MICROSOFT FLIGHT SIMULATOR IN THE PSVR 2 - Better Than G2, Quest 3 and Pimax Crystal Light?

[@mixedrealityTV]

Order PSVR2 PC Adapter from Amazon Germany: amzn.to/3SGfIBL (Affiliate) Order Pimax Crystal Light: pimax.com/pages/crystal-light?ref=mrtv (Affiliate) Order Bigscreen Beyond: bit.ly/3YtEm9x (Affiliate) Are you gonna pick up the PSVR2 for MSFS?

[@charleslindsey6789]

I already have PSVR2. I need the adapter. My machine is running a Ryzen 7 and a 6800XT card. How will that run with the PSVR2?

[@cparoli1111]

How does PSVR 2 compare to DPVR E4?

[@AdamsSIMporium]

Ordered one today from Sony in UK, already been shipped :)

[@nickabbott319]

How has it been? I’m still waiting for my adapter to ship

[@airforcex9412]

Just tried MSFS and it runs and looks better than on my G2. Didn’t have to tweak settings at all. Selling my Reverb…

[@beanos2287]

I just don't think I'll be able to deal with the mura, which would be especially bad on a flight sim, but is also pretty awful in other games.

[@johnbray9770]

I debated both but then I saw everyone is selling their Reverbs... $100 for a Reverb ain't tea bag

[@richardnoall3758]

Hang on, isn't the Reverb going to be a door stop soon? Will people buy it?

[@johnbray9770]

@@richardnoall3758 in 2 years, but for $100 I'm really not complaining

[@mangelo1901]

​@@richardnoall3758i bought a reverb for 100$, cause my index died and i wanted more resolution until i save up more money for a better one (maybe the crystal super or something)

[@technikchegger7228]

Solid Pcvr headset. Let's hope that Sony drops the price in €U.

[@dreamer5234]

it would be a dick move if they don't

[@Steelninja77]

I paid £433 for mine but it's not that bad.But then the aqdaptor. My quest 3 was £639 but that was the 512GB version with 6 months Quest + But that is a VR console as well.

[@mountaindrew5219]

I’ve owned Quest 1-3, Pro, Rift S, Reverb G2, and PSVR2 for PCVR. No comparison, PSVR2 wins hands down for PCVR. Best overall quality between perfect colors and blacks, larger FOV, best binocular overlap I’ve seen, and DisplayPort connection quality. With a globular cluster mod the sweet spot is no longer an issue, and edge to edge clarity is surprisingly better than the fresnel hmds I’ve used in the past.

[@mixedrealityTV]

Yes! It's so much fun!

[@metalcrow6306]

Could you please summarize the differences to a Q3? I already own a Q3, but the one caveat I don't like about it is the reduced brightness! And sometimes the compression artifacts when using it for PCVR, in something like vegetation scenes.. Is it worth it to switch for PCVR?

[@marathi22]

Yes, my thoughts exactly. I just got a second hand PSVR2 and an adapter to replace my G2, thinking exactly that it would be a perfect in-between headset while waiting for the Crystal Super!

[@somerandomperson8282]

I hope youre also budgeting the $2500 for the RTX5090 that you will need to drive the Super at native resolution?

[@marathi22]

@@somerandomperson8282 At this point, that's just speculation. But I'm on the path to upgrade my gpu next year anyway, and by that time we'll have an all-new MSFS on our hands so we'll see.

[@Killa8Sam]

Great video. It's what the VR industry needs, positive news. Thank you.

[@mixedrealityTV]

Welcome.

[@kapsnake]

All PC player love PCVR2 now lol

[@spidermonkeynr1]

Yeah only for the views. Have to see trough that. Quest 3 and psvr2 are just close.

[@SargonDragon]

The PSVR2 legitimately has a lot to offer as a PCVR headset. I think MRTV has it right were it slots in within the line up. It's not the top PCVR headset you can buy, but it's up there.

[@808GT]

Make a comparison on how frame rates compare due to running on a display port. I'm interested in what the performance gain is Vs quest compression

[@SargonDragon]

Some people seem to be assuming poor performance because it runs through SteamVR, too. Or they may not understand about how OpenXR is supported. Showing some actual frame rate comparisons between various other headsets including OpenXR would be helpful.

[@alucard0712]

Have an OLED VR headset and not test very dark areas? You are strange man! 🙂 I was blown away by Red Matter 2 dark levels. It's like COMPLETELLY DARK lol. finally

[@sonicsnake44]

What other headsets have you tried with Red Matter 2.

[@alucard0712]

@@sonicsnake44 Quest 2, Quest 3, PSVR2

[@tyronelannister9922]

OLED headset will make you shit bricks while caving in The Forrest

[@akagicac]

​@@alucard0712 de noche se ve demasiado el efecto arena en las lebtes psvr2 una lastima q lo mejor q tiene es cuando mas se ve su mayor defecto... Cua do es negro negro se ce buen, pero ua do es oscuro es horrible el efecto arena. Así q no entiendo como dicen q es lo mejor para juevos de noche pq no es así lamentablemanete. Por lo demas si son unos colores excelentes.

[@Something9008]

Foveated works seamlessly on PS5, hoping for support in windows drivers - could provide a serious performance boost.

[@richardnoall3758]

Got the PC adapter, now just got to receive the PSVR2/Horizon bundle from Amazon, but delivery is November onwards. Hoping Amazon will wave that wand and bring it forward.

[@kristaps2010]

I thought about it too. £350 for brand new but long delivery. wow it's gone up to £389.

[@chrissyboy7047]

Amazon UK have them in stock for delivery tomorrow and early next week for the bundle. Prices have increased though

[@richardnoall3758]

@@kristaps2010 I think it was PSVR2 only for £350, so with Horizon I can accept the £389. But when is the question!

[@chip6044]

hey man! has your headset arrived? if so how good/bad has your experience been?

[@richardnoall3758]

@@chip6044 Yeah got it pretty quickly. I have now left it on my PS5. PC has a lot of mura, and got an issue with right controller freezing every now and then. This only happened after a firmware update so not sure it is something I can sort. Shame really.

[@shenmeowzo]

Great vid. Mura is a problem of focal length, so we are very able to ignore it.. if we focus our eyes on the screen itself, you can sometimes see it, but if you are focused in the game world space, so to speak, it becomes irrelevant to how your experiencing what youre seeing. And yea the pay off is huge.

[@SpacehotelMusic]

Exactly. MURA is mostly a 'I want to look for MURA' thing. If you choose NOT to and embrace and accept it's a small downside for awesome OLED colours and contrast then you just stop seeing it or caring about it. The grey blacks of LCD are much much worse and can NOT be ignored.

[@kaecatlady]

Hmmm... as a person who is very nearsighted, especially in my left eye, and so must wear corrective lenses in VR, maybe this explains why I generally don't notice mura in my headset(s). Maybe people who are really sensitive to mura, and whose eyesight isn't as good as they think, CAN'T see past it without corrective lenses, and maybe they should think about (with no snarkiness whatever intended) getting their eyes checked? It might make a difference, not just for their experiences in VR, but in general.

[@shenmeowzo]

@@SpacehotelMusic exactly. Almost every headset out there has light bleed, for example.. and nobody ever makes videos complaining "vive/quest/AVP is crap, coz i can see some light bleed when I look for it!" You have to meet VR half way, not nit pick. The tech is trying to make you believe something that's not true (that you're somewhere else) so of course there's gonna be give aways if you focus on them. The benefits of oled / fresnel far outweigh the trade offs imo.

[@JustFlightMedia]

Was thinking about a new headset for my PC, as soon as i found out about the adaptor i pulled the trigger. Ive just got a PSVR2 for 330 quid for my PC amd ps5 PRO lovely!! ❤

[@noobsaibot2255]

they had it planned and would have been quicker to support it but virtuallink ports on GPUs didn't stick so they had to work on an adapter for new GPUs which took some time

[@Cool_Hand_Luke77]

Is there a tutorial how to configure and set up the game for best results for PSVR2?

[@jdmkun]

I tried the PSVR2 today with MSFS. Honestly, I prefer my Meta Quest 3 much better for comfort and I find it more crisp. I do agree the OLED colors are better on the PSVR2.

[@hb-hr1nh]

Got a desktop 4090 can't wait! Ordered my adapter from Best Buy, but won't get it until August 28th. I do have a 2080ti laying around with with a virtual link, l might try that for now.

[@adink6486]

I think we ordered at the same time Best Buy lol. Status Ready for Packaging Arriving by August 28 which is ridiculous.

[@nickabbott319]

@6989uwu I wish i could even order one but sells out too quickly lol

[@42Hoggy]

Ive been using the PSVR2 for Assetto Corsa Competizione foe the last few weeks and sure the colours and FOV are great but night and day the Reverb G2 is much clearer especially for anything in the distance. Also my opinion the comfort on the PSVR2 is terrible.

[@Mike-bg3cf]

Seb, you should turn off "points of interest" when you do through the lens with MSFS. Good video though.

[@oliverf944]

FYI. ive got PSVR2 and VivePro OG. I get better visuals with the VivePro @ 1.5ss vs the PSVR2 @ 0.6ss for 45psi on a 4070ti. VivePro og is still the Oled king for me on mid/hi end GPU for MSF

[@grimsler3947]

I always said, if Sony made it for PC it would do well. I hope this and with the new sales of the headset, they will go for the 3rd gen.

[@mixedrealityTV]

I hope so too but I dont think there will be a third version.

[@yusufyazar5749]

“One question for all who use VR in MSFS: Does it make sense to use a HOTAS setup with VR, or is it just fine to use a joystick with VR?” In general is there a big difference on overall Gameplay in the sense of Fun.

[@mixedrealityTV]

@@yusufyazar5749 hotas is great!

[@VictoriaBlu535]

Got it in vr got a hotas at hour 9 of gameplay now at 25hr its absolutely awesome..except that dune helicopter thing won't let me map the air break just the ground break very weird

[@simple-controls5507]

HELP! There is a lot more head movement on the screen than I'm inputting with my head when I turn my head moderately fast . Anywhere I can find settings for a 5800x3d, 7900 xtx system?

[@Drason95]

what audio solution are you using? im coming from the index and miss the top sound system

[@mixedrealityTV]

I am using the Globular Cluster headphones for psvr2. They are great!

[@SpacehotelMusic]

Airpods + Airfly dongle. Wireless, great sound, good bass, no pressure on ears no extra bulk on head. Plug dongle into your sound output on your TV/PC (rather than having it dangling from the port on the headset - you can do that but... maybe BT transmission on the neck isn't so good?). Imperceptible latency with airfly (don't cheap out with other dongles).

[@Drason95]

@@mixedrealityTV same quality as index? people have been telling me the microphone on the psvr2 sounds better than my index. just need a solid sound solution now. so you suggest these globular cluster? also i miss the facial interface of the index that stabilizes the headset and makes the fit more comfortable overall. are there any facial interface mods already?

[@Thisfutureman]

Can you check out the new update ,i heard they have put trains in the game so i wonder if you can ride them

[@Rhythmattica]

I wonder if HDR will be implemented on PC with PSVR2?

[@paulmann8675]

No hdr or open XR support

[@Rhythmattica]

@@paulmann8675 But is it possible? I own a Mac for my Music/Audio and as a daily driver, a PS5 , expanded, with PSVR2.... Im thinking Ill get a mate to build me a PC , just for those Steam only titles... Fact is... All those talking about contrast, Blacks, brightness , colours ect, have no idea in many cases , the mua effect, its not an issue , generally , when on the PS5.. 50-60% brightness.... with HDR is totally a game changer... Thus my reason to ask...

[@fabianD-80]

​@@paulmann8675of course you can run openXR stuff. How do you think he's using MSFS that only supports openXR.

[@akagicac]

Amigo, piensa q lo tienen q implementar en el juego tambien, si el juevo no tienen hdr en vr por mucho q las psvr2 lo tenga no servira.

[@tempokillerdj]

Tomorrow I will receive my adapter! By playstation direct in 3 days!(i order it on sunday)

[@Guinea54]

I know the numbers in your test put this in the lead by far in FOV.. but do you feel the big difference in FOV compared to the quest 3? Im assuming the vertical would stand out.

[@TheOli4D]

@@Guinea54 there is a video where he compares that

[@Guinea54]

@@TheOli4D i know i just don't trust that program fully.. I wanted to know his experience with his eyes

[@mountaindrew5219]

The FOV is much larger than Q3 for me as well.

[@mongini1]

Hey Sebastian, can you make a Video that compares the performance of The PSVR 2 (on PC) vs Quest 3, Vs Pimax Crystal, vs Reverb G2? i want a VR Headset for Sim Racing and MSFS, and prefer smoothness over a few pixels or vibrant colors.

[@TheOli4D]

Great video! Is it possible to dimm the PSVR2? I can't tolerate very bright OLEDs very well... I usually have to lower the brightness of displays... is this possible in the settings of the PSVR2? Thank you!

[@mixedrealityTV]

Yes, you can dim it! And then Mura will even be less visible! It's in the app.

[@akagicac]

​@@mixedrealityTV yo estoy encantado con las osvr2 pero las cosas como son los juegos oscuros es donde mas se ve el efecto arena y es bastante horrible a parte de dar rabia ya que es donde mejor tendria q lucir es donde mas se ve su defecto mas grande... Si es negro nego perfecto pero juego oscuro es horrible... Una lastima por lo demas si son excelentes los colores pero hay q decir todo!

[@tonyf9076]

Does openxr work with psvr2 off the bat ??

[@kurok1tenshi]

No, not yet, maybe in the future cause the performance is wayy better than steamvr.

[@42Hoggy]

Right around 13.20 he says you can use your openxr tool kit is this not the same thing?

[@TheOli4D]

@@42Hoggy that's not the same thing.

[@SargonDragon]

Shouldn't make assumptions about its performance until it has actually been measured. Not all headsets have poor performance when running OpenXR through SteamVR.

[@csammy123]

Can you do a video on having two VR headsets in one PC to use interchangably? I already have a Pimax Crystal original ($1700) but interested in getting a PSVR2 for darker games. But I wonder what conflicts that would bring. I mainly use the Crystal for OpenXR and some SteamVR games like Google Earth. But to be able to switch to a PSVR2 on a whim would be great.

[@mixedrealityTV]

No conflicts at all. I am using many headsets on my computer!

[@akagicac]

Amigo psvr2 para juegos oscuros es horrible... Es donde mas se ve su peor defecto q es el efecto arena, si es negro negro se ve buen, por ejemplo al elite dangerous bien, ahora juegos oscuros vas a ver una tremenda pared de arena en las gafas. Así q puede q te decepcione para segun q juegos.

[@bobjackson3237]

using the recommended tp link Bluetooth adapter but still have tracking problems, using extension cord updated drivers, etc. anyone can help?

[@jmlibre4468]

is the tracking via bluetooth good enough for action of rhythm games?

[@mixedrealityTV]

The tracking is perfect.

[@mountaindrew5219]

Perfect for me. On par with Quest tracking.

[@kurok1tenshi]

Does the eye tracker work or not yet?

[@gamediary504]

not yet and not announced

[@tkozilek]

Do you must have the Flight Simulator bought in Steam or can you use the one from Xbox app in PC?

[@mixedrealityTV]

Both okay

[@tkozilek]

@@mixedrealityTV thank you so much and congratulations for the video!!!

[@mangapuff2299]

The price on Amazon is $530 now. Is it still possible to get it for $350 anywhere?

[@ajaxwalker]

gamestop has is for $380 with membership or $400 without.

[@teeztoyz]

StockX has is for $400

[@adink6486]

I am sure the price will come down to $350 again around Black Friday which is only 3 months away. And you will not have an adapter shortage issue. But then the $410 total ($350 headset+ $60 adapter) is really Quest 3 ($429 prime day price) territory.

[@richardnoall3758]

@@adink6486 I see this as a different offering from the Quest 3. For people who want Oled panels, don't want the pricier Crystal Light, no data compression and want an upgrade from the Reverb G2. I would happily have both, however if I could only choose one, Quest 3 all day long.

[@kurok1tenshi]

Let the hype die and it will be down again in a few months.

[@oliverf944]

Do you have bad barrel distortion? i used it with IVRy pc app and it was terrible.

[@mixedrealityTV]

Not at all. It's perfect just like on PS5.

[@oliverf944]

@@mixedrealityTV I bought the pc adapter but I can’t configure it. The install process won’t connect both sense controllers. They’re recognised but can’t remain connected. I’ve read others have same problem

[@pixxelpusher]

@@oliverf944 From what I've seen you either need to update your bluetooth drivers or buy one of the Sony recommended Bluetooth USB dongles.

[@TheOli4D]

@@oliverf944 Seems to be a bluetooth issue. There are some officially Sony confirmed bluetooth adapters that seem to work. Maybe updating your bluetooth drivers also helps.

[@yourbadday89]

does the controller battery really last only 3 hours? they should've gone for AA batteries if that's the case. at least you can swap and keep playing

[@mixedrealityTV]

Agreed, I also prefer batteries for that. But at least you can get pretty nice chargingdocks!

[@daysofgrace2934]

Tbh in comparisons online the PSVR2 looks more blurry and a few sim racers said the when the motion starts the graphics smear...

[@illgottengains1314]

If they remove the eye tracking, maybe they could make a cheap PC version?

[@Neosin1]

Does psvr2 work with dlss and frame gen? thanks

[@kapsnake]

Yes ! Cyberpunk VR MOD work nice.

[@karma996]

Just bought a used Reverb G2 €150.... Did I do well?

[@gageboy14]

Instead of the PSVR2? YES you did well.

[@JustFlightMedia]

The G2 will soon no longer work on PC.

[@Broodjemetbeleg]

Dp alone makes me want to get one, wireless is just horrible with msfs.

[@Sinbad683]

Oh nice

[@JPWestmas]

yeah the mura just adds a bit to the fuzziness of the psvr2. Ime, compared to reality, fresnel lenses and lower resolutions impact the clarity more than mura does.

[@akagicac]

De noche donde mas se tendrían q lucir estas gafas el efecto mura es tremendo... Una lastima.

[@pippzzz]

Views and algorithm aside, in your opinion, do "OLED colors" and deep black but through fresnel lenses win over a less good LCD but through pancake lenses ? I'm pretty happy with the PSVR2 + adapter, but for gaming experience (with more text and detail around you, where flight sim is more about visuals, colors and such), I still prefer the Quest3 because IMO it offers a more comprehensive experience. I personally find that pancake lenses vs. fresnel are a much bigger improvement compared to OLED vs. LCD for instance, at least for PCVR, feels like a no brainer, experience-wise. You're saying you prefer the PSVR2 in this video because that's your point today, but what are your real thoughts here ? 😝

[@pixxelpusher]

I've also wondered why nobody is talking about fresnel vs pancake lenses in the PSVR2 PC reviews. Surely Q3 still has to be shaper even over usb-link?

[@64Papiculo]

Honestly, with the number of Quest users compared to PSVR2 users, he would have zero interest to lie about prefering PSVR2 over Quest 3. It's his own opinion and many other youtubers and players seem to think the same while some other seem to prefwr the Quest 3. But when it comes to what's best for PCVR it's not only about Fresnel OLED VS pancake LCD, it's also display port VS streaming, and the display port without latency nor compression artefacts is a solid argument too.

[@pixxelpusher]

@@64Papiculo Yes they are all valid pros / cons. Which is why it seems to be very individual / subjective based on what matters to you. But even without trying a PSVR2 I can't imagine it being shaper than Q3, even though not many people are commenting on that. Most only seem to be commenting on the black levels.

[@SargonDragon]

I own both, and the pancakes in the Quest 3 are definitely an advantage over the fresnels in the PSVR2. The Quest 3 is noticeably sharper. But that's not all there is to clarity. OLED produces much higher contrast than LCD, and contrast helps make details clear, too. There are also many other aspects to clarity that the public doesn't really have any awareness about. The PSVR2 has always been a generally underrated headset. In actual head to head comparisons now, I think people are finally realizing how good it actually is. That said, for me in total between the two in terms of display alone, I think the pancakes make the Quest 3 my overall preference, but it's a real close judgement call. HOWEVER, the other factor is the latency of Quest 3's remote streaming. PSVR2 is a DisplayPort headset and doesn't suffer that latency. So for me, that pushes the PSVR2 to being the clearly superior headset for PCVR of the two.

[@emilybaxterthecartoonywitc1805]

It looks choppy when you're looking around

[@mixedrealityTV]

Only in the recording.

[@emilybaxterthecartoonywitc1805]

@mixedrealityTV good to know. I'm planning on getting a PC and MSFS is the reason mostly

[@loocius]

I Am A Nervous Owner Of The G2. What Are My Options Going Forward?

[@SargonDragon]

Bigscreen Beyond, PSVR2, Pimax Crystal Light, or Quest 3.

[@sethpatsanza7935]

Big question.. Why is that the PSVR2 does not require a powerful gpu as said... No need for 4090i, why?

[@mixedrealityTV]

Because you have less resolution to drive as compared to Crystal or Bigscreen Beyond. But having a 4090 is still better of course!

[@teeztoyz]

If I already have the PSVR2 is it worth upgrading to the Crystal light for flight simming? Also if I did upgrade would it run on a RTX 3070ti or do you think I should just stay with the VR2 since I only have a 3070ti?

[@adink6486]

I think you should just buy the adapter for $60 and try it on the 3070ti and save up for the 5000 series or used 4080+ cheap. Besides VR, you can always do more with a beefier GPU. Maybe something like Crystal Light with eye tracking will come out next year who knows.

[@teeztoyz]

@@adink6486 Thanks, the adapter will arrive on the 17th so looking forward to that. I'm a complete noob as far as PC VR so although flight simming is my favorite genre I'm unfamiliar with how these components play with each other as far as affecting performance.

[@richardnoall3758]

Unless you want to be a member of the Pimax R&D club, I would stick.

[@SargonDragon]

With a 3070ti, I think you will definitely do better on a PSVR2 than a Pimax Crystal Light. Also be aware that as much as Pimax headsets are great when they're working, they have a lot of quality control problems, bugs, and reliability issues. The PSVR2 is a highly polished and reliable product. Anything by Pimax is... not.

[@teeztoyz]

@@SargonDragon Thanks, yeah I wish there were more videos on how far you can push a particular more premium headset when using something less than a 4090. It seems you'd have to turn down a lot of settings on the higher end headsets to run smoothly on less powerful GPU's which means upgrading both I'm guessing?

[@thesupremeginge]

FYI, flight simulator doesn't have levels. Just not the right term. It's one big, simulated world.

[@mixedrealityTV]

Yes, You are right.

[@joei4ever]

comparison with PICO 4 PLEASE

[@mixedrealityTV]

It has better colors, better FOV but less clarity than Pico 4.

[@joei4ever]

@@mixedrealityTV man, thats one thing that bothers me on Pico, and inside lens reflections and contrast. Did you try watching a movie, how is the quality/experience? On pico, it feels like im watching some cam rip Did you ever try AR glasses with micro oled, I fond them incredibly good compared to any VR headset, talking on sharpness and image quality

[@franciscojmunoz3938]

EDITED.--after rebooting and tinkering with some steamvr video settings, the problems has disappeared. Alyx, pc2, asseto corsa now run well. Anyway i yhink that this psvr2 for pc is a bit of hype. Is good, yes it is. Is better than g2? I would not say so. Its on par, better darks of course, but a bit exaggerated colo saturation in some games. Mura effect as good or bad as in ps5 ( g2 is way clearer here)..Fov, with the face mod that i use in my g2, the fov difference to me is not that great. In conclusion, I probably will continue using my g2 for racing. To be tangling with the cables and setup.. not sure if pays off. Not to mention that y you want to be alternating between ps5 and pc, you have to pair and unpair the controllers as they cannot be at the same time recognized by ps5 and the pc. PREVIOUS coment: My experience is different about performance. Yesterday received my adapter, and had problems running most of the games I tried. Automobilista2 was the only one that worked perfectly. The others, like pc2 with stuttering. Half alyx got freezd every 4 timesI tried, something its not fine. Also I miss the 60hz option I have with my G2 thats does magic making playable games loke pc2, and asseto corsa competizione. i dont have MFS but If I am noticing worse performance and some kind of issues (half alyx frozen).. just using the same steam comfig I use with my g2…yes colors are a bit better than g2, but the performance issues I am experiencing are discouraging me, I am tired of fighting with this on pc. I have a rtx 3080, i cannot imagine recommending this to flight simmers if what i see is a worse performance and less way to deal with it (60hz mode) than with the g2. Also, steamvr doesnt offer smoothing with psvr2…

[@mountaindrew5219]

Did you disable hardware based GPU scheduling in windows? That was the cause of my stuttering issues day 1. Now everything is smooth as it should be.

[@franciscojmunoz3938]

Thank you very much. I will check it as soon as I get home today. Yesterday all went ok, even I was surprised when I tried f122 and f123 and saw a smoothness that i hadn't seen ever before..but anyway this GPU setting in windows must be checked for better performance 👍

[@mountaindrew5219]

@@franciscojmunoz3938 I believe that the 4000 series cards use the feature for upscaling, but if you have a 3080 like myself, disabling that feature helped fix my stutter.

[@franciscojmunoz3938]

Checked. It was disabled. I think that that problem I had with Alyx was that for some reason with the g2 the smoothing was set on in steamvr config for this game, and then I disabled it, since I noticed that with the psvr2 that option isnt allowed. Next time i plug the psvr2 back in the game worked.

[@VRCore.]

This is why nobody does PCVR its too much hassle and expensive, PSVR2 is for the PS5 plug and play, end of.

[@matinprsd]

Ah come on man, you could've done the night flight and this in a single video..

[@mixedrealityTV]

But you will watch the night flight video as well! ;)

[@akagicac]

Vuelo nocturno igual a terrible Mura... Una lastima....

[@hzuniga26]

Just don’t crash

[@Spybee007]

I have a Quest 3 and PSVR2, but I have a hard time believing the PSVR2 will be better than my Q3. Pancake lenses are just so much better. Oled is nice, but not enough for me to replace Q3. The Q3 with my aftermarket headstrap and face pad is way more comfortable than PSVR2 as well. I will still have to give it a try if I can get my hands on an adapter.

[@mixedrealityTV]

It's really about what's more important for you. Colors, FOV and DP go for PSVR2, clarity and wireless go for Q3. We are all on the same team here. Team VR!

[@Spybee007]

@@mixedrealityTV True! I just wish we could have it all in one headset for a decent price. Someday, someday.

[@mattari5862]

But only I see this video stuttering continuosly?

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

That's typically just a recording issue, happens with all HMDs. In-headset it's smooth.

[@mixedrealityTV]

It's not like this in the headset.

[@emilianomontanari283]

i have both but perceived sharpness is much less than Quest 3 and i see mura a lot. Better colors and comfort instead, that’s true

[@somerandomperson8282]

My goodness @MRTV, are you really saying that this is "a good inbetween headset before the Pimax SUper", when the Super is not out yet and we don't even know how it will perform? When the Super with its 4k resolution will need an RTX5090 to run well? I dont understand why you say such silly things.

[@mixedrealityTV]

Thanks for watching and commenting! :) Every bit of engagement helps the channel. Of course we will first have to see how good it really is but it seems to be a great one for enthusiasts.

[@SargonDragon]

First we will have to see if/when the Crystal Super even releases. Or if it turns out to be another fake product announcement from Pimax that's actually just a concept like they have now admitted the 12K was.

[@somerandomperson8282]

@@SargonDragon the super is obviously not like the 12K that is completely different. The 12K has various technical hurdles that stop it from being feasible at the moment until higher bandwidth connections like DP2.1 are standard. The super does not suffer from the same limitations and they have already shown it. Don't let your bias against pimax get in the way of facts.

[@SargonDragon]

​@@somerandomperson8282 Facts? Pimax went as far as to trot out what they claimed was a _working prototype_ of the 12K during a video interview on this very channel. And now years later they finally admit that the technology to build the 12K wasn't even available at the time and still isn't today. So what did they show us in that interview then? It appeared to be facts at the time. Pimax is trying to reframe this as just falling short of their aggressive goals, but what they did was more than that. I'm not claiming that it's the same for the Crystal Super today. Maybe it's for real this time. But how would we be able to tell? Because it seems more believable? Because Pimax sounds sincere in its videos? Because they swear they're going to be honest from now on?

[@MetalDeathHead]

the mura kills the immersion

[@outdoorsdelmarva5691]

Hope they can work out a deal with XBOX!

[@rinalduzzi]

Only 90fps or less, like occulus

[@mixedrealityTV]

Well it depends on your computer.

[@rinalduzzi]

“On the Meta Quest, you can choose between 72Hz, 80Hz, 90Hz, and 120Hz. On my Aero, I can only get 90 fps, nothing more. What about on the PSVR 2? I’m asking because it’s good to have these configuration options. I have an RTX 4090, and in iRacing, I want to lock it to 72fps all the time on my Quest Pro. Thanks for your videos-they’re very good, and I’ve been following you for many years.”

[@mountaindrew5219]

@@rinalduzziPSVR has 90 and 120hz.

[@rinalduzzi]

i saw this, and i hope they will add 72fps

[@emilianomontanari283]

the steam app really needs a 72hz option for less powerful gpu like mine 3070

[@billbaggins1688]

That footage ain't selling it. And yes, i heard your caveat.

[@mixedrealityTV]

That's ok. Like mentioned in the video, it was not looking like that at all in the headset. I will double check my way of recording it.

[@a.m.4654]

says "it's so good" and i tlook all pixelated

[@mixedrealityTV]

it obviously looks different in the headset than on the recording here. but anyways, thanks for watching and commenting! glad I could help you.

[@gageboy14]

This thing is not that good. Quest 3 is much better. Only good thing about PSVR2 is the OLED screen. You have to turn the resolution down LOW for this thing to run at 90fps at 90hz and it shows. That's why he is moving his head around the entire time!!!!

[@brokensword2621]

Mine is also really good in this game until it's getting dark in the game, and the holy mura kicks out and ruins everything 😅

[@VadimZverev]

I don't like psvr2 tiny sweet spot, the same as g2. have to adjust the headset like every 3 minutes. idk. if you have g2 or q3 don't buy psvr2 for pc

[@haseebmirza2901]

All you need is the Globular Cluster and it'll stay in place

[@VadimZverev]

@@haseebmirza2901 gonna check what it is. thanks

[@mountaindrew5219]

@@VadimZverev globular cluster mod. Never have to readjust.

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

It doesn't seem like it's worth the money to upgrade from a G2 to me. If you're buying new... sure.

[@mixedrealityTV]

Yeah, you are getting more Mura. That's for sure. But also it does have some nice advantages. But no need to ditch your G2. The next big leap will come soon.

[@fastfed]

Not even close to the quest 3 quality. Better then the quest 2, maybe.. But not even. Close to the quest 3, pancake lenses makes all the difference

[@mountaindrew5219]

@@fastfed sorry but the single Pro of the Q3 being pancake lenses does not outweigh all the cons of washed out LCD colors, horrible binocular overlap (looks like viewing the world through 2 toilet paper rolls), smaller FOV, compression and latency. PSVR2 wins for PCVR by a long shot with perfect colors and blacks, large FOV, much better binocular overlap, no compression or latency. I have both plus Quest Pro and will sell my Quests because they are garbage PCVR hmds.

[@fastfed]

@@mountaindrew5219 you're the only one saying this. Fresnel Lenses are so old, you have the smallest sweet spot right down the center only. It's a blur fest everywhere else. Fresnel lenses are also so freaking uncomfortable you're lucky to get 30 minutes to an hour before you're tired of it. Plenty of videos of all of this already, dcs, alyx, msfs, sorry but it's old ass tech

[@mountaindrew5219]

@@fastfed you clearly haven’t used both and are just assuming like the rest. PSVR2 with GC mod keeps sweet spot right in place, edge to edge clarity is better than any other fresnel lens I’ve used. Q3/Pro don’t even come close to the immersive experience of the VR2 on PC. I play the VR2 for 2-3 hours straight with no discomfort from the lenses. Come up with a better excuse next time. All you people claiming the lenses make up the whole story 🤣.

[@fastfed]

@@mountaindrew5219 what excuse lol, it's a tech product not my kids report card lol. It's got lower resolution as well. Plenty of people compared to this for dcs, il2 and msfs on discord and the forums. Oled is literally it's only good feature and the little increase in fov, those lenses are so fatiguing and you do not get wall to wall clarity, it's that center sweet spot only. The lenses are one of if not the most important things on vr units now a days, and every new unit would never use those antiquated lenses for how shitty they are

[@mountaindrew5219]

@@fastfed I barely even move my head while using the VR2. I can still read text beyond the overlap just fine, only slight blur at the last 10% of the edge or so. Just because other fresnel HMD’s have bad edge clarity, doesn’t make it the same for all fresnel lenses. But we can end the conversation here, as you’re going off what you read rather than what you’ve actually experienced. Your opinions are nullified.

[@GamerBenke]

If you have a Quest 3, don't bother getting the PSVR2 adapter... I've tried it, and I still prefer the visual quality, the built-in sound and the wireless connection of the Quest 3. 😎

[@mountaindrew5219]

I have both and a Quest Pro and I’m finally going to sell my Quest 3 and Pro. PSVR2 blows them both out of the water for true PCVR.

[@GamerBenke]

@@mountaindrew5219 hmm..... weird I'm not sure if it's only me, but when I first turned my head around in SteamVR using the PSVR2, I noticed a lot of distortion, lines were wiggling a bit (straight lines were wavy), somewhat like it was with the first generation of GearVR... Also the mura effect is annoying on the PSVR2. The Quest 3 has a really clear and sharp image, much better than the PSVR2. In my opinion.

[@mangapuff2299]

Doesn’t sound like enough upgrade from G2, the sweet spot on G2 is terrible! If this is only a bit better and same resolution then I will pass.

[@techinfusions]

I ran the G1 and then the G2 for a couple of years and paid $650 for the G2, the PSVR2 is an all around fidelity boost, the OLED displays and the noticeably wider FOV just make the PSVR2 the natural step-up from the Index and the G2 and surprisingly the Quest 3 as well. The sweet spot it slightly larger than the G2 as well but its not difficult to find its just there and like Seb says once you are in it you are in it, and with the PSVR2 sharing a similar resolution to the Reverb G2 your current hardware will not need to be upgraded because it will run just as well as on the G2, and its a true PCVR headset with displayport technology so absolutely no video compression, the controller tracking is far superior to the G2 as well, the only place the Reverb G2 is better is the audio solution but you can just use external earphones of your choice if you do not like the supplied earbud type of ear phones supplied.

[@Steelninja77]

I bought my Xbox Series X from Amazon. germany when they were sold out everywhere and just swapped out the plug well the whole lead for an old stereo lead with UK plug. I bought my PSVR" adaptor on Sony's site and it comes tomorrow along with my PSVR2 from Amazon UK. I already have a quest 3 but was mad enough to buy a PSVR2 and adaptor co's want a less hassle way to play PCVR and tbh some games look not that good on Quest 3 like no mans sky etc. It can be fixed with messing around but you really want the out of the box experience to be grreat. And for me on quest 3 PCVr it wasn't. Skyrim Vr is a blurry mess out of the box fact same with no mans sky. And i don't wanna mess with bitrates and settings all the time.Because you always change the settings for a different game and then go back to skyrim and it looks terrible again.