Microsoft Event - New Surface Studio Laptop 2

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Microsoft held an event today and while the hardware announcements played second fiddle to all the Ai news there is still some cool stuff rolling out this fall.
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[@GeekingAround]

It’s really sad that Panos is leaving. He seem like the only guy at Microsoft that was wanting to innovate. I had 2 Surfaces before I switched back to Mac and they ran great for me. As an artist first time see the Surface Studio and Surface Laptop Studio, I had tears of joy in my eyes. Microsoft made the computers that I want Apple to make. And it was all thanks to Panos.

[@Mystic_Dragon_Art]

According to Business Insider Panos left because his division was being shrunk and Microsoft cut some upcoming products. Speculation: It seems Microsoft is once again de-prioritizing the consumer market for Windows. The biggest hit is that Panos had a direct line with the CEO and could at least argue for consumer interests, but now that division will be an extra step removed just as it was during Windows 10. I was amazed to learn that the Windows division did not have that direct line to the CEO during the Windows 10 era, unlike the other important divisions, but you can really tell by how little Windows advanced other than the Surface line itself. Panos' promotion at the Windows 11 launch was huge and meant that Microsoft was taking the consumer facing side of Windows seriously again. Now that's over. Once again those pushing for better consumer products and better design overall will be reporting to a person, who reports to a person, who reports to a person. The results of this we already saw during the Windows 10 era. I'd guess Panos' influence will still be felt in next year's Windows 12 release but after that I'm betting Windows is going to get very stagnant again.

[@trowawayacc]

Windows 11 was a huge flop. No wonder he got demoted. I tried windows 11 and boy that was so family different. Many functions had new homes for no good reason. Over all a really confusing update. If that was his baby alone i can see why he is gone.

[@NopWorks]

I'm worried for the future of Windows now. Yeah, Windows have a direction right now which is AI, but for how long? They will eventually ran out of things to AI-ify, or the hype will die down & no longer worth it for Microsoft, or AI will become "too ordinary" that it can no longer be a selling point. Under Panos' design & consumer-minded leadership, Windows 11 now has consistent design on everything a typical user will face in day-to-day use. It has the biggest & most consistent design & visual refresh since Windows 7. Touch friendliness also improved a ton from Windows 10 which is great for Surface. It feels so delightful using Windows 11 after using Windows 10 for many years. Will history repeat itself again? When Windows lead Joe Belfore left the company, Windows 10 was left drifting aimlessly without a clear direction, as features keeps being stacked on without care for design & user experience, and things get abandoned. _Remember how every new feature was shoved into the taskbar without a second thought?_ It's also worrying for Surface. Surface could be left on iPhone-style product refresh only, with no new features except minor ones, no new product lines, and lack any kind of innovation - even small ones. and touch friendliness could be forgotten again which isn't good for Surface.

[@Mystic_Dragon_Art]

@@trowawayacc He wasn't fired or demoted. He left Microsoft to take a job at Amazon. This isn't a good thing for Microsoft, it likely means Windows will flounder without direction for years. The only one this benefits is Apple.

[@theinktician]

The prices have gotten completely out of control. It's saddening, and I'm wondering who the artists are that can afford this -- and whether they'd even choose this over other digital art devices for their workspace. It was widely considered overpriced *last* time when it started at $1600 without dedicated graphics (did the pen even come with it last time?) And now I'm learning we have to pay $2000 for a laptop with no GPU??? I don't even get a TB of storage? It's beyond pathetic - and this could go for the Surface Laptop Go too - $800? Just for build quality? Good grief

[@Antoto96]

These aren’t for hobby or amateur artists but Professional Illustrators, Graphic Designers, and Concept Artist who actually do spend a lot on tools including tablets.

[@TheInternetIsDeadToMe]

@@Antoto96It’s marketing nonsense.

[@ColossalM]

​@@Antoto96those people are just gonna get cintiqs

[@nascentnaga]

they will get a wacom@@Antoto96

[@kostya_stankevych]

Dude, why are you posting the same comment under different videos about MS event? 🤔

[@elsyee3457]

"if you waana make some eggs you gotta break a few omelettes" 😭

[@thebradcolbow]

I'm glad someone caught that 🤣

[@NopWorks]

I love my broken omelettes 😋

[@MattHalpain]

You are an amazing man to me Brad. You are great and expert at your own style of art. You teach others how to do art. I love your YT channel.

[@thebradcolbow]

Thank you so much 😀

[@ExultantTJ]

Nice products, as always. And terrible pricing, worse than always.

[@q.uantum]

For real! I would rather get the MacBook Air 13". People always say Apple products are overpriced but after seeing THIS? Nah.

[@oo--7714]

@@q.uantum eh the has a 4050/60 (and 40 series Nvidia gpus are expensive lol) in it so……, and the performance is a lot faster than an air 13. So…….

[@BarbellThor]

This is it. High end specs. Can draw. Can do what high end internals need to for editing, etc. Is, yes bulky, but also a tablet in ONE device. Will game. This is the only device you need. High price, but it's at least two devices in one.

[@benjamina6915]

So can devices from Lenovo, Samsung and Asus, at better prices and with arguably better hardware. At least Lenovo gives a Wacom powered Pen and so does Samsung. I'll take those any days of a MS pen.

[@kamm3021]

Asus Rog Flow X16 is a 16" screen and can do everything surface laptop studio 2 can and more for a cheaper price Check it out

[@jefffuhr2393]

No pen support? If that's true, it's sort of a different use-case than the Surface lineup. Not better or worse. Just different.@@kamm3021

[@theinktician]

@@kamm3021 It's a better laptop, but it's pen sucks. Of course, if Microsoft allowed Asus to use MPP 2.5 it would have been a competitor for the Laptop Studio 2

[@elsyee3457]

Im getting the original SLS i5/512gb for university and art I REALLY wish they thought of adding usb A sooner because it would be so handy considering most of my peripherals are wired

[@zenroles]

Microsoft is sadly caught between consumers and OEMs. They can afford to reduce the price if they want, but that will upset their partners who build Windows devices. With Panos leaving, I feel the time for Surface is coming to an end. I hope I'm wrong though.

[@markanthonyart]

I recently got the older version and super happy with it and draw a lot more because of the convenience. For 2d artists I don't think the upgrade is worth it. Addition of micro SD is like "what?" Just use a dock or a dongle. This refresh is nice, but more beneficial for 3d artists.

[@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer]

The minute Apple announces the rumored 14 and 16 iPad Ultra models running MacOS and powered by future M chipsets, it’s game over for Microsoft’s Surface products. An iMac with touch support and Apple Pencil you say? RIP Microsoft Studio.

[@pixelpusher1393]

Apple has made it quite clear that they will neither equip their tablets with a regular MacOS, nor make their their iMacs or MacBooks pen and touch enabled. Much though I have hoped for something like that, there´s no indication this will ever happen. Apple is steadfast in their refusal to cater to the convertible market. Now, a 14 inch iPad Pro is a possibility, but nothing but a rumor so far. When and if such a device will be released, it will still have iPad OS though. Right now it´s only Microsoft and Samsung that are giving us the devices Apple should have introduced a long time ago.

[@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer]

@@pixelpusher1393Yeah, I’m not holding out hope anymore but it’s good to keep up with the rumors. It’s why I told myself the 2024 iPad Pro will be the last one I buy until they announce a MacOS version with a vented fan-cooled chassis. I have the 2020 pre-M1 12.9 model currently. Gonna get the largest storage and RAM configuration in 2024 for future proofing and that will be it for me. Donezo. The few reasons I keep buying the iPad Pro are ProCreate, Shapr3D, Affinity, and the upcoming ProCreate Dream. Everything else is a nightmare with iPadOS. You get accessories and flash drives stop working after you update the OS, you can’t have apps run in the background, you can’t have internet downloads running in the background, the files system is so f’in basic, you can’t change resolution in internet browser video players, the multitasking split screens mode is subpar and it’s completely useless in vertical rotation. Yeah…… I’m not gonna justify all the powerful hardware unfortunately being capped by a glorified iPhoneOS anymore.

[@istvan.design]

@@pixelpusher1393 They made it clear, but they are bleeding on the stock market nowadays so everything could happen. It would be easy for them to run full on Mac OS X on an iPad Ultra.

[@michaelbriseno7501]

Pronounced "Ada" like the name of someone, because it's indeed named after "Ada Lovelace" first programmer, during the 1800s. Great vid! Unfortunately I'm going to hold back on buying one of these, I've been looking at that Asus Proart!

[@maxrinehart4177]

The pro art can be drawn on?

[@velvi8359]

​@@maxrinehart4177they are working on a drawing monitor, it's not out yet though.

[@michaelbriseno7501]

@@maxrinehart4177 i dont think directly to the screen, but it does come with a stylus that you can use on the trackpad like a tablet.

[@theinktician]

"Ada" has two name pronounciations

[@thelightspeeddash6329]

@@michaelbriseno7501 thats great. They used to let you draw on the screen - which was hilariously pointless. If you were heavy-handed you could say goodbye to the hinges. Glad they fixed that - and i hope the trackpad is HUGE

[@RyanParreno]

If you compare the experiment that OEMs did with Windows computers before and after the Surface, you can really see that Panos Panay had a tangible impact. Surface devices pushed what computers could do in ways that Apple did not, and we're all the more better for it Panos could do radical things with Amazon's IOTs and tablets, or maybe we can see him do things that he couldn't under Microsoft. Looking forward to finding out

[@Michaelpkennedy]

The slim pen 2 came out 2 years ago, so that's the same one you already have

[@thebradcolbow]

Well crap, I just spent to much money 🤣

[@ahmad.mozaffar]

Got the 1st gen of the Surface Laptop Studio, and it is one of the best purchases I have ever bought, now I will be going to the new generation for sure depends on the local price in the area

[@markanthonyart]

For artists, there are good pen options for $40. I have the Renaisser and Meta Pen and they are just as good or better for drawing than the slim pen 2

[@giratinalight]

Hi so just wondering does the renaisser works well with any surface go since they're more of like budget

[@markanthonyart]

@@giratinalight I'm not sure. Would have to check their compatibility list on their website

[@iHeartGameDev]

Can I ask how artists/video editors are able to "undo" when in tablet mode? I'm looking to use the Surface Studio Laptop for Blender and Davinci and I'm wondering how people normally undo their actions

[@eagleeatsmonkey3621]

love your review ... can you review Lenovo also? like the new p12 or the new tab extremen? are those good for artist?

[@smdave8353]

how is it different from its predecessor (microsoft laptop studio)

[@supersnail5000]

I conceptually love the idea of this all-in-one, polymorphic device that changes to your needs, but the reality really catches up to this dream. Theres definitely an elegance in efficiency to it, and keeping all your files and software consistent is nice, but theres so many scenarios where separate devices are just better. If you're a student, a separate tablet and laptop woukd let you take notes while watching a video lecture. It also becomes unwieldy to use in the tablet profile, particularly given the quantity of software unoptimized for touch, while making trade-offs in performance terms in the laptop profile. Those trade-offs become a lot harder to swallow when you're likely paying a price premium over getting say an ipad and macbook seperately.

[@mashfour]

Brad...what do you think of the Lenovo P12 Pro?

[@bharat5194]

Glad to see they've finally caught up with 'almost' modern day specs. Sad to see that Panos Panay, the Chief with vision is no more a part of the team.

[@AdamWEST-yu2os]

Time traveller here. I'm first last an everything in between.

[@fablewalls]

At 2:52 - those are some crazy wobbly lines man! That can't be the latest Slim Pen I hope? On AI at Microsoft - yep, my day job is in the corporate world now and Microsoft did a presentation to us this week about generative and other forms of AI with 365. Microsoft has pretty much grabbed everyone's business storage with 365 and AZURE and they are now throwing AI at it.

[@victorart-]

Thank you for the information.

[@yannalaplageable]

Hi Brad, I'm wondering what you think about the windows and drawing apps ? I'm the designer behind Tayasui Sketches and we are thinking of porting it to windows but I'm not sure there is a market for a "small" drawing app on windows. Your thought about that ? Would you be happy to see a new contender for new drawing app on windows ? Thanks for sharing. And thanks for your videos !

[@김홍준-s2h]

Did they add anti reflective coating for this version?

[@elizabethmadrid405]

Just ordered the first surface studio laptop, ill keep it for a couple of years and trade it in for this one in the future. I will have everything i need on the first studio, but having that new graphics card on the studio 2 will be really nice. Its not something i anytime soon.

[@alsims2007]

slim pen 2 is the same pen from the last set of device launches. the first slim pen was kind of terrible.

[@martyboi]

When do you think will they release surface pro 10?

[@NopWorks]

I follow Windows news, and it could be some time next year, with a slim chance of a new pen.

[@martyboi]

@@NopWorks Thanks for the reply, where did you get that info from? Why next year and not this year 😭

[@NopWorks]

@@martyboi Surface Pro delay news came from Windows Central. I read them frequently. As for why, this year is a year of cutbacks & belt tightening at Microsoft like other tech companies, and tons of devices were delayed. Even the historic & iconic Microsoft-branded keyboard & mouse division was ended entirely with only Surface-branded ones going forward. The reason is that the Surface team was told to change (delay) plans & only focus on the most popular devices that bring in the most revenue. If it weren't for this order, this year would see lots more Surface devices & refreshes, including a complete redesign of Surface Go & a brand new 11inch Surface Pro which I'm still looking forward to.

[@anonymoususer8604]

Surface go 4 was also silently released but only for commercial customers. Other than a spec bump there are no external changes. People are saying that Panay left because Microsoft was canceling and shelving projects that were in the works. And it seems like that’s true.

[@andyH_England]

Yes, MS hardware PC sales have been poor and are not growing. With the general PC downturn, there is no medium-term advantage for MS to be a player.They may come back when Windows on ARM becomes usable.

[@kirinch.8897]

i have a question about hardware, which one is better, pen displays or 2 in 1 laptops, most 2 in 1 laptops needs battery for their pens and i can't draw on many places with the pen displays

[@imcleem]

Hi ! Is the surface laptop studio 2 compatible with different styluses ?

[@fatbee77]

it came with gpu...wow...all in one for 3d artist...nice

[@pixelpusher1393]

Not sure if I understood this right: Have there been changes made to the Slim Pen 2? There was no mentioning of this during the event, so I thought it stayed identical to how it was released in 2021, but maybe not. Does anyone know whether there´s a newer version of Microsoft Pen Protocol as well? In 2021 it was MPP 2.5, and that has stayed - until now maybe. Would be more than cool if MS had actually given their pen technology another boost!

[@unleashthedog]

Windows 8, massively underrated.

[@snaildunk]

Make a wacom one 13 touch review

[@djgrau7554]

4. Still going on the 6 . Looks like they shattered the bed. Not getting 5th.

[@ashutoshjha9147]

Make edges soft.

[@thefloorhasgone]

64bg version on the wish list 😎

[@Marqk-]

You can always plug in an external ssd you can’t plug in (easily and mobile) a gpu

[@thebradcolbow]

That's a good point. Also with the micro SD card slot it's kinda like having the option for an an extra drive in there.

[@Marqk-]

@@thebradcolbow yup, as an video editor looking forward to your review

[@aaronlea-art]

Brad, I'm a Cintiq user, how does drawing compare on the original Surface Studio Laptop? I travel a lot, and deadlines always seem to land when I'm away from my 27" Cintiq. I'm always throwing money at possible tablet travel solutions, but all have been lousy (the best is still my Cintiq 16 Pro with a Windows laptop, since the iPad isn't ideal for a production environment with my workflow). I was hoping the recent Huion Kamvas Studio 16 (all-in-one) would work, but not only was it under powered, I had two units die on me (both while I was out of the state) and Huion finally just refunded my money. Thoughts on the Surface for drawing, and is there a pen for it that isn't flat with the same quality as the Slim Pen 2?

[@pixelpusher1393]

Slim Pen 2 is about 85%-90% there, just not quite. The biggie for me: Initial activation force is higher than with Wacom, so you do not have this rock solid confidence that each contact between pen tip and display registers. Plus it feels like hard plastic on totally smooth glass, not like the frosted surface of a Cintiq. Still, there are artists who use the MS SLS for artwork, so it seems to be possible. Since you already have a Wacom Cintiq 16 Pro, you just might want to stick with it. But why do you think that even the Wacom Cintiq 16 Pro is a lousy solution for a mobile workspace?

[@JohnSmith-gb8hd]

@@pixelpusher1393The Slim Pen 2 on the Surface Pro 8/9 and Surface Laptop Studio 1/2 have zero initial activation force and the haptic pen feedback makes it feel like writing on paper.

[@pixelpusher1393]

@@JohnSmith-gb8hd Much though I´d like to believe that, that was not my experience when I rented the SP8 for one month in 2022. When laying down many small and very light pen strokes in rapid succession (much like stippling with pen and ink), I didn´t have the impression the pen tip would register on the display each and every time in PS. Setting the refresh rate from 60 to 120Hz did help some, but didn´t get rid of this problem entirely.

[@aaronlea-art]

​@@pixelpusher1393 The Wacom Cintiq 16 Pro is a fine device, but it confuses TSA. The times I have checked it with my luggage I leave notes with a QR code regarding the specs because they think it has lithium batteries (it always gets inspected and they leave a little note), but when I treat it as a carry on, it always seems to get pulled at security and they question it. Plus it means I'm having to bring both a laptop and the Cintiq, which is just more weight. Finally, the need for all the cords that the Cintiq requires just is cumbersome when you're trying to work in confined spaces. I'm 6'4", so I already have a large footprint.

[@itsmariannebaby]

The Surface Slim Pen 2 has been out since the first Laptop Studio and Pro 9 were released, so that's nothing new, hence why they didn't talk about it :)

[@jamesbullo]

I miss the Surface Book...😢 Studio just doesn't cut it.

[@ericneo2]

Have they finally put the 5G modem into the x86_64 Surface Pro?

[@mojojojoart]

🎉

[@DieBestenGetestet]

How about a 15 inch oled Display and more battery life ? Would be nice 🤔

[@kelvindean]

Why doesn't Microsoft list the supported languages on its product page? That can be cumbersome, depending on where one lives. • Americas: English, Spanish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Japanese • Europe: English, Catalan, Czech, Danish, German, Estonian, Spanish, Basque, French, Galician, Croatian, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Hungarian, Dutch, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Serbian, Finnish, Swedish, Turkish, Greek, Bulgarian, Russian, Ukrainian, Arabic, Thai, Japanese • APAC: English, Indonesian, Vietnamese, Thai, Korean, Japanese, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese • Korea: English, Korean • China: English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese • Japan: English, Japanese (Samsung supports the most display languages on a Windows device as of 2023.)

[@siew2738]

Slim Pen 2? Let us know how the pen line looks like when drawing slow diagonal lines on Surface Laptop Studio 2 :D

[@Anti-AntiAintI]

The prices are crazy. But the current highest end SLS is having a hard time with AI video and imagery. If the SLS2 is better in these areas, then what choice do you have? You're basically carrying around a decently powerfu laptop with a graphics tablet built in.

[@NEWGHOST9]

Gawd, i dont even wanna watch the rest of the video sounds like a bad event if half of it was about more aweful stuff, like why does all these companies keep insisting this inherently flawed technology is a good thing, whether it be plagiarism software for writing or art, or weird machine learning bloatware. It needs to stop. Just hearing what they shared at the showcase makes me lose faith that this device will stand up to what already exists

[@yannpoco]

Why not buy an iPad + Macbook with the same price but better expensive?

[@Roosader]

You literally own a Surface Slim Pen 2 haha. Thats what you use with your Surface Laptop Studio 1

[@djbotello]

I talked to someone from Microsoft today about it. The new pen does not come with the new 2k surface studio 2. If you get the new 130 pen, you need the charger for 35 bucks lol I need a new laptop but man, this is a JOKE. 2k minimum for a laptop emphasizing pen input and it doesn't come with it. If you want it, it's another 130 bucks. After spending 130 bucks on the pen, if it dies, you need to spend 35 bucks to be able to use it again 😂😂😂😂😂 I love Microsoft but they need to make it come with this laptop and it needs to be rechargeable on this laptop specifically since it's 2k MINIMUM. This is actual comedy HAHA. Personally, 2k minimum, even if it comes with the pen that self recharges on the laptop via wireless charging (it's 2023, no excuses on why it doesn't), IS WAY TOO MUCH FOR A LAPTOP that will NEEDED to be UPGRADED in like 5 years. That's insanity man.

[@yannpoco]

Surface design hasn’t been changed since 2019. It’s obvious that Microsoft has stopped investing in the Surface lineup. 😢 There was a time that Surface Pro 3 was so competitive to Apple. Now they are just left far behind Apple.

[@marcodimario9918]

Thanks for this quick review. Price tag apart, this is always a very capable and interesting device. But, from a point of view of a general purpose laptop it's too much expensive, and for a device that want to be a really good device for digital artists...the iPad Pro is still miles away from it. Simply another level. Both software and hardware wise. Only the OS is worse on the iPad.

[@BarbellThor]

Totally agree. A standalone tablet doesn't compare to a full device. This blows away the iPad.

[@homidjohn]

wait, it's not the same Slim Pen 2 as they put out with Surface Pro 8 ? I clearly remember you talking about it and how it was improvement ofer the original Slim Pen

[@thebradcolbow]

I'll have to go back and look, but I think that improved pen was just called the Slim Pen

[@homidjohn]

@@thebradcolbow no, there was the first Slim Pen that debuted alongside the Pro X, then came the refresh for Pro 8 that's stayed compatible with the Surfaces that followed

[@jkroiss]

Controversial i know, its time to get rid of 8 gigs of ram and 128 gig hard drives move on 12 gig ram and 256 gig minimum

[@lostonegrey1555]

64gb, overkill for drawing but fantastic if your doing 3d work.

[@MeOhMeYNot]

So it should handle Lumion then, right? I sure hope so as I’m tempted to get one for myself 👀

[@lostonegrey1555]

@@MeOhMeYNot Thats something you might have to check lumions software requirements first. But with its highest ram and cpu, i strongly believe it could run zbrush and blender quite well.

[@dsigner]

really? it is hard to find 120hz laptop? really? under what rock do you live in?

[@dhoubidane]

Microsoft price is really incredibly expesive More than Apple No graphic card at 2k $? For 7hours use ??

[@fugitive6549]

it's got touch screen, bozo.

[@TerraEmperor1]

Loving these updates. Going to pass on this device. A good tablet is the way to go for digital drawing. Don't ever see myself trying of use a laptop for drawing again

[@kamm3021]

⛔⛔⛔ 3300$ for an Rtx 4060 laptop is crazy Building an RTX 4070 12GB PC + 1440P monitor will cost less than 1500$

[@BarbellThor]

Yes. Monitor

[@kamm3021]

​@@BarbellThoryou can get a decent gigabyte 1440p 27" monitor for less than 300$

[@benjamina6915]

Missed some of the news? I missed all of it, updates don't interest me. But in all honesty neither does the Surface interest me, simply because of the price. It's like Wacom, charge top dollar for technology that everyone else has for less and most of them offer more for that less. I'll stick to paying less. My Lenovo with very pleasant trackpad and Wacom powered pen suits me well... at half of the price of the cheapest Surface laptop.... and at half price of the entry level Sutface laptop, Lenovo even threw in a 1Tb SSD, more powerful CPU and GPU and a QHD Screen. Imagine that for $1000.

[@makroshlyta]

If you need to travel to buy a Surface product, DON"T BUY! They don't offer support outside selling areas. Maintenance is hellish, you need to disassemble the entire product just to get the part id you need. 3 years after launch they just don't make new parts to replace. All parts is tailored made for this, can't find a generic replacement, even for a simple start button. 💸

[@divyanshbhutra5071]

I'm just thinking that why is Microsoft 1 generation behind with their chipsets... They released this new laptop right after Intel unvieled their next gen chips, which apparently have some insane uogrades... Who's gonna buy this outdated crap when there are laptops with way better chips at better price

[@jat9926]

Copilot is just Skynet with extra steps

[@trowawayacc]

Co pilot is evil clippy. 😂 like how badgy turned out. Also price is BS. Like dam! I think the samsung ultra is the thing to get right now

[@kamm3021]

⛔ Idk what's wrong with you, every time they release a high end product you always get the one without dedicated GPU which is a bad idea because you do graphics and video editing

[@MoviesEater]

third, I guess?

[@rudikruger5501]

I'm here first

[@andyH_England]

I'm afraid I have to disagree that MS has set bars on PCs. The opposite is applicable. The Surface Duo was a total disaster that was put out of its misery recently. The Surface Pro was supposed to start Windows Tablets (again), but now even MS no longer calls it a tablet as it trails iPadOS and Android tablets, and few OEMs care about this (Samsung gave up). The Surface Studio only gets updated every few years because it is a niche product with few buyers, most affiliated with MS. It succeeded when it copied with the Surface Laptop, but that does not count as MS didn't start that. The Surface Neo never made it to the general public. The Surface Go is just one of many ultrabooks and offers no added value for its high price. The big guns at MS decided that the hardware division is not really doing it and that money would be better invested in the core businesses of data and software. I can quickly agree with that.

[@NopWorks]

If it weren't for Surface, Windows laptops would still be ugly plastic sandwich no matter how high-end it is. And I'm glad that Surface injected some much needed motivation into Windows OEMs.

[@andyH_England]

I think Apple set the standard, not the Surface. It was just MS was one of the first to copy Apple with higher-quality aesthetics. Apple are the reason Windows machines and Intel in particular are getting better. So I disagree there.@@NopWorks

[@huyquang4149]

I wonder if any real professionals actually use these devices. The idea and hardware seems amazing, but the price and upgradability is horrendous.

[@cotoXD]

As someone who owns a surface book 2, look elsewhere if you want something long term

[@enova9758]

Price is so bad😢😢😢

[@dutelatte2154]

too expensive, ipad better for draing I think.

[@dplj4428]

PANOS PANAY ---amazon devices and services.