Micro CineWhoop // AxisFlying CineOn20

[@Lawrence_R]

I have both too! Notes on durability Cinelog20 first and broke 8 prop guards in a couple of weeks, the plastic they use is just brittle (same as the cinelog 25/30) also once you have to replace the guards, you end up tearing and destroying the foam that is stuck on them. If running the O3 you can actually not install the top action cam carbon plate and rubbers as the camer has its own mounts bellow, saving a little weight. CineOn20 It is in fact slightly lighter and slightly smaller, (but slightly taller - i found it helps with the O3 install) The prop guards are the same material as the props, so the are flexible and strong ive yet to break any 4 weeks in, even in a crash which ripped a motor off. They kinda bounce back, although you can bend more props on crashes.

[@amin0_acid310]

Really wishing I had built a 2 inch cinewhoop instead of a 3inch now, but it works for what I'll use it for. I always enjoy watching you abuse a cinewhoop flying fast, hard to pick between this or the GEPRC. Thanks for taking the time to run the gears with all of these. Cheers!

[@BooFPV]

very hard.. but leaning towards this one for the gps

[@kitten-whisperer]

I legit don't understand why you only have 53k subscribers. Out of all the guys who cover smaller drones, you're definitely in the top 2-3.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. I appreciate the kind words. It’s okay to be a small channel, YT is a hobby for me.

[@JThemelis]

Hah! this was uploaded 20hrs ago...meanwhile, 20 hrs ago i started building my C20 (z20?!) kit to add my O3 unit! The kit was about $80 which included all tpu and motors, not abad deal...i have an o3, had a fresh board, adding crossfire for this one, and off i go - it's an amazing size, and will be perfect to travel around with...nice!

[@sixtofive]

Check to see if you have spectator mode enabled. They added that with the newest version, and if it's enabled you are rebroadcasting your video signal. It looks like in order to accomplish this, the quality you see in your own goggles suffers a bit compared to when it's not enabled.

[@MCsCreations]

Very good point!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

This is a very good point. Ran outback to check, but no joy. I also tested against an old WS quad with the old version of the firmware 23.33.16. Of course goggles said firmware mismatch but the image looked as expected.

[@yonseimatt]

Amazing flying as always! My main takeaway to be honest is that I'm glad I got the OddityRC Xi20 (This CineOn was on my list). Prop protection is much tougher (same as the Xi25 and Xi35 that you recently reviewed). Camera is completely protected between two front standoffs (no vibration mounts). Mine comes in just under 100g dry but I'm using the Walksnail 1S VTX rather than the full sized one. I'm really interested to try those 1305 motors on mine though, I've tried them on a much lighter 2" cinewhoop (one of those carbon skeleton looking things) and they had loads of power.

[@pandrews01]

Another great review. I do enjoy your presentation style and your candor when reviewing these quads. A frank, honest review. much appreciated. Thank-you for another great review.

[@tonymorgan328]

Another fine review Nick. Great flying too. Really appreciate all you put forth to help us out with fpv choices. Hopefully you can continue with these excellent vids.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you and my pleasure. I enjoy flying all these different options.

[@apachesmokewoundedsniper]

That was some great flying Nick, and a great video, thanks for taking the time to make great content.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you.

[@andyvasquez4392]

Thank you Nick for your dope reviews. I agree with you and like your reviews because I like to fly mine aggressively. I shoot sport videos like basketball and track. Out of these two quads which one flies better aggressively in your opinion? Keep these sic videos rollin!!

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic flying and review, Nick! 😃 I guess the prop protectors would feel a bit stronger with the foam added... Perhaps that's the difference between them. Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I would thing the foam would have a minimal amount of stiffness added, but it does or potentially does have an impact in overal crashes. It might tear the foam allowing the quad and prop protection to "slide" off the impact point.

[@BartManDude]

I have both quads. Many people stop by and ask which one they should buy. I say if there is a gun to my head, then I pick the cineON. Otherwise, i like them both and they are very similar. Easier to repair GEP but my AF hasn't broke a prop guard yet, the GEP has broke 4 prop guards so far. Micro USB port is slightly harder to get to on AF. o3 unit is a little lower on AF causing it to tip over easier when landing. Both great quads, but I regret not getting 2.5" versions. Just my two cents as I own and have flown both many times.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Nice, great real world information. I am surprised at the breakage information. I obviously thought it would be other way around.

[@BartManDude]

@@NickBurnsFPV Me too. Although, I have only broke one prop on the GEP and have gone through several on the AF. The AF seems to just bounce off of everything. Never a perfect solution, always trade-offs and compromises. 👍 Thank you for the great reviews man, we all appreciate your insight.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@BartManDude Thank you. I appreciate all the real world experience coming back to let me know and others that take the time to do the research.👍

[@yonseimatt]

I don't have the Cinelog20, but the Cinelog25 prop guards break if you look at them wrong.

[@3Dfactory57]

By any chance you can make a full betaflight backup ? 😅😅 Lost everything unfortunately

[@georgeaura]

I prefer the longer vids with all the flights

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yea I figure it’s all here if one choose to see as much as they like or as little

[@jimmy0tran]

Thanks for the review and comparison to the Cinelog.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

my pleasure

[@wmcewa01]

Hope all is well Nick!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

All good hear. You good as well?

[@wmcewa01]

@@NickBurnsFPV no complaints! Just finished my IGOW week 2 video.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@wmcewa01 Nice. Been popping in on the live stream myself.

[@matjazsega]

Hey! I like your reviews, but when you're reviewing cinewhoops, I really think you should include a segment where you fly them with naked GoPro. That's what it's all about, isn't it?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I would say “all about”. I have heard most want to see the fpv camera and it’s stability. That will then give some assurance that an external hd camera would have similar stability. I wouldn’t fly them aggressively with a GoPro or naked GoPro. To risky for my purposes

[@anung_raihan]

interested to buy this, wt battery connector do they have? is it xt30 or xt60?

[@barneyfromblueshift]

Hey Nick - big fan! Did you happen to see Flywoo put out new revisions of their 1S Baby Nano line? I only found out because I was having a heck of a time finding one in stock, only to realize they have a 2.0 set now and that's why. Any chance you could give them a spin on the channel for us? I'm very interested in something so little, but I'm not sure how the changes (looks like bigger motors mostly) is going to affect it. Either way, thanks for all the content. My Meteor65 Pro owes all it's hours to you. All the best to you and your family.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes I have seen the new product. Flywoo has said they have sent one for review. I haven’t received it yet though. Could be some time still

[@illuminatorix]

Would be so good if I could get this from a European seller! Dji o3, ELRS!

[@jamesbruno6648]

Good video. I love the hat!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you

[@genefoxgreenmountaindroning]

Good information thanks

[@VECAFPV]

Hi, very interesting review. Which one do you think is more capable to do a bit of freestyle? Thax!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

which one of what quads. I can only presume one is the CineOn20, which would be the other?

[@VECAFPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV Sorry you are right, did not finish the sentence. Between cinebot20 and cineon c20

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@VECAFPV I presume you mean cinelog20 as I don't believe there is a cinebot20. I think the cineon 20 is going to be more durable, so that is pretty much the major difference.

[@VECAFPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thx, I just bought the cineon c20 :)

[@bjalmoite]

Great review as always! About your lipo batts, lihv, do you charge them up to 4.35 per cell or 4.20? And on lipo, up to 4.20 or lower? Thank you 😁

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't charge multi cell lipo to HV/4.35 I only HV charge 1s lipos.

[@bjalmoite]

@@NickBurnsFPV thank for you reply, i appreciate it😁

[@bjalmoite]

@@NickBurnsFPV how many Amps do you set on charging your lipos like 6s or 4s?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@bjalmoite I typically charge at 1C so if its a 1300mah I charge at 1.3amps

[@bjalmoite]

@@NickBurnsFPV it takes around 30mins to be fully charged as lipo(4.2 per cell)? Because mine it takes almost an hour for 1100 mah for .5A😂 im worried about whats the safest range coz im new to larger quads at batts, my 1st drone is the mobula7 1s which your reviews are my basis, and also my new quad the cinebot30 that i also based on your reviews😁

[@hudpop]

Hey I need some help currently I have the FrSky Taranis Q X7, and some fat shark goggles too. I want to get into whoops, but would like a beginner best bang for your buck starter whoop. Do you have any recommendations. 😅

[@NickBurnsFPV]

With the radio and googles you have this is what I would recommend. www.racedayquads.com/products/happymodel-bnf-1s-mobula-7-whoop-choose-version?keyword=mobula7&aff=15 here is my video on it kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4Cyl2OObaaXo7c

[@Mr_Meaty]

How do you think this compares with the flywoo cinerace you reviewed awhile back, as far as agility?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The cinerace is a better flat flyer, but this is better at acro. That is what I see when looking at the two videos as its been a long time since I have flown the cinerace20.

[@damianwyczakowski2491]

Is axisflying c20 much bigger than pavo pico ? Do you have some review from mobula 8 with dji o3 ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

In the hand the pavo pico does feel a great deal smaller, by measurement it isn't that much smaller.

[@damianwyczakowski2491]

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks !!!!

[@ChrisParayno]

You are a beast to fly a 4s in house! Does this fly better then the up/down config of the sister z20?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Just a slow cruise inside, nothing super fast. I presume the z20 is a previous iteration, but I don't recall it and don't find a video on the channel on it. I have to presume they are similar but with no flight to look at or recall I can't differentiate.

[@ChrisParayno]

​@@NickBurnsFPV ah it was the z25 you flew!

[@edgarvalles]

What batteries have you been using?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I show the batteries used in the video.

[@doccock100]

walksnail seems to do well with man made scenery, but it is very smeary with grass

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I have a video coming up that shows the walksnail better, it does have a different walksnail camera in it though

[@doccock100]

thanks for showing goggle DVR, get a better idea of how it feels in reality.

[@jankucera8505]

noise is a bit too loud at times in this video

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yea, sorry, especially inside its a fine balance between showing the full flight audio and it getting to loud.

[@jankucera8505]

@@NickBurnsFPV not complaining, just noticing

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@jankucera8505 Sure, I understand.

[@Mupshot]

not IGOW approved

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Lol no

[@Mupshot]

Please send me some free pants. I cant find any after waiting patiently for them, so I am currently pantsless. Please send me some pants for free. Im on Telegram where you told me to contact you.... not a time waster, but an algorithm builder.

[@scu-dub]

I got the cineape 25 based on your review of it nick and I love it ! Imma fast flyer not really a "cruisey" guy either lol great reviews on these 🤌🏼✌🏼