]

Idk 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’d love to get rid of my anxiety, but I’ve been choosing anxiety for years. I’m gonna have to think about that one.

[@ItsLexy]

Kristen: "Anxiety is never a solution, don't choose anxiety" New anxiety unlocked! Being anxious because you have anxiety! No joke but when my anxiety disorder is presented by someone as a choice I have made/flaw that is my fault, it wrecks me each time. I wish I could stop being anxious by just praying or deciding to not feel that.

[@rosenrot234]

I hate those bouts of stress. Just the brains going "WE ARE ANXIOUS NOW" I ask it why and it freaking leaves me on Read

[@hollyhayes9640]

Thanks! My anxiety disorder (GAD, or Generalized Anxiety Disorder) that's so severe that I'm on disability for it and didn't leave my house for a whole year even to get medication or see my doctor or therapist for it, is now cured! Because I can just *CHOOSE* not to be anxious!

[@LivingItUp810]

That would be nice if we could just pray away mental health issues 😂

[@frankiesayspanic]

the “godly mentor” thing really hits home. in my ex church (I’m an ex christian) we were told to not reach out to “outside counsel” and that our “church family” could provide for everything we needed. i was admonished for having a secular therapist. it was only during the pandemic (which our old church didn’t take seriously but we did, so we stopped attending) that was I able to finally think clearly and about a year in, I became an atheist.

[@soupsnakes181]

i’m deeply sorry that you went through that. i hope that you’re doing a little better now.

[@MinaOmega]

And this is why churches are screaming foul over the health mandates. Because not going regularly to church 'unplugs' the programming and people find things to do and believe that might be more worth their time and money.

[@WhatWouldLubitschDo]

I’ve got to say, for those of us who had the privilege of staying home for a while, some good things happened during the early pandemic time. “Everybody go home and think for a few months” would have been a great mandate if it would only have applied to and affected everyone equally. Anyhow, welcome to atheism!

[@ruminationstation4200]

@@MinaOmega I actually agree with them slightly that there WAS some weird discrepancies in what places were and weren't allowed to open that had more to do with their income earning potential than actual safety. But they acted like God was going to personally smite them if they didn't sing mask less in a church and that they're entitled to bring on Armageddon if that's what they want to do, and that's where the church crowd once again lost me.

[@AandM8]

@@MinaOmega oof. Never thought about it like this. Aaaand maybe that’s why I’m currently deconstructing from Catholicism 😅

[@maxinejohnson7695]

I went to a Christian college and EVERY couple would share their love story with the foundation that God revealed to them that their partner would be their spouse. Every single one. On the very first week of freshman year the pastor literally told all of us that we should be looking for our spouse while we were there. Women who made the very radical decision to focus on other things in their 20s were considered rebels. I'm STILL actively working on deconstructing and unlearning all those years of toxic religious influence, and that was 10 years ago.

[@stringtheories9820]

I met my first husband at college; we even got married on campus! It took 20 years for me to convince myself I could divorce him, as we were a terrible match. I really wish that there wasn’t so much stupid pressure on girls to get married o early.

[@SimplyCj02]

I'm a christian who suffers from depression, anxiety and cptsd.. even though I struggle with these mental illnesses it doesn't waver my feelings towards God. I've been told if it doesn't go away it's my fault but I've tried for years and years.. sometimes things don't go away and need extra help. I don't see why that is such a problem in christian culture.

[@MickeyAtkins]

Thank you for saying this! I’m always so happy to see folks in my comments living their best lives in their religion of choice and also honoring their mental health. There’s no reason you shouldn’t be able to do both!

[@rachel_sj]

My grandma always believed (and still does believe) that God works through doctors and medical professionals. My mom was more into faith healing (until she got brain surgery to remove cranial scar tissue that caused her seizures). I think more extreme Christians want to believe SO much that God can heal anyone/anything through Divine Intervention (when that's not the case and faith healers have been proven to be frauds). But God gives people more agnecy and tools to solve problems, he/she/it gave us a bigger brain (compared to other animals) for a reason! Never feel ashamed for getting the help you need. It's NEVER your fault for what you're feeling and going through!!

[@researchotaku]

@@rachel_sj There's a great video by Breaking the Habit that talks about this (basically "why doesn't God do miracles all the time") - one of the reasons is that God is often working through modern medical professionals, which people in Biblical times didn't have access to.

[@mynz4464]

@@rachel_sj that reminds me of the joke (that I will butcher here), about a guy drowning in the ocean that keeps praying to God to save him. A few boats come by and offer him help (I don't remember exactly who comes by), and he turns them all down because his faith in God saving him was so strong. So he drowns and dies and goes to heaven, where he asks His why he didn't save him. God says he sent all these boats to help and he just refused them. I just always think about that when I hear of laying hands or prayer healing, or those who say you just need to pray more if you have mental health issues. You never hear GD say, "This is why God created therapists!" It's all about prayer and a godly woman who isn't her, of course.

[@beyondallmeasure]

My husband and I are religious and have left so many churches over being told our health and/or mental health problems were lack of faith in God. Honestly treating our mental health and physical health problems have made us better humans. It's harder to be a nice human when you're in extreme pain (physically or mentally). It should be encouraged in religious circles.

[@stashtree]

The "acknowledging the green flags" brothers me. I think we've seen different versions of this idea spread by other fundie youtubers in the context of dealing with abusive husbands. The implications are horrifying. Yeah I had some good times with my abusive ex, doesn't mean those moments are worth staying with him for, and they sure as shit aren't a sign from anything that that was a relationship worth pursuing.

[@ChocolatexCherries3]

Yes!!! Like green and red flags can coexist in a relationship? Hell NO. the presence of red flags means the green flags are just red ones painted over and not informing young kids about this is super predatory tbh

[@elleofhearts8471]

this is extremely important! because the prevailing image of abusive partners is that they're unmitigatedly abusive 100% of the time and that there are never any happy or fun times to be found in abusive relationships.Thats how many abusive partners trap their partners in the relationship: with "the good times". Saying anyone should appreciate the "green flags" is just setting the stage for the inner dialogue of the abused partner as to why they are in the relationship after their partners has proven themselves we to be abusive. And encouraging abused partners to stay in their relationship is already rampant enough in the wider Christian community as it is.

[@LivingItUp810]

The fundie community are only interested in controlling you and manipulating people into their lifestyle. They could care less about teaching people about healthy relationships, love, treating others with respect, consent, or teach anything that might encourage a person to prioritize themselves over the religious leaders. Fundies are takers and they expect their followers to give blindly without reciprocation (or actively hurting their followers more so that they’re even more compliant to being taken advantage of.)

[@mirrortarget5729]

Agreed! That's exactly why some people stay in abusive relationships-- because they minimize the red flags and focus only on the green flags. Because they mistake those red flags for "hard times" or ordinary flaws in their abuser. I felt that way for way too long, always reminding myself of the positive side and trying to justify his behavior. Mega yikes for the green flag hyping people out there.

[@wholelottarosie]

My day is made!!! That wheeze at the beginning already has me rolling 💀

[@Donna2D]

I was just about to say the same thing! 😂 That completed my day.

[@MickeyAtkins]

Lol I almost had the wheeze cut out! I’m glad we kept it 🥰😂

[@rachel_sj]

Ikr?! It's gonna be a good weekend with a new Mickey video talking about Girl Defined (Science bless her for wading through all the muck though!! 🤣)

[@wholelottarosie]

@@MickeyAtkins please never cut out the wheeze’s 😂😂😂

[@gillian2325]

"i just have a song in my heart." adorable also, i legit thought she was presenting a 50 shades book for like a solid 3 seconds lmfao that was top notch sensorship

[@alixedoods]

The leaf blower is going off outside my window, I've completed the 'extra noise' trifecta 😂😂

[@jessicahamilton5021]

She keeps saying, “a relationship that ends in marriage,” which is cracking me up.

[@jessicahamilton5021]

Like, ideally the relationship would continue after the marriage, right?

[@daniellereynolds8759]

LOL yep she should have said “results in marriage” rather than “ends in marriage” 😂 a marriage is STILL a relationship!

[@YellowFreesias]

Technically she means a relationship that ends in death 😂

[@rachaelentner4290]

This is why I love my church. They encourage people to go to therapy. I'm part of a women's Christian group and the leader always encourages people to seek therapy in combination with prayer. I talked about my experiences with cognitive behavior therapy and emdr therapy to address my trauma. She encourages people to find the balance that works for your mental health. But it is a more progressive church so that may be why.

[@ruminationstation4200]

There are TONS of Christian therapists out there. And even with the non-religious ones, there's plenty of hard scientific evidence in the benefits of having spiritual practice. Most are explicitly trained in cultural competence (the ability to serve people from markedly different cultures from your own in a way that limits the biases that can arise and doesn't try to force them to acclimate). If someone is telling you not to pursue therapy or that "they" cannot be trusted, you need to RUN.

[@Wendy-yu3hg]

"if you're anxious, this can be solved by asking dozens and dozens of questions in an interrogative manner to explore your anxieties further, and overload yourself with more info by triangulating a third person into your relationship! this totally helps with anxiety!!"

[@kelliomalley4840]

"girl boss, gaslight, gatekeep" I come for the therapy content and I stay for your amazing facial expressions and snarky quips.

[@quixentric]

I would buy a mug with "girlboss, gaslight, gatekeep" on it, let's be honest...

[@LivingItUp810]

Me too! 😊

[@thesingerintheshower]

Hahaha! I love watching her face during these clips!!!

[@anaritadennis6005]

i’m sorry. i lost it when you realized their questionnaires were real and not a meme omg. 😂😂😂😂 that was too funny

[@FeministCatLadySpinster]

So I looked at the questionnaire, and uh.. 1. Are you a virgin? If not, please explain. 2. Did you ask forgiveness of your partner? Ask forgiveness for what??

[@pompokkko]

I can't believe the no. 1 question is included. 😩

[@Simplekindofbeauty]

All of your great commentary aside, I think you win the internet for using the 50 shades books to block her self promotion 😂😭

[@mylene_b]

Mickey is so funny XD

[@megj5159]

I grew up with diagnosed anxiety. I also grew up as a Christian. I would often feel ashamed of my anxiety because people would tell me I’m not trusting God enough or not praying enough. I would often get prayed over by the lead pastors for my anxiety to go away. It was extremely disheartening when people shamed my faith because I have anxiety. Even though I have gotten into a good place with both my religion and anxiety I still struggle with some of the stuff people have told me. I just wished people would have more understanding is all.

[@jenniferwilleybigg9385]

Your cat definitely has a lot to say about this.🤣 You need to give your cat space to express themselves 😂🤣😂 I honestly love love love cats. Awesome 😎❤️

[@MickeyAtkins]

Honestly! We’re about to start giving them their own live streams a la Simply Podlogical 😂

[@sisuguillam5109]

@@MickeyAtkins oh, yes! Please do!

[@mynz4464]

I legit thought at first it was my cat, and I asked him what was wrong!

[@alicianwinter]

“if not, please explain” 😭😭😭😭

[@MickeyAtkins]

Absolutely took me out 💀

[@lesliesheppard6112]

When you’re listening to this episode while doing laundry and you hear Kristen say, “choose not to be anxious.” You immediately have to rewind it so you can see if Mickey made the same face you did, of course you did not disappoint. As a women who has anxiety and the mother of a teen who has pretty severe anxiety I just want to say thank you so much for using your platform to respond to these things. I’m so glad that young people can see a professional say, this is not okay, this advice is bad, here is what could actually help!

[@Alyssa_M513]

Omg we need a video about the questionnaire! "Are you a virgin? If not, please explain." 😆🤣💀 I can't right now.

[@jkishhabi]

It would be tempting to ask them if they would prefer the story in the form of a musical, a feature length film, a diagram, or perhaps as a short, noir style film? Or perhaps all of the above?

[@R-rr1]

Why are you laughing?

[@TiaJonesiful]

I love that one of the questions for “discovering your partner’s heart” is about their sleep schedule. Definitely adding that to my ice breaker questions, “what’s your name? What’s your favourite colour? When do you go to sleep and wake up?”

[@ChocolatexCherries3]

I mean to be fair my current bf goes to bed at 8 pm... i wish i knew this before I fell in love lol😭😭😭😭😂

[@user-mv5zt8qd9l]

Imagine going on a date and the first thing you're asked is "how's your relationship with your mom?"

[@rebekahdavis5935]

NOBODY who has clinical anxiety thinks it is a SOLUTION! It's miserable and yes I remember when I was little internalizing why I never felt the "joy of god" because I was a sincere child who truly wanted to be a good person but I always struggled with anxiety and depression. So glad I started deconstructing around the age of 15 because this thinking is ABSOLUTELY AWFUL for people who truly struggle with clinical depression and anxiety. People with ADD/ADHD often also struggle with anxiety/depression and they can LITERALLY see that the frontal lobe does NOT fire the way it is supposed to, it is NOT an imaginary thing like religious people keep trying to flippantly say. This religious denial of science or willfully living in psychosis is SO DANGEROUS.

[@MH-wz1rb]

I finally left Catholicism at 30. The deep anxiety since I was 15 in my entire life, especially regarding religion, obsessive bahaviors... The thing I remember most is around age 24 hearing about "spiritual consolation and desolation." And I thought, wait, there's such a thing as spiritual consolation? I had to face facts that 15 straight years of spiritual desolation is enough. I left and haven't looked back. The healing process continues, but it was the best thing I have ever done for myself.

[@myconfusedmerriment]

I very much relate, being mentally ill in an intense religious setting is a bad time, 0/10 don't recommend. I tried so hard to be a "good Christian" and pray the anxiety away. I tried to feel the things that I was told I should feel. The time when I was the most religious was also the time in my life where my anxiety and depression was the worst it's ever been--this kind of rhetoric actively makes these conditions worse.

[@ChocolatexCherries3]

If religion encouraged people to go to therapy, nobody would believe them tbqh

[@ruminationstation4200]

@@ChocolatexCherries3 I don't want to lump all religion in though. HEALTHY religious practices which doesn't require you to submerge yourself in constant cognitive dissonance can have a lot of benefits. It fosters a sense of belonging, purpose, and can help a lot with emotional resiliency. The issue is when spiritual belief, internal psychological/physiological phenomena, and a rigidly hierarchal community organization all get intentionally blended together.

[@ChocolatexCherries3]

@RuminationStation my bad, I should have said if the way religion is set up currently. I definitely agree that you can practice in a healthy way. But most organized religion nowadays requires very unhealthy thinking and encourages abuse cycles to continue to be perpetuated.

[@LivvyBooks]

I didn't know the Girl Defined ladies were close to their 40s. Somehow this takes me by surprise for no good reason lol.

[@MellowJelly]

Argh that makes me realize how much they promote and embody the infantallization of women... cause they act and present very young, maybe to fawn or also to lure young girls into their ideologies and seem more relatable

[@katy4523]

Omg this has just completely blown my mind 😳

[@athenenoctua2527]

@@MellowJelly how do they present very young though? Some people just look younger.. I don't know maybe I just haven't watched lots of their stuff just a couple of Mickey's videos but I don't feel like they act very young. They do have that.. hmm.. I don't how to describe it but lots of religious channels(not only Christians) do it where they seem too positive and happy and just... Not real Smiling while saying the most vile things and giggling too much.. it's just obnoxious If that's what you mean by acting very young then yeah.. I get it.. I guess

[@researchotaku]

1. Those bleeps over Kristin's words made it seem like she was swearing a mile a minute which made the video 10x funnier. 2. About the questionnaire: When my then-boyfriend and I were getting pretty serious, we actually went through a questionnaire together (I think it was a Catholic set of dating questions - we're devout Catholics. Unfortunately, my husband can't remember where he found them online) and talked through our answers. I will offer the caveats that a. I was 34 years old and he was 39 years old at the time and b. we had been dating for almost a year and were seriously talking about marriage at that point. So, busting out such an invasive questionnaire within the first month is super weird. Ironically, as part of the marriage prep process for our Catholic wedding, we were required to do a questionnaire and I remember answering some of the questions, thinking, "If a couple hasn't talked about THIS yet, they're in trouble." 3. Regarding "just pray to God to remove your negative feelings": When I was in my mid-twenties, I was very depressed about being perpetually single (I had never even been on a third date, much less a relationship) and, one day, I cried out to God about why I couldn't have a relationship and get married like I wanted. I "heard" a voice saying, "You want to bring another person into this?" I realized that if I didn't sort myself out, then I shouldn't be in a relationship. I immediately signed up for therapy. I would not be married to my wonderful husband today (even though I didn't meet him until my mid-thirties) if I hadn't gone to therapy. Sometimes even God is, like, "Girl, you need to go to therapy."

[@annieboookhall]

Also Catholic here. I was in an almost 3 year relationship that started off great, but went way south after a while. The first person to bring the exact nature to my attention was my parish priest in an anonymous setting. Basically he said get out. I've now been single for 4-5 years, having been through much therapy and have some comorbidities happening. In addition to mental help, I also pray regularly and love going to Mass. No one questions why I do what I do (except maybe my mother, but that's somethin' else)

[@gaslight.gatekeep.girlboss6476]

Catholic here. I'm going through the same thing you went through. I'm a teen and I've had just one 4 month relationship that ended mostly because I couldn't deal with my depression and anxiety and mantaining a relationship, after that I've been having some breakdowns because I crave that emotional connection, but then I also realized that I desperately need to center on myself and my mental health to finally be on a good place to have a healthy relationship. It took some long time for me to get it, but I know God is not done with me, he'll give me what I need and want once I sort my shit out lmfao

[@trulyrandom2]

Omg I just told my anxiety that god said to stop it and now I’m cured ty queen 😍

[@elishamais9133]

Me too guess I'll cancel my follow up appointment cause Kristen said don't choose anxiety :)

[@pennyforyourthoughts4]

I cackled 💀

[@hannahj489]

You and the crew at fundie Friday’s are the girl power, fantastic, real world, honest, women and dude, who brighten my weeks. Thank you for being the reason I get through putting away socks and other fun laundry (your my treat during chore time)

[@MickeyAtkins]

I am*honored* to body double for you during chores! I also do this with KZbin and it’s a game changer. I’m happy to help and I’m happy you’re here! Thank you 💕

[@NixLaLoupe]

Oh man, I can't believe I chose to be anxious all this time 🙄

[@polydactylblackcat2218]

OMG, when she held up her book. I almost choked on my lunchbI was laughing so hard. Props to the editor!!!

[@pansexualdickhaver6878]

Yeah I thought it was real at first glance 😂

[@LeahBea14]

Currently in the process of deconstructing my traumas and anxiety from the fundamentalist relationship ideals… I have to say: Ladies, please don’t put all the weight on the questionnaire… his answers could be one way initially, then completely change down the road. Please don’t let that ruin your relationship. Your partner and you will BOTH change so much over time. Don’t be devastated or judge yourselves if your answers change. ♥️ Go speak to a therapist and find joy (not shame) in growing and changing in life!

[@elleeff5118]

“Okay so find a godly woman who you speak to about your concerns and your life. Someone you trust who can provide guidance. This woman should help you prepare for life and issues that come up there and in your relationships.” “So like a female presenting/identifying therapist? “No. Like someone who councils you on decisions and skills to work through issues.” “So a therapist?”

[@alicegaiba]

Please, never stop talking about Girl Defined, I love these videos soooo much ❤️

[@MickeyAtkins]

I don’t think they plan to stop making content that’s heinous any time soon so I’m on it lol. There’s just so much to unpack here! 🙃

[@christinabeth7649]

I'm so happy that you are getting all these sponsorships. I live in Utah (which the beliefs here often match up to girl defined) thus I can't get wine shipped sadly. So instead I'm commenting to help your channel that way!

[@ninakallenberger3155]

I'm from Germany and very confused. You can't get wine shipped? Is that a state law in Utah?

[@katelynelms3062]

@@ninakallenberger3155 yes. There are very strict alcohol laws in Utah!

[@ninakallenberger3155]

I really didn't know that. Thanks for the fast reply!

[@christinabeth7649]

@@ninakallenberger3155 yes its utah law as the other person responded. My sister lives in Switzerland near Zurich and my sister can attest first hand how different utah is compared toEurope!:)

[@jkishhabi]

And it's a crying shame to illegal in Utah because the entire state could use a nice glass of wine to unwind. Lol

[@manona2218]

What ? Anxiety is not a solution ? My life falls appart right now 🤣 I love your video as usual and I just wanted to say thank you, that is because I discover your Chanel that I found a great therapist so thank you for bringing awareness about mental health

[@MickeyAtkins]

Stop this makes me so happy I could cry! Good for you for taking those steps! I will be sending you so many healing, therapeutic vibes 💕

[@Sarah-ty5ev]

Unfortunately, religious fundamentalism made my OCD so much more difficult to deal with. I’m SO thankful for therapy. It’s made a world of difference

[@myconfusedmerriment]

It really is like pouring gasoline on a fire. I have a similar story, and I too, am so grateful that I found a great therapist. I haven't been to her for many years now, but the work we did genuinely changed my life.

[@balloonheart7]

I’m not even halfway through the video, but thank you for the validation, Mickey! I’m crying right now for younger me who needed this years ago. I grew up in a Christian home, going to Christian schools, the whole kaboodle, but I chose regular colleges for my education. At 20, I endured SA. My first relationship was emotionally abusive at 21. He convinced me that I was bipolar. I wasn’t. He needed a scapegoat. Later, as an adult, I was diagnosed as autistic. Throughout the relationship I was in the church, talking to friends about my depression and I was directly told that my depression was because I was living my life wrong. I was a leader in my youth group, I left out of guilt, because my ex pressured me into an intimate relationship and I felt shame. No one knew about my problems, my trauma, or anxiety. No one asked why I was sad. My family had the same reaction to my depression and anxiety. I had to fight to go to therapy, because therapy and the Black community doesn’t always mix. For many years, I was told to just pray harder, and traumas piled up. So, I have PTSD, and I’m getting into EMDR therapy soon. It’s been a long journey. I don’t really identify as any religion now. I don’t know what I am regarding that.🤷🏾‍♀️

[@skydaddyissues3884]

In high school I made up and led a purity class in my home. Oh bunny we had questions. We had questions on questions. We had books. We had “future husband checklists”. Oh buddy did we have lists. All of my students ended up fine I guess. 15 years later I was divorced and pregnant from a one night stand. The irony should win an award, right?

[@sabrinamoreira5601]

When she pulled out the THIRD book I died 😂

[@k74728]

The way I had looked up similar “questions for a potential husband” type questions when I was 15/16 😅 and yes, little teenage me (and him) did ask each other questions like that! And yes again, we were homeschooled hahaha the relationship did not work out, can’t imagine why 👀

[@SassySmall1]

The whole 'don't be anxious' reminds me of an ex-friend telling me after I went through some trauma to 'stop being depressed' Thats not how it works, it isn't how any of this works. Needless to say...left this friend in the past.

[@sisuguillam5109]

What a cruel thing to tell you! You are better off without them.

[@SassySmall1]

@@sisuguillam5109 For sure!

[@sisuguillam5109]

@@SassySmall1 have a lovely weekend!

[@kristenbarho7463]

Ew. Yeah my ex boyfriend told me when I talked about being scared to put my dog down to just not be sad

[@sisuguillam5109]

@@kristenbarho7463 the sorry excuse for a human being didn't deserve you. I am sorry he out you through that.

[@HGHgirls]

“I’m not going to let her in because we’re on a tight schedule”- *keeps pausing video to talk about the cat at the door* lmao

[@MickeyAtkins]

In case anyone was wondering why I’m late to everything ⤴️

[@pinkysaurusrawr]

Can’t explain it but you have very safe energy. I’ve watched a bunch of your videos (I love them, thank you for talking about these topics!) and you are so great at creating a welcoming space.

[@laurenconrad1799]

Kristin: Someone asked about being anxious while in a romantic relationship. Me: Oh damn, that actually is a really good question for someone to talk about...someone who is a professional mental health expert and not a fundamentalist nutjob. lol

[@mamabird2790]

I just died...you put 50 shades as her book covers? Hahahha

[@nerdoftheatre]

Yes, I absolutely chose to have absolutely awful social anxiety when I was younger. Obviously a choice I made myself and I never ever wished that I could just be "normal." Obviously a choice to get picked on for not talking. Obviously. I feel so bad for the people that Girl Defined targets. I was a very anxious kid and I attended a religious school. I would've been in their target audience. This absolutely could've set back when I went to therapy. (Which I didn't go and get diagnosed till I was an adult!)

[@Goat.Cheese]

The 50 Shades cover got me dying 😂 I definitely had to do a double take!

[@CaelTheWaxAngel]

I was sitting there like: Well, that took a turn.

[@CobraCreates]

Oh my god pleeeease go through with the video on the questionaire. Just that one bit you read through had me crying 😂 Also please never stop talking about Girl Defined or fundy christians in general. It's so cathartic to see people deconstructing and roasting all the harmful shit that spews out of that culture.

[@Mikabell]

I literally thought your cat meowing was my cat. Now my cat came in here and is meowing in unison for solidarity.

[@chaktirose]

Same! I looked for my cat multiple times before Mickey said it was her cat. Lol

[@Cheirosa81]

Kitties unite!

[@CorpseBride-hz3bh]

As a Christian who’s trying to get a degree in Psychology, and has been diagnosed with different disorders, thank you. What she is teaching, is what I was taught. You are only valuable if you are married and having kids. Romantic relationships are drilled into our minds as our ultimate goal in life. I personally have gone against that goal, and am much happier single. So thank you so much for speaking up about this.

[@JanetDax]

Faith doesn't mean you don't ever feel anxious or that it is sacrilege to admit you need professional help.

[@AidenFeltkamp]

The fifty shades of grey edit KILLED me. Amazing and affirming content, as always! Thank you for breaking this down

[@megaraphoenix]

Girl Defined would've pushed Anakin into becoming Darth Vader.

[@lopato3]

the thing with that whole "walk-around-and-find-out" way of "deciding" on a husband is that it's set up to keep them passive and confused enough to say "yes" to the first proposal they get. if anything, it's discouraging women from listening to their intuitions ie listening to God.

[@lopato3]

like we are perpetuating the archaic tradition of "kidnapping" women. women have no inherent sexual desire, ergo, must be trapped.

[@kenzelee5862]

Lmaooo when you beeped out the book names 🤣🤣 I love you and your channel so much! Thank you for all you do! ❤

[@MickeyAtkins]

I can’t even take credit for that one! That was all my husband 😂😍

[@kenzelee5862]

@@MickeyAtkins well props to him 👏 that was gold 🤣❤

[@jongkittae]

this girl saying "pray the anxiety away" really has the same vibes as my 60yo father saying all I need to cure my depression (& anxiety & adhd lmao) is going for a walk and eating better 🙃

[@gaybuffy2.0]

How have I never noticed how awesome your tattoos are? I'm obsessed

[@MickeyAtkins]

I’ll have a tattoo tour up on the Patreon in April in you want to see them close up and hear their stories! 🥰

[@CatBarefield]

@@MickeyAtkins you just sold me on your patreon ahahha

[@xristinas2767]

Yaaaasss

[@Sarah-ty5ev]

@@MickeyAtkins IM SO EXCITED FOR THAT

[@rachelb4339]

Wait you mean I’ve just been choosing to be clinically depressed and have CTSD? Omg I’ve been cured of my trauma and mental illness! 😂

[@juliemiller6966]

As someone diagnosed with OCD where relationship anxiety is definitely a thing, that grew up in the IFB (think Duggar’s) - this video hit home on all angles. It was actually the catalyst for me getting therapy for the first time, getting diagnosed, and receiving treatment both through therapy and meds. It was the best thing ever and we are going on 6 years. God forbid I heard from this bitch and got this damaging message.

[@ruminationstation4200]

With most fundies, I think *they* genuinely believe what they say, and just have such warped perceptions they don't understand how toxic their advice really is with these 2 though, it really seems like they know exactly what they're doing. Honestly even their dynamic together makes me suspect Kristin honed this technique by preying on *Bethany's* insecurities growing up. They're like a real world Regina George/Gretchen Wieners. There is a calculated cruelty underneath most of what they say to their audience (which they admit knowing is young and vulnerable)

[@TeaAndCroissants]

15:30 actually, my Aunt thinks her anxiety is the solution. The trick is she doesn't think she's unduly anxious, she thinks it's just normal worry. So she is extra cautious all the time about everything and she thinks that's the way to be.

[@Selene_Rosara]

I'm still watching this, but I had to pause and thank you for making me laugh. The idea of Girl Defined pedaling the Fifty Shades of Fucked Up franchise to their followers is awesome. 🖤

[@Gafafsg]

The fact that it took me a literal year to realize at 2:38 it says “are you a podcaster” and not “are you a Pentecostal” 💀💀💀

[@rynb6616]

This video 🙌🏽 my therapist does encourage my relationship with God, but she also gives me very helpful tools to feel my feelings and cope with the anxiety I have. I feel like therapy and religion can work hand-in-hand to help a person get healthy. It’s upsetting that some Christians discourage therapy.

[@Kathy.Cooksey6]

Your facial expressions are so on point! Your channel rocks.

[@parteh_kitteh]

In my environment people constantly leveraged "God made me this way" to excuse their own bad behavior but when It came to "God made me naturally anxious and predisposed to depression" that was unacceptable and you need to pray it away.

[@ItsLexy]

Yeah it's the same thing with them saying "God doesn't make mistakes" but then hating on people who aren't straight.

[@stringtheories9820]

Any behavior or attitude in my that my mom didn’t like (such as my ADHD or the fact that I don’t like PLANTS) she says so need to change and absolutely does not listen to “God made me this way.” I can repent of my ADHD? Oh sweet, I’m neurotypical now! Huzzah!

[@Sarah-ty5ev]

I’ll help her out: is it ok to have anxiety? Yes. That’s all

[@atomiccrouton]

I'd love for you to do a video on "thinking your way out of mental illness". When I'm in atheist circles, I get a lot of people saying that you can logic your way out of things like depression or anxiety or that mental illness is a part of the lizard brain and that we can overcome the lizard brain. This was also the advice that I got from my parents as well as hear a bunch that people can just think their way out of mental illness without medical help. It feels the same as praying your way out of mental illness and I'd love some direction on where to look if you had any sources.

[@atomiccrouton]

@Sarah K Shannon Q is the GOAT and I love her stuff!

[@Abbydoesstuff94]

I'm sure this has already been requested, but I would LOVE A video on what healthy religion looks like, both in general and on a daily level. I know that it would be helpful for many people like myself, who are deconstructing and figuring out our religious beliefs after a lifetime of toxic religion.

[@kami_flowerfox]

when you mentioned intrusive thoughts in the beginning, it reminded me of how my bible teacher constantly says "the sins beggins in the mind" or "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks", and then he proceeds tp explain how sometimes he'd have "sinful thoughts" and the moment he realizes it he starts asking god for forgiveness. it's just so baffling to me, thoughts aren't even something you can control, they just appear, and yet they still want to make you anxious over it. imagine how exhausting it must be to live when everytime you have a "sinful thought" you feel so guilty that you have to ask for forgiveness

[@sleepyycreampuff3214]

The way you explained relationship anxiety at the beginning was so clear and helpful!! I experienced this severely in a long term relationship. My religious beliefs/Christian beliefs on dating, ocd, and real red flags got completely mixed up. I was stuck in mental loop for a few years. Thankfully my therapist helped me through it and I’m healthier now! But at the time it was SOOOO HARD to tell what was what. 😭💕😩

[@skydaddyissues3884]

It’s sooo inorganic to ask things like “ok so I’m a Calvinist and he’s not. He likes cruises and I don’t. So no.” There’s no room for normal attraction, chemistry and you know, love.

[@hummuslover2446]

Thank you for bringing up OCD!!! I got diagnosed last September and I used to feel so confused because I would start worrying that my absolutely amazing partner of 5 years “wasn’t the one” but I would also spend half an hour crying imagining how sad I would be if they d*ed

[@dr.gwendolyncarter]

Using the bleep sound during the promo section was beautiful! 😆😆😆

[@macgirl1234]

Thank you for making these videos, Mickey. These are so helpful with my deconstruction process. I have gained so many great bits of advice. I recently heard you talk about how in relationships, it's not your responsibility to read your partner's mind and know when they're upset and fix it. They need to tell you what's wrong. You can't just guess. I grew up in a super passive- aggressive household, and this concept was mind-blowing! It was really helpful in easing my anxiety. So simple, yet so true!

[@robinwhite4148]

You've gotta do the 136 questions. You will lose your shit.

[@leahjorgensen1625]

This is the first video I've seen on your channel and your attitude is so relatable and approachable and fun, while your advice is already helping me consider and break down some anxiety issues I have🧡

[@pirateunicorn42]

god!! I suffer from relationship OCD and am recovering from a breakup that was brought on by my inability to handle my anxiety. I cannot imagine if this was the advice that I was given to navigate the world! it's hard enough figuring shit out with proper evidence based help 😭😭

[@rayay248]

That questionnaire just screams “I was never socialized with peers or others who think at all differently than me so I have no idea how inappropriate this is.” I’m so so so worried about my niblings being raised as homeschooled fundies.

[@floppsymoppsy5969]

I love how you kept bleeping out book information like it was straight up profanity!

[@lauradelrey2903]

My church helped me set up an appointment with a therapist AND offered financial help to pay for my sessions when I was struggling with depression and anxiety. They were also praying for me and supporting me the whole time. Anxiety isn’t a sign of a lack of faith. These girls have it dead wrong.

[@agarcia3986]

I love that your cat is in the background screaming “YEAH!” In agreement with you. That’s a 12/10 cat

[@Lesfaundez]

I’m so glad you said that about intrusive thoughts. In 2021 I was having fears about our house burning down, and my therapist kept trying to figure out what it meant. She pushed and pushed for a reason, but like I didn’t have an explanation.

[@MochiFowl_4412]

Kristen: “Do not choose anxiety” My anxiety disorder and the memory problem that came with it: [Phases out of existence]