i was about to comment "why didnt you do the bend test for the hinge?", then i remembered that it folds 360 degrees lol
@SToXC_.2 жыл бұрын
lmfao
@E-hab2 жыл бұрын
Man.. you answered my question 😂
@drink_water.2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@hansaparkfan-epfan73752 жыл бұрын
Same man lol
@Error_code_10012 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@wotan23832 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the new hinged devices are going to need a twist test in addition to bending. Hold each half on opposite sides of the hinge and twist across the hinge itself.
@alec40252 жыл бұрын
Seems obvious that this is required !
@NehemYah8102 жыл бұрын
Agreed lol.
@KleversonRoyther2 жыл бұрын
While I'd certainly like to see a bit more carnage, I have to ask: what real-lkfe situation would this try to simulate?
@wotan23832 жыл бұрын
@@KleversonRoyther twisting a hinge across its axis could be a result of sitting on it while open on something soft like a couch
@KleversonRoyther2 жыл бұрын
@@wotan2383 good point!
@randaranatunga72592 жыл бұрын
“Like the tears of duo owners after seeing the price drop” Gottem lol
@blacklemarlonsofficial2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Mark_badas2 жыл бұрын
@@CanadianBakin42O looks like we found one
@FreshNutz2 жыл бұрын
@@CanadianBakin42O that's what a duo owner would say
@wildboyz3592 жыл бұрын
@@CanadianBakin42O checking your comments on the channel, you need to grow up first
@Not_Claptrap2 жыл бұрын
@@CanadianBakin42O "You kids need to grow the fuck up" Says the one who cant even keep it in his pants anytime zacks wife is even shown
@czkawka19842 жыл бұрын
"The sides of this $700 smart phone in 6 months are made from plastic" this killed me hahaha
@keenobservations30502 жыл бұрын
I had to process that for a moment to get it. And I agree, the truth
@erickromero85872 жыл бұрын
Facts f***ing Microsoft be charging 1500 for a plastic phone
@keenobservations30502 жыл бұрын
@@erickromero8587 they are charging for the privilege to steal your money
@Jaslath2 жыл бұрын
Pfft. There are some places where you can get a Duo for under $450.
@harushinwhatever2 жыл бұрын
How bout 900$ phone like duel legion
@arthurmiklaszewski62172 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with the software part. Windows in such a device would be awesome. Add another USB port and you have yourself almost a laptop replacement.
@NoNonsense3162 жыл бұрын
Even just a second USB-C port with OTG would allow you to charge it and use a USB hub at the same time. It would be awesome.
@Potatoechip2032 жыл бұрын
But like zack said if Microsoft did do that then there would be no need for laptops, and ppl would just buy the phone.
@DoctorNemmo2 жыл бұрын
@@Potatoechip203 nah
@Leona_tf2 жыл бұрын
Well, I wish it was that simple, though. Windows is a bit finnicky in a tablet form. Not to mention Windows on ARM has a horrible compatibility issues with many apps, since most Windows apps are designed for x86.
@ianfahrizal852 жыл бұрын
@@Leona_tf not that horrible as it still can run those app. Windows 11 also bring x64 support. Windows on arm need powerful chip as MacBook does
@mikebutler93322 жыл бұрын
I think android is capable of a Windows like experience if MS was willing to put some work into it. Samsung DeX was able to do it and MS partnered with them to make the office apps a better fit for it. Not as flexible as full Windows, even an ARM version, but a modified android is light enough for what mobile can manage currently.
@krisshietala21192 жыл бұрын
Samsung sex was a variation of Microsoft continuum from lumia.
@nekoyd2 жыл бұрын
@@krisshietala2119 u mean samsung dex?
@snookiewozo2 жыл бұрын
If you actually used Samsung Dex, you'd know how insanely limited it is compared to even Windows XP.
@DaleRossNET2 жыл бұрын
No, Android just isn't there. It needs full Windows 11 to get there.
@DaleRossNET2 жыл бұрын
@@1050-Argon Continuum was great, it didn't fail, the device failed in the market. Porting that technology to Android, no telling. It might happen. Or Android might be a short layover to a full Windows 11 experience.
@billdoolinofficial2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, "Like the tear drops of surface duo owners after price drop" "If you have a magnifying glass you can see a little clock there" 😂
@billdoolinofficial2 жыл бұрын
😨 I got likes? Wow. Thank you all. 🙏
@gdlywom2 жыл бұрын
I’m still rooting for these phones. I had their Windows phones back then and absolutely loved them.
@dantheman133712 жыл бұрын
I actually had a 2 hour long rant to my coworker once about the duo, how they could run "windows on arm" on it, and miniaturize the stylus to fit inside, make it a but thicker for battery, and they'd have created a totally new type of phone. But they won't do it.
@oneillc.84462 жыл бұрын
Chicken and Egg problem: Not enough duos out there to go that far because the duo isn’t selling well.
@Lorentz_Driver2 жыл бұрын
Give it a headphone jack and I'd totally snag one up. I'd love a phone/computer/drawing tablet Frankenstein I could fit in my pocket
@gamingpriests2 жыл бұрын
Every version of windows and it's programs chug too much battery life for a pocketable form factor, it's impossible.
@eiv-gaming2 жыл бұрын
They tried with 8 and the market didn't want a third OS. Not to mention a full version would destroy any battery life. Sounds like a fantastic idea until you have to plug it back in every 2 hours.
@armaan_bruh2 жыл бұрын
@@gamingpriests well windows on arm is pretty good with battery life just look are the surface laptops with arm processors
@KleversonRoyther2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jerry, it'd be interesting if you did a bend test with the screens folded outside. I imagine people may leave the phone unfolded while in the pocket to respond more quickly to calls and it doesn't seem like it's gonna handle it too well
@nemiesis2 жыл бұрын
His name is Zack :)
@KleversonRoyther2 жыл бұрын
@@nemiesis it's a meme, bro. He even does it himself sometimes
@Dimondminer112 жыл бұрын
I dont think you realize how large this thing is unfolded. You can only fit it into large guy pockets fully unfolded
@KleversonRoyther2 жыл бұрын
@@Dimondminer11 I don't mean unfolded (non-native English speaker, sorry), but folded all the way so that the screens are exposed
@nalistergaming76582 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment the same thing. It feels like half the vid is missing without it.
@Xshunin2 жыл бұрын
I am also a Duo 2 owner and I love it so far. If people want small sized Windows PCs, why isn't GPD as successful as they would be if this was true? Don't get me wrong, I also love GPD devices but I prefer something between 10-12" for mobile Windows.
@Tiamorg2 жыл бұрын
The ones that like gpd products - buy them. And in "niche handheld/umpc" devices, gpd has a pretty good succes. You sure can't compare the number of people who will buy lenovo legion 5 for 1k usd and play games on high settings with people that will spend the same 1k usd for a umpc with "draws" that comes with small size. And i have the ms duo 1. Got it on high price cut, and i love the design as much as i hate the software.
@me2olive2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, exactly this. The Dell Venue 8 was probably the best known 8" Windows tablet when it launched, but Dell don't sell anything that small now. Even Microsoft's own Surface Go's screen has grown from its initial 10". Full fat Windows apps just aren't designed for screens that small, hence we got touch-friendly UWP apps... which did the same things Android apps did only worse. Outside of specialist devices like the GPD or Steam Deck, I don't see small screened Windows devices making a comeback.
@vladdx2 жыл бұрын
Does GPD offer 5G, or even 4G? If not, it's not really comparable.
@Dare2Blink2 жыл бұрын
Jerry two things: you can easily leave the phone oppened in your pocket if you dont want to open it. Also outti g full fledged windows on a device this small is just no realistic for a couple of reasons. Firdt snd foremkst windows obviousky was not designed for screens this small and wiuld never be usable, notto mention all windkws programs that also were not designed for small screens. Therefore your proposition is a non starter. Microsoft would love to be able to their own software on a pocketable device that is what windows phone was for. Unfortunately lack of developer suport killed it. I am a surface duo 2 owner and i absolutely love it. It definitely does not have bugs like the first one had. I came from a candy phone android device straight to this and its awasome. Its exactly like the dual screen analogy you mentioned.
@ryu_7982 жыл бұрын
GDP? I've never heard of it, nor seen this being sold in my country.
@SalemTechsperts2 жыл бұрын
To answer your question, yes, I would absolutely rock a pocket laptop. I think that's where mobile tech is inevitably evolving towards anyways, but, like you, I think this process is being stalled because it would cannibalize their already existing mobile laptop market. Kind of like why Apple still doesn't have a touchscreen MacBook.
@henrychua74512 жыл бұрын
If LG didn't pulled out of the phone game, they can match this with their cover with matching 2nd screen at a much, MUCH cheaper price.
@maanavtriestuff2 жыл бұрын
True
@th3juic3man2 жыл бұрын
Agreed💯
@gregoriolorenzo87712 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't match the desing and the hardware quality though
@corktail79002 жыл бұрын
they were so close but had to make the screen with rounded corners
@vladdx2 жыл бұрын
I would prefer a rollable phone over a foldable and LG who invented rollables could've definitely pulled it off
@mollerbt2 жыл бұрын
A full Windows experience on a device like this would be absolutely sick! I can see if standing up vertically, text document on one side, research articles on the other. As well as connected to an external monitor via HDMI. That would be sick
@mirek1902 жыл бұрын
Widows on mobile device ??? Haha .... they tried windows 8 / 10 mobile and was really bad to use .... Not proper designated 99.99% apps for touch and worse dual screen. Windows is good only with keyboard and mouse.... a lots of memory and fast CPU.
@Emerald_Night2 жыл бұрын
@@mirek190 I have a laptop with a 7" screen that runs full Windows 10; it runs well enough for basic tasks. It's also not even the most powerful device of that size available. Microsoft Duo would essentially just be replacing the keyboard with another screen. Win 8 and Win 10 mobile were far from the same as Windows on desktop. Using that as a comparison is a meme and a half.
@mirek1902 жыл бұрын
@@Emerald_Night Windows 10 desktop on 7 inch screen ...basic tasks ..suuuure. No counting that 99 % desktop apps are not designed for small screen . ...no comment ... It's masochism.
@divyangverma98802 жыл бұрын
@@mirek190 but you do realise windows 11 can use Android apps on it's operating system.
@mirek1902 жыл бұрын
@@divyangverma9880 x86 android apps compatibility is poor ...and not count you can't use Google play .
@muditahlawat2 жыл бұрын
7:47 "The corning glass is the only thing holding this thing together cuz It sure isn't android." I actually laughed out loud on thaat😂
@AverageAlien2 жыл бұрын
What?
@splashkid0072 жыл бұрын
He said "cus is sure is an Android" turn on "CC" for subtitle 👍
@themisterx86602 жыл бұрын
@@splashkid007 Subtitles also say "mircrosoft surface 202"... they aren´t that trustworthy, because they are auto-generated
@thaer_me2 жыл бұрын
Same
@splashkid0072 жыл бұрын
@@themisterx8660 Well that's also plausible,but i believe it got the first one correctly 👌
@HeartFire_2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I prefer the duo concept with two screens and a hinge over the folding plastic displays, like yeah its a cool gimmick and sure the break in the screen is a bit of a bummer. But I know a plastic display wouldn't last a week for me without getting scratched and that's just not something I could get behind
@Coda-Ch.2 жыл бұрын
I personally would buy this instantly if it had full windows experience. Would be such a useful phone for work. Android is definitely holding this back. Then again, MS hasn't even made the phone available here so...
@Funnyandcutepets_2 жыл бұрын
If you need a phone for work ios would do much better than shitdroid. I owe both tho (ios & android)
@dreamsider2 жыл бұрын
They were going to make a windows 10x for a device like this called surface neo, but seems like they scrapped it.
@Coda-Ch.2 жыл бұрын
@@dreamsider yeah sadly so. I was really looking forward to it.
@jasimaneesahamed10332 жыл бұрын
@@dreamsider Exactly, because Windows 10X's fate itself was uncertain The Surface Neo is basically a bigger and better Surface Duo. I do hope they plan on releasing the Surface Neo with like Windows 11 and an x64 CPU (or a powerful ARM CPU)
@Coda-Ch.2 жыл бұрын
@@Funnyandcutepets_ you must be kidding, right? I have Apple devices and I love them, but they wouldn't work nearly as well in a work environment like mine. Android can be shit, but so can iOS. They both have very big problems, but I would never use an iPhone at my work.
@LionelGeek2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I currently rock a Z fold 3... it's been great, and has held up well. After using it for a year though, still think I'd find multitasking Microsoft's dual-screen setup more effective. I'll wait to see what the Suface Duo 3 brings to the table later this year (or in 2023).
@vladdx2 жыл бұрын
I own a Mate 40 along with a MateView, desktop mode on a phone is a really great feature to have. I use it pretty much every day.
@Dimondminer112 жыл бұрын
samsung also has a similar thing; Dex
@vladdx2 жыл бұрын
@@Dimondminer11 Yeah I know, I actually tested Samsung DEX on my MateView using a pal's Samsung phone. Huawei has an advantage though when connecting wireless, it uses it's own protocol which supports native 3840x2560 resolution while Samsung DEX is limited to 1080p.
@sayididit29302 жыл бұрын
I don't think Android is holding Microsoft back. I think Microsoft can't get their act together and optimize Android for their needs. Other companies managed to do it and Android is pretty solid.
@hachimaki472 жыл бұрын
Yea.. im sure you'll going to have a very bad time if its run windows with that spec even with windows rt..
@sayididit29302 жыл бұрын
@@VISHVplus I'm not familiar with that specifically, but Samsung, Motorola, Huawei and (heck, even novice) Royle have managed to produce fully functioning devices. And even closer to the Duo is LG with their Dual Display case (which wasn't even physically attached to the device) and did not suffer from the problems Microsoft is having with both Duo 1 and Duo 2.
@YasinHasan2 жыл бұрын
true BUT windows is way better
@sayididit29302 жыл бұрын
@@YasinHasan I like Windows a lot but recently I've been using my Android smartphone for everything and basically don't use my computer anymore. I guess if I needed to do real graphics or editing (basic I do in my phone and works great) I'll need to get out my PC
@sayididit29302 жыл бұрын
@Kenny Kolodor I was referring to Android and foldable devices. Samsung, Motorola, Huawei, OPPO, LG and others managed to make decent (or great) foldable phones on Android while Microsoft can't seem to pull it off.
@MrM3drvr2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for that exact thing myself Jerry. A tablet or dual screen device of this size running full fledged windows. Productivity king and i could replace nearly all devices with that single one since its so much more capable. Having a 4G or 5G connectivity with windows in a nice package would be awesome especially now with windows 11 enhancements to touch.
@TheArQu2 жыл бұрын
I guess you gotta get not-that-smol surface now
@faizanqasim44992 жыл бұрын
Bro you have handheld touch full fledge windows 11 with mobile graphics cards available
@MrM3drvr2 жыл бұрын
@@faizanqasim4499 not anything worth pocketing and using for daily use.
@starflyr572 жыл бұрын
and windows 11 running Android apps
@MrM3drvr2 жыл бұрын
@@starflyr57 personally I couldn't care less about android apps. They're basically is a native app or webpage for everything already. Android apps are at the very bottom of the list of things to be excited for with windows 11
@scaryifliteral2 жыл бұрын
Hard disagree on "is as finicky as Duo 1," otherwise great stuff. It held up pretty well!
@alannotemo28352 жыл бұрын
Jerry rigs everything more like jerry breaks everything😂
@A1452 жыл бұрын
@@breadcraft3605 ummm any problem?
@DemonDog172 жыл бұрын
@@breadcraft3605 roblox pfp
@quietflint12 жыл бұрын
@@breadcraft3605 haha that's true mate
@Doman91912 жыл бұрын
@@DemonDog17 bro theres literally shit on your pfp
@samlung27242 жыл бұрын
He rigs things to break
@beans00222 жыл бұрын
Your Art Class With Jerry Tshirt is amazing, although you need to get your drawing of Mewtwo on there!
@soufiwail53372 жыл бұрын
Zack just fired the whole Surface duo 2 software engineering team haha
@awesomesauce81512 жыл бұрын
Android is open source and fully customizable. If Microsoft wanted a smooth running Duo with Android you'd have a smooth running Duo with Android. They just don't put the effort into it
@bocahdongo77692 жыл бұрын
Microsoft Android already improve a lot before this one is release. The problem now is for the 3rd party app
@benjaminballa57832 жыл бұрын
Remember the time they made windows mobile lol
@alex150952 жыл бұрын
Didn't Google prohibit vendors from forking Android or else they can't have Google services on their phones?
@awesomesauce81512 жыл бұрын
@@alex15095 I don't think u know what fork means
@Tomcoma28322 жыл бұрын
I really like the no screen when folded. Most people buying a $1400 phone are going to have a smart watch and can use that to view notifications
@mahfudmahmuddin31612 жыл бұрын
Most high end phone users like would rather use high end automatic watches compared to smart watches
@masterquake72 жыл бұрын
I really like my Duo 2 so far, software oddities aside. The software bugs are nothing huge. I like that this is different, and the screen aspect ratio feels better than the ultra wide of most phones. That long, skinny brick design is getting old. I don't mind at all that the phone needs to open to answer. It auto answers if you flip the second screen all the way around. Being that it feels like a book, reading books or comics on this thing feels great. If there was one real criticism from me it is that the default Microsoft keyboard, which you basically have to use, leaves a bit to be desired and needs more customization options.
@paullasky68652 жыл бұрын
Why can't you use the Google keyboard?
@zoladkow2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! It would be amazing to have an actual Windows machine this size! I sometimes use the Dex mode on my S10 and I always wish it was actual Windows OS... or at least pure Linux desktop xD
@mirek1902 жыл бұрын
Widows on mobile device ??? Haha .... they tried windows 8 / 10 mobile and was really bad to use .... Not proper designated 99.99% apps for touch and worse dual screen. Windows is good only with keyboard and mouse.... a lots of memory and fast CPU.
@10p62 жыл бұрын
The Duo not having Windows as you mention, is the same as Google Phones not allowing HDMI to protect Chromebook sales, even though every chipset (minus Pixel 6) used in Nexus and Pixel phones supported HDMI out which Google disabled.
@jaws102782 жыл бұрын
I agree about Android on this phone. They should bring Windows Phone OS back!
@redstone_orange2 жыл бұрын
@Weemizo yes and no. Microsoft is known for the fact that that they bring out good and then bad and then good operating systems. Microsoft can learn from there old mistakes and make a Windows phone OS that is as good as Windows 7/10
@gregoriolorenzo87712 жыл бұрын
@Weemizo It really wasn't. I've had 3 windows smartphones with pretty humble configurations and they worked flawlessly (at least performance wise).
@faisal-nl2vf2 жыл бұрын
@Weemizo Nope. The only problem was the lack of apps. And most OSs today are inspired by windows phone and windows 8's flat UI, so MS was way ahead of their time
@vladdx2 жыл бұрын
Only if they can pull of x86 emulation properly
@kurts.51402 жыл бұрын
I know it'll be similar, but I can't wait for the teardown. I'd be interested if you test the water proofing to see if it can withstand something higher than its rating. And or if there's a way to water proof it I could do if I get the phone! Excited for a teardown tho
@fortheloveofmusicandphilosophy2 жыл бұрын
It still baffles me, that in times where being environmentally friendly, companies refuse to work on a 1-for-all solution. Samsung Dex comes close, but is still weighed down by Android, the same issue that the Surface Duo runs into. Apple's getting closer to perfecting the iPad as a 1-for-all solution, but even with that M1-chip in their Pro models, they still left out some features that would have made the iPad a fully fledged, smaller, lighter laptop. Pretty sure it is no coincidence. These companies still prefer we carry around 3 different systems with us, whilst trying to come across as caring for the environment.
@rishilandra2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, though, that often there’s need to use multiple devices simultaneously. But you do have a point, some people would benefit from an all in one depending on lifestyle and career
@realsecrets12 жыл бұрын
Lets not forget the repairability, hard and software restrictions
@sanjacob2 жыл бұрын
wow. that's how it's done. relaxed speech, no exaggerated volumes, super clear image and very personable performed. high class!
@Siddharthsirsate772 жыл бұрын
Level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7. My ears waiting this to be different. What is the next level?
@markasKCI2 жыл бұрын
In 2 or more years
@cocotug02 жыл бұрын
@@markasKCI i say 5 years for it to be at mid-high range, but you sure covered all alternatives with your last statement lol
@dmz_videos2 жыл бұрын
The camera bump actually broke the glass on the back if u put pressure on the camera inward the glass will crack. Not even that much force so don't squeeze the bottom part together when you're folding it open as one display.
@J_shw2 жыл бұрын
6:17 - I could imagine the lag, running resource hungry Windows 10 or 11 on this phone 😂
@KenjiPN2 жыл бұрын
Best way to start my bday, watching a new jerryrigeverything video! NICE!
@BEAT.SWEATS2 жыл бұрын
im surprised manufacturers don't leave a little dent for the bump to fit in when folded. it would work so well and make a really cool connection
@alfredsoyemi64252 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking so much about that. All they had to do is plan for it during the development and not after thought. Design the motherboard such that that space for the camera inside the frame is deliberate. I bet they can find a spot for a smaller pen design like those of galaxy notes. I think once AMD's NUVIA arm SoC comes out, a Windows Os version of DUO should be very practical and they MUST use USB4
@baldone452 жыл бұрын
The software has vastly improved via various updates since this aired
@JerziTBoss2 жыл бұрын
MS has all the tools to make Windows work on ARM and on devices like these. Windows 10 on phones and Windows Phone 8 had a good things going for it but MS botched it and then dropped the ball with it. MS Office suite on Windows Phones was way behind Android and iOs apps and that's the first party app! Notifications were a nightmare on Windows phone devices and they never did work properly and settings on Widows Phone 8 was just menu with random items. It did get better with Windows 10 but a lot of phones were cut from support even if they had performance to support it. I do agree that MS Duo 2 is being held back by android since windows already has wonderful multiscreen support and yes the lack of outside screen makes that more like foldable tablet rather than foldable phone.
@Nitnatsnok_842 жыл бұрын
Finally! I waited a long time for this video. Thanks! 👌
@benjamindbarr2 жыл бұрын
8" windows tablets werent ready for prime time... with windows 11 supporting android apps natively i feel you are exactly right. I love my Duo 2 but its not my only phone and i would much prefer it to run windows. I think a flip and duo with windows would be the ultimate perfect work and personal phone pairing
@mirek1902 жыл бұрын
Widows on mobile device ??? Haha .... they tried windows 8 / 10 mobile and was really bad to use .... Not proper designated 99.99% apps for touch and worse dual screen. Windows is good only with keyboard and mouse.... a lots of memory and fast CPU.
@benjamindbarr2 жыл бұрын
@@mirek190 windows mobile and and windows on a mobile sized device are two very different conversations.
@mirek1902 жыл бұрын
@@benjamindbarr I was using full windows some years ago on tablet ( windows had such era around 2015-2016 era when tablets were really small and fancy ... much better than nowadays ) everyone thought I will be great idea .. "Windows on small tablet ! That's Android killer! " - everyone were saying that ... So ? What happened? Was too heavy , to slow, using almost any app on touchscreen and windows was a tedious experience. It was great idea in mind but reality was totally different. That's why we don't have windows tablets anymore ( only Microsoft producing hybrids with keyboards ..not ONLY tablet .) On the other hand Android was projected for touch screen from beginning like every app for it ... That's why you newer need keyboard. Windows is good only with keyboard and mouse plus big screen because almost every app on windows was projected that way for windows... Stop already dreaming please . We had such dreams 10 years ago ... but it appeared a bad idea and everyone wanted forgot.abour it.
@AloyGallium2 жыл бұрын
Zack finally finds the actual issue with this device that other tech reviewers didn't. What a legend.
@benbenoy44192 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love a windows version with ryzen 5000U series mobile chip in this thing. 5000U series processors are made for thin and lite laptops while having double the core counts and integrated graphics of equivalent intel chip. So if they make it a inch bigger and lil bit thicker they can definitely fit that chip, get rid of the camera bump and a lil bit more battery maybe. It'll be the best selling foldable.
@jordawesome17162 жыл бұрын
I love your videos man!! they're so satisfying to watch
@jacksagoe8102 жыл бұрын
Hey Jerry, I was expecting you would have bent it also from the inside out or the other way round if that's how you will call it. Just curious about what will happen.🤔
@Astro.0042 жыл бұрын
What you said about Windows on the surface duo 2 makes perfect sense. Especially now that Android apps are supported on Windows 11
@me2olive2 жыл бұрын
Windows Phone... didn't exactly go so well though. If Microsoft had stuck with Windows Mobile and made improvements maybe things would have been different, but now in 2021 it really doesn't make sense for Microsoft to have yet another crack at the phone market, in software terms. Remember, Android apps are coming to Windows 11 so you will get interoperability on that front. As for whether it would sell, the Dell Venue 8 was probably the best known 8" Windows tablet when it launched, but Dell don't sell anything that small now. Even Microsoft's own Surface Go's screen has grown from its initial 10". Full fat Windows apps just aren't designed for screens that small, hence we got touch-friendly UWP apps... which did the same things Android apps did only worse. Outside of specialist devices like the GPD or Steam Deck, I don't see small screened Windows devices making a comeback.
@gusmartin60532 жыл бұрын
I agree, it would be soooo cool to have a full windows PC in that format factor. Come on Microsoft!
@srralias2 жыл бұрын
If Qualcomm can actually come out with a M1 competitor and Microsoft can manage to put into a Duo 3, I can't see why we can't have a windows 11 mobile Duo in the future. I'd upgrade to something like that.
@MelodicMethod2 жыл бұрын
Jerry's voice is so smooth, I even enjoy the commercials
@MEDIAFIRR2 жыл бұрын
I got the galaxy z fold 3
@elvanvans8852 жыл бұрын
love the shirt, legendary drawing
@muralisharma70772 жыл бұрын
4:04 😂😂
@nickthaskater2 жыл бұрын
Full Windows 11 on the Duo is entirely possible and would be amazing. I would buy it instantly. As an Android phone I couldn't care less about it.
@NandelsWoking2 жыл бұрын
yeah it all cool until your phone need activation lmao
@nickthaskater2 жыл бұрын
@@NandelsWoking how is that an issue?
@mirek1902 жыл бұрын
Widows on mobile device ??? Haha .... they tried windows 8 / 10 mobile and was really bad to use .... Not proper designated 99.99% apps for touch and worse dual screen. Windows is good only with keyboard and mouse.... a lots of memory and fast CPU.
@nickthaskater2 жыл бұрын
@@mirek190 Windows 8 and 10 Mobile were not full Windows operating systems. Windows 11 ARM is a full Windows OS. Windows 11 also works well with touch and can be run even on old slow hardware - my Note 10+ is more powerful than my Surface Go, yet my Go runs Windows 11 just fine.
@mirek1902 жыл бұрын
@@nickthaskater What's that point if you do not have any touch apps for win 11 mobile . Apart from that windows apps are heavy .
@composimple3642 жыл бұрын
Zack your head is so round, very satisfying watching your video and watching you 🙏😄😂
@randaranatunga72592 жыл бұрын
To anyone who is rea ding this on a a surface duo 2 do I h ope that youre Having a great day, as you can see I Have kept spaces in o rder for y’all to read it properly, cheer s (Spaces in order to be inclusive of the gaps in between the t wo screen components) (This is just a joke and I’m sure the device is good for those who know how to use it :))
@leo77hunter572 жыл бұрын
XD it doesn’t work like that but nice one 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Kiki-bq2ze2 жыл бұрын
Hey did you just upgrade your mic? The audio is phenomenal in this one
@technologyisawesome69132 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why some big companies sometimes lack the ability to make the right decision. Why can't Microsoft just decide to use the Windows operating system for their Duo 2? It makes no sense to use Android when you can use windows and make this duo 2 a portal computer.
@LexTNeville11 ай бұрын
I've had a Surface Duo 1 for a couple of years now - I've not been ind to it. It has not bent out of shape at all. The back glass is cracked, but DecalGirl sent me a really nice skin so I don't notice that. It is THE best device for navigation and music in the car. Couldn't care less about the lack of cameras - the Surface Duo pairs well with dedicated camera apps and is supreme for photo editing with sRGB screen support and all that real estate. The hinge gap is no bother. The initial software bugs are mostly resolved now. My finger scanner has broken, so I am going to buy another Surface Duo. Best phone ever.
@mausambhandari97292 жыл бұрын
this phone would be totally different if it had windows as its OS but now it is just another big phone with dual screen... when will MS learn to take advantage of its product without fearing the current trend.
@lordofthewest2 жыл бұрын
I wouldve liked to see you put some force on the phone in open position, like if someone left it unfolded and sat on it. It seems like that camera bump would be a nice point for the whole hinge to pivot off of.
@diareuse2 жыл бұрын
Blaming Android for incompetence of Microsoft devs on this particular product is just gold 😂
@alfredsoyemi64252 жыл бұрын
I see his statement not so much as blaming Android, but stating the short comings of Android for any foldable mobile device in general. Think about it, why did Android started the development of 12L? They knew foldable will not be successful on current Android design. I think Android 12L is the beginning of robust Os design for foldables such OEM can just do HW, skin the Os, but let the Os do all the heavy lifting that will make foldable do good stuff and solve problems that single screen Phones can not do. All current foldable phone manufacturing are doing independent codes additions to show what foldable can do which might not help Android Os in terms of fragmentation. Let the Os direct and standardize the best use and features for foldables and OEM can add there own values and extras.
@seventyseven14032 жыл бұрын
Jerry needs his own Bullet-Proof Windows 11 phone!!
@Raksh952 жыл бұрын
Agree with Jerrys comments here, Microsoft should never have shelved windows mobile. It is by far the best mobile operating system even by today's standard despite the fact they haven't worked on it for a while. Android and iOS use similar kernel design so they are kinda alike in ways. Windows wasn't and Microsoft had an amazing team during its time, best cameras, smooth phones even on 512mb ram and imo the best user interface for a phone, app tiles were so good and intuitive, None of this boring app icons bullshit. The app problem would have been solved now with their appstore solution that's just out for windows 11. Just port it into the mobile.
@zym5435 Жыл бұрын
it feels like this could be a really cool gaming phone, considering its already kinda like a ds anyways. itd be perfect for emulating different systems, since you could theoretically put touchscreen versions of any controls you wanted on the bottom, or even have one screen dedicated to the game with the other open to a walkthrough, which would be nice. that said idk the specs of this so it might not have the power for serious gaming, but i still think it at least has the potential to be really cool. i really hope microsoft and other manufacturers keep experimenting with the dual screen phone format, especially since the separate glass screens seem a lot more durable than the soft folding plastic ones.
@fshah48022 жыл бұрын
why no teardown:?
@aidanbrooks7712 жыл бұрын
IMO this is the best parts of that Royole flex phone and a regular phone, the extra area is nice for certain things like being able to play Clash of Clans and watching KZbin at the same time and the durability of regular glass over the tissue paper plastic is a nice touch as well
@purian232 жыл бұрын
"Luckily we have 2 screens to burn, so I can keep on talking"! 😁 😅 Also yes having a Windows build on this phone would be amazing. I have this device personally and it's very much improved over version 1.
@Dimondminer112 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the plastic frame now. Last year's frame was aluminum.
@darthmortem5852 жыл бұрын
@@Dimondminer11 literally nobody cares
@indie_developer_92 жыл бұрын
700 in 6 months : Jerry being SAVAGE 🤣🙌
@GAMERIN-rn6dj2 жыл бұрын
*“Everything is good but the bezels ruins it”*
@Pavlos.Pavlou2 жыл бұрын
@JerryRigEverything I wish Microsoft Duo 3 has a Dual Operating System (Android - Windows). CPU: QSD 898+. RAM: 16GB DDR5. NVMe: 256-512GB-1TB. Battery: 5.000mAh. Price: 1.000-1.200-1.400€.
@Akegata422 жыл бұрын
I think this would be abysmal with Windows 11. It would however work perfectly well with Linux. Even Microsoft realizes Linux is a lot more usable when you don't have a huge amount of processing power and/or memory (or just want to run thing efficiently in general).
@whiplashxe2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you did a Teardown skin for this model, have had it on mine for a while now!
@that_green_neko2 жыл бұрын
"They should release a phone with a Windows operating system. Microsoft would crush the mobile productivity space in ways no one else can." ...They tried that already and failed.
@leyzic92722 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Microsoft should not even bother if this is their final product
@MikuAuahDark2 жыл бұрын
Yeah because it wasn't full powered Windows. He's talking about full Windows 11 that can run PC apps
@syedammarkhalid36952 жыл бұрын
Thing was, the ms phone didn't allow basic apps to run on the phone, like yt and all that.
@Dimondminer112 жыл бұрын
Microsoft has a great track record at releasing a very innovative device, not committing, and loosing an absolute boat load of money.
@user-zb6gt7og9q2 жыл бұрын
@@Dimondminer11 With how often that happen, one must wonder whether they're doing it intentionally or not
@aaron58472 жыл бұрын
With curved screens, its possible to make a folding phone that uses glass and straight angles to fold open with no bezels. opposing 45 degree angles on the screens and a slight modification to the hinge and it could work perfect.
@stevenrogers53662 жыл бұрын
Your thoughts of the full fledged windows is so epic imagine just carrying a Phone to college and boom you don't need your laptop
@Timmie19952 жыл бұрын
7:18 My knees accidentally slammed together when you slammed the phone shut.
@papierkorbknackwurst2 жыл бұрын
Watching on amazing z fold 3
@pll__skip2 жыл бұрын
cuber?
@Sofisasam2 жыл бұрын
cubers unite
@Lol-rv5bv2 жыл бұрын
Waste of $
@papierkorbknackwurst2 жыл бұрын
@@pll__skip yes, from German, 12,01 Pb AVG5 17,68
@papierkorbknackwurst2 жыл бұрын
@@Lol-rv5bv I paid € 1300
@morsine2 жыл бұрын
The amount of battery that thing can fit, isn't enough for a x86 based processor, not to mention the lack of space for any kind of cooling in it. But I'd love to see windows 11 (not RT) on that thing!
@ianfahrizal852 жыл бұрын
Windows on arm could be amazing if they manage to produce powerful chip same as m1 chip
@_DreamzGaming2 жыл бұрын
Hi Zack Plz bring your knife in Black
@fallenravenclaw38702 жыл бұрын
You just a full stop for no reason
@PAVNEET2032 жыл бұрын
I always needed full fledged windows on my phone but i guess it's still a dream only
@Diegovelha2 жыл бұрын
Definitely android is holding it back. It would be much, much greater and more powerful if it ran windows. Specially now that windows 11 runs android applications by default.
@evilbeardedman2 жыл бұрын
I would definitely think about bying one of these if they managed to run Windows.
@paulteran69242 жыл бұрын
I’m liking how this phone has the two screens and it makes me things about using it for Microsoft word
@edwinlemus152 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for my shirt and knife to arrive super excited
@albertdiehl12982 жыл бұрын
3:47 “The sides of this $700 phone in six months!” 🤣😂😂😂😂
@imaginarygoblin2 жыл бұрын
I actually bought this one and I've got to say that I love it. I'm a little sad that there's no teardown video to accompany this one though.
@kulpak32 жыл бұрын
That last closing of the phone really got me, nice. Maybe there will be some windows ports for this phone? Who knows?
@rakshitgupta83412 жыл бұрын
1:56 Jerry showing off 😂😂
@maccrazy73352 жыл бұрын
Definitely wouldn't want windoze on a phone again but a full version of linux would be interesting with a decent phone plus externals...
@n7maan1272 жыл бұрын
Jerry is the only guy i don't skip his sponsor ads ✨
@taotao981032 жыл бұрын
I'm a Duo one user. Having the phone folded all the way is actually pretty important. Since there is no outer screen on this phone, you have to always open the phone to read notifications. What I do is to fold the phone all the way over permanently. Plus when you take a call, you have to flip the phone all the way over as well.
@thawurdsmith2 жыл бұрын
I have thr device and am very happy with it tho I always have two devices I also know android 12l will supposed to give native support to folding and dual screen phones which I think will make it even better.
@Bathna332 жыл бұрын
that tap at 8:19 makes me wonder how many people are you keeping in your basement Jerry? HOW MANY PEOPLE?
@ZeroAlpha11732 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking it’s not worth the money. Also, more hummer videos please!! I’m waiting to see this drive around. Also, are you going to paint and decal it?
@ryu_7982 жыл бұрын
Microsoft if you are somehow watching this, for your smartphone variant have the start menu screen as the screen of these phones. The issue with your surface series is that they do not have specs of modern devices, it overheats while being idle, and you're charging apple prices for Apple level hardware. You can only pull what apple does with a reputation, so make really good products with hardware of a modern Laptop. People will live with its thickness, no matter how thick. Make it durable and Repairable. This is doable, or you can wait when everyone is doing this, years down the line and keep chasing their tails.