July 4th Holiday weekend chores with the little Ford 8N! Channel Memberships Available for additional content, behind the scenes videos and ad free viewing - / @squatch253
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@machinistbytrade3 жыл бұрын
Pre-work grease & oil check ???? Clearly you're not a real farmer....from what I've seen in last 25yrs as a machinist...real farmers don't add grease untill AFTER it's broke down . lol
@jayss103 жыл бұрын
The smart farmers check it and do what's needed. Unfortunately I'll bet you've not met many smart farmers due to the fact they take care of their equipment.
@lowercherty2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how a 70+ year old tractor can still do work. So nice that your equipment isn't just a collection of garage queens.
@jbj274063 жыл бұрын
Good drone work, good tune. Love the 8N's. Thanks for including us.
@lonesomefeller2205 Жыл бұрын
Man I need to get my old girl running and sounding that good. Been neglecting her but she works hard anyway.
@jayss103 жыл бұрын
As you clearly pointed out, you absolutely must run coupler/overrunning clutch. I want to make thus suggestion/note for folks out there. Because the little Ford 8n's and similar tractors have a very different PTO/3 pt arm geometry than modern tractors getting a overrunning clutch on with those attachments can be impossible with a standard overrunning clutch and keeping your driveline angles reasonable. Case in point I picked up a RM600 Woods finish mower to use on it and once I started mounting everything up I figured out that the geometry was just all wrong and putting a standard overrunning clutch on it was going to make it worse. Basically a standard overrunning style clutch moves the PTO back 6-8". In the case of the mower I purchased I would have to cut down the shaft so that it would only be 16" or so. This is a problem because you don't have any telescopic play in the shaft so if you lift the mower you will pull the shaft apart. The best solution in my case was to build a custom shaft with an overrunning clutch built into the pto shaft. Basically the end coupler that connects to the PTO on the tractor also has a overrunning clutch built into it. That way rather than pushing everything back 8" or more it was pushed back only 1-2". Unfortunately the only vendor I found that makes these Weasler doesn't make them for American spec shafts so I had to basically replace the whole shaft and modify it to fit the mower. It cost about $3-400 to build and machine the entire shaft but TBH it was the only way to keep the angles from too getting crazy. I still can't lift the mower all the way up (about 1/2 way) or it will pull the shaft out but at least it's manageable vs what it would have been with a regular overrunning clutch.
@fosterchild4204203 жыл бұрын
I thought my gearbox was loud but I believe you have me beat. Mine has been loud for 20+ years and still runs fine.
@gregdawson19093 жыл бұрын
Grew up with an 8n pre overrun clutch, if you are fast on your feet you bump the throttle and slip the gearbox out of gear without touching the clutch to save yourself from a radiator change. there is a surprising amount of HP stored in the flywheel of that cutter disk.
@TF856 Жыл бұрын
I forgot about bumping the throttle to take the pto out of gear. You can do that on any manual transmission to get it out of gear. That's part of double clutching.
@stevejohnstonbaugh9171 Жыл бұрын
Regarding Senior's food plots;-make sure you include some Chinese Chestnuts. Bigger nut than American and they are very disease resistant. There may be a GMO American with most of the disease resistance of the Chinese - but it won't be commercially available for years.
@matty2helpfull3 жыл бұрын
Those Ford 8&9ns have a incredible balance they are amazing little tractors
@barking.dog.productions17772 жыл бұрын
My step dad bought one for the farm - he could work on it because it was what he used as a kid in the 1940's These things were made for many decades - a really awesome design that should still be made today. No one that I know can afford a personal use modern tractor - sure for a working farm you want that John Deere A/C cab, but just for a family homestead or food plot that professional tractor is over priced and over kill
@TF856 Жыл бұрын
They sure were very nice tractors with the Ferguson 3 point hitch on there. Too bad they didn't have a better clutch system and a better loader bucket on them.
@TF856 Жыл бұрын
What about the 2Ns? 😁
@matty2helpfull Жыл бұрын
@@TF856 to be fair I don't have any experience with the 2ns but I've heard they are good too
@FarmallFanatic3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching last year's hoggin' video like it was yesterday 🤠
@rolanddansereau69473 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the memories. I remember driving the "little Ford' on my Grandmother's farm. Grandpa had passed but my uncle showed us how to drive it. Don't think I was much more than 7 or 8 years old. Always liked those little Fords since those wonderful days
@Tonetwisters3 жыл бұрын
As a little kid of maybe four years old, I can remember the lot my dad built our house on, being cleared by a Ford tractor that looked a LOT like this, from around 1951. I LOVE those old Fords, and yours is beautiful!
@PeopleAlreadyDidThis3 жыл бұрын
That can’t be a brush hog. Real brush hogs have holes rusted in the decks, big enough to drop beagles through. That way, owners can advertise them for sale as, “Good shape, works good. Could use a couple of welds.” Fun to watch. Thanks.
@karsoncampbelllogginginc Жыл бұрын
The reason why the mower‘s probably make the that noise is because the blade is spinning at higher rpm because I have a brush hard too when it makes that noise to it’s the blade spinning fast 6:56
@clydeschwartz21673 жыл бұрын
The old Ford tractor did a excellent job with the mower and disc
@johnquinn38993 жыл бұрын
Hey Squatch I’ve had my king Kutter 6 foot mower about 20 years-heard the same gear noise. Also several other KK products & im throughly satisfied with their equipment. More rocks for the pile- looking good. Thanks, John
@stevemiller8212 жыл бұрын
Great video I have a k k mower like yours and I mixed grease in with the oil in my gear box and it will quite it down also if you're seal was to leak it won't hurt the gear box grease can't get through the seal
@genelegear5418 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 40s-50s with a 9n 1937 on a orchard farm in south Alabama. I operate a early Ford 2000. I love watching your 8n work.... Great camera shots....RTR
@nickhayes92223 жыл бұрын
The music, the view, and that little n are like neon flashing "Americana" in the best possible sense. I approve of all three. Thumbs up good sir!
@1crazynordlander3 жыл бұрын
I have the same King Kutter brush cutter and my gearbox is noisy also. I decided not to go to your machine shop up north but instead interviewed a guy in a nearby town. He seemed to fit the bill so I brought it to him. Everything went fine except for some reason he thought he should punch the the rear cam welch plug out and it happened to be swaged in the block. I am now working with a shoulder in the block the thickness of the new welch plug that is holding the plug in the block. I was not too happy with the shop for that mistake. I am going to use some original JB weld epoxy to help hold it in and drill and tap holes in the block in the cam journal 180 degrees apart and put a metal strap across the welch plug. Everything is ready to go back together as far as the engine is concerned. I took your advice and had them install the sleeves. Thanks for all you share on your channel.
@Michael-he7xn3 жыл бұрын
Almost killed myself running an 8N and a bush hog without a runout clutch. Saw some big rocks in the brush at the last second and I was standing on the brakes when the momentum of the blades pushed the tractor into the rocks. It just about bucked me over the hood and stopped when the bush hog hit the rocks with a loud bang. Someday I need to go back and look for the scars on the rocks.
@evankibbe5903 жыл бұрын
Those little fords are a dangerous little tractor if not used properly. 😊👍 I grew up on one
@CharlesWT-TX3 жыл бұрын
A bush hog almost pushed the M I was on into a drainage ditch before I could get it stopped.
@dwightl58633 жыл бұрын
Long ago experience with the N and haven't driven one for decades. But if you clutch and shift the transmission to neutral the tractor would come to a stop.
@wilf6093 жыл бұрын
The gearbox certainly is noisy!
@Scottinqc3 жыл бұрын
as he said, its cheap, so probably straight cut gears in it. Gonna be noisier than helical cut gears. Plus that top deck is gonna act like a speaker and amplify any sound like a drumhead
@dkeith453 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video OP. I mentioned in a tractor forum recently, that I might buy a Ford N series tractor for bush hogging, and was told not to. That they don't have a 'live PTO' and were terrible for that purpose. But your's seems to do the job just fine.
@frankhagan2965 Жыл бұрын
Late 49 up have live pto! I just bought an early 49 like the new one we got when I was a kid and this one is like new. If you get use to the pto and lift working off the clutch it's no big deal.When I was 14 to 16 yrs I mowed 50 acre pecan groove about once every month and it was nice. tractor.
@wemedeeres41053 жыл бұрын
The dump has a pretty good collection of old cans laying there already so why not add a few more empties!
@jacksmith8273 жыл бұрын
I pick up on everything, I saw you had the blades turning when you put the clipper back under the shed.
@Dextamartijn3 жыл бұрын
Awesome little tractor. I traded in my 8 N for The Dexta because it didn't have live PTO. But there are times I miss it. Got a subscriber great channel.
@DKH352 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that most if not all 8n’s either are, or they all sound like they misfiring. I always thought it was just mine. I have a 48’, and they sound identical. I also had no clue that adapter you have on the PTO shaft to make it free spin even existed. Would have been nice to have that when i seen something laying in field that shouldn’t be there, or in close quarters. Had to push in the clutch, and pray it will stop before you run over it. Just bought a 67’ David Brown 780 Selectamatic wanted something for more HP, and the PTO is separated from lift. Keeping the 8n for now because it seems like everybody and their brother is selling them right now. It’ll be 75 years old next year, and runs just like yours. You have a better paint job. Im typically not a ford guy, but they definitely done good built these little tractors.
@MrGTOFixit3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Squatch and viewers I'm rebuilding a John Deere 750 compact tractor 1984 model I am in need of a tachometer JD part number is ch15209 can’t find it anywhere. Any ideas would help.
@pshodean5 ай бұрын
According to this other fella the top portion of your brush hog is assembled incorrectly. that square welded on block is to support the brush hog and allow for the brush hog to pop up is hitting something and act as a stopper when lifting the brush hog with the arms, see video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX7EfWiZeJWYhNksi=DNsgzCeLJDgpGawT I'm new to this stuff, well the hands on portion, Dad was always one to "watch me work" kinda guy and didn't want any help and kinda resented when I offered to do something. Take a look and see whet you think. I have the next version of the 8N , it's a 600 or 800, I think but the PTO shaft is the same way, it will continue to drive the tractor forward and I wonder if also backward when in reverse? I want to get under the trees as far as possible so there is not the buffer of crap between the trees and field so if the PTO thing happens in reverse that could be a problem. So I'm going to look into that PTO coupling you have an also give my tractor a bath so it looks more like yours than a moving grease pile. LOL
@rickyjessome43593 жыл бұрын
The old Ford 8 and 9's were great little tractors. I missed out on a 8 not long ago for 1500 bucks. It needed some work but was usable. Really enjoy the drone footage. Cheers squatch253
@duanebolen543 Жыл бұрын
I know a guy that had a bush hog behind an Oliver 70 and it pushed him right through the barn Some mores having over-running clutch right on the gearbox which is Handy also
@regunter65993 жыл бұрын
I never drove an 8N, I did some on a Jubilee but most of my bush hogging was done with a pull behind bush hog to either a WD 45 or D 17 Allis Chalmers. Both of those tractors had a hand clutch that would allow the PTO to keep running when it was engaged but the foot clutch would not. I got pushed into a wooden gate and broke the gate. My father was not a happy man about that. I mostly cut cotton stalks or corn stalks, after they were harvested by a corn picker, before the ground was turned over with a moldboard plow. Cotton stalks were the worst, the bolls that never ripened would be caught by the mower and often came out the front of mower. They were really bad on the D 17 because the back of your legs were just below the rear axles and they would come out with enough force to really hurt.
@ditzydoo43783 жыл бұрын
I did not know about the PTO Overdriving coupling.. Were did you get yours??
@TF856 Жыл бұрын
I love driving vintage tractors!!!
@townlinetavern13683 жыл бұрын
SAFETY FIRST Please put PTO shield on tractor
@stevejohnstonbaugh9171 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I read the title I dropped what I was doing and hit play. Why??? Because I knew if anyone would set up and operate a brush hog to my standards it would be squatch. And by God - you did not disappoint. THe tai wheel positioned to support the deck, the deck running level to the area being mowed - all with a tiny antiques Ford tractor and a cheap brush hog. This video should be mandatory for anyone who operates a brush hog - usually the tail wheel is in its highest position, the entire weight of the brush hog deck is hanging off the hitch and the deck is about 20 degrees out of level with the back end dragging in the dirt (or close to it). Drives me nuts that people don't have a little bit of respect for their equipment and any self respect for the quality of their work. What is the turf height you are set up for? Thanks buddy! 😊
@thomasbailey83063 жыл бұрын
My Dad had an 8 N and it was a little beast for dragging logs out. And brushhogging. That would be the only Ford I would own...LOL..HAHA. .Great Video. You need one those little roofs they made for those 8N's. Dad had one on his. They help for all they are...
@seniorelectrician68313 жыл бұрын
I have a field of sticks, roots and rocks. I am hoping to follow your lead of cultivating. I also have a dump rake I was thinking of getting a hitch on and pulling through after cultivating to get the junk into piles or rows would be easier to pick up then too
@yorkshirepud30303 жыл бұрын
Good video, though it might be wise to attach check chain onto the PTO drive shaft outer cover to stop it rotating along with the main shaft.
@jamesdiehl86902 жыл бұрын
They only have what 41 hp, but the torque is great!
@ratrivervintage63063 жыл бұрын
Very, very well done! Great videography! Thank you. We have a 2n, and are picking up a 51 8n this week, very therapeutic video! 😀
@buzzadams787611 ай бұрын
You weren’t kidding! That cutter box is noisy!
@0612Devil2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. My father and I recently purchased a property that came with a running 8N. We have zero idea how to operate it but this video was great for seeing what the possibilities are.
@Vize_Iron2 жыл бұрын
That's great, my grandpa has 1 of these. It's always been a good little tractor.
@Vize_Iron2 жыл бұрын
I want to say on the gear shifter, it's backwards
@rottmanthan3 жыл бұрын
my mower makes noise to, i got it used, the guy even used it the day befor i got it so i just assumed it was all good, then one day i decided to check the oil and there was hardly anything in it, so of course i topped it off, i will just use it as is.
@jondavidmcnabb3 жыл бұрын
You should see if any neighbors want to graze cattle or sheep on that grass. Might save you some time.
@scottleininger24042 жыл бұрын
Awesome use of the old Ford I have a 1940 9N I'm restoring.
@sethturner34622 жыл бұрын
Yeah for the brush hog making that whining noise when it starts up is normal my stepdad has a 52 8n with a woods brush hog and it makes the same noise
@BigJohn519763 жыл бұрын
Any updates on 5J1113? I know you're working on outdoor projects just was curious if there items you sent out that may have come back or not. Keep up the good work.
@ColCastree Жыл бұрын
We had a massy Ferguson 35. Ran a small crops and dairy farm. Did Hill work every day. Never let us down.
@groomfamilyfarm Жыл бұрын
We put a ih b-250 through a barn on a brush hog. Didn’t have a over running pto
@jeremymcauliff84852 жыл бұрын
This brings back memories. My dad used to have an old Ferguson TE20. Pretty much the same tractor.
@heartland96a3 жыл бұрын
It's got the power didn't bog the tractor even a tiny bit . From your description that overrun is a major safety device that should be on any simular tractor.
@johnkrupalla49733 жыл бұрын
That pto seems to be spinning super fast 1000 rpm's . 😜
@jonathanfrecking12103 жыл бұрын
The N series tractors are probably the worst brush hogging tractors ever! An 860 power master with 5 speed transmission would be far better tractor for brush hogging.
@great07892 жыл бұрын
I am seriously looking hard at getting ahold of an 8N for my small 8AC property. I will be mainly using it for Bush hogging the pastures from time to time, box-blading the gravel driveway, and bailing hay. Do you think it would be good for all those jobs??? I will be using a square baler.
@great07892 жыл бұрын
@@squatch253 OK. Thank you. I will look into something else then.
@jdgimpa3 жыл бұрын
I always badmouthed the N series Ford tractors. But then a buddy of mine asked me to get his running. I now have respect for them. Easy for a old automotive tech like me to relate to.
@rexcarnegeejoseph92332 жыл бұрын
The gearbox sounds like it was operated for a time without any oil in it
@Dudleymiddleton3 жыл бұрын
Drop o sawdust'll quieten her down, buh! ;)
@jamesdiehl86902 жыл бұрын
I like the way your mower shaft connects. My friends Woods mower and 8N had a clevis pin to connect the shaft to the PTO.
@larrygold19143 жыл бұрын
Talk about the drive shaft cover on your brush hog. You let it spin with the shaft. Mine all have chains to attach that hold them still. Thought it was a safety thing. Love watching you work. Sense of humor is pretty good too.
@aw7383 жыл бұрын
My dad has been farming for 70+ years. I told him you were using the stabilizers with the disc. He said not the best way to do it. With them I makes it harder to steer while using the disc. He said you need to let the disc swing free side to side.
@barking.dog.productions17772 жыл бұрын
Why plant evergreens when you could have planted food crops? Just a waste IMO to plant anything that you can't eat. That could have been a row of apples down one side and pears with black berries down both sides - what a waste of land and effort. IMO
@barking.dog.productions17772 жыл бұрын
@@squatch253 HAhahahaha thanks for the speedy and personal reply My mom had a cherry tree out in the front yard - we never got a single cherry - we would watch the fruit mature and the day they were ripe enough to be picked a huge flock of birds would eat every cherry in half an hour at the break of dawn. If it was my tree I would have netted it, but she didn't care to do it - she liked feeding the birds I guess. I grow bamboo for a noise barrier, but this is in town with a small city lot. the house and fence are 4 feet apart and form a natural barrier for overgrowth - they grow quickly, small shoots can be eaten, and they make great fishing poles, kite frames, and other building project material.
@Rdrake14133 жыл бұрын
About the only draw back on the 8N is not being able to use the three-point hitch when the PTO is disengaged. Other than that I like my 8N.
@sixtoes23133 жыл бұрын
Hey Clem. Wanna go down to the dump and sip some shine.
@Crossfireranch19 ай бұрын
When you're mowing the really thick stuff have you ever had your pto kick out of gear? I've been having that problem lately.
@squatch2539 ай бұрын
No, we’ve never had this tractor do that.
@316jd1403 жыл бұрын
What size is the rotary mower? 5 foot? I have a line on an used 5 footer, and the guy is telling me it would almost be too much for an 8N.
@316jd1403 жыл бұрын
@@squatch253 ok, that makes sense. Thanks for responding back to me.
@neilshep503 жыл бұрын
Now if I hadn't been watching this video. I'd have mown my postage stamp.
@benkanobe75005 ай бұрын
Where do I purchase a quality PTO over ride like on your PTO shaft?
@squatch2534 ай бұрын
I just bought this one from my local farm supply store, and it’s held up well.
@chrisskelhorn57273 жыл бұрын
Another good 'un Toby! And I'm with you 100% with that rest area! :-)
@chrism.22313 жыл бұрын
Maybe not quite as loud as yours, but my Countyline (same mfr., I think) has a growl too. Bought it used with not a lot of hours and did not look to be abused at all. The guy used it to clear a grassy lot before building his house and then sold it it me at a fraction of new. Cheap little mower, but works well behind the 8n and my NAA.
@paybo35732 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing with my mower drive shaft
@askikr792 жыл бұрын
Had the kk shredder at work and it sounds the same
@iblackbeard Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the 8N tips! Excellent
@jamesdiehl86902 жыл бұрын
Good old 8N! I love it! I learned how to run a tractor on one! 😀😃🙂🙃😊
@oldreliable3033 жыл бұрын
This is why my ford 641 is much nicer than a 8n or 9n, same size, but more power and live hydraulics. And your bushog still has the little wheel at the back and most of the deck has not rotted away... lucky mines, well, junk...
@angelmorales2202 жыл бұрын
I bought a Ford N8 and I would like to know what kind of bush hog you have on that tractor and nice job.
@angelmorales2202 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@sepresley13 жыл бұрын
my dad had a to20 that thing was dangerous
@terrycannon5703 жыл бұрын
I love the music. I used to have a 9 N and I learned real quick i need the overrun clutch when mowing. I have some red cedars that were no bigger than a pencil when i planted them. Must at least be 12" in diameter now.
@l337pwnage Жыл бұрын
I had a relative with an 8N and they used it w/o an overrun clutch. Their tractor still had the original spline PTO shaft, but someone put an adapter on it to make it a modern spline. It had been on so long that only a knowledgeable 8N owner would have noticed. Well, modern splines are about twice as long so only about 1/2 the the adapter was really "powered" and the rest was just taking up space. Eventually they twisted that adapter right off. I learned about over run clutches and found one for them. I did grow up on a farm, but everything we had was equipped with live PTO's and, if an overrun clutch is even needed there, it's probably built into the tractor. TBH, never got to do any tractor repair work, I just drove 'em, lol.
@bcbloc023 жыл бұрын
Might as well start welding that junk pile into a picnick table and benches. :-)
@jacksmith8273 жыл бұрын
I love the smell of disked ground!
@TheChance1703 жыл бұрын
We run chains on our brush hog. Leave the PTO attached and leave the lift lever down. So much easier in my opinion, but we also do not have to drive down the road.
@albertashford7245 Жыл бұрын
The state DOT I work for, we use a length of chain instead of a top link. Allows us to get in and out of ditches easier!!
@gofastsuv3 жыл бұрын
13:20. I thought you don’t like to do that.
@glennford88443 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's nice farm. Good working on land, isn't it?
@michaelscriffiano92673 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to do the trim......
@jonathanstancil85443 жыл бұрын
Never understood why Ford connected the hydraulics to the PTO. On my Farmall H my dad and granddad taught me to just pop it our of gear when you want to stop. Either just grab the lever and pull to neutral or maybe give the clutch a light kick and release while moving the shifter to neutral. That's always worked for me.
@stephenmcfadyen13853 жыл бұрын
Hi, another great presentation, a question, did you get the pony motor block for 1113 machined ???
@sasquatchycowboy5585 Жыл бұрын
The 9N was such an awesome machine. I had a Kabota L185 1979 model. Old tractors are like old sports cars. There is just something special about driving them.
@alancummings56512 жыл бұрын
Like those older Ford tractors. I have a 1952 Ferguson TO30 that I need to have restored.
@ethrwilj2 жыл бұрын
I purchased a 4 ft County Line brush hog from tractor supply about 4 years ago for my ford 8n and the gear box makes the exact same noise. I've had no problems out of it other than just noisy.
@josephjarrell83423 жыл бұрын
Do you have an over run clutch on that tractor because ours can’t go into gear if the pto is spinning
@josephjarrell83423 жыл бұрын
Need to get me one get pushed into too much stuff
@nammie12345 Жыл бұрын
On my 2nd N since 1962, current one is a 1949. Used mostly for mowing with a 60 year old make unknown hog and for dragging logs. Love them.
@Hound4272 жыл бұрын
Great video, checked it out cause I’m thinking bout getting me an 8N. Good job.
@jondavidmcnabb3 жыл бұрын
Man you weren't kidding about the noise from that gearbox. That sounds horrible!!! I love these old Ford Tractors.
@darinhassett47083 жыл бұрын
Our grandpa had a Ford 600 we used it for everything disking cutting baling pulling logs out and pulling the trailer with hay for the cows
@antondekock82173 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you are growing rocks again.
@PurpleCollarLife2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! We love our Ford 8N.
@richardharris77143 жыл бұрын
You should put a plow on the D 2 caterpillar
@joedirt96005 ай бұрын
Good day sir, I have a 1949 8n and was wondering how wide your brush is ? Would it be a 4' or a 5' looks like a 4' ?
@squatch2535 ай бұрын
The one in this video is a 5' (or 60") size and I would say that's about the maximum that I'd want behind one of these tractors. It matches the width of the tractor very well, but if the grass gets much above 18" tall, the tractor starts working very hard to cut through it unless I start taking 1/2 width cuts.
@joedirt96005 ай бұрын
@@squatch253 ah good to know,,,thanks for the advice..
@duanebolen543 Жыл бұрын
I grew up with an 8N Ford 1952 with the side distributor and also had the tachometer and the extra three-speed on the side so I had 12 gears going forward and three reverses and that was a nice little
@ssnydertrucking11213 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the people who make gearboxs for king cutter also makes them for BMB. It is almost sounds the same.
@williamfrost38572 жыл бұрын
I love your 8N Ford tractor and it looks good after you got through mourn the grass what's the purpose of the disc
@nrpforty3 жыл бұрын
I have the older version of that king cutter brush hog ,however, my gear box doesn't sound like yours try removing the gear oil and replacing it with lucas oil additive read the instructions for the oil and additive ratio . I use lucas in all my motors and gear boxes it makes gear boxes run quite .