QAV-PRO Nano: A premium micro whoop designed by Lumenier & Cinequads for the DJI O3 Air Unit

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The QAV-PRO Nano is an agile, super lightweight micro whoop that can go places and get shots that larger drones can't. It's stable in the air and easy to build with solderless options, making it great option for new FPV pilots or video pros looking for a small & reliable platform to take full advantage of the DJI O3 Air Unit.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:54 Use cases
03:33 Components & Unboxing
06:49 Frame Review
09:42 Design Highlights
11:34 Build Overview
14:53 Test flights & Jello
16:34 Pros & Cons
20:45 Other options
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[@eraldylli]

Key word for the video is "secure". I really enjoyed this 23 minute video, despite not really having any intention buying it, at least in the near future. Subbed.

[@colibrifpv]

Thanks a lot, I really appreciate that!

[@panoramic_life38]

Yes Sir you are right about the cinelog20! That is why I sold my and bought another drone. Thanks for the review

[@colibrifpv]

That's good to know, thanks for sharing your experience. I actually love my Cinelog35 and almost went for the CL20... but I like this frame better. It costs much more, but way easier to plan out a build and it flies great!

[@DanielPeckham]

Excellent review! Thanks so much.

[@colibrifpv]

Thanks a lot Daniel, glad it was helpful

[@lukasEgg]

I had a lot of jitter. Thightening the Screws of the camera helped. I had also an issue with the DIY naked gopro mount, there was some play because the screws were too big. Also added some washers there and now it is flying so nice!

[@colibrifpv]

That's great to know, thanks for sharing your experience! I had the same issue with this mount, and the lumenier Johnny FPV frame, which uses the same system. The mounts are too soft, but adding some m2 washers tightened things up 👍

[@cristian_c]

A great review from a to z.

[@colibrifpv]

Thanks a lot Cristian, really appreciate it!

[@ha-media]

Great review. I have the hurricane 20. It flies beautifully

[@colibrifpv]

I had to look the Hurricane up, looks awesome! I noticed it as the components situated in the center of the props, like the Cinelog20, so it's a little more compact than the QAV-Pro Nano, right?

[@ha-media]

@@colibrifpv Correct. The O3 sits on top of the AIO. Snug but it all fits well

[@colibrifpv]

Which would you rather fly? 🤔 a) QAV-Pro Nano b) GEPRC Cinelog 20 c) BetaFPV Pavo Pico d) Flywoo FlyLense85

[@Halphbaked210]

Flylens packing that o3lite

[@Lawrence_R]

Ive had good results with the Axisflying c20, Smallest footprint of this category, and much more durable and minimal prop guards.

[@colibrifpv]

I just had a look at that since it was just released the other day, looks super promising with the naked O3! One drawback about the QAV-Pro Nano frame is that you really can't do a naked O3 unless you 3d print a skeleton case or something, because the frame is literally designed around the O3 case, using it as a standoff...

[@colibrifpv]

I looked at that and the GepRC CL20 and decided against them because I didn't love the idea of landing on the O3 VTX, but it sounds like you have had good experience with it? Good to know, may give it another look...

[@eraldylli]

The FlyLens looks beautiful, but also very fragile, esp with naked 03. It is also more expensive. I'm too new to fpv to have the FlyLens survive for long. I use Cinelog 25/35 both V2, equipped with 03, but your video made me wonder about the QAV nano.

[@DanielJohnFPV]

For anyone struggling with jello - I found that I had some after a recent build. There was an ADC filter on my remote that was enabled. Once I disabled that, it removed the problem

[@colibrifpv]

Thanks for sharing that!

[@KcCake]

Fyi this should always be off. Quads should use the raw input

[@michaellongford871]

I think just like you bro I have the same flywoo GPS on my cinewhoop!

[@colibrifpv]

Right! Once GPS rescue saved me from losing a quad and now I put it on all of my DJI quads since the range of the system is so good that sometimes I'm temped to fly behind a building or a mountain without realizing, ha ha

[@MrJmc67]

Nice review, thanks. I have this frame and purchased the recommended parts from GetFPV. This was when they were offering the BetaFPV AIO. To this day, I'm still getting micro vibrations. Changed the ESC PWM, tried 3, 4 and 5 blade props. With the 3 blade props, the vibrations were bad. With the 4 and 5 prop blades, the micro vibrations are less noticeable but still there. I also tried adjusting the rubber mounts. At the moment, I'm not sure what else to do. ADC filter setting on my remote is off. I do agree the QAV flies nice.

[@colibrifpv]

That's too bad you haven't been able to tune out those micro-vibrations. I started with Drone Camp's cinelog 20 tune and adjusted from there. I also contacted GetFPV support to see if that have an official tune for this.... apparently they are going to have a RTF version of this quad at some point, with the LUX G4 HD AIO, and support is going to forward me their PID's. Whenever they do, I will post them here and you can give them a try. The one caveat though, is that it will be based on the Lumenier AIO, not the BetaFPV AIO, and I'm not sure if the Gyros are different. Anyway, that's on the horizon...

[@MrJmc67]

@@colibrifpv Thanks for the info. I'm more than willing to change the fc if this does remove the vibrations. I look forward when you share the PIDs for the LUX AIO whenever that happens. In the meantime, would you share your current settings? Thanks and subscibed.

[@colibrifpv]

​@@MrJmc67 You shouldn't have to change the AIO, but maybe something is going on with your gyro? Are you using a capacitor? I think there is one on the battery lead, right? I have heard before that with STM gyros are super sensitive and require very clean power. Here are the PID's from DroneCamps, it will make your quad less responsive, but easier to control in tight spaces, which is what I wanted... www.dronecamps.com/single-post/new-drone-camps-pid-tune-for-cinelog20-1

[@MrJmc67]

@@colibrifpv Yes, I have a capacitor installed in my build. I'm going to try dronecamps settings and go from there for now.

[@colibrifpv]

@@MrJmc67 Hope it helps, sorry I wasn't able to provide anything more specific!

[@jessehoffman5302]

you mention about a full gopro, but i could easily see myself running the Dji air 03 on that quad for the range/penetration, and still using my gopro 10 bones on top for the footage. I am looking for a 2.5 to mount my gopro bones on for pro work, and this frame still seems like it may be my best option i'm thinking. would love to hear if anyone thinks any frames may be better though? the wider footprint of this seems like it would handle really well too.

[@colibrifpv]

The scenario you mention was exactly my case - I needed something to run GoPro Bones for a paid job (local barber shop) that required me to do a wide to interior one-take shot, basically showing the location and inside of the business. My Pavo V1 wasn't up to it with its 1404's and my Cinelog 35 was too intrusive for the interior shots. This one flies great with the Bones. The "full" GoPro is more of a proof of concept. Yes, it absolutely can carry a full GoPro... but why do it on 2.5" props? That's what 3.5" is for! Also consider the QAV 2.5" from Lumenier. It's a super high quality frame, but costs more. BetaFPV has a reputation for not being as durable (Bardwell and others have called them out), but their latest gen of products is way better, and they have upped their standards and QC.

[@DeyRonUSA]

Great video, thanks. What the weight, no battery?

[@colibrifpv]

Don't know how I forgot that in the video... my comes in at 147g. That's with an external crossfire+ miniT antenna, Flywoo GPS, included battery strap, and foam landing feet. Thanks a lot for watching!

[@Lawrence_R]

Good review man! i got this frame and i get bad jello and and bad flight at high throttle. I'll try your washer fix, What kind of pids and filters are you running? ive not been able to get any info back from getfpv :(

[@colibrifpv]

Thanks a lot for that, really appreciate it! Adjusting firmness of those rubber grommets helped for me, and I've had other Qav-Pro Nano pilots tell me the same thing, but if you are getting some bad vibrations that's probably another issue. What props are you using? I bought the Gemfan 5-bladed props and they work great. I also tried the Emax Avan 3-bladed props I had from another build and they caused BAD vibrations, not sure why. I started with DroneCamp's CL20 tune and adjusted from there. I also asked GetFPV and the frame designers if they have anything official, and will post here if I hear back. Mine flies super stable, great for filming, but not aggressive at all, pretty squishy unresponsive controls if you are used to freestyle, but that is what I was going for... a slow cruiser I can fly indoors and around people. www.dronecamps.com/single-post/new-drone-camps-pid-tune-for-cinelog20-1

[@YarivGilad]

Hi! Great build! love your content!! Q: What is the max flight time flying indoors? which battery will deliver the longest time?

[@colibrifpv]

THanks a lot for that! I prefer flying 650mah 4s and I am getting between 4-5 minutes. Longer flight times are possible on 750 or 850mah 4s but the drone will be very heavy. Manufacturer recommends 550-650 4s, but I found 550 mah to be a little too short for my taste, about 3-3.5 min. Trust me, 650mah 4s is the sweet spot 😁

[@colibrifpv]

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[@dominiquef5ers979]

Bonjour. Superbe vidéo et je la regarde souvent 🤓 je suis entrain de construire le même qav que vous, avec les mêmes éléments, sauf l’aio qui pour moi est une Betafpv F405… avez vous un tune particulier ou puis je utiliser un tune stock comme betaflight 4.4 ? Je débute et je ne saurai pas pour le moment, régler les PID 😢… merci. Bravo pour toutes ces explications très claires 😊🙏👍🍀

[@colibrifpv]

Chapters: 00:01 Introduction 00:54 Use cases 3:33 Components & Unboxing 6:49 Frame Review 9:42 Design Highlights 11:34 Build Overview 14:53 Test flights & Jello 16:34 Pros & Cons 20:45 Other options

[@talknuff]

😊😊😄😊

[@MaxEdelstein]

Could I just change the frame of my cinelog 20 for this one ? Thanks

[@colibrifpv]

I can't see why not, but you may need to extend those motors wires, this frame is much wider, even though it is a 2". Also, if you already have a CL20, was it a BNF from GEPRC? If so, maybe just keep it and build one of these from scratch with larger motors? I only suggest it because GEPRC's tune is usually so good it would be a shame to waste it...

[@muharremberkozsert728]

hi, Can caddx vista be installed instead of o3?

[@colibrifpv]

Hey there, no I don't think so because this frame was designed specifically for the O3. In fact, it even uses the O3 as a standoff to hold the frame together...

[@kutdamuzk]

Great review! New to FPV and drone world, what is the total weight with battery that your using and time flight? Cheers!

[@colibrifpv]

Thanks a lot for that! If you are new to FPV this is a great place to start. Mine weighs 147g without a battery. That includes external crossfire rx, mini-T antenna, gps unit, and battery strap. I've used both 550mah and 650mah 4s batteries and I prefer the 650, which give me about 4 minutes of flight time. That doesn't sound like a lot but trust me it is. Don't recall weight with battery, I will weigh it and get back to you!

[@kutdamuzk]

@@colibrifpv Thank you I really appreciate your help!

[@colibrifpv]

@@kutdamuzk Glad it helped, best of luck with your build!

[@georgspandl767]

Your reviews are so awesome! One little thing is missing for me is the perfect Pid tuning for that whoop. Could you share your PID-rates? Cheers! George

[@colibrifpv]

Hi George, thanks a lot for that feedback, I really appreciate it! I did see your message (sorry for not responding sooner) and I contacted GETFPV support requesting the BNF tune in order to share it with you. They first said yes (I didn't initially respond to your message because I was waiting for the tune, then I forgot). However, Blake from GetFPV then told me that actually no, they won't share it, because it's part of the IP involved in developing the BNF. That's a bummer, but I guess it makes sense, right? 🤷‍♂️ Anyway, my tune is basically involves a bit of expo and really softening things down a lot so it is super easy to control indoors and in tight spaces....check out Drone Camp's tune of the CL20... it's basically the same thing and his article walks you through it. Good luck George! www.dronecamps.com/single-post/new-drone-camps-pid-tune-for-cinelog20-1

[@georgspandl767]

Thank you so much! You're awesome! Great to have you on KZbin. Please keep creating! Cheers George @@colibrifpv

[@charlessolomon8235]

Good review. Flight times??

[@colibrifpv]

Hey Charles, thanks for that! I'm getting a little over 4 minutes of slow cruising on a 4s 650mah. I also have 550mah but flight times are too short, barely 3 minutes. It's large for a 2", so the 5-bladed props are a good match.

[@Sfpv1994]

Nice review and fantastic looking whoop. I am wondering If the caddx Moonlight would fit into the nano or Micro. Do you know?

[@colibrifpv]

Hey there, thanks for watching! I haven't actually test fit those cameras so take this with a grain of salt but I would say yes, because this frame is designed for the O3 cam, which is 21.2mm wide, so those cameras will definitely fit in the space available, but you might have to rig up some spacers or use rubber o-rings. It could definitely be done though...

[@Sfpv1994]

@@colibrifpv thanks for your quick reply :) i am struggling to find frames for the Moonlight thats why i am asking

[@yorkeell]

⁠@@Sfpv1994 Finally did you manage to fit Moonlight on this frame? I’m going to build my new drone with moonlight, and wonder if I can use it with this frame

[@mobbmikeyy]

What’s that controller in the back in the right in the beginning?

[@colibrifpv]

It's the TBS Tango 2 Pro. I love it, great gimbals and super portable in the bag. I even have an ELRS module on mine 👌

[@mobbmikeyy]

@@colibrifpv you the man!!

[@colibrifpv]

Glad it helped 😁 @@mobbmikeyy

[@Bar2Fer]

Good morning, I really like your feedback and I have a question which is important on my professional shoots. Is this QAV-PRO Nano noisier than the Pavo Pico? THANKS

[@colibrifpv]

Hmm, they are pretty close, and they are both MUCH less noisy than other larger cinewhoops due to size and weight. I would say the Pavo Pico is slightly quieter than the QAV Pro due to its lighter weight, but that difference is very small. If noise is your biggest concern, and you are filming only with DJI O3, go with Pavo 20 or Flylense from Flywoo with naked O3. THe lightest quad, relative to prop size, will always be the quietest

[@Bar2Fer]

@@colibrifpv Thank you for this valuable advice 🙏🏻

[@colibrifpv]

No problem, you won't go wrong with any of them!@@Bar2Fer

[@Bar2Fer]

And which is more stable between the Pavo 20 and the QAV-nano ?

[@colibrifpv]

Definitely the QAV Nano. There is a world of difference in quality, too. The QAV Pro Nano is a quality piece of gear made from carbon fiber and aluminum, The Pavo Pico is flimsy plastic. The QAV Nano will withstand some crashes. The Pavo Pico will break easily. Quality/durability levels do not compare...@@Bar2Fer

[@DrDeez69]

Great video, thank you. Total noob here. I just built this quad with the DJI 03 and luminer lux AIO G4. I also purchased a radiomaster Boxer to fly with and figured out, that radio will not bund with the DJI 03. Can i ask for your advice on what receiver to get and how to go about installing it in the FC?

[@colibrifpv]

Hey thanks for watching! This is your first build eh? Great, just take your time and have lots of patience! I assume you have the ELRS version of the boxer right? You will want an ELRS receiver such as this one [bit.ly/HMNanoRX] Then you wire it up to a UART on your FC. TX to RX, RX to TX, 5V, Gnd. There should be documentation that came with your FC that shows you exactly how to do this. Get yourself an ELRS receiver, check your documentation, and let me know if it all makes sense... good luck!

[@DrDeez69]

@@colibrifpv thank you for the reply. I do have the ELRS version of the boxer. Receiver ordered. I will he sure to exercise some patience. Thanks again friend.

[@colibrifpv]

No problem, let me know how it goes! Also be sure to check out Joshua Bardwell's KZbin channel for some great tips and tricks on all things FPV, and specifically Betaflight setup, ELRS rx setup etc....@@DrDeez69

[@DrDeez69]

@@colibrifpv thanks again for your help. I got my receiver all wired up but I may have done it wring. I thought the TX on the receiver was wired to the TX on the FC and same with the Rx. I was able to bind it to my radio but not sure if I need to redo.i can switch em if needed. Did I do it wrong? The user manual does not have much info

[@colibrifpv]

That's the same mistake everyone makes, it seems logical to wire tx to tx, but it is always tx to rx and vice versa. Think of it as tx means "talk" and rx means "listen", one end of the wire "talks" and the other end of the wire "listens". Yeah, you'll have to re-solder those wires, but should work after that!@@DrDeez69

[@bendeguztoth6619]

Does the sd card slot accessible? Nice video, keep up!

[@colibrifpv]

The sad card slot is difficult to access, but they do give you a special right-angle usb cable to connect to the 03 so you an access the as card over usb.

[@bendeguztoth6619]

@@colibrifpv and how about the bind button?

[@colibrifpv]

@@bendeguztoth6619 Bind button is not a problem, it is accessible. You still need to bend a paper clip or something because the props/prop guards are there, but it's not a problem.

[@TimGnusmas]

why didnt you look at the first qav pro 2,5 en this version because it misses standoff in the front of the quad

[@colibrifpv]

Hello Tim, I did consider the QAV Pro 2.5 very closely before purchasing the Nano version. In the end, I made my decision based on the fact that the 2" was designed specifically for the O3, and the 2.5 was adapted to it later. I didn't realize that the 2.5 didn't have standoffs in the front. What advantage is that?

[@TimGnusmas]

@@colibrifpv i would think it bends more. But you where saying even een crash didnt braken so. Im not sure now. But im also playing to build a o3 with2 inch frame.

[@colibrifpv]

@@TimGnusmas If you are set on a 2" you could also consider the Pavo Pico or the Mobula 8, but those are more like fun fliers than actual filming tools. I have found that the QAV-Pro is surprisingly durable, but then again I don't fly it hard so my crashes have been modest. In comparison, I am also flying around a Pavo Pico just for fun and broke the frame almost immediately. The Pavo Pico [and I assume the Mobula 8] feels like a toy, the QAVPro feels like a solid piece of gear, totally different leagues.

[@Jun-FPV]

Tattu 650 is ok to use with this lumenier??? Or need more like Tattu 750 4s ???? Saludos excelente video que tal la bateria Tattu 650 4s o necesito una como la Tattu 750 4s??? Gracias excelente video 🫡

[@colibrifpv]

Gracias amigo, 650mah es lo ideal, he probado 550mah, muy corto el tiempo de vuelo, también 850mah, muy pesado y el tiempo de vuelo no es mucho más debido al peso excesivo. Recomiendo 650mah, es el "sweet spot", el ideal entre peso y tiempo de vuelo para el QAV Pro Nano, pero la verdad es que nunca he probado 750mah, solo tengo 550, 650, y 850.

[@Jun-FPV]

@@colibrifpv Probe la Tattu 3s en 550 pero a la verdad que no tiene punch solo te sirve para hacer hovering dentro de la casa y te dura casi 5 minutos

[@colibrifpv]

Oh wow, 5 minutos? Yo tengo los 550 de CNHL y tal vez son viejos pq me dieron tempos de vuelo muy cortos. Puede ser que los 750 te sirven, pero yo creo que 650 es el ideal...

[@Jun-FPV]

@@colibrifpv Que marca usastes la 650 y cuanto tiempo volastes????

[@colibrifpv]

Yo tengo CNHL y RDQ (GNB) y el tiempo de vuelo era entre 4-5 minutos. Los GNB dan más tiempo. Tambien hice la prueba con el GoPro Bones... muy pesado y no recomendado, pero tenía que hacer un fly-through para el negocio de un amigo. Termine utilizando el Pavo25 con el GoPro Bones. El Qav Nano vuela de maravilla en espacios pequeños, alrededor de la gente, etc., pero solo da opción de filmar con el DJI O3 y tal vez un naked...

[@the.hatero]

muy caro... por una merda de miini whoop

[@colibrifpv]

Tienes derecho a tu opinión, pero debes explicar un poco más... que te parece inferior de este whoop, en comparación a otras opciones en el mercado, tomando en cuenta no solamente el costo, per calidad, durabilidad, peso, etc. 🤔??