Surface Duo 2: Can This Be Saved?

[@Flow_Easy]

The best way to describe this phone? "The operation was a success, but the patient died" 🤣🤣

[@kingjulien9525]

I work in healthcare, I couldn't stop laughing about your comment 😅🤣😷. In better term, instead of died, we say "expired". ✊🏾✌🏾

[@calchen7275]

Lol, you just said exactly what everyone was thinking.

[@mokaLARE]

😂

[@gowthamgudur4056]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mj4_1]

@@kingjulien9525 lmaoo

[@TheGroovyGuitarDude]

The novelty of a device like this is cool, but definitely not $1500 cool.

[@mxbblife_mu]

Cooler than the iPhone13 Pro Max at the same price

[@petepowaaa]

@@mxbblife_mu Nice meme

[@Xi_Jinping_is_Pooh]

Form factor is actually close to Samsung Note gen 1 when folded. 146.9 x 83 x 9.7 mm VS 145.2 x 92.1 x 11 mm (folded)

[@artin5146]

Ah dude your falling down by xxxtentacion video got me into playing guitar.

[@siipi6331]

That's not expensive, tho. I have waited a lot for this device. The user experience is perfect.

[@mucr9sventy]

Marques sounds like a reality show judge trying to be nice to an awkward performance 😅 he's really holding back words 😅

[@thetruq4857]

Is he? 🤔

[@dani.dth9019]

@@thetruq4857 yup

[@vasudevanvenkataraman5587]

Kek he didn't for the 1 iii though

[@cjb5934]

Sounds like my teacher at parents evening

[@shlokgambhir]

He could've unquestionably destroyed it

[@paulgraham6134]

I think this does have a possible utility for the office environment. When I was working in a physical office, I would have loved to have this device for all my meetings. It doesn't take up too much space, I can review an agenda on one side, write notes, or work with my project management software on the other side. I could see it being additionally the perfect device for a business lunch, big enough for accessing and sharing key documents and information, but not as challenging as everyone with laptops or even large tablets. If they ditch the cell phone capacity, and the camera tech, focus on Microsoft productivity (lower the price) maybe they could possibly champion this as a portable business tablet... the focus being on business....though I did enjoy seeing how it can be used as a video game console.

[@sjpachica3]

I definitely see the vision of this device as "future of work/office mobile computing"

[@impulsiveurge5837]

i hate the camera bump, you buy this for productivity not to take selfies.

[@triciap3803]

I totally agree, it's more for business or for people like myself that doesn't do much picture taking but likes the option if I randomly need it and use it more for bills and such. I always have the aftershock bone conducting Bluetooth headset on for calls so rarely would I need to put it up to my ear. And let's face it phones or tablets have their own set of glitches, likes and dislikes and to often people expect devices to do it all like waving a magic wand and that just isn't realistic. Everyone is different so what one might love someone else might not. I think we need to look at it's main purpose and stop expecting the impossible. I've been a Samsung owner for a long time but with that said I don't like everything about it, it just is what it is. 🤷‍♀️

[@hoangnguyennguyen1032]

@@impulsiveurge5837 hmm. Maybe just one little camera dedicated to scanning documents? That can be really neat. Just enough for office use.

[@impulsiveurge5837]

@@hoangnguyennguyen1032 Just a better selfie camera. If possible since they are tiny, they could make them two, front and back so you dont have to flip to take a pic.

[@winchdara7303]

I'm sad LG's dual screen from cases will never become mainstream. The LG Velvet and LG V60 were so promissing :(.

[@manusingh5549]

G8X ThinQ as well

[@connormcleod9595]

I have em

[@oscarr1161]

But too expensive...

[@SaithusX]

Every phone is too expensive. But thanks to LG being crap at holding their value I got the LG v60 dual screen for like $230!

[@stellanstafford6025]

I use a g8x its great

[@calvinswank1754]

My first time hearing Marques say: “I haven’t had it for very long” for any product he reviewed on.

[@NickRaven]

I understand he gets twice as many views for making a video about a product 10 minutes after he opens the package and then later in an actual, conclusive review, but this is really just disingenuous. Mr. Mobile really does it the best way: one definitive video.

[@LucaDinhNguyen]

Techtober must be busy haha

[@TheEGames]

it’s not the full review

[@bradavon]

All his reviews he's not had them very long, two weeks tops. Do you know if you properly like or dislike a new purchase in that short a time?

[@bradavon]

We won't be seeing a review. I bet.

[@AustinWhite122]

I feel like this phone's form factor is more geared toward someone looking for a work phone and just need to multitask well and use it for business applications. The changes they made make it geared more for the general public and what they'd expect.

[@not1goodname]

I firmly believe this is Microsofts portable outlook and teams machine. Like that is what it is really for. Which to me makes the whole "no usability when closed" thing like a huge feature to me. With a work phone I'd like to be able to close it and be done with it when I'm not supposed to be working.

[@UltimateAHP]

You might as well buy samsung's fold 3 if you're looking for a smartphone/tablet like experience. Definitely way better than what microsoft is trying to do here.

[@Samosayummyyay]

@@not1goodname Yea, but with terrible camera's, bad microphone and unreliable software it's a big NO. Just get a nice phone with a case (built-in stand maybe) and call it a day. At least that's 100% reliable and everything about it will be awesome.

[@gaganshetty7587]

Just get a z fold three then i feel likr its cheaper and better

[@AR-rg2en]

@@Samosayummyyay there are hundreds of those phones out there

[@HistorySkills]

Just received my first Surface Duo today. I have owned am iPhone, various Samsung and Nokia Android devices and even a few Windows phones. The Duo 2 is amazing and I have loved using it more than any phone I have had in a long time. I was nervous after watching so many negative reviews, but I must say that the reviewers haven't done this device justice: it is a superb experience.

[@WaffleusRex]

Same here. Loving mine so far. About two weeks into owning mine now. Very glad I switched to one. I get that it's not for everyone but it suits my use case.

[@HistorySkills]

Battery lasts all day, easily.

[@ronkemp9528]

Software updates have fixed the Duo 99%.

[@abcdelicious4420]

@@HistorySkills, just wondering how your experience is with the Surface Duo 2 now?? I have been enamored with this device since it came and now with the price drop to about $1000 and the multiple updates, I've heard that this is running a lot better. I would love to get your thoughts or anyone who actually owns this as I am thinking about getting this as my backup device, thanks. 📱📱❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@HistorySkills]

@@abcdelicious4420 Still a massive fan, even after all this time. I had to swap back to a Galaxy device for short time and I genuinely missed the two screens. While it's not for everyone, it is a superb piece of tech to own. Best of luck with the decision-making.

[@MiguelQuilesJr]

Is there a more dissapointing line of smartphones than the Surface Duo? I want so bad for these to be good and somehow Microsoft can't get their act together.

[@aaronrichards817]

It looks like what people thought phones would look like in the future in 2005

[@cacogenicist]

People shouldn't think of this as a phone, I guess. It's a pocketable productivity doodad -- of course the software needs to excellent to really sell it as such.

[@cacogenicist]

@@aaronrichards817 - PDA from _the future!_

[@anaperez5442]

Smartphone? I thought it was some kind of tablet!

[@aaronrichards817]

@@anaperez5442 It's a phone

[@The_Horizon]

imma wait till a few months so I can get this for like 200 bucks

[@fahyen6557]

too much

[@artoro8]

$75 take it or leave it

[@lordsluggg]

@@artoro8 take take take take

[@xaviert7839]

waste of 200

[@gaminghighlights2481]

Yes,

[@noeldillabough]

Pro: (over other folding devices): two real screens no worries of soft scratchy screen Con: hate the wrap hiding pixels in the middle, I'd rather more of a gap with no missing pixels

[@SaintRampalSpiritualLeader]

I have Z Fold 2 and inner screen isn't as bad as everyone is saying, sure glass is better, but I wouldn't say it's bad if you used screen protector (non glass ofc) on any other phone it is almost the same. The small scratches kind of self heal, idk about large ones since I don't have any, any scratches at all. It seems to be more reflective/ the screen isn't as bright. Oh and I feel confident pressing hard on it, I don't press hard since there is no reason at all but if you want to you can.

[@noeldillabough]

@@SaintRampalSpiritualLeader Good to hear, I'll prolly be picking up the Google Fold (made by Samsung) so will have very similar features

[@timkoken1570]

@@noeldillabough i have the z fold 2 as well and it really behaves like glass, youjust need to be careful with deep fingernails but thats it since it will be protected when closed

[@SaintRampalSpiritualLeader]

@@noeldillabough oh didn't even know there will be one

[@timkoken1570]

@@SaintRampalSpiritualLeader ther e are lots of roumors

[@stevehoot99]

It's a Microsoft product, so it's really in beta until at least version 3. I actually really like it. Get rid of the waterfall glass edge and go back to straight, plonk a flip3 style mini-screen on the front. The camera... honestly I'm wondering if they couldn't just move the current array in Duo 2 into the bezel where the selfie camera resides (and replace it). Don't see why you need both a front-facing and a rear facing camera array when you have two screens that can face opposing directions. Surely you can just use one screen when taking the picture? Do this for Duo 3, keep the price the same or less and I'd be tempted.

[@ConsanguinitySlam]

I remember the original surface had it’s flaws for a couple of versions before it became a decent product. I owned the original surface pro and it had the thickest bezels, the mic was placed right next to the exhaust fans, it got insanely hot and the kickstand was terrible. It may be the same way with this thing, although I’m not as confident in this.

[@MrDabrain75]

I think if they include a very good glass screen protector, so you could leave it open. And do the cameras like you said. They could get costs down and make it more seemless.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@MrDabrain75 Seamless. NOT seemless.

[@SouthTownLofi]

@@PSYCHOV3N0M okay google

[@mrtrailexplorer2004]

@@ConsanguinitySlam Original Surface Pro devices still going strong. Great hardware, awful kickstand

[@MrBhong2000]

Everyone in Microsoft who’s responsible for the development of the first duo should be forced to use it as their primary phone for at least a year so they can have a taste of their own medicine

[@betafi4535]

lmao

[@whosdondada]

😂😂😂

[@jonbp93]

They would probably miss their iPhones too much

[@MrBhong2000]

@@jonbp93 they’d probably quit their jobs just to avoid using it themselves

[@thecoishiking5768]

A lot of the time people are designated onto a project like this against their will and then they are given a very demanding timeframe. They had at best a year to significantly improve a device that was under spec and completely different to anything before it in microsoft's catalogue. Forcing people who didn't even want to work on it to now have to use it is just cruel

[@maple8040]

The hype of the original one felt so quickly that I forgot it was made last year.

[@foolpersona_]

bruh it was mase last year? jesus i thought it was 5 years ago lmao

[@mrbunlee]

Dear Microsoft if you cant find any things new let go back to lumia 1520 design put android on it, i will buy one and everybody will too trust me.

[@puritan745]

... well... not if they try to charge £1500 :O

[@crosser985]

Nobody bought the Lumia, that's why they don't make them anymore

[@lipokjamir2544]

Seconded

[@thechang5161]

Here here!

[@kingjakewolf5348]

@@crosser985 Nobody bought lumia because windows phone flopped, the phone designs themselves were awesome

[@Tech_BFF]

I absolutely love the Surface Duo 2 and I cannot wait to see how this thing builds out with future updates.

[@jasonlaughton7590]

Hi how do you like the surface duo 2 is it any gd

[@ZeFoxito]

Comments that aged poorly

[@yorgohoebeke]

@@ZeFoxito hahahahahaha

[@jeremyenelson]

Honestly, I think they should consider making a solo screen device instead. Design-wise, I think they get a lot more right than wrong, and I think a standard body phone with the Surface’s aluminum body would be pretty sick.

[@sherwinkp]

Exactly. They seem to have some good UI elements as well.

[@user10476]

The dual screen is the reason this device exists. Without it, it's just a regular, probably worse version, phone like every device on the market.

[@mkbhd]

I'd actually love to see that

[@AdamMarczak]

Yeah, I'd love Surface Phone. Their laptops look so cool. And combo with Windows (like ios&macos) would be something I've always wished for. I know it's available on samsung phones now, but it's just not as seamless as apple version. Let's just hope they won't overdesign it like they did with Surface Duo/Surface Studio Laptop.

[@michaelbabiuk8758]

@@mkbhd that device is already being sold. It is called the Apple iPad Mini.

[@SRC267]

4:14 shout out to the emulation community. NDS and 3DS on the go.

[@Molemanski]

But.... ds and 3ds are inherently on the go?

[@Ramu-10]

@@Molemanski Yeah but imagine being able to do all that on a phone

[@mudit7394]

Ye true

[@vedaryan334]

@@Molemanski imagine having both in one without having to change cartridges or anything on a phone

[@onepiecebarca]

Citra gang

[@NarkarBros]

Can't imagine a company like Microsoft making such blunders 🤨 Edit: To everyone speaking about windows phone, vista etc. I said 'Blunders'. It's plural.

[@ultrarealm]

Kin1 and kin2 didn’t even live to see the sun

[@AR-rg2en]

This comment doesnt make any sense

[@theformerkaiser9391]

*cough cough* Windows Phone

[@bfam6066]

Hah

[@elliothammer9485]

COUGH VISTA COUGH COUGH

[@godiseru]

The best thing about my Surface Duo was the perfect alignment of the two sides when it was closed or folded. I did not care about the camera because I rarely take pictures. I can safely say that if the first version were like this one, I would not purchase it. I also think that the $1400 price mark was too high. I bought the first phone for $1000 because I already knew that most people would not be willing to purchase a device like it. Basically, I knew that the price was going to come down. I assure anyone who wants this phone as well that the price of this one will not stay at $1400 either.

[@nottrevorallen]

you can pick up duo 1 for like 350-400 on ebay right now

[@pielordminiman8124]

The camera bump completely ruins the surface duo 2. The 360 hinge is essential. They should have instead installed one very high quality camera on the front and none on the back.

[@kamals.7643]

If Microsoft added an in-housing stylus and software for it, that would probably justify the price a bit and overshadow some of it's shortcomings.

[@LightYouTube]

This is like solving problems and creating more problems at the same time.

[@jitessh]

Yeah exactly like programming.

[@louellecaldino]

Its like Apple Inc too, the removed the ports, by going all type C, and in the end they bring it all back. And then they implement the Notch in the their MacBooks, and then solve the issue by removing it on the next product release on the future. They know people will buy it due to their powerful Chips, so they make fun of their customers by implement these intentional mess and other oddities.

[@AMPFIELDVISION]

What's that called?

[@WarAlex16]

@@AMPFIELDVISION MacBook 2016-2020

[@kiiryuerika6188]

Sounds lik Ark

[@RandomRedheadMX]

I feel like they should've made the selfie camera on the inside an actual decent camera. That way it's usable during video calls and you can use it as the main camera while having no camera bump at the outside

[@thateverettguy2991]

Not having a back camera wasn’t the issue, it already has a massive bevel on the tops and bottoms, I know there is issues when you put a chunky selfie in there but that’s what needed to happen

[@JOAKINGtube]

Had the same thought

[@kavyaaggarwal1382]

Well you can't add a good quality camera in this slim body so i.e. why

[@cynthia-op8rx]

I feel like a lunatic whenever I say this but I adore the concept here. if I had the money to throw around on something like this I'd love to have one. just the thought of being able to do split-screen productivity tasks with that much screen real estate sold me the moment I saw it. that being said, god why are those cameras there. i hate it. i really hate it.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Wait for a massive price drop like the 1st gen Duo had. The 1st gen model is around $600 or less brand new.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@c f Bad comparison. You can't fit a laptop in your pocket.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@c f Power users who multitask. Clearly you're not the target audience so just move on instead of complaining about something you have zero interest in. 😂😂😂

[@FrankFurther]

You are indeed a lunatic

[@Sebbir]

@@FrankFurther people said the same thing about the dude trying to invent fire. And look at him now!

[@Luxumbra69]

i actually like the passport design. i dont often take pictures so the inconvenience wouldnt bother me, but i feel like the dealbreaker is the seam in the display.

[@missingno2401]

for me the dealbreaker is both the seam and how thin the phone is

[@Abhishek-ez3ue]

I like the original surface duo more than this one especially because it was so sleek

[@mokkabonna]

Yes, I think they should stay true to that. Many people are willing to sacrifice worse camera quality for the form factor. But software needs to be more seemless.

[@SouthBayLA1310]

What's the difference?

[@cyn1623]

From someone who uses the original SD as daily driver, I actually enjoy the experience of opening such a sleek device everytime i use the phone. With the huge cam bump, however, the sleekness is pretty much gone. So ya, now we have a device that is neither here nor there; neither appealing to purists nor pragmatists. Oh well ...

[@Vedrick32]

@Bruh Bruh shut up shut up shut up

[@herrbolin]

Would love to see a re-review of this device.

[@TheWon23kid]

Its trash still

[@NateFord]

Why though? Did anything change?

[@herrbolin]

@@NateFord I believe alot has changed due to continuous improvement in software, not the least since Android 12L

[@MrMickey1987]

@@TheWon23kidAs a SD2 user I whole heartedly dissagree. I've got my self one for Christmas 2022, and it's been a blast. No regrets, can't imagine ever going back to just a regular slab phone. The little quality of life improvements, it's unapologetic approach towards multi tasking bring, really make it a unique device to use.

[@TheWon23kid]

@@MrMickey1987 its just a slow phone compared to most higher end flagships

[@MuitoDaora]

Microsoft should stay with this design and thy to improve it. Specially in making the 2 displays come closer together. A seamless foldable with glass display is my wet dream.

[@ДаниславЛоманов]

You can’t. Fold. Glass.

[@auliamate]

Get a Samsung. Bai.

[@auliamate]

@@ДаниславЛоманов Samsung did it (though a ton of them cracked so take that how you will)

[@ДаниславЛоманов]

@@auliamate that plastic in the middle of fold/flip doesn’t become glass when Samsung calls it so

[@HakaishinBlast]

@@ДаниславЛоманов IT IS glass bro, just has a plastic layer above it for protection as it is ultra this glass.

[@erikhefflefinger9460]

In terms of a "device" this is a really cool system. In terms of a phone, it's terrible. If this was your main device, there are far too many short comings for daily use.

[@abcdefg3386]

How do you even make calls with this thing? I mean, how do you hold it?

[@eingoluq]

It's not a phone. It's a digital booklet with telephony. It needs to be a good digital booklet first, camera and phone last.

[@ignaciocampos8435]

@@eingoluq maybe that's exactly the problem

[@kylekatsumi]

Sadly, you captured a lot of Microsoft's product woes in a nutshell: We made it objectively better and somehow it's still worse. I'm a fan of MSFT, and I wish they would work on the cohesiveness of all their products, not just the sum of their parts.

[@iu1191]

Imagine if a friend told you they were going to spend £1500 on this phone. What would you do. let them or shake them awake and into reality. Any good friend would deliver a slap into reality. Shake them awake!

[@heroedeleyenda05]

The thing is they dont have a steve jobs. (Im not a big fan of him as a person or his money making tactics) But he sure did know how to steer a ship into a grand vision

[@Tom_Stevens617]

@@heroedeleyenda05 And they don't have a Tim Cook either.

[@kamilstudios]

I think it is a great concept to have separate dual screens, but I can feel the annoying and impractical for everyday usage.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Which is why the LG V60 is superior because it has the detachable dual-screen case along with a superior aspect ratio for browsing websites and watching movies.

[@Dankboi420]

Yeah and it’s kinda cool with that thin design But what the hell was Microsoft thinking Who TF needs this First the Zune to complete with iPod Then the Windows Phone Now this one🤔🤔😨

[@zumabbar]

yeah, i'm sure i'm better off having a phone and a tablet, not to mention both can be obtained at a lower price than this duo at release

[@qamarmood1157]

@@PSYCHOV3N0M lg 60 your joking right

[@SagyTity1]

@@Dankboi420 compete with Samsung fold

[@jessechuff]

I feel like this form factor is really only useful as a novelty e-reader and an e-reader only. Every other feature just seems like it's at odds with it.

[@Rattus375]

Works great as a ds emulator too. A very expensive one, but still

[@jamesrosenberg1612]

ya i want this form factor for an e ink e-reader. that would be nice.. and like $200 maybe

[@Alexandre-nh3ei]

it's actually not, an entire line gets missing

[@atharvrao4565]

It can also be used for multitasking as well

[@llllllllllllllllllllllllIIIIl1]

The middle just eats up the words bro you boutta be skipping some plots 😭☠️💀

[@ShiloBuff]

3:46 How can they release a device that doesn't allow you to see the center of the screen? Which is arguably the most important area of the screen. I was open minded for a bit, even compared to the bendable screens. But missing text/pixels is a major NO. They might as well have just discontinued this device and started trying to implement bendable screen devices.

[@williamstryker7253]

Yah absolutely So Sloppy

[@dman1848]

I don't think it was originally designed to be viewed with both screen as one. More so like a book. A separate screen on the left and a separate on the right. Its not a Galaxy Fold design. I think people are using it for not what it was intended. E.g you wouldnt play a game using both screens for say a first person shooter as the reticle would not be able to be viewed properly.

[@ShiloBuff]

@@dman1848 That makes sense. Definitely think they no longer have a market and don't know what their device is meant for now.

[@jasonmoore1233]

@@dman1848 I completely agree. This review is very unfair. The review comes from an angle that this is targeted to the market of people looking for a cool camera/phone with a single large screen. The market for this device is not the galaxy fold users. This is a productivity tool for business professionals. It is meant for multi-tasking, not watching movies or other content across one-large screen. I have a duo 1 and I love it. Is it sometimes not-so-zippy with its response? Sure. But so is my iPhone 13 max pro that I use for my personal stuff. I use my duo as a secondary/ business device. And my iPhone for everything else. Greatest move I have made.

[@ShiloBuff]

@Momo On Interesting. Go for it! Best of luck with your assignment!

[@MediaCastleX]

I honestly feel like we didn't really need a camera for this stuff, perfectly fine with the way they had it before...they should make 2 versions for that kinda thing. 😅

[@OnlyLokimobile]

Get rid of the external camera. Put in a better selfie. And get the price down to 1k and I'd snap one up. This would be great as a work phone. Some companies require you to have a company phone. If I have to I would want something that is for productivity. I would have my regular phone for cameras.

[@JakeAdkinsOfficial]

Yeah, it seems they really need to go all in on business and productivity and skip the multicamera- this is why they weren't calling it a phone- its a device. Still, its a tough problem, because I still would want a good enough camera. Hopefully they think of something that really works well and fix the bugs.

[@Harlock2day]

Just don't have that bump, it's unecessary.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@OnlyLokimobile You can buy the 1st gen Duo for around $600 or less brand new if you know where to look.

[@The-Heart-Will-Testify]

All they had to do was add a pop up camera and get rid off the outside camera, they should of focused alot on the software and out the highest spec possible, highest ram and chip.....

[@red_adept]

I like this form factor. I carry two phones from two different service providers. I would love it is they could be joined together like this and share storage and apps but assign mobile services to each screen. Also, I don't think the interface needs to span across both screens. The point of having two screens like this would be using two apps at once. So like a PDF or a video on one and a text editor or email on the other. Also, it would be neat to have it display two document pages at once like a book. And of course if turned sideways one screen could become a keyboard or virtual controller. I like this idea, but they need to stop trying to make it something it isn't.

[@zankfrappa93]

i was just thinking about something similar but with android user profiles where you could have your work user open on one screen and then your normal user on the other.

[@ThompterSHunson]

This looks like a 2000's smartphone trying to emulate how smartphones will look in the future.

[@titanskrall7234]

I personally think that the larger version of this, the Neo, was a far better idea. The ability to have a laptop or a dualscreen monitor set-up on the go with a magnetic wireless keyboard is super appealing. As for in a phone, it just seems cumbersome! The camera don't fit, it's too wide for a pocket, and the whole thing appears indecisive.

[@MelbourneMeMe]

Surface phone was always my dream: full windows x86 programs in your pocket. Now I don't know why I would ever need that. Folding devices are all rubbish. If I want a larger screen I just switch to a surface or laptop. I can only see a future of your phone being so powerful that it's your entire computer and it connects to different sized screens.

[@lalakuma9]

I agree, if they're trying to sell dual screen as a tool for productivity, it makes more sense to do it with a mini laptop with an actual keyboard.

[@EmceeRad]

they been playing with this idea for a long time now and the neo was the culmination if you ask me but i guess they went with the phone over neo and now neo is delay for a long while

[@Thesisterchannel_]

This is like Huawei’s and Samsung’s rough draft of their folding phones.

[@vincepham268]

Their UI's were better on it

[@OK-td7oe]

No it’s not. It’s completely different because they are two independent screens, which adds a whole different way of using your device. It’s not a folding screen. It’s two screens with hinges. Big difference.

[@ko-Daegu]

@@OK-td7oe it's hella buggy just like a pre-alpha which's a shame for 1500 device

[@ManosMe]

@Mkbhd: How about doing a re-review of the Duo 2? Some say that it has vastly improved after the February update. Would you give it one more chance?

[@JasonWe171]

MSFT not using the forehead space for the entire upgraded camera was an epic miss. The pass port device that docks to your home system is the future. MSFT you are so close..... don't zune...away! you almost have the world beater.

[@Dr1on]

Don't Zune away 🤣👍

[@kevin3837]

I really liked the design of the first duo. I think it has a price and immage issue. MS should have kept the design sleek and targeted Business customers as a second device.

[@Johnny5477]

Yep. Make it a little bigger so on opening, it's basically the size of an iPad Mini. Boom, tablet.

[@amg863]

Business customers would not want this device

[@amigo-l9m]

@@Johnny5477 surface duo 2 unfolded is actually bigger than an ipad mini.

[@Digitaldreamer7]

I can tell you don't work in an office lol. Users BITCH AND MOAN if they have to carry more than one device

[@Azulayar]

They should ditch the outside cameras and have great "selfie " cameras, so it can fold nice and have fast photoshooting. Thicker is also ok to make that happen

[@franklingoodwin]

True. People can say this is a foldable phone but it's actually a foldable tablet. Tablets don't need any camera that isn't the selfie cam

[@auliamate]

Steal the Pixel software magic ideas from Google and make one AMAZING camera instead of 3 mediocre ones.

[@snoopyfix2]

Honestly, I really like the first Duo's design. I'm a little torn on whether or not the outside should also have a screen. I feel like if it did that it's way more vulnerable. One perk of the Duo is that you really don't need a case to protect it. You don't need to worry about scratches or dropping it, and that's some good piece of mind. On the other hand, all the things you mentioned MK. Perhaps, if it did have a screen, maybe just a small one like the Galaxy ZFlip 3. Or maybe even a TFT looking reader that gives essential/programmable info. Similar to the dot view on the HTC One M8 dot case? It was cool and could do some cool things. Idk?! Also, with the Duo 3, if they could keep the Duo 1's design but integrate 3 great cameras where the first selfie camera was and don't put any on the outside, I think that would be better.

[@kobbycrentsil2859]

I bet this would make Arun's failed tech list 😂😂

[@auliamate]

Unless it succeeds since no one thinks about who would want it and just “it’s not a 1800-2000 dollar folding phone, so it’s worse”

[@thisamericanwifepod]

It seems like they've made Duo 1.5 here, it's got new hardware inside and the camera, but they must know that the bolt-on bump ruins the whole thing they were going for. They've released it now as is to keep the brand relevant and try to avoid it being called a failure, while a team works overtime on the next version with cameras better incorporated into the flat design.

[@aylanurreezman1983]

I mean it looks pretty bad

[@petermontague3062]

In my view whilst it was never sensible to brand the first one as "not a phone", it is definitely the case that the Duos are not for everyone and fit a certain use profile. And I think that's fine - provided the business case works out if the market for it is relatively small.

[@ArtsyStudios]

It almost has a slight feel of a blackberry, business/executive niche group. The black colour more so than the white. I'm a Mental Health Nurse on the wards and need a phone to take notes on, I'm really unsure to get the z fold 3 or the duo 2. I really do like the duo 2, but samsung looks the more practical. I can't decide because my contracts up in November and whichever one I get ill be keeping for 2 years

[@JACCO20082012]

I really, really like the idea behind this device. The dual screen implementation is a neat idea and allows for some functionality candy bar and foldable phones don't have. It just can't complete with a Note or S series because they have had 10 years to perfect the UI and feature library. It also doesn't have a great form factor and the original was difficult to use for that reason.

[@philipchan9297]

Wow. Microsoft still has a long way to go to improve this device. It's not even a competition with other foldable phones. Yet they have money to burn to keep making Duo in future generations.

[@SD_702]

"the biggest mistake an engineer can make is optimizing something that shouldn't exist" -Elon Musk. And that's how I feel about surface duo.

[@mudit7394]

I feel like surface duo could have done much better due to the immense amount of money Microsoft has and can invest

[@HsingG32]

but more than often it is not the engineer that decide that something 😂

[@mudit7394]

@Joe I feel like for the price the hardware can be improved look at s21 series of Samsung the specifications are much better

[@Frank72364]

You shouldn’t listen what that guy says.

[@aspacelex]

I guess he took avoiding making that mistake too seriously, based on him pursuing worse versions of good ideas. Then again, he isn't an engineer.

[@Hellraizer8]

I would have loved this phone a 5-7 years ago with the limitations of folding screens and just having the biggest phone to show off. For 2021, this phone is the epitome of inconvenience.

[@How3Kiwi]

One of the things that never really clicked for me until I owned a Z Fold 3, is how much I would rely on the outside screen to do regular smartphone things. It's about the flexibility of being able to use it unfolded when I want to. There are some days that I never open up to the big screen - and that's okay. Knowing all of this, now, I can completely understand from a physical convenience perspective, that the Surface Duo 2 can be a pain to use, because you HAVE to open it up to use it, even if you don't want to use both screens. Combine that with the admittedly poor camera placement, and it becomes a very cumbersome daily driver for most people. Microsoft marketed the first Duo as less of a phone replacement, and more as a business-minded tablet supplement, and I think it works fine for that, but the tradeoffs make it a difficult pill to swallow for $1500. The software bugs, though, even if the phone was otherwise perfect, is unacceptable at just about any price point these days, let alone at an eye-watering $1500. Cheers to another great video, Marques.

[@mtrader82]

Could agree more . . The fold3 is awesome!

[@LeftBeef]

Microsoft said for the first Duo, "this is now a Phone". The Duo has been treated as a Surface device first, and an Android smartphone second. They have the Surface side of it down (you didn't mention Surface Pen works with it and Surface Slim Pen 2 magnet attaches to the side), but need to work on the 'phone' parts of it.

[@TechAisle]

So, it is like an inferior foldable that shouldn't cost as much as it does, especially since paying just $300 more will get you a real, chad foldable

[@bigbee5220]

Foldable technology is more difficult than hinge technology. So I was surprised that Samsung priced the Fold 3 cheaper than I thought. But it's still expensive for me...

[@RedEyesInTheDark]

@@bigbee5220 and it probably won’t last long in the long run

[@franklingoodwin]

What's a Chad foldable? 😄

[@eval_is_evil]

Agreed. Samsung nailed it.

[@The-Heart-Will-Testify]

@@eval_is_evil not with that crease, idk how people don't notice the big flaw

[@Rhysing]

I had the first one at launch and have used it since. I haven't had any of those issues you described. Not at least since maybe the first couple weeks after launch, when all the finger commands an responsive glitches were fixed up. Crazy the difference in experiences we've had, but what do I know, I've only used it as my daily driver every single day.

[@4paapii]

I think marques always uses very early software versions which usually have themost bugs

[@292angelo]

That's a thing. He's using it for couple of days and already buried the phone right way.

[@zenny2264]

I just love the Microsoft logo on the first one it looks so smooth

[@AlanHornkohl]

I remember when there were rumors years ago about the Microsoft Courier and everyone was so excited about the possibilities. Now that something similar is available, not many people are interested. I still love that companies are trying different things.

[@Lena-vw6ye]

I feel like this is a folding mini-tablet that you can call with. Seems more of a professional tool, but without the professional tools because you don't get full functionality with the apps.

[@elfedorausado]

My sentiments, exactly

[@dcny69]

Gurl shut up. Go make us a sandwich

[@john_radamis]

I really like this form, i just feel that it needs a Windows OS version that sync smoothly with a laptop/pc so that I have another small like laptop. Whatever I change on the duo gets changed on my main laptop/pc.

[@pulkitsukhija]

+1

[@GabrielRM]

+2 This Duo has potential imho, specially for professional use. I preferred the sleek form factor from the first but apart from that the second it's really good. I mean, I use my phone camera like once a month.

[@divyam._.maheshwari]

That would be game-changing.

[@tlrprice7]

So I loved the hardware of the duo and I thought opening it every time would be cool until I got the fold 3 and realized I how usable it is closed. I have been taking tons of photos on vacation and when you are moving and running as round you want a quick couple pictures then back in the pocket. Then open it and go thought everything when you get to a resting place. I think the duo needs a dedicated companion if not a third screen a watch as capable as an apple watch.

[@kingmarkseven17]

Foldable devices need an outside display. There's no other way around it. For that price Microsoft should have done added one.

[@PS-nf3xw]

It folds outside

[@elijah_wolf]

I mean it does flip outwards so you can use just one display, but it does kind of defeat the purpose of not having to open it to use it. If Microsoft makes another surface generation, they should at least add a small sneak peek display like the z flip 3 has

[@simon6099]

That logic says every laptop should have an outside screen. Problem here is he is reviewing it as a phone, which isn't its primary use. It's like reviewing a car and saying it's crap cos I can't get my pallet that I need to deliver into it....well, buy a van then. And in the same vein...Don't expect this to perform like a phone...buy a phone. They shouldn't have caved and put cameras on the outside, and instead focused on making it just 'better'. They are mudding the water by putting more 'phone' features on it.

[@stellanstafford6025]

@@simon6099 its an android phone

[@simon6099]

@@stellanstafford6025 it uses android. Doesn’t mean it’s a phone. Apparently It’s a ‘mobile productivity device’. It’s Microsoft’s fault for trying to make it do to many things, instead of making it awesome at one.

[@miguelojera2356]

The phone is pretty much geared towards professionals who can utilize the multitasking experience and have it as a companion device for a Surface Pro or main laptop you may already have.

[@saharsh4169]

I just want to appreciate that marques never puts ads during the video...he really loves the art of making tech videos and not just doing business...best tech channel out there..been following for 8 years now....great job man!!

[@CodeRedCody]

That Nintendo 2DS XL looking good

[@micahflack]

Desperately needs a lower price and the bugs fixed - but I'm really hoping they stick with it. I've been enamored by the concept since the initial release, yet I haven't bought it. Maybe a thin and angled case could fix the grip issue?

[@TechWithAKJ]

The Surface Duo needs to have the ability to run some lite version of Windows when plugged into a monitor like Samsung Dex. That would somewhat justify the price and the compromises, and make it an awesome all in one device.

[@SirFaceFone]

I think that's where the Your Phone app comes in.

[@paco_rms]

I would love to see an e-reader in this format. It's like a book already

[@McGaming412]

or u can just get the ipad mini lmao

[@tap.andrack]

or u can just get a real book lmao

[@heroedeleyenda05]

@@tap.andrack you havent had an e reader , right?

[@MaximeBret]

damn here is a wonderful idea, e-ink display foldable like this. You can switch between normal and spread mode without giving up on space. Hell now I am wondering why the e-ink manufacturers did not think about it yet.

[@heroedeleyenda05]

I understand your comment but To be honest, the tablet format for an e reader is the best format for it. Being able to close it like a book wouldn't really add any benefits to the reading experience. The kindle voyager has the best shape so far in my opinion. It has all the thickness and weight on one side, and its super thin on the other side. That form factor is better than both; holding a book or holding a tablet because the weight is distributed in a way that its easier to hold than a book.

[@petepaxton5109]

I already have the Fold 4 but I got an unlocked brand new duo for $250 and I just couldn't pass it up. I have to admit I like it more than I thought I would. The numerous updates have made a big difference from when it first came out. I'm using it as my daily driver for now and it's actually running just fine. Now that I already have t he fold I'd probably choose it but if I had bought this before I probably would have never bought the fold.

[@mxbblife_mu]

FACTS I have a Surface Duo 2 and Fold 3 and I really only use the Fold for games because of the higher refresh rate... the camera quality on the Duo 2 isn't even all that different from the Fold.

[@kingcohen2494]

honestly, just save up and spend the extra few hundred dollars on a Galaxy Z Fold 3 in Canada at least (the prices are around a 300-400$ difference)

[@hk6926]

Yes but the crappy plastic screen phone lol . Sold it within days . A horrible horrible phone fold 3 is

[@iTuber012]

Seems most folks miss the point of DUO(2 screens, not a tablet - spanning 1 app across both screens is not the intention though it IS supported for some productivity apps like various email services) - including most of the reviews today; It is a productivity device. I get that it is not for most people but review it based on its intended purpose.

[@YuhNinja]

N o

[@manurecars]

It does not make any sense as a device and add usual, people will vote with their wallets, be ready for very low sales

[@AR-rg2en]

This review doesn't even know that span feature is just a possibility, not the main mode. Some apps are good with it, some are bad.

[@iTuber012]

@@AR-rg2en yes indeed. Watch iJustine s video on this device and you can see that she understands HOW the device is intended to be used.

[@AR-rg2en]

@@iTuber012 yep

[@dennan4]

Who knows if they go back or not, basically they were pushed in this direction by tech reviewers that doesnt seem to fully understand the benefit this deisgn might have for some of us that doesnt need more screen estate to watch youtube on full screen on the go, the aspect ratio already make videos quite big on one screen. But rather use it for work purposes. I would have preferred a worse camera and no bump, but like there would be so much critic from reviewers if they did that again so its not possible unfortunately. So far the hours I had the Duo 2 it seems great though compared to my original Duo, both with the hardware refinement and in the software department. It has plenty of benefits over a Fold 3 for me. Aspect ratios of the screen, real glass screens, much thinner, no outside display so its all protected when closed, I dont really notice the camera bump in phone mode as I usually have the surface pen attached there anyway so there was already a gap on original Duo. I do hope that Samsung would release a dual screen competitor though, that would have been interesting.

[@chrisdistant9040]

It’s a weird concept (to me) to begin with, if they were really “pushed by reviewers” to make it worse in some cases, this to me shows they don’t seem to know what they are doing tbh. It’s a cool idea, probably shouldn’t have left the prototype stage if you ask me.

[@siipi6331]

This is a perfect design.

[@dennan4]

@@chrisdistant9040 I want more prototypes to be released to the public, most devices are way to similar today in my view. People can only be better of if more designs are available, nobody can be hurt by something they don't like being sold.

[@heitoroliveira5166]

I honestly think the Oppo Rollable phone looks like a more interesting way than the surface. feels a lot problematic for me in terms of usability. If i had the money, i would probably just buy the iphone 13 pro or whatever

[@auliamate]

IKR. He is so obviously biased in this video.

[@freddiejoachim]

i recently got the surface duo 1 for the much reduced price. honestly, i love it. it's my secondary device next to my iphone 12 pro max. i rarely span apps across screens, more for using two apps at the same time. this isn't a foldable tablet, but more of a device with 2 screens. it's definitely not worth the full price tag for either models. seems like the 2 has the same small bugs at the 1. but overall the duo does exactly what i need it for, so i'm pretty happy with it. why can't it read external usb drives though?? i might be missing something, but haven't been successful.

[@Steel86Curtain]

First thing I thought about when I saw that camera bump was it preventing the device from closing back to back like it did before. Surprised they didn't go with a motorized setup or just upgrading the cameras before to keep that aesthetic. I really wanted this thing to work. Such an interesting form factor.

[@chepulis]

The large bezels have enough space to fit a proper camera array on one of the inside screens. Either get the best possible camera while keeping the surface flush or say fuck it and have the fold not close down completely. Presume that it will be carried folded screen-out by default (that's more useful anyway).

[@Simoneister]

Camera lenses need depth, and this is an extremely thin device. There's not much you can do camera-wise with a wide, shallow area.

[@qiX2wf48]

You can span across both screens, but that doesn't mean you should. It's not made for that. See those two displays behind you? Would you span one program across both of them? Of course not. You use the Duo the same way you use those displays. One app on the left, one on the right. Or span an app that supports it. Try Google maps street view.

[@Theprofessor1212]

Exactly.

[@ksam7428]

They think it's a galaxy fold 😂

[@CaidicusProductions]

I am always completely blown away by how good the music is on your channel. Man oh man, what a treat for the ears.

[@marcvic_1595]

When I see this device, I immediately think productivity - mainly in book mode. Using excel/outlook/adobe/etc. at the same time, having two browser tabs/apps accessable at the same time, having pen functionality are all things I've wanted since using the Note Series for the last 8 or 9 years. I liked the Surface Duo 1 but passed because of the power/camera (I think a lot of the bugs were due to the power). For me, this device is the ultimate palm pilot/note/blackberry type. For someone who likes those types of devices, the Duo 2 is the best offering so far. The middle break in the screen would never be an issue for me, becuase I don't have any intention to stretch a single app over both screens. It's not perfect though --- I could use a slot for a pen, and the camera hump takes away from the sexy thin profile that I adored in the Duo 1. Also as MKB mentioned, an outside screen would be pretty cool but kind of outside the scope for this device's purpose. All in all --- I think I'm ready to move on from the Note Series after almost a decade!

[@skonertm9395]

This analysis is better than MKHDs whole video.

[@gainesj1]

Solid assessment. I moved on from the note series to fold. I want the Surface Duo to be great... but it's just not there yet. I am most likly to buy a Duo 1 and carry it with my Fold and iphone 11

[@alii2284]

Why would anyone buy this instead or samsung's z fold 3? It's a real question

[@kuricosmos]

@@alii2284 This is cheaper than the Z Fold 3 and for the purposes of being a portable tablet, is superior.

[@IndefiniteBen]

I don't know if you've seen, but when it's folded open (with the camera touching the back) the surface slim pen fits in the gap between the backs. Doesn't help for carrying around when closed, but the pen attaches magnetically I think.

[@MrBeastKorea]

Feels like the entire production of this gadget can be summarized by: "Eh, that's good enough I guess."

[@TheTusieq]

Microsoft’s attitude to basically every product can be summarized by that.

[@CurtisBond]

"This isn't the full review". Goes on to rant about the product in explicit detail for 11 minutes straight.

[@drdj69]

you work for microsoft ?

[@CurtisBond]

@@drdj69 I didn't say it was a bad thing.

[@raghavranjan4587]

Classic Marques

[@blueprint7]

got him

[@robertosmmjlist]

We found the Microsoft guy

[@davidclark2721]

Thank you for your review. I appreciated your perspective. However, as a user of the Duo since last December, I have come to really utilize and enjoy having the two screens. I have not had the software problems you mentioned with it. I agree that the camera was far from optimal, so I am looking forward to trying the Duo 2. I believe that the Duo 2 will be better and is a form factor that I hope will continue to be available. I would not like to go back to a single screen device. That would decrease my productivity too much! The two screens on the Duo have been the right size, and not too narrow like the Z-Flip.

[@chinmayg5033]

You could have bought fold 3 👍👍👍

[@mariamakarova2420]

i completely agree . when i started using the microsoft duo, i never looked back with a single screen anymore. you have to own it to appreciate it. people who just watch reviews and makes negative comments without first hand experience are just simply trolling. i rest my case 😂😎😎😎

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@chinmayg5033 He implies at the bottom that he doesn't like narrow phones.

[@chazzbranigaan9354]

Get the fold 3 please for the love of God

[@SirCharlesLikesChurros]

No offense, but you created your account 7 days ago... 2 days before your comment. Are you even a real account? Or you got paid by Microsoft to make these kind of "real life experience" comments where you say you can't live without the device while subtly admitting of 1 not optimal feature the device has to make you comment seem like an authentic review? Lol. Also, how are you at the top of my comment section when you have so few likes compared to other comments? I even checked in my father's phone, and there you are, at the top of his comment section as well lol. Makes no sense. 🤣

[@VenturiLife]

They couldn't design a hinge to close the gap when fully open. That's a fail in itself.

[@hassosigbjoernson5738]

Because that type of hinge wouldn't make it possible to open the device 360° and would be very sensible to dust and dirt between it when opened 180°.

[@jimmor7]

Used the first edition and didn't mind at all, that i needed to open it up. Multitasking with two screens is just soooo much fun and so time saving. loved it.

[@Mrst3lios89]

When it wasn’t buggy and I guess now you would mind if there were words being cut off from the screen because of a major design flaw that is probably not going to be fixed.

[@jimmor7]

@@PitoVH nope nope and nope. just a happy Surface Duo consumer, witch i own, how loves that he can multi-task on his mobile device and can go pas the MS DOS one app at a time days.

[@jimmor7]

@@Mrst3lios89 yeah, that's not good. but in my daily use of the surface duo 1 for the past 9 months, i didn't use full screen apps that much. What's more annoying is the touch responsiveness. That's really someting, that need fixing quickly.

[@Shanahan126]

The whole point of the device is to do two things at once, not spanning an app across two screens. So many KZbinrs are missing the point of the device.

[@dimenfer]

It's possible, so.

[@001100G]

Thank you.

[@Lionel-c8u]

The surface duo has the best form factor ever. If M.S get rid of the camera bump, add a front screen with internal cameras and improve the software, I would buy this baby all day long.

[@aungkhant]

As a person who can easily be distracted by messages and notifications, it’s honestly quite refreshing to see a phone that you can only use when it’s fully unfolded. Too many smart phones these days take up our attention with open screens displaying everything that we may or may not want to bother with in that moment

[@Samosayummyyay]

And that's why buddy, they make flip-covers for the phones ;) Flip-cover with no window on it ;) No need to look for expensive phones haha

[@deepakbisht4957]

Lol notification are literally made to notify people that's why they exist. If notification is bothering you there is a thing called work mode or you can disable notification on screen lock just play with that notification feature...

[@PPLRRN]

@@Samosayummyyay what about people who dont like cases?

[@jamsheeddevotee7588]

How to fix this device: -No cameras externally unless put high quality cameras on the inside and have that be it. -Add front facing stereo speakers -Make specific TW headphones to ship with these -stop calling it a phone and officially label it a phablet -hire devs to design a productivity app suite -integrate a stylus

[@yashshukla7633]

you suggested the things that had popped up in my mind too

[@pulkitsukhija]

I hope someone from microsoft sees this

[@dylanc2806]

ah yes it now costs 2500$

[@joevsyou]

I say you can easily have decent cameras external without humps... there was zero reason is have a giant hump like that for this product.

[@TheWorldofVee]

if they were desperate for higher end cameras, they should have made the device thicker i agree. But if they had made the other front a display then I could have lived with the bump as a compromise, but I'll stick to keeping my Duo 1 around for home automation.

[@susheelchandra244]

Microsoft lost their 1400$ by giving him this device. He absolutely ripped it apart

[@tasinbinasghar]

They make billions of dollars, Don't think that would be problem for them

[@carlmiller369]

He is an isheep Microsoft hater

[@DJ_FT]

@@tasinbinasghar I think he made them lose much more than $1400, considering that he deterred many potential buyers from this device.

[@susheelchandra244]

Just joking guys. Obviously it's much more than 1400$.

[@juliusdv6657]

@@DJ_FT The people who "really" want it are still going to go get it.

[@johnnielsen5392]

Misses the point about this Surface Duo 2, it is in the title Duo - two screens. It is not a fold device like Samsungs - getting one bigger screen. Surface Duo 1 and 2 is not built to split text/pictures between the 2 screens - so you can work with more than 1 application on the device with ease on both screens.

[@alexfirth21]

They’re still doing R&D on this form factor so I have a sliver of faith in them executing correctly. Courier dream is still alive albeit better as Windows imo. Windows 11 supporting android soon 👀

[@TnoBambino]

Microsoft crying right now that this video single handedly decreased sales by 99.9%

[@franklingoodwin]

And Microsoft fanboys too. They're about to to light up the comments with their crying any minute now

[@seiji-kun9488]

It really doesn’t look like Microsoft is trying to sell this to people who don’t like it in the first place so..

[@alexandersinclair]

@@franklingoodwin Not sure about that, I will buy this. I am too old to care about what Jenny and Ken have to say about my device.

[@franklingoodwin]

@@alexandersinclair Jenny and Kenny? Sounds like a sitcom 😄

[@alexandersinclair]

@@franklingoodwin Exactly, just like most of the commentators here that will never buy the Surface, even if it had all the bells a whistles that they would never use.

[@ahyi9350]

Steve Job's gonna have a good laugh at this design if he is still around.

[@blairmiller9160]

11 years later mircosot still doesnt get it

[@HelixAdamOxford]

i dont get it

[@BlackHeart_YouTube_Channel]

You guys don't get it. I ve got a lot o phones and the duo is by far the one I use the most. For productivity it's by far the best. Most of those instagram-blingbling-Apple-Tesla people not understand a shit about the purpose of this phone. It's a excellent device

[@ahyi9350]

@@BlackHeart_KZbin_Channel chill, glad you find this device awesome. I mention Steve job in here because I personally feel he will think this design is a joke. But in honesty, it really depend on each user’s preferences. No right or wrong here :)

[@BlackHeart_YouTube_Channel]

@@ahyi9350 I am still wondering why you hype-guys really think Jobs should have to say something about designs and concepts..

[@masterquake7]

A note, is that Microsoft used better glass on the inside than on the outside of the Duo 2 so setting it down with a screen down isn't as volatile than you would expect. Edit: An outside screen may be useful, but given the use case for Surface Duo I don't think it is necessary. Stuff like spanning apps, I find is better vertically, like scrolling a long email or web page or forcing the keyboard to the bottom screen vs attempting to span horizontally. There are a few bugs still that need to be fixed, but I have not seen the touch issues that you saw.

[@SD_702]

Techtober is my life force. Long live MKBHD - I submit to my tech overlord.

[@SamanthaBep]

Is any company making an e-reader with a folding screen? Seems like the folding screen gimic would actually be useful there

[@ihsurart5389]

A next gen kindle would def be awesome!

[@IndianTelephone]

@@ihsurart5389 Why do you need a next gen kindle? Kindle is perfect as it is. What would be the "next gen" in it?

[@ihsurart5389]

A foldable kindle bro that might be as big as a book

[@jack_db_1989]

Hey, don’t have a good day, have a great day!

[@ivanloh4326]

Thanks. You too!

[@abayamangali]

Free Guy reference, nice!

[@aljiutu]

Love that song!!

[@Graphics_Card]

Love that movie

[@MethDealer5916]

thank u

[@dezystarheartstring9000]

I love The Microsoft Duo, I feel as though two more generation is going to be a well polish device

[@krishnam.agarwal]

in this, folding is basically only for fitting it in your pocket and no other use

[@BM0R3Natural]

I love this channel and have owned the Surface Duo since launch. My biggest issue with all MKBHD's (and most other) coverage on this device is that the Duo is NOT a phone. It's a secondary productivity device with phone features. Microsoft caved to the cry babies who didn't understand that and now the main complaint is that the form factor has been ruined by the camera bump. You can't have it both ways! Those of us who understood the devices' purpose from jump, don't have as many complaints and definitely didn't care about the camera.

[@apollokonig1291]

Yepp, Microsoft has a talent to be misunderstood. Like when Windows 8 came out and everyone was crying on the live tiles, just not understanding that the tiles are the start menue, not the desktop. Same with the Duo.. it's called Duo because it's made to use TWO screens independently, not to use them as a folded screen. And i am with you that MKHD is not getting the point of what this device is made for. It's like complaining a bike with sidecar for not having a roof like a car.

[@ukpkmkk_2]

Finally , a guy who gets it..

[@ukpkmkk_2]

When unfortunately even the guy who’s supposedly reviewing it for us doesn’t understand what it is and what it was meant for.

[@JAKOB1977]

I really hope you got yours for 400 USD, like you could gte it in the first half of 2021... uhh purchased since launch.. dam gal (sorry my bad "they") thats a lot..

[@BM0R3Natural]

@@JAKOB1977 nothing to feel sorry for. Software updates fixed pretty much every issue that existed at launch and were well worth the wait. It's a pretty great device if you understand its purpose and use it accordingly.

[@PaulPlay]

It looks a bit outdated with these big bezels, for that price the ZFold3 is more appealing

[@stevv9038]

@Joe ok

[@deadrabit71]

I feel like you're missing the point. It's a productivity device, a phone you can multi task on. Judging it as a game boy isn't the way to go. Also, try reading in vertical mode so the hinge underlines where you're reading.