Microsoft Surface Pro Copilot+: Slimmer bezels and AI smarts

Microsoft's new Surface Pro, its first hybrid Copilot+ PC tablet, doesn't look much different than its predecessors. It's still a sleek and sturdy tablet with a kickstand. But the screen looks a bit more impressive, thanks to slimmer bezels, and it's potentially more useful on the go when paired with the $350 Surface Pro Flex keyboard, which lets you type wirelessly. As a Copilot+ AI PC though, its true value lies under the hood, thanks to a 45TOPS neural processing unit in Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite and X Plus chips.
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[@SherryPeng111]

I would say that wireless connectivity and portability are crucial for modern individuals. I tend to purchase portable products that make it easier for me to work or write on the go, making this a highly useful product.

[@KeyT3ch]

I CANT WAIT to boot Linux on these boys, Qualcomm has been pushing linux kernels support for these chips onto the latest linux kernel changes. ARM for Linux will be a battery beast!

[@tukayz254]

why do you linux people always spam Microsoft videos? go ask linux for better laptops

[@KeyT3ch]

@@tukayz254 that's because Surface is one of the more popular choice for running Linux as well, there's a whole repository dedicated to supporting Linux on Surface devices for almost every hardware. Qualcomm submitting Linux support to the Linux kernel for the X Elite/Plus chips means these devices should run Linux out of the box beautifully

[@NeverBeDaunted]

@@tukayz254 lol

[@hehefunnysharkgoa9515]

@@tukayz254 "go ask linux for better laptops" This doesn't even make sense, that's not how any of this works.

[@sarojdwivedi8643]

Loved your work❤❤❤

[@sunilsg24]

The surface pro design with kick stand is what Apple ipad lacks and hence has come up with a complicated magic keyboard (kbd) which will also act as a stand, in process making it heavier. The correct comparison is between Apple magic folio ($249) and Microsoft flex kbd ($350). This is much larger track pad with haptic feedback and pencil storage cum charging slot right on the kbg. Kbd can be used while detached from the Surface Pro. Apple magic folio lacks all these features. 🙂

[@quinnthompson]

Sounds slightly more promising.. we'll see!

[@tukayz254]

Compatible apps and drivers will seal the deal

[@johncarr123]

What applications can they run???

[@mvadu]

3:02 basically it knowa your bank balance changes over time because it took screenshot of the page as you visit

[@bruintoo]

Oooh wow a detachable bluetooth keyboard!

[@nickthaskater]

That costs $350 lol

[@jamesdax]

@@nickthaskater $50 more than the Apple magic keyboard but it also has more functionality.

[@nickthaskater]

@@jamesdax the Apple keyboard is already hilariously priced. Costing more is a joke. It's a flimsy plastic Bluetooth keyboard. There is absolutely no reason for it to cost $350.

[@fishnsteve]

Devindra Hardawar is my papa ❤ I love Devindra Hardawar

[@Gabeyre]

U would think they would be thinner too, not just cheaper and on par with performance.

[@JogBird]

they are asking $550 to go from 16 to 32 gb ram

[@nickthaskater]

Are they finally going to let you download and install Windows ARM or are they going to continue keeping it under lock and key?

[@obinnaokafor6252]

Buy the new device and get it

[@nickthaskater]

@@obinnaokafor6252 yea, that's not what I asked.

[@ocvjw8734]

I believe the media creation tool (running on an arm device) well let you create a bootable disk or download the iso. Also, the iso can downloaded from the free VMware app on a mac.

[@karlleiserbach1411]

This will make the world greener

[@obinnaokafor6252]

These Microsoft products are amazing ❤❤

[@louididdy]

High…rising tone?

[@andershedman]

Is it fanless?

[@MarxMarvelous37]

No they have fans. Likely to be more of a cross between a MB Air and Pro. I would expect the fans won't kick up unless there is sustained heavy workload, which is why they bragged about "sustained" performance over the M3 Air.

[@DesignsbyBlanc]

Where’s Thunderbolt support?

[@pieceofshitzu2]

Thunderbolt doesn't exist with snapdragon. That's a Intel thing

[@markholle3450]

LOL. You know who puts out the Thunderbolt standard, right? Our friends at Intel.

[@okman9684]

Go get an intel for that

[@hexagonal707]

USB 4.. you can do exactly what you were doing with thunderbolt

[@jinraigami3349]

@@markholle3450 How can Apple have that then? Just pay, and you'll get to use it.

[@utkarshg.bharti9714]

Microsoft has a lot to catch up when it comes to taking on Apple's Macbook series. While it can take on Air, they just cannot compare to the Pro series.

[@yp5387]

I see many folks are hyped for these and upcoming laptops with in built AI chip. But they don’t understand these are data gathering machines and they will capture and train models based on your inputs. Even how you move your cursor.

[@jonathan.cruzate]

Most people don't care

[@advapp]

Every device you have is a data gathering machine your phone especially.

[@katmoviehd169]

Nobody cares

[@yay714oc]

Well it looks like I will be leaving the surface pro line up and join the Asus Zenbook Duo 2024...😊😊😊

[@RinzSach]

Surface laptop 7th will hit, all now oled. You don’t need a pen in the pro also it’s more 2 in one vibe. It looks so much like a MacBook it’s unreal.

[@advapp]

I want to know if they can edit video ?...

[@jonaaa_dt]

It also claims to be faster in single-threaded and multithreaded performance than AMD's Ryzen 9 7940HS and Intel's Core Ultra 7 155H when running at the same wattages

[@LiveAerosmith]

why this guy is always bitter with Microsoft?

[@NizarElZarif]

Who is asking to put "AI" everywhere, literally no consumer asked for it, I don't need shipped in program on windows with build in AI features, if i need something i would download it online. it seems "AI" is just a convenient way for MS to sell azure cloud AI services to corporation. This is reminding me of who crypto bros telling everyone to invest in crypto as it will change to world, and the only thing it changes where the wallets of idiots that dumped money into it. I really don't need 500 differnt half baked, buggy AI apps that would end up burning the battery.

[@Merlin78X]

This post will age like milk I guess...

[@AliAbidalkareem]

Windows on ARM again?!!

[@tukayz254]

much improved

[@user-zd2xj9rl2z]

@@tukayz254 In fact, EXTREMELY improved!

[@Max86421]

I'm using a Chromebook plus laptop 💻

[@danielmndjr2874]

2:12 Literally the whole idea and the keyboard are better than the Magic keyboard: more tilt angles, more stable and can even be used separately via Bluetooth!!!! Stop being such an Apple fanboys!

[@cionheart]

And you didn't even mention the $299 price tag. Still insane to ask so much for a keyboard, but nobody complains because of the brand. Surface design with the build in kickstand is still superior, no need to reengineer it.

[@SinghalRishi27]

@@cionheart microsoft is charging 350 and apple's obviously better

[@rdvgrd6]

You could buy a whole pc for the price of that keyboard. And still no ARM and thunderbolt for that price is a joke

[@cionheart]

@@SinghalRishi27 I thought it's still at $189, my fault. $350 is also insane, I agree.

[@evelinecarolinelienhuaming1184]

Super Nice Tablet & Laptop but I Still have 14.5inch Android Tablet & 14inch Windows Laptop so I don't have to Buy This New Microsoft Products, it's not Necessary for Me Right Now!!! Anyway Nice Clear Presentation tho' ✌🏻😃👍🏻

[@ameyaspadhye]

If Windows on ARM really works out and if all OEMs jump on the band wagon, the credit for pushing them transition over to ARM architecture goes to Apple. Apple's M series processors really changed the perspective. And they beat the hell out of these OEMs especially in performance per watt for laptops.

[@cerioo]

So what

[@KazrBrekker]

yeah but now the windows world will push Apple to increase the RAM to 16 🤣

[@ameyaspadhye]

@@KazrBrekker Would be a great thing if it happens ^^

[@shotelco]

Microsoft's *NPU* is a Game Changer for us!! Here we were trying to figure out how we could afford 50,000 Nvidia Blackwell GPU's @ $40,000 each in order to train our upcoming *14 **_Trillion_** parameter* model, and along comes Microsoft to the rescue. If Microsoft says these NPU's are "up to 100x as efficient[2] for running AI Workloads..." Why _Wouldn't_ we beleive them?? We can now purchase these Copilot+ PC's - with the *NPU's* built-in - at a 98% DISCOUNT compared to Nvidia GPU's to train our model, and get the rest of the computer too boot! This IS an "Incredible Value". Thanks Microsoft!

[@curlcurllocal]

Why would my computer need to 'handle ai tasks' ? I just type stuff into ChatGPT and some supercomputer in the cloud does all the heavy lifting right? So I could just get a piece of crap laptop with fast internet?!?

[@Max86421]

Ai 🍎😁

[@JayJay-sk3iu]

These computer may technically be faster than the M3 MacBook Air, but doubt it’ll translate to the user experience due to the lack of tight integration and optimization Apple can achieve with controlling the hardware and software.

[@mrmister3507]

Exactly, especially with how bad the responsiveness windows 11 feels, I doubt the user experience will be on par with Mac. Would love to be proven wrong though

[@averoes4029]

You like a cigar Review guy....showing us the best tobacco leaf in Nicaragua and how filler is aged years in oak barrels....etc..... But Not a Tech guy 😂😂😂😂

[@wakkowarner9522]

when you need help to play Minecraft 🤦🏻‍♂

[@arpitsinha595]

Team Apple 🖤🤍

[@moorebags1]

Don't buy an ASUS one.

[@nitholx917]

Is crazy paying almost 400$ for a keyboard. Microsoft always selling overpriced trash worse than Apple , at least Apple sell overpriced working products, but Microsoft sell us product with outdated hardware but with premium prices 😂😂

[@Drstrange3000]

I remember getting the first gen Microsoft Surface Pro and all of the accessories were overly expensive. I thought the $129 keyboard back then was expensive. I would never pay $400 for a keyboard. That's crazy.

[@mysterychemical]

Overpriced sh*t.

[@jayd8743]

Windows RT worked fine... It was the lack of native programs and emulator that made it bad. Work your words better and keep your negativity about Microsoft out of the piece.. Shows to easily. Poor reporting across the piece. Shame.

[@sloppynyuszi]

I agree, I am mostly an Apple guy, but the Magic Keyboard isn’t it. The surface form factor has no issues. It’s the software not being designed around it that sucks. The iPad works very well without a keyboard, windows doesn’t.

[@thesandman775]

You realize you basically just said "Windows RT was fine, it was just everything that was supposed to make it actually usable for the average consumer that was broken." Rather foolish statement.