New Vegan Studies: Cancer Survival, Fat Loss Trial, Toxin Intake, and More

[@MictheVegan]

I forgot to say that FÜM is a huge improvement on the toothpicks my friends used to chew when trying to quit. Here is again: TryFum.com/MICTHEVEGAN Also, a really interesting future study would be to see how oxidized and damaging the acrylamide is in vegans compared to non-vegans based since antioxidant intake should be higher in the vegans.

[@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398]

I am at the end of my graduate diploma in lifestyle medicine. This semester we are studying smoking cessation. Australia adopts a more precautionary stance and does not recommend vapes, even ones like fume, as a smoking cessation tool because of normalizing smoking behavior. Just saying!

[@MictheVegan]

@@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398 Thanks and I understand that position but firstly to be clear, Fum is not a vape which I can tell you know but the language was ambiguous ("vapes, even ones like fume"). Secondly, the case for fearing normalization of any pipe shaped object held to one's mouth needs to supersede data in support of herbal air such as a study like this 2023 meta-analysis covering 12 studies on various herbal treatments stating, "The results of this study showed herbal treatments have the potential to help smokers quit the habit." In some cases they saw 3x the smoking cessation over controls but I don't see a strong case in the literature for suppressing the use of flavored air devices. (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10408736/) Eliminating these devices might be cutting off our own leg in terms of solutions that people actually want to use in real life. I think about what my friend who is trying to quit would actually want to use and my friends are excited about this when I show them. I view it as similar to drinking a mock tail which can be a helpful crutch for an alcoholic in social situations. I hope that as vapes have taken over a segment of smoking, perhaps flavored air can take over a segment of vaping and prevent some disease. For a much more drastic example, some thought it would be crazy to give junkies free sterilized needles (normalizing drug use?) but it lowered disease rates. Thanks again for your input. Aside - Needle Exchange Programs Work: "Nearly 30 years of research show these programs are safe, effective, and cost-saving tools that can prevent HIV and high-risk injection behaviors among people who inject drugs." nida.nih.gov/research-topics/syringe-services-programs

[@tosca...]

Ooh! I'm a toothpick fiend😢😅

[@tely5]

Instead of oil, I cook stuff in water, then add some ground flax seed. Getting rid of oil calories means that many calories can be taken by yummy fruits, whole wheat bread, or other healthy options.

[@richardstravelingchannel2397]

bread?

[@eng.miroslavmanahilov1944]

@@richardstravelingchannel2397 , whole wheat bread with multiple seeds like flax, chia, sunflower, poppy and whole sesame is the best.

[@richardstravelingchannel2397]

@@eng.miroslavmanahilov1944 I rarely have bread personally due to all the processed flour and numerous ingredients added where the true nutrients of the wheat have been removed.

[@SveaHovfel-qt6zb]

Swedish food authority warns for flax seed, especially ground-, due to the cyanide content.

[@richardstravelingchannel2397]

@@SveaHovfel-qt6zb Beats Meat eh?

[@tonyalewis9053]

Rosemary & potatoes go together like like good & health! ☺️

[@user-no2mz9hl4f]

You stole my comment! Rosemary potatoes are delicious, and elevate any potato dish.

[@CoppersmithOD]

I love rosemary and potatoes

[@darkangelprincess101]

I recently discovered the goodness of potatoes and rosemary recently. I wish I tried it sooner

[@billsharer1876]

Fresh or dried? Sounds delicous!

[@JackieLopez-s4j]

YES!!!

[@JetLagRecords]

Mic the Vegan, you're redefining what it means to create content

[@His-Most-Catholic-Majesty]

I hope you got paid to say that weird cringe. What exactly is the revolutionary thing Mic did that's changing the definition of creating content?

[@antoinemorcos1321]

Very interesting video Mic. I like the format talking about a varity of new studies in a quicker way. Thx.😊

[@moniqueg868]

Mic the Vegan is one of the only channels I like to get all the videos from. I like the humor/science combo.

[@lesterlasa3367]

I suffered years ago from polyps every time I had a colonoscopy and when I turned vegan, I asked the doctor he said I had no polyps and I asked him is it because I turned vegan and he said most definitely yes because you don’t have the meat rotting in your stomachbut now I’m going for one on Tuesday and I’ll keep you with you and everybody posted what happened? I’m sure I’m gonna be fine.

[@occamsaturn]

I wish you well buddy! veganism isn't a cure-all but I'm really happy to hear it has positive effects on your health in your situation!

[@GarudaLegends]

Wow. You are horrible at lying. Meat literally does not rot in your intestines. No doctor would ever say that nonsense you mentioned, because it is not true and unscientific. The level of lies vegans have to say is wild. No wonder why the vegan numbers are slowly declining and meat sales and carnivore community are rising. Keep making things up.

[@k.h.6991]

​@@occamsaturnnothing is a cure all, but WFPB does cure and prevent a lot.

[@largo8013]

Livestream

[@chiyerano]

Going WHOLE FOOD vegan, not just vegan is important because with how things are even vegans need to be careful.

[@thomastalhelm5029]

I love these science roundup videos. Keep them coming!

[@FungalNetwork]

Thank you for your work, seriously!

[@andrewnorris5415]

Add good. Totally agree on oil being a "sensitive" topic for some, your explanation makes sense. Thanks for the iodine tip, I'm from Europe.

[@lisapellegrino7617]

My Italian Grandmother never cooked potatoes without rosemary. 😊

[@MictheVegan]

Grandma GAINS!

[@someguy2135]

Thanks Mic! You're doing a great job, as usual.

[@jordanjacobs157]

Would you consider uploading your ‘vegan studies volt’ on a google doc that cannot be edited so that we can have access to the list?

[@Cat_Woods]

Even people who have taken off their dairy goggles might not be able to face taking off their oil goggles. 🤣

[@xcast1]

Even in the US and Canada, relying solely on soil iodine from non-supplemented land plant foods will by far not provide adequate iodine. All the vegan Drs recommend getting extra iodine somehow.

[@elizabethheiland5632]

Dr Pam Popper, Dr. Lisle and Dr. Esselstyn dont. Though Ive seen Dr. Goldhammer saying you could put some seaweed on your salad once a week just in case

[@TheFrankissofine]

Every time you put your face on a picture and start talking in a funny voice or accent, I lose it, it you are so hilarious. I wish I could subscribe and thumbs up 10 times

[@elsmooth12]

Mike, do you happen to know of any well-designed studies that compare a vegan/plant-based diet where one has oil and the other nuts/seeds (calorie-matched)? I'd be curious to see any biomarker implications between two groups like this. For example, when calorie matching extra-virgin olive oil vs ground flax seed (300 calories), EVOO gives 34g of fat vs 24g of fat for the flax, with the flax bringing along 15g of fiber (hey, the avg American's daily fiber intake!!), 10g of protein and host of minerals. To me, this would be a cool comparison of a process plant-based fat source against a WFPB (predominately) fat source. Thanks, and keep up the great work!

[@BoogieBoogsForever]

True. I pretty much eat like that, using nuts and seeds as my fat content and not frying my food.

[@tamethyste8488]

I think Dr. Joel Fuhrman talks a lot about this, check out his youtube channel if you haven't already 😊

[@elephantintheroom5678]

@@tamethyste8488 He is an excellent doctor!

[@mark2073]

I eat a lot of natural oils and fats, probably over 30-40% of my calories. Nuts, EVOO, avocados, fish, cheese, fatty meat, butter. No processed oils of any kind. The little bit of belly fat that I had gained before cutting out bread is now gone. I eat as much as I want, I don't gain weight. Fantastic skin and I am more muscular than ever with little effort, I look like Mr. Olympian.

[@elephantintheroom5678]

@@mark2073 So what? Anecdotal. Doesn't prove a thing.

[@stacyhuss9454]

Great video full of information and some fun from Mic💚

[@catlyn777]

Traditional cooks often use rosemary on potatoes.

[@catlyn777]

I want an analysis of studies on nuts and seeds. How about a study looking at a vegan WFPB diet of low oil use, but still including nuts and seeds and the effect that has on our arteries and veins?

[@MictheVegan]

That's the study I hope for next!

[@gaiastone114]

Thank you!! Your videos are always so entertaining and informative. I know the subject isn't exactly vegan, but a video on healing cavities and tooth enamel naturally on a vegan diet would be cool if the studies exist

[@markoszouganelis5755]

@MictheVegan Please can you tell me where to find a list of Vegan KZbin Channels, because the "algorithm" does not helping me to find them (maybe because of the small popularity?) Thank you!

[@thomastalhelm5029]

Keep sticking to the facts on oil! We need more studies, but one thing is clear: people really hate hearing bad news about oil!

[@rupertbear9116]

1. use a microwave to cook potatoes, sweet potatoes, mushrooms, onions. 2. use a pressure cooker to cook dried beans, and raw vegetables. 3. use a saucepan to cook rice, polenta, semolina, lentils, noodles. 4. how i prepare my porridge. put 2 cups of rolled oats in a steel bowl. add 0.5 cup of oat bran. add 0.5 cup of sultanas. add slightly less than 1 cup of boiling water (use an electric kettle for this). mix it all together. wait until its all cold. enjoy.

[@rupertbear9116]

don't use an air-fryer, don't use an oven, don't use a grill, don't use any dry-heat method of cooking; always use moist-methods, like i do!

[@freadelkitty]

@@rupertbear9116why is it bad to dehydrate by airfryer if not using oil yet eat plenty fresh fruits and veg?

[@rupertbear9116]

@@freadelkitty the answer is acrylamide. if you want to use an air fryer to dehydrate food, fine; but if you want to use it to COOK your food, bad idea.

[@freadelkitty]

@@rupertbear9116 thank you!

[@sr-kt9ml]

Awesome way to plug the ad, so relevant

[@markbobich6335]

Why did the chart show lower c reactive protein level with sweetened soy milk than unsweetened? Seems really strange.

[@highaloft]

Just wanted to point out, Clara Foods (now called The Every Company) is an American food company, and founded by a Latino American. So neither is "Spanish," which would be from Spain. It may not be immediately relevant, but it was confusing to me, and i feel as an American that it behooves us to continue celebrating the vegan contributions of other Americans just as much as from other parts of the world, as well as educate ourselves on diverse food cultures, where a tortilla is NOT "Spanish" either, but is a Mezoamerican food (that doesn't usually contain egg).

[@terriem3922]

We went to Spain on vacation. They had rice and many shellfish. I was a kid and avoided the latter.

[@joseluiscorreao.2679]

Thank you Mic!😊

[@rebeccavantassell5377]

Isn’t olive oil good for you in a small amount? I’m absolutely prepared to eliminate oil from my and my child’s diet. Where would you recommend finding out more about alternative cooking styles and liquids?

[@danellekelly1214]

I’ve been sautéeing in water or veggie broth - the Plant You cookbook by Carleigh Bodrug taught me this. It’s a great resource!

[@Niki.kinddiet]

I miss your “Let’s go.” 😢

[@MictheVegan]

I WILL SAY LETS GO NEXT TIME! I never know if people care about that stuff lol

[@marzettik]

Study cliff notes, lol. 😂❤

[@Corilo91]

When I talked about olive oil not being a health food to my family, I had uncles and aunts getting VERY defensive and claiming they could drink a litre of it without any bad health consequence... People are very, VERY dumb. Especially when you question something that they base their identity on. Yes, people base their identity on silly stuff like foods and cars. 🤦‍♂

[@pdplague]

What’s your opinion on using olive oil as a dressing for foods high in fat soluble vitamins(A,D,E,K) to increase bioavailability of these nutrients. ex: massaging olive oil on greens like kale. It’s more calories but you’re getting more nutrients out of your food. I don’t think you should be cooking olive oil but I disagree that it’s not a health food

[@Corilo91]

@@pdplague Any fat will solubilize soluble vitamins and increase their bioavailability. You don't need to use a refined fat that increases postprandial lipemia for that. Also you don't need to "massage" vegetables in oil.😁

[@timothyhoran9521]

Thanks Mic

[@nomenotavailable]

Hello, do you know why there is difference between sweetened and unsweetened soymilk?

[@stephenanguiano8027]

7:06 Dog

[@HappyComfort]

Hahaha! Quick Photobombing by your cute little puppy dog 🐕😂👍🌷Also…Thanks for the great info! 😎👍

[@mark2073]

Hope it isn't vegan

[@11235Aodh]

@@mark2073 Let's hope he or she is www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/ . Cats and dogs just like us humans need a certain amino acid profile from their meat, all amino acids are created by plants exclusively.

[@SchadyLady]

Hey Mic! (From a fellow vegan and big fan of your content) I would love to see your professional take on the ACTUAL merits of the alleged nutritional value that bovine colostrum offers to HUMANS. I’ve been seeing some influencers use it, I truly don’t get it 🙃.

[@lorah3005]

👍 Whole food plant based for the environment and health; vegan for the victims! *Ask your city government to sign the Plant Based Treaty!* 🖖

[@xcast1]

Note, Norway by exception imports >50% of its wheat (and other grains) from Canada and US, which may explain why in this study from Europe by exception the vegans have a little less selenium deficiency % compared to LO and OMNI - vegans still 47%, thus nominally 2nd most critical nutrient after iodine. In the rest of Europa (except Finland with soil fortification) and many other regions, Se is more critical in vegans. Thus, better consider supplementation there. Generally - quote from the same study: "Further-more, the key nutrients that are of concern in plant-based diets are vitamin B12, vitamin D, calcium, zinc, selenium, iodine, vitamin A, riboflavin, and iron [15]."

[@IshmaelKipling]

Immortality awaits.

[@joecaner]

Fortified foods Processed foods so not really one's best source of nutrition Oils are low nutrient/high processed foods

[@maryannhunwick2774]

NIce work, thank you. Truth be told about the fried potatos at restuarants. And I will tell people about fum...hope we can help them.

[@michaelmackey754]

Thanks🥦🥦🥦

[@michaelmappin1830]

Ty❤

[@mark2073]

My sister was a raw vegan. Got nervous system problems from B12 deficiency. Had to get injections.

[@Babesinthewood97]

Yes vegans need b12 supplements

[@dj.h7424]

I needed B12 supplement when I was omnivore. Most people do, as it comes from soil. Animals have B12 injections. I use a sublingual spray a couple times a week and level is perfect

[@k.h.6991]

Yes, supplementation is necessary.

[@MictheVegan]

And therein lies my reference to my previous warning about the philosophies often tied to raw veganism, though they aren't required.

[@sami.1983]

Please tag when you talk about different studies. It's frustrating to shift through the video

[@S-Lewis]

Iodine has been on my radar for years but it is the easiest to forget.

[@mohammedsaqlainshaikh7029]

Just found your channel really great content you are putting up. Really impressed. But are you looking for a video editor?

[@SteveRuprecht]

I think a lot of vegans triggered by low oil plant based diet are already med to low oil and don't know it. Probably never paid much attention tbh. Even unnatural vegan said "I only put a tablespoon of oil in an entire salad dressing" which is already way lower than many conventional dressing recipes.

[@shelydon78]

You take suggestions for your new KZbin videos? You can title it: "Can you maintain or even build muscle on only 50 grams of protein a day?" ----from time to time I hear that is the bare minimum daily requirement that a human needs.

[@TheScazighino]

How to cook potatoes so that we avoid the carcinogen? They are supposed to be the healthiest food on the planet (purple and sweet)…so: are we now screwed ? Or is there a way other than investing in rosemary stocks to remain healthy?

[@giulias.5104]

I love what you are doing but you talk too fast and give half informations about a study, I am having problems to retain anything from what you are saying, sorry. I would love to ear more about the oil/non oil study for istance. Maybe you already talked about it on another video that I am not aware of? Again, love your work. 💚🥦

[@EmmaSolomano]

If you’re struggling with the speed of his speech you can change the speed of the video in the settings. I use it to speed up slow podcasts but you can also slow down videos with it.

[@markus_selloi]

wait u didnt get into the oil study

[@elephantintheroom5678]

Raw vegan for the win!

[@MetalBere]

La tortilla 😂

[@bretbrinkmann4319]

Go vegan! The juice is worth the squeeze! 😂

[@murkel7765]

😮my main problem is the fat loss. I had a normal weight, some thing happens not diet related I lost a lot of weight Ok, I have a vegan lifestyle since 2 years. I hope I don't lose more weight😮

[@11235Aodh]

You'll stall at your bodies ideal lean weight (this would be on the Starch based diet, which is low fat even), you won't drop further and further into nothingness :).

[@אופקאלון-כ1ה]

About b12, i had a deficiency while being vegan but dr didn't see it because i was supplementing (i stopped for 2 weeks before the test as i was told and i only took it for a week or so before that). My level was 600+- and after i introduced animal foods and stopped supplements for about 2months i took the test again and i was at 280. Btw, throughout the whole year I had enlarged RBC and something else that also indicates a possible b12 deficiency, hair loss, seeing flying spots randomly, weakness etc.

[@linkinl1]

This is interesting! And sorry about having b12 deficency - it is no fun. Definitely think this should be talked about more in the plant based community, it is so important... I had been slacking with my b12 supplementation for a while and felt a lot better when i started doing it more consistently. I think I might should take a proper b12 blood test - because I've only been taking the inacurate one that is the most common one. Btw what kind of supplementation did you take? I'm currently taking one in liquid form - i heard somewhere that it was the one that absorps the best - especially when mixed with saliva in the mouth

[@אופקאלון-כ1ה]

@@linkinl1 you're so nice, I really appreciate it🫶 I'm taking methylcobalamin b12 in liquid form as well haha (I put it under my tongue for over a minute). About doing a test, I heard it's best not to supplement for 4 months beforehand for accuracy. In my case, 2 months and it was already showing in my blood so idk..

[@bartjoboy]

@@linkinl1 The best studied one is cyanocobalamin actually. It's also more cheaper. I would highly recommend going to that form since it's more stable than methylcobalamin. I know they market the latter one as the "natural" and bioactive one, but it's also far more unstable, which means you don't know how much of it is still active when you take it as a supplement. Cyanocobalamin works perfectly fine in maintaining B12 in many studies.

[@user-no2mz9hl4f]

People (aka Unnatural Vegan) did get overly fired up about your oil video, and I actually think your explanation makes a lot of sense as to why. Personally, I thought that video was well reasoned, sensible, and not at all extreme. I thought you gave a very balanced opinion on how to apply the results of that study.

[@chelleec23]

I refuse to even watch that video by her. I can tell by the thumbnail and title that she's being btchy about it and I'm not going to subject myself to the negativity. Plus Mike is awesome, and if she can't see that she doesn't deserve our views.

[@elephantintheroom5678]

@@chelleec23 She's based her brand on being bitchy, which I personally find very boring. I prefer Mic's science based content.

[@MictheVegan]

Thanks, I regret being very one sided but I knew if I gave people an inch they would take a mile. Like maybe people will eat half as much oil after watching it but if I said go ahead and still feel good about oil it would be the usual grease works.

[@mathildavere8966]

Unnatural vegan is right tho

[@11235Aodh]

@@mathildavere8966 No she is not, not by a long shot. Try the lectures of dr. Peter Rogers on fat, he's a biochemist from Stanford and can explain very well what fat and oils are doing to our bodies. Other people that are also right where Swayze isn't: Nathan Pritikin, Denis Burkitt, John mcDougall, Caldwell Esselstyn on fat (and that's not even OIL).

[@LightKeys]

If you ever get tired of the vegan diet you gotta try eating chicken breast with drumsticks every meal and potatoes and veg. its super healthy. I used to be vegan BTW, not going back, never. wont even eat beans or legumes now because they lack fatty acids and natural water. you guys forget your beans are soaked in tap water. allergic to nuts and coconut, that's mainly why i'm not going back. I used to watch your channel Mic, now i think your all making a terrible mistake. good luck all

[@Innocence44]

Id look like a skeleton if I didn't consume oil. The level of physical activity I maintain requires it.

[@RobertSearsJin]

🙄😱

[@bAa-xj3ut]

💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝

[@AzherZarach]

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[@Jarkko279]

The day I see one of these.. vegetarian “experts”.. rly doing something. Maybe debate some actual people, LIVE. It’s a different thing, from saying. “There’s a study” Mic can’t read a study. It takes some critical, logic, thinking. What about that LDL bro.

[@thomassaddul6070]

DEMENTIA is coming to this guy.

[@AislingDonohoe]

Very bizarre sponsorship and actually could be problematic....

[@chiyerano]

How, especially if it is a safer alternative to the really harmful substances like tobacco that people are still smoking and vaping?

[@mark2073]

Is LDL actually correlated with atherosclerosis?

[@MictheVegan]

I knew I should've flashed the chart but here it is: discourse.datamethods.org/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5b826eaa8aca3897ff42a539550bc9c81d7b0388.png This includes mendelian or genetically randomized studies what are considered capable of determining causation. Higher LDL = more atherosclerosis and the mechanisms of LDL oxidation and transcytosis (passage of LDL into the artery wall even in the absence of inflammation) are well documented. Thanks

[@11235Aodh]

Yes, LDL changes the viscosity of the blood overriding the zeta potential and them repelling each other. LDL is a bridging molecule which makes the blood cells stick together and to the endothelial lining. Dr. Peter Rogers has done multiple videos on this, after the written works of dr. Gregory Sloop and dr. Roy Swank.

[@MichaelToub]

I wish you did not advertise flavored air. It undermines all your otherwise excellent credibility in all other matters.

[@나익명]

Is there reason to believe it's harmful? It is to get people off vapes and smokes which are certainly harmful

[@janetthoke8027]

Yeah, this is a weird sponsor to me.

[@MictheVegan]

While it isn't part of the company's messaging and is my personal statement, I agreed to do this partnership because research supports herbal inhalation for the cessation of smoking. From a 2023 meta-analysis covering 12 studies on various herbal inhalation treatments, "The results of this study showed herbal treatments have the potential to help smokers quit the habit." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10408736/ I am happy to have my credibility undermined if someone presents better data that nullifies this 12 study meta-analysis. As someone with friends who are trying to quit I really thought this was a cool public health solution but I keep seeing resistance without any sound arguments, just gut-level negative reactions.

[@11235Aodh]

@@MictheVegan This is very good, all the young ones that entered our company have taken up smoking and vaping again.

[@kahrawahler8229]

Maybe if you acted more serious about it, it would be less offensive to people.

[@nikitapower947]

Is your month open its natural position?

[@BikerBreatnac]

Wow, advertising an overpriced thing that might get people hooked onto smoking and vaping... I am very surprised. I won't be watching any more of your videos as a result.

[@v-sig2389]

omg stop with your sponsor, find another one please ...

[@chiyerano]

Why, especially if it helps more people, some of those being in his audience, to stop smoking and vaping harmful substances?

[@elizabethperez6071]

Why is the sponsor an issue? Air is better than smoke and It could help people trying to quit

[@loveloreal]

I'm going to stop watching your videos until you get a new sponsor

[@janetthoke8027]

It is disheartening.

[@Stenz_l]

Why?

[@robinpetersson3081]

I am going to watch his videos twice and click his sponsor to undo your departure.

[@MictheVegan]

I have seen a few of these comments and I really don't get it. Do people not realize that it is herbal air and not a vape? While it isn't part of the company's messaging, I agreed to do this partnership because research supports herbal inhalation for the cessation of smoking. From a 2023 meta-analysis on various herbal inhalation treatments, "The results of this study showed herbal treatments have the potential to help smokers quit the habit." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10408736/ Additionally, "Reported craving for cigarettes was significantly reduced in the pepper condition relative to each of the two control conditions. In addition, negative affect and somatic symptoms of anxiety were alleviated in the pepper condition relative to the unflavored placebo." pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8033760/ "Both black pepper and angelica reduced the level of nicotine craving and allowed a longer delay before next use of tobacco." pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23536963/ IS this a gateway concern like other comments? Are mocktails a gateway to alcoholism? I am waiting for a solid argument against this. Without sponsors, some that certain people won't like, this channel is essentially done and it's back to design work for me.

[@A-NG-ze9yd]

@@robinpetersson3081same!

[@jannacoyote4246]

So, acrylamide is found most heavily in fried foods like french fries, fried okra, tater tots or other fried potatoes, fried zucchini, onion rings, haystack onions & other fried onions? That’s too bad. 😋💜🧅🥔🥒💜😋

[@lotofbitsabout]

You can xhange the playback speed. Click the settings icon in the upper right hand corner. Hope it helps!