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@wout123100
@wout123100 2 күн бұрын
this is not a beta, only a server test,,dont people understand this is far from the final product on subjects. lighting is better, close groudn is better, flight behaviour is better, not sure why poeple complain so much.
@NicolajFlies
@NicolajFlies 2 күн бұрын
It’s going to be like this. It’s going to be terrible just like 2020.
@trainsofnorway9664
@trainsofnorway9664 2 күн бұрын
And you know that how?​@@NicolajFlies
@NicolajFlies
@NicolajFlies 2 күн бұрын
@@trainsofnorway9664 - because ASOBO is a terrible developer, and it’s very evident already.
@NicolajFlies
@NicolajFlies 2 күн бұрын
@@trainsofnorway9664 - because ASOBO is a terrible developer.
@NicolajFlies
@NicolajFlies 2 күн бұрын
@@trainsofnorway9664 - because the developer is absolutely terrible at their job.
@mikegc3816
@mikegc3816 Күн бұрын
The truck doing multiple 180s at 5:25 made me chuckle. Nice to see the road traffic has improved
@justinallen2285
@justinallen2285 Күн бұрын
It tracks real-time traffic. That guy is handling his truck like a boss :)
@johnt7155
@johnt7155 Күн бұрын
Probably Evri 😂
@lvx4408
@lvx4408 2 күн бұрын
Not directed at VR Flight Sim Guy but more so comments section in general: I cant relate to those who overly complain about something like this sim. I mean, it is a miracle to me that it even exists in the first place. Let it evolve. Age of entitlement.
@FluffyBunnyFeet
@FluffyBunnyFeet 2 күн бұрын
Yes! We are bastards who should not use critical thinking! Also Monty Python obligatory reference : "I'd like to complain about people complaining about things". Its an Alpha and we'll have time to use Game Pass to try it and keep MSFS 2020 for stability. Asobo's reputation is to deliver on time and incomplete. My concern after playing with the Alpha is the stuttery nature of it. I have ideal spec - except for the RAM. I'll be curious to see if the Alpha works better with more RAM. For those who fly the same general area, the old cache system is in place and they won't need to deal with internet traffic to get their photogrammetry etc. Note to those who have X3D processors - its was using eight cores *equally*. At about 50 percent occupancy. That's impressive. Lastly, cockpit shadows are no longer janky (they were an 8-bit nightmare). They look real now. This may be an RTX-only feature, mind you. Seeing the shadows crawl around the bumps on the Cessna's interior, very nice.
@pumpkineater23
@pumpkineater23 2 күн бұрын
@@FluffyBunnyFeet Agreed. What we need is constructive criticism that highlights the problems. There's always one of those people that gets their little buzz by taking the moral high ground and criticising others' feedback.. it isn’t helpful or necessary.
@DaveJ6515
@DaveJ6515 Күн бұрын
Maybe a simple fact escapes you: the only purpose of this tech alpha is to discover hidden bugs and to stress the systems. So they are EXPECTING people to speak up about problems they found. For example, if the game is jerky and a stutterfest, they (and I) will want to know. Understood? Oh btw ... I have had ALL PC flight simulators that came out since 1979, so I know perfectly well where we are. And I know perfectly well that, before they give us the walkies simulator, the zoo simulator, marine wildlife simulator, and firefighters simulator, what I expect from a FLIGHT simulator is to be smooth, with NO stutters, to have a great flight model, a great ground handling model, no exaggerated ballooning on the runway, nice looking, realistic clouds, and great looking runways and taxiways with appropriate lighting at any time of day and night. I know that we didn't get there with msfs2020, where I can see all the houses where I lived in four different continents, and that's kinda cute, but I still have that stutter on short final which destroys the immersion, and the morphing textures, and the awful clouds, and so on.
@viktorianas
@viktorianas Күн бұрын
Graphics on the ground is like BF3-ish quality level, which is mind-boggling how amazing it is! There is a real chance we will get driving and boats later on, imagine Forza Horizons on the WHOLE WORLD? Or truck simulator? 🤯🤯🤯
@DMan-ud6bt
@DMan-ud6bt Күн бұрын
@@FluffyBunnyFeet Unless you can see that you're using 100% of your 32GB RAM, then I don't see how adding more would make a difference. If you're maxing it out, then yeah you need more.
@Lonsome1223
@Lonsome1223 2 күн бұрын
As a real world pilot albeit a long time ago I'm more than happy with MSFS 2020 and VR it really is very close to the real experience.
@jimj2683
@jimj2683 2 күн бұрын
Those autogen buildings look terrible. I don't know why they don't use more AI to make Bing Streetside and Maps into 3d. A generative type of AI could get extremely good at filling out missing details and making things look accurate when up-close. Photogrammetry can be very good, but is too expensive to capture for every area on the planet.
@trainsofnorway9664
@trainsofnorway9664 2 күн бұрын
They are going to update the autogen buildings later, they said so.
@johnjacobsen4003
@johnjacobsen4003 2 күн бұрын
@@trainsofnorway9664 LOL!
@kwt1344-px7hy
@kwt1344-px7hy 2 күн бұрын
This isn't the final product of the game... This is a build of the game that has most of the stuff removed so they can test the stress on the servers. The actual final build will be 20x better. This is nowhere near what it will look like in a months time
@oliverk.9542
@oliverk.9542 Күн бұрын
@@kwt1344-px7hy they already said blackAI is out like years, they can't deliver what they want for autogen, so they get an in-house autogen, but later perhaps not even 2025.
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
Interesting you said this. You probably don't know the backstory but this work was done by Blackshark AI and well they've been blacklisted LOL! They no longer work with Microsoft and the work done wasn't up to snuff, so Microsoft and Asobo are doing this in-house. It's going to take a little while before the friuts of this becomes apparent in the sim, it would have been great to see this in MSFS 2024, but sadly that's not to be.
@ComdrStew
@ComdrStew 2 күн бұрын
I really love the walk around. I was getting ready to say, UK weather is beautiful today, then you click on Live Weather, lol.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 2 күн бұрын
😂
@opafritzsche
@opafritzsche Күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy default cessna again have Garmin 2000 :( not nice. So i think the Analog will be again the more price ? Or is no analog insice anymore ? ( all other plains are not interesting, i only flight C172 analog, i own an own, and i do not like garmin 2000).
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
@@opafritzsche WTF dude. I run alot and use Garmain watches, what the hell is wrong with Garmain G2000 (Working Title have redone all the Garmins), are you a technophobe?
@greg_mid_tn3150
@greg_mid_tn3150 Күн бұрын
The 'online' part is worrying. I wonder if they'll give us the option to go ahead and download the whole program/dlc like we can with 2020?
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
It's a myth that online is worrying. You need to be online for any game these days. If you think you can play any game offline forget it, offline is just not a thing in 2024. I have pretty slow 72Mbps broadband and it's absolutely fine playing the Tech Alpha.
@greg_mid_tn3150
@greg_mid_tn3150 Күн бұрын
@@dtrjones I guess I worded my comment incorrectly. I'm not worried about playing the game offline (I know we can't do that) but worried about performance of so mush data being served up to so many players. While I appreciate that you have not had any issues with the tech alpha, the full game will be pushing much more data.
@barthvapour
@barthvapour 23 сағат бұрын
​@@dtrjonesit's comical that you scoff at concerns over Internet speed and think yours is slow. About 40% of the land area of the UK can't get above about 30 Mbs.
@utd4life128
@utd4life128 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for actually taking the time to comment and look at live weather / atmospherics, much appreciated not seeing yet another video of the Grand Canyon.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 2 күн бұрын
My absolute pleasure 😊
@poochies0316
@poochies0316 2 күн бұрын
@@mitcherny6965 lol me too that's the first thing i'll be sampling but on my crappy internet nothing is loading in so big skip for me
@Maxley..
@Maxley.. 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for the vid. My plan is to wait for MSFS2024 to get patched, improved and debugged. Nothing tests a product like releasing it to millions of discerning users. It'll be 2025 before I even consider it. This isn't a criticism: I'm just being pragmatic. I've worked in video game dev for 30 years and know that the longer I can wait, the better the build I install will be. And the more third-party add-ons, enhancements, fixes,tweaks etc. will be available, tested and improved. I'm eager to play this but it's like wanting to reach the North Pole: I'll have a far easier journey if I follow the experts plunging ahead in their ice-breakers.
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
I must admit I would have scoffed at your comment, before I actually tried the Tech Alpha, and now that I have, you are probably right. Please folks don't get me wrong, it's looking amazing, it's just that there's a lot to fix before it can become as stable and ready for mainstream consuption as MSFS 2020 is and unless they have provided an older release for this test, then I can't see it being ready by November 19th. It's just not possible.
@bigcrackrock
@bigcrackrock Күн бұрын
Yeah I planned on my personal release date being at least a quarter year after the actual release. I rarely buy any sort of software day one now days.
@jonmabec
@jonmabec 2 күн бұрын
I don't mind it being an evolution of MSFS 2020 rather than a revolution. Because MSFS 2020 still kicks ass! What I want from this new iteration is better performance, less bugs and good VR support. I agree, don't like the flashy zooming nonsense. It's pretty clear they want it to have this flashy presentation to it, but in the end, it's going to get old pretty quickly. I wish they had focused on the menus being more optimized. So far it seems like they are still as slow as in MSFS 2020.
@DanFrederiksen
@DanFrederiksen 20 сағат бұрын
Also you say it's streaming now, so is it a small install instead of the ridiculous 100GB?
@natedisrud
@natedisrud 15 сағат бұрын
The beta was only a 9gb download, the full game will be a measly 28gb. Much better!
@DanFrederiksen
@DanFrederiksen 14 сағат бұрын
@@natedisrud I guess it's an improvement :)
@PilotGigi
@PilotGigi 2 күн бұрын
What’s the performance in terms of core utilization gpu etc?
@natedisrud
@natedisrud 15 сағат бұрын
Well I can say I have a 4080s and an I7 13700kf at 2k res I'm getting 100-150fps dlss quality and frame generation on. Everything maxed out completely runs smooth so far even on starlink lol cheers hope this helps!
@PocketProjects
@PocketProjects 2 күн бұрын
Great video as always. The takeaway from this is for anyone new to the sim this will blow them away and for those 2020 vets its the update of all updates and a must have. . . albeit a paid one. The lighting as you say looks amazingly lifelike 👏
@houmana.1591
@houmana.1591 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for your honest review-you tell it like it is. We’ll have to wait for the final version. While there are certainly some improvements, based on what we’ve seen so far, I’m not convinced this is a completely new MFS or a full upgrade as initially advertised. It feels like something between an upgrade and an update.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 2 күн бұрын
Thankyou I appreciate that
@acratone8300
@acratone8300 Күн бұрын
Steve, copy your Orbx EGLC and Orbx UK region packs from 2020 community to 2024 community and then refly the same flight. Very big difference!
@leedove7255
@leedove7255 2 күн бұрын
Alpha with only 1 month to release is not good. It should be in final Integration testing by now. Unless Microsoft use different naming to all other SW developers.
@acurisur
@acurisur 2 күн бұрын
It's not that kind of alpha, I can tell you've not got any information on what this alpha is for from your comment. All they're doing is stress testing the servers, the actual sim is finished and is not an "alpha".
@Raubvogel
@Raubvogel 2 күн бұрын
Tech alpha is not synonymous with a traditional alpha. They’re wanting to skim data. When you log in on this tech alpha, you get a splash screen telling you to just play the game (you can report bugs, but that’s not the point).
@burgadahz17
@burgadahz17 2 күн бұрын
a tech alpha is not like the "basic" alpha.
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
You've made a load of assumptions and I'm going to make even more! 🤭 we don't know how old this Tech Alpha version is and how far they've come regarding the final release. They are only testing the pipework (infrastructure) as far as I believe. Until we get the final release, we won't know for sure how far behind they are, but you can bet with the complications of this simulator, there will be stuff to iron out in future SIM updates, 100%. 😂
@leedove7255
@leedove7255 Күн бұрын
To those who replied to this you need to read and understand the third sentence in my comment. I know it is a lot to ask for social media users to get past the 1st 10 words but ....
@SkeletonPirate
@SkeletonPirate Күн бұрын
I really, REALLY hope they do the shared cockpit feature in VR as well... Meaning, you'll be able to see your pilot friend next to you moving his head looking around. VTOL VR does this perfectly.
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
I'm sure they will, but that's some way off and definately won't be in the launch of MSFS 2024.
@s.england.the_sunshine_coast
@s.england.the_sunshine_coast 2 күн бұрын
The weather obviously cleared up again though this afternoon & of course soon returned back to beautiful Autumnal sunny again, (should have waited a few hours)..... It's sunny and 70 every day down here in England right up until November. Maybe try today's test flight (October 12th), in some proper gloomy weather, over in the US during the Hurricane Helene / Hurricane Milton style of gloomy conditions ! 😛
@villeelomaa7836
@villeelomaa7836 7 сағат бұрын
A stupid (?) question. I haven't much flown with MSFS 2020, but when i tested it back then, i noticed that there were no anti-aircraft lights in the high rise houses and there were no radio towers with blinking lights. That kind of lights are important when you fly VFR. I didn't see an any of those in this video either. Do we always need additional scenery for that?
@PaulWasserman
@PaulWasserman 2 күн бұрын
I *REALLY* hope the fix the yawing around in ANY breeze. I have to always shut off any wind in MSFS 2020 because the wind modeling on the aircraft is a joke.
@acratone8300
@acratone8300 Күн бұрын
There is an option for taming that down. 3 settings, high , medium, mild, or something like that.
@SparkySven
@SparkySven 2 күн бұрын
How did you get your controls working so quickly, all profiles are empty and every button & lever needs to be set up, it's crazy they did not add any default profiles for Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo... It's a nightmare but the sim runs so much smoother and better than in MSFS2020 with the same hardware and yes all 12 cores I have on my AMD CPU get used and must be one the the many reasons it runs so much better. I would love to see setup video's like the ones from Mark the simhanger for Yoke & Throttle setup guide.
@sascenturion
@sascenturion 2 күн бұрын
Hi sparky Think mark has a live stream scheduled for tonight. What do you think of burning blue's north weald rendition? ..i parked next to you last night when you were inside the hangar 😊
@SparkySven
@SparkySven Күн бұрын
@@sascenturion North Weald is super. Been busy testing it before release and since MSFS2024 Alpha I've been testing that new sim non stop. No VR yet so not best of fun but got my PPL licnese in the new sim :-) ahaha .. Lots of BBD's airfields need some updates and work for MSFS2024. Flight sim packed weekend.
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
What, that's crazy talk, it takes about 10 minutes to setup HOTAS controls, you make it sound like it takes hours?
@SparkySven
@SparkySven Күн бұрын
@@dtrjones First you don't see any bindings, zero profiles, then go trough a new menu system, you set it up, does not work, make profiles per plane, it start working but not flyable, adjust settings does not help, finaly restart the sim and then it starts working what you need to do with every control you setup. This takes some time and is something MS / Asobo need to work on. We advanced MSFS2020 VR flyers can cope but new sim flyers that flok in will be lost 4 sure I'm guessing. But core engine of the sim is working so so much better, all 12 cores in my AMD Ryzen 9 5900X are now getting used and that improvement in performance is nice to see.
@pumpkineater23
@pumpkineater23 2 күн бұрын
I'm really interested to see how well the sim runs in VR once it's all been tweaked. Fingers crossed we see an improvement.
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
From the Tech Alpha's I've been running on my PC's it's been running great. Only issue I would say its the DLSS implementation leaves a lot to be desired. The scenery in the background looks really blurred and I'm pretty sure would look awful in VR. Right now I'm thinking you can only use TAA and that of course would limit performance on lower end hardware.
@KC-df8lc
@KC-df8lc 2 күн бұрын
Can we get rid of the freaky "Man Buns" in 2024? 😉
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
LOL they worked with a UK company to scan all the heads to create the avatars variations. There are millions of combinations of characters to create, so yes you'll be able to get rid of the Man Buns! 😁
@ShallowDepression
@ShallowDepression 2 күн бұрын
Oh, this looks like the most immersive experience you can have on PC, especially in VR. Had my Crystal Light for a couple of weeks now (first VR experience) Still only watched a couple of films, basic VR physics games and I can't stop playing Aircar.
@RayKit
@RayKit Күн бұрын
Dx12 only for fs2024?
@TTVKenya
@TTVKenya Күн бұрын
How much RAM do you have?
@zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzzz1z
@zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzzz1z Күн бұрын
5:30 truck in the backgroudn doing senseless loops.. my guess they didn't change anything here
@infinitelooptv9939
@infinitelooptv9939 Күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, Steve. I’ve registered for the Aloha test this morning. And I’m waiting, but not sure exactly what for. A confirmation email with the download link? What should happening after completing the survey and all that jazz? Thanks 😊
@stevejones924
@stevejones924 Күн бұрын
That Cessna 172 up close looks fantastic...I can almost sense the feel of the metal..
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy Күн бұрын
Totally agree!
@mikemckee6583
@mikemckee6583 Күн бұрын
The constant yawing is weird, because that very same problem existed way back in the early version of Flight Sim 2020. Asobo eventually fixed that issue, so it’s a little strange that it’s popped back up here, especially because this code is supposed to be overhauled.
@bigbangerz5856
@bigbangerz5856 2 күн бұрын
Tbh once I got over the frustration of controls and mappings, I thought MSFS 2024 was working pretty damn well the experience was good
@loiphin
@loiphin 2 күн бұрын
I dont think the sim will change that much in terms of look and feel , between now and the release in Nov. I fear it will be MSFS 2020 with better loading times and a lick of paint on the UI. I dont really care for the gamey addons. It will hurt to have to pay 150 bucks for that if its truly the case. But I will probably fold and buy it purely because of FOMO. Shift + WASD for seat position, and Shift and Q or E for seat height :) Bindings are a nightmare for now. But as you say its an alpha :/
@Photoshopmanipulator
@Photoshopmanipulator 2 күн бұрын
Are you running it at similar graphic settings that you had with msfs 2020 and if so are you getting similar performance
@RIKAAR_Ambient
@RIKAAR_Ambient Күн бұрын
The Clouds look the same?
@H4GRlD
@H4GRlD Күн бұрын
Do we have FSR support? Upscaling / frame gen? Only saw NVIDIA frame gen in the video. NVM saw FSR 2.0 as well when you enabled DLSS. It's a bummer, hopefully they'll improve on this for team red folks. 😄
@francisbrochu5331
@francisbrochu5331 2 күн бұрын
Can you give us a brief look at career mode and it UI.
@BritishReaction
@BritishReaction 2 күн бұрын
Very much enjoyed testing the alpha today, noticed a few texture issues in several areas but the overall experience is good. I like the "GTA esque" way of going to the aircraft at the beginning! Hoping they are able to optimise it before launch, also concerned about VR capabilities
@Redtail_Pilot
@Redtail_Pilot Күн бұрын
Those lightning bolts..Holy cow! 😳 Speaking of the weather, did you test your motion rig for turbulence telemetry? I'm really hoping to feel more bouncing in my rig.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy Күн бұрын
Not yet!
@AlCook-uc9lj
@AlCook-uc9lj Күн бұрын
It's sunny all the rest of the time and everywhere else in the UK, but decides to switch to real time weather on the one time of the one day at one location that contradicts this. FFS However, it's nothing anywhere like the US, (aka Hurricane Helene or Hurricane Milton).
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy Күн бұрын
Haha nah its not 😅
@DogsGaming6949
@DogsGaming6949 2 күн бұрын
I think they gave us a very old build from like 1 year ago or 2.
@roborat2000
@roborat2000 Күн бұрын
Looks like a step forward from 2020. Good to know that Flight Sims are progressing forward.
@kwikbit
@kwikbit Күн бұрын
I'm still waiting for anybody to tell me how quickly it takes to get to the startup /main menu.... that is my #1 gripe with FS2020.... 🤔
@McFreddie22
@McFreddie22 Күн бұрын
What about the flight physics? Any better than MSFS2020?
@jaymac7203
@jaymac7203 Күн бұрын
All the grass is turned off too but it still looks great! It's going to look incredible when it's released with everything working 😊
@thestatpow5
@thestatpow5 2 күн бұрын
Photogrammetry is in the US only for the Alpha and even there it's not full.
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
Yeah it doesn't include the World Updates yet as they probably still need to be worked on to fit the new satelite imagery.
@michaelduernecker684
@michaelduernecker684 2 күн бұрын
Thank you very much. Do you think, 80mbit stream is ok?
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 2 күн бұрын
Should be OK mate
@GreekSIMRACING
@GreekSIMRACING 2 күн бұрын
Why you don't give osd performance metrics?
@marklangley7135
@marklangley7135 Күн бұрын
I pretty sure your RAM is not the issue
@belgeode
@belgeode 2 күн бұрын
HOLY CRAP yeah turn off your motion rig when doing "light thunderstorm". 😲
@acratone8300
@acratone8300 Күн бұрын
Remember: you can copy stuff from your 2020 Community folder over to your 2024 Community folder. Planes, Airports, etc.
@GizmoMaltese
@GizmoMaltese 2 күн бұрын
So, it 's just better lighting? I suspect we won't even be able to turn on these new lighting effects in VR.
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
Wow you have no idea how VR works. Brave to post such rubbish on a channel devoted to VR!
@guylarochelle9793
@guylarochelle9793 2 күн бұрын
Thanks! Only 1080 ? Run 1440 or 4k at least!
@markm75
@markm75 2 күн бұрын
Linked to my 2020 community folder in the 2024 alpha. Load times were the same about 4min (I have a large set of addins), was hoping fir faster load times but it is alpha
@ColinDyckes
@ColinDyckes Күн бұрын
I think FS2024 is amazing, both in feel and lighting . It's pushing my 4090 to 99% at 4K because of the ray tracing, but my OC'd 14900KS is maintaining 5.9GHz on all the P Cores and between 33 and 50% total load. Can't wait to try VR in the Varjo Aero.
@HlspwnsWorld
@HlspwnsWorld 2 күн бұрын
I would have had my 64GB ram if Amazon had not screwed up my order. If your going to run 4K I’d say it’s an absolute must.
@pj8227
@pj8227 2 күн бұрын
128 GB just to future proof 👍
@HlspwnsWorld
@HlspwnsWorld 2 күн бұрын
@@pj8227 it’s for my current system which is still DDR4. When I build a new pc 128GB DDR5 definitely 👍🏻
@lurchilurch5507
@lurchilurch5507 Күн бұрын
Why would higher resolution directly affect system RAM? Pretty sure it would almost exclusively affect VRAM
@HlspwnsWorld
@HlspwnsWorld Күн бұрын
@@lurchilurch5507 Let’s put it this way. Windows 11 needs 8GB as a minimum to run the OS. Say you run MSFS than can take 20+GB. Then you wanted to run an application such as OBS to record gameplay. Or you have other apps or resources also running. I expect that at 4K it will saturate 32GB so 64GB gives you wiggle room to also do more stuff. Don’t forget that a lot of people run custom peripherals that also take system resources. If your pc is maxed out, you will end up with poor performance. Games esource use system memory, if you want to do multiple things at the same time get more RAM.
@lurchilurch5507
@lurchilurch5507 Күн бұрын
@@HlspwnsWorld Custom apps etc is one thing, but for a long time Ive been running MSFS in VR with resolutions around 5000x4xxxx (per eye! So rendered twice) for quite a while, along with some custom apps and peripherals, and my RAM usage never goes much above 20. So sure, the more things you bolt on the more your RAM is going to be saturated, but raw resolution barely makes a difference.
@paulsleighty
@paulsleighty Күн бұрын
Two tone Murphy said there isn't any photogrammetry for London in msfs 2024 yet Steve.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy Күн бұрын
Rgr that thx mate
@TitaniusAnglesmith
@TitaniusAnglesmith Күн бұрын
I don't have MSFS 2020 myself, so my experience is based on the few times I've flown when home at my dad's for Christmas, but I seem to recall the buildings being better in 2020 than 2024. Perhaps it's just because it's an alpha and they didn't feel the need to make it look great, but I feel the buildings are lacking. The yawing issue is something my dad, who is a real pilot, was complaining about xd Other than that, I am still very excited for this sim.
@Savage_Viking
@Savage_Viking Күн бұрын
Heard the prices are steep, MSFS 2020 looking good again.
@StormyCC
@StormyCC Күн бұрын
What are your specs besides the 4090?
@Brooo0-x6y
@Brooo0-x6y Күн бұрын
CPU: Intel 4090 RAM: ddr4090 ssd: 4090 gb psu: 4090 watt
@yowie69
@yowie69 Күн бұрын
Something I just spotted.. 2024 is using DLSS 2.4.12.0 not the current 3.7.20.0. DLSS swapper tool will enable the upgrade.
@x32i77
@x32i77 Күн бұрын
Quad view dfr native available ?
@TheSkyHawkMT
@TheSkyHawkMT Күн бұрын
Night lighting is terrible right now hoping it gets fixed before relewse. Now you can see the Milky Way anywhere 🤣
@payt01
@payt01 2 күн бұрын
My impressions are really good. Performance seems fine considering all the improvements to the scnery and the fligh model and everything else. I think the biggets improvement is to the scenery.. things such as trees, grass, seasonal crops etc really make a difference.Like you say, it's the amalmagation of all these things that make the sim look and feel much better than 2024. The biggest shock will be goin gback to MSFS 2020 after getting used to 2024 :) Of course it's not perfect, and many features don't work yet (all the AI plane models and liveries, animals, ships, grass, photogrammetry, mesh for specific areas, etc) so there's a lot more to this that we haven't seen yet. But for a first impression this is awesome :)
@rh3223
@rh3223 2 күн бұрын
Thankyou - another interesting look, lighting looks great and autumn is visible in the trees. Very hopeful.
@adriankoch964
@adriankoch964 51 минут бұрын
This looks like it could have been a patch+DLC, but they decided to make into a "new" product and prolly change the mod/store APIs a bit. As long as the threading and dx12/VR performance massively improves, it's okay though. Also would be nice if the terrain could finally compete with Google Maps 3d view. In some highly populated places in the world the difference was stark and not in favor of FS2020.
@Mre942
@Mre942 2 күн бұрын
If you have fsr for AA , that culd make the game run better, usually does for me in other games(run a 3090).
@tyarb9445
@tyarb9445 2 күн бұрын
I'm interested in exploring areas on foot. Can you walk anywhere you want, or are you limited to certain distance of your aircraft? Can you adjust speed of walk to a jog if desired? Is it possible to teleport on foot to landmarks or coordinates on the map? Or must you fly and land there?
@alexb6225
@alexb6225 Күн бұрын
A bit of a concern that VR isn't yet available for users to get their hands on for testing, hope VR isn't again becoming a bit of an afterthought, although I'm sure and hope it will be there later in alpha or beta; would be a big risk to release without at least some critical user feedback. I think waiting for 6 months/year is sensible, time for kinks and bugs to get resolved and compatibility with existing addons, although my impulse for the new shiny thing will win and I'll cave in, going against sensible and buying on or shortly after release 😀
@get_outdoors
@get_outdoors 2 күн бұрын
Windows key + G will give you performance option, not seeing photogrammetry either
@brin57
@brin57 2 күн бұрын
Seems they haven't gotten rid of that weird green tint on the ground !! Disappointing .
@L_Emir_de_Passy
@L_Emir_de_Passy Күн бұрын
Looks spectacular. Cannot wait for vr.
@zarikstory
@zarikstory Күн бұрын
Did you read the NDA?
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy Күн бұрын
Yes. Did you?
@jamessimmons8352
@jamessimmons8352 2 күн бұрын
Not going to touch the pre-release 2024 version since I'm still working to dial in my preferred settings with the new PCL in VR with 2020. I need to get comfortable in a more familiar setting before transitioning to 2024. Your first impressions are certainly welcomed. Thanks! BTW, my ISP (Cable Company) gave me a great deal on 1 Gigabit Internet for several years. Don't absolutely need it, but what the heck. :-) I stopped doing much flying at night because I was annoyed by the fact that highways in rural areas always had streetlights - not very realistic. Hopefully 2024 improves that.
@jonsedgwick5334
@jonsedgwick5334 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for the great video! Despite the Alpha status, I'm very impressed with the look and feel of MSFS2024. The realism of the visuals; the cityscapes, buildings, lighting effects in relation to the atmospherics, is a deal maker. My personal expectations for progress in the sim are satisfied. I will be purchasing next January.
@kencoble3012
@kencoble3012 Күн бұрын
Remember my previous comment on your spins ...push stick forward then rudder ...try and your be surprised, having done many times in gliding and a Yak52..stabilise the nose first then Yaw.
@Mongooseman121
@Mongooseman121 2 күн бұрын
I think I’m going to hold out before upgrading as I have so many addons I need to ensure will work otherwise it’s not worth it to me. Aside from lots of scenery, if the devs of my aircraft especially Fenix, 146,a300 and PA28, along with GSX, FSLTL, beyond ATC, FS2crew, fenix2gsx etc can prove it works along with VR and decent fps then I’ll go through the upgrade pain! Plus I’m expecting lots of bugs in the first 12 months as per usual. Looks good though and the flight dynamics improvements will be very welcome!
@DaveBrown1
@DaveBrown1 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the look around Steve, the elephant in the room no VR yet.
@GarretLarson
@GarretLarson 2 күн бұрын
Why isn't anyone running a benchmark or a fps meter
@theegodelpozo
@theegodelpozo 2 күн бұрын
Because most of youtubers are not aware of what we want to see and keep showing the same. Not this guy's fault, this is not VR.
@seattime4075
@seattime4075 2 күн бұрын
At only a month out from release, I would expect testing of a beta...? I do like the nice clouds and shadows 👍.
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
It's a Game as a Service, I honestly think the rules are different here, it will continue to be updated once launched. If you remember MSFS 2020 wasn't exactly poilished on launch either.
@zuldo8577
@zuldo8577 2 күн бұрын
Looks rough considering its due for release next month
@lurchilurch5507
@lurchilurch5507 Күн бұрын
It's not a recent build, its essentially a network test
@TeaBreak.
@TeaBreak. 2 күн бұрын
Please can you fly round Gibraltar and Also Naples with Vesuvius. Does Pilatus PC21 work with it? Signed up to Insider today. Hopefully another alpha will be released.
@DanFrederiksen
@DanFrederiksen 20 сағат бұрын
Is the flight model responsive? when I bought 2020 and downloaded for 6 hours I was so disappointed by how sluggish the controls were irrespective of framerate that I never played it again. They had one job. You mentioned there at the end that it does feel more responsive. That's good.
@natedisrud
@natedisrud 15 сағат бұрын
Feels better for sure 👍
@doug6072
@doug6072 2 күн бұрын
Let it mature I'm sure in the end it will be a great sim. A ton has been invested in MSFS 2020 so have to see what will and won't transfer (that will be a big, big factor)! My guess is 6-12 months to get the new sim oiled and dialed in? This is new so growing pains and learning curve are usually a roller coaster of sorts. I'm hanging on to 2020 for awhile as it is pretty dialed in and running smooth. As always great video Steve! I'm Still in search of a VR headset....
@geraldthomas8019
@geraldthomas8019 2 күн бұрын
I hope when this game releases, it gets honest reviews. I know we all hype for the releases but if it's just a small upgrade then we need know
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
It's pretty obvious now what the upgrade will be. There's been enough evidence to show what's in the new version.
@strikkflypilot927
@strikkflypilot927 2 күн бұрын
Msi afterburner, I think, could show up
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 2 күн бұрын
Ty!
@sascenturion
@sascenturion 2 күн бұрын
It does 👍
@strikkflypilot927
@strikkflypilot927 2 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy By the way, You should take Your Aero for a spin with the new VB 4.4 software. The stutter is gone. Feels like a new headset. So the support is not dead until the end of next year.
@andyydna5330
@andyydna5330 2 күн бұрын
My only hope is, that they remove the anoying bugs. Light is still rendered differently in left vs right lense. Especially visible when seeing other aircrafts through clouds @night. THANK YOU STEVE FOR YOUR WORK🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@casstephens3124
@casstephens3124 Күн бұрын
Im impressed. Im truly impressed wit what theyve done. Lighting is amazing. Ground details fantastic. And so far i havent run over one taxi light. Lol. And yeah. You dont take out those cowl plugs, she aint starting.
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
Yep I love what I'm seeing in MSFS 2024. Unfortunately for my main RTX 4090 PC I'm getting crashes after only a few seconds, and had to switch to my RTX 2080 Ti PC to test this properly but it does look good. Rememvber London photogrammetry wasn't part of the default sim, it was introduced in a World Update, so that's probably still being worked on given the install was only 10 GBs. Full release should be really entertaining so long as they fix the crashes I'm getting with my PC!
@stevecooksley
@stevecooksley Күн бұрын
As someone who also has a 2080ti, was it up to the job?
@a5cent
@a5cent 2 күн бұрын
Your internet connection is massive overkill for this BTW. You don't need anywhere near 500 MB/s. Are you sure it's actually MB/s (megabyte per second?), because that would be rather insane! The ideal spec published by MS is 100 Mbps (megabit per second). That's 12 MB/s. Nowhere close to 500 MB/s. In Europe 100 Mbps is nothing special. In most places you can't even get internet subscriptions that slow anymore.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 2 күн бұрын
You can, and yes, my speed is 500+ 👍
@a5cent
@a5cent 2 күн бұрын
@@VRFlightSimGuy Weird. The slowest connection I can get from my ISP is 1Gpbs. That is 10x the recommended ideal bandwidth. Congrats on your 500MB/s though 🤣 Insane!
@cowboy10uk
@cowboy10uk Күн бұрын
@@a5centwelcome to the U.K. 1gb is pretty much the max internet speed. Quite a few still only have 4mb if they are lucky. 500 is the average in towns.
@a5cent
@a5cent Күн бұрын
@@cowboy10uk Yeah. I'm getting that I don't understand the UK 😂
@ColinDyckes
@ColinDyckes Күн бұрын
​@@VRFlightSimGuy Steve, all speeds are in MegaBITS per second. 500 is good though. I can only currently get 76Mbps download where I live but that is plenty in the Alpha.
@bakzetary3145
@bakzetary3145 Күн бұрын
HUGE RED FLAG: Demo released within about a month from release and NO VR????? Thanks for the update Steve!
@dtrjones
@dtrjones Күн бұрын
It's a fair point but this will be updated through SIM updates. I'm certainly keen try this on day one, but if folks want to bide there time, that's fine also. I won't be deleting MSFS 2020 in a hurry that's for sure.
@bakzetary3145
@bakzetary3145 Күн бұрын
@@dtrjones Thanks for the reply sir. I have a basic policy, I don't normally pre-order anything and wait a few months after the typical, "Early buggy period" before making a purchase anyways. It was around 6-7 months after 2020 released, etc. Happy simming!!!
@BobDolelol
@BobDolelol 2 күн бұрын
Not enough people understand what this technical alpha is all about, so let me quote what someone else said: Many participants of the tech alpha don't seem to get what the point of it all is. It's about the systems and services in the backend as stated by Asobo before AND after the alpha started. This version is stripped down to the bare minimum for that. It is not for you to check out early how it will look when you get the "final" product. Most of the procedural/ai stuff like rocks, foliage, grass, fields/crops, basically all the new eye candy as seen in the previews and trailers is NOT implemented in this build. Traffic of any kind is made of generic models. The final product on November 19th will be way better than what we’ve seen so far 😏
@DabutCHeR3000
@DabutCHeR3000 2 күн бұрын
They really needed an NDA on this if the quality doesn't represent the finally product
@chadef555
@chadef555 2 күн бұрын
Let's hope so. But it sounds worrying that there are performance stutters in regular flat screen mode when majority of complex textures, effects etc are not in it. Makes me question the claim Microsoft made that 2024 will have better VR support and performance.
@billbaggins1688
@billbaggins1688 7 сағат бұрын
Glad you amended your title. Deleting my comment is pretty thin skinned though.
@BobDolelol
@BobDolelol 7 сағат бұрын
@@billbaggins1688 I didn’t delete anything, though? I don’t have the ability to do that 😶
@jameslee-pevenhull5087
@jameslee-pevenhull5087 2 күн бұрын
MSFS have a Forum, where users can log bugs and name there wishes on a 'wish list'. Asobo put their resources into the most popular bugs and the highest voted wishes. Unfortunately for GA light aircraft flyers, the wish list is predominately Internation Heavy Jet flyers. In this arena, the airports used have 'Game flavour' ATC. In the GA light aircraft arena, who have very few votes on the wish list because most of the users are Heavy Jet flyers, there is no ATC or AFIS at smaller fields. This has been the situation for four years. For GA light aircraft flyers, we have to use our imagination or only fly between medium sized fields with ATC. In REAL Life at small fields, requesting clearance for VFR exists, but not in this sim. For the 2024 generation of this package, IMHO, comms with the Tower at all fields that IRL have comms, should have been on top of the 'to do' list.
@AnthonyRobson-tl6zs
@AnthonyRobson-tl6zs Күн бұрын
OK as long as you got a good internet
@ScopeDK
@ScopeDK Күн бұрын
Mixed feelings too
@bj00rn
@bj00rn 2 күн бұрын
I never expected anything else than MSFS2020 plus back-end and front-end updates and addons, so I'm happy with most of what I see. What I don't like is things like f.ex. that the water reflections STILL is drawn around the edges of the aircraft/cockpit like some sort of strange big gap, it's so ugly.. Hoped they was fixing flaws like that. Anyway, nice video.
@ToBCreations
@ToBCreations Күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!😊 Although I got some mixed feelings about something seen here, especially all the stutters. I do believe FS2024 will be better than the current version eventually. The new platform will have so much more potential regarding scenery and physics. Going forward I also think third party devs can make remarkable things as well, as they already do in FS2020. 😃
@allrednow
@allrednow Күн бұрын
Clearly they've improved masisvely in some areas, lighting and clouds look fantastic and have now rebuilt the foundation of the sim how they probably wanted to in 2020 to facilitate much better performance. My only worry is in showcasing of the game they've gone to town in dialling up the detail in selected areas (Grand Canyon) and the rest of it will not be upto the same standards. The airport looked poor, crappy low-res buildings compared to how good the ones showed off during the launch previews looked l. Exciting times though with this only being the Alpha.
@jointherevolution5577
@jointherevolution5577 2 күн бұрын
The new trees looks way better!
@devanii
@devanii Күн бұрын
lightning looks like 1984
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