Middle Earth is Finnish - influences of Finnish mythology on J.R.R. Tolkien's world

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@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
How Tolkien fell in love with Finland / @Irish in Finland: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqOxpJ-qnNSUrdk
@vaughanrichards7438
@vaughanrichards7438 7 ай бұрын
He also fell in love with with Welsh.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
@@vaughanrichards7438 can't blame him for that
@caroldelosangeles3621
@caroldelosangeles3621 3 ай бұрын
I was living in Finland and now I just passing by as a visitor and I’m very aware about this and as a fan of professor Tolkien this helped me to “survive”the cold winter and have massive respect for this beautiful heart people who has been well kept their folklore and sharing with the world.Suomi people I love u and admire you so much!🇫🇮🧝🏻‍♀️🙏🏾❤️
@priotesecosmin5923
@priotesecosmin5923 7 ай бұрын
The most memorable moment of the (both book and movie) trilogy was Gandalf telling the Balrog "You shall not pass, Perkele!"
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
😂😂👌
@justanothergunnerd8128
@justanothergunnerd8128 6 ай бұрын
Now I am thinking of Gandalf speaking awesome and amazing Finnish - perkele paska!
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan Ай бұрын
@@justanothergunnerd8128 never mix a power word like perkele, with paska. perkunas (perkele) - the deity, whom you are addressing is nothing to be put in the same village with ordinary manure which would be paska. seriously, finns dont ever say "perkele paska" something can be paska - but thats just an adjective, while perkele is an angry cry to the gods. Or something like fuz-do-rah in skyrim. if you need a word combo, then it is usually "saatana perkele" glad i can help :)
@aleks5405
@aleks5405 7 ай бұрын
The most Finnish praise ever: "Tolkien did alright with his stories" For those who are not from the north, this is a massive praise to be taken with a humble heart.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
Indeed! :D
@waynesmith3767
@waynesmith3767 2 жыл бұрын
Tolkien fell in love with the Finnish language ( and who wouldn’t? ) which led him to Kalevala and eventually creating The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Which is really cool.
@waynesmith3767
@waynesmith3767 2 жыл бұрын
My point is a matter of historical, biographical fact. You can look it up in books on Tolkien.And of course he read the sagas and Edna’s; they fell within his academic field.
@waynesmith3767
@waynesmith3767 2 жыл бұрын
Text was mid-corrected from “Eddy’s” to Edna’s”! - sometimes autocorrect is a hoot.
@waynesmith3767
@waynesmith3767 2 жыл бұрын
Miscorrected again! Autocorrect doesn’t like”Eddas”!
@samspencer582
@samspencer582 Жыл бұрын
@Marcus It is because of Kalevala that we have the story of the Ring.
@АндрейМаксименко-н5д
@АндрейМаксименко-н5д 2 жыл бұрын
And this is how my dive into finnish mythology begins
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it's an interesting dive and you won't get eaten by a vetehinen or Iku-Turso
@Murgoh
@Murgoh 7 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation By the way, Vetehinen and Iku-Turso were the names of two of the five submarines of the Finnish navy during WW2.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
@@Murgoh damn right!
@justanothergunnerd8128
@justanothergunnerd8128 6 ай бұрын
I'm definitely reading the Kalevala now... I knew it influenced Tolkien but now it is time to dive in since I've never read it. Finns rock!
@FinnoUgric
@FinnoUgric Жыл бұрын
Epic video. Very informative. Greetings goes out from Hungary Suomi Cousins. May the Gods bless all the Finno-Ugric Nations/Tribes.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Greetings back!
@NordenTV
@NordenTV 2 жыл бұрын
The Elvish Quenya indeed brought Kvens to my mind as well. There are different forms of the name in old maps and other sources with similar pronunciation. Kvenland, known as Cwenland, Cwenaland, Qwenland, Kænland. (Kvens, Qwens, Quens, Cwens, Cwenas, Kvænir) Qwnio, Qwens - by Ulfilas (in Gothic: Wulfila), c. 352; Finnas, Cwenas - by Ohthere of Hålogaland, c. 888; Finnas, Cwenas, Qwen (Qwensae) - by King Alfred the Great of Wessex, c. 890.
@caroldelosangeles3621
@caroldelosangeles3621 3 ай бұрын
🧝🏻‍♀️Finnish lenguaje is music for my ears”I said this everyday to every person who ask me what I think about !I was living in Finland and now I just passing by as a visitor and I’m very aware about this and as a fan of professor Tolkien this helped me to “survive”the cold winter and have massive respect for this beautiful heart people who has been well kept their folklore and sharing with the world.Suomi people I love u and admire you so much!🇫🇮🧝🏻‍♀️🙏🏾❤️
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@N_0968
@N_0968 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! My English partner refused to listen to your reasoning but I think there’s a clear link between Kalevala and LOTR. He was trying to make a national epos for England to look like the ones he loved and even if he didn’t mean all the parallels there are still a lot of similarities.
@_SimpleJack_
@_SimpleJack_ 2 жыл бұрын
It's no secret Tolkien studied Finnish mythology so naturally he would incorporate what he had learned. Your partner sounds very closed minded 😂
@N_0968
@N_0968 2 жыл бұрын
@@_SimpleJack_ His point was that Tolkien wanted to give an origin story for England not copy Finland. I don’t think he bothered to listen to the point because the video never denied it being what Tolkien intended to write.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
That's was Kalevala is pretty much - a fictional story wound together by Lönnrot from old runes. If human civilization survives another 100 years, Lord of the Rings may well be considered a national epic of England.
@N_0968
@N_0968 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anttimation The same way Kalevipoeg is put together from old stories combined and made into a cohesive epic poem by Kreutzwald.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
@@N_0968 I really have to read that.
@michael.adamyk
@michael.adamyk 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for letting me react to your video! It was a blast diving into Tolkien's world through the Finnish connection and your cool animations. And who knows, maybe this is the nudge I needed to finally read The Silmarillion again, too! 😄 Cheers!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate you asking as well :) Yeah I say we go and read it now!
@gmansard641
@gmansard641 11 ай бұрын
One thing I have never seen mentioned is that the Kalevala in Finnish, and some translations (Crawford for example), has a meter of eight syllables per line. Many of Tolkien's songs follow the same pattern. Have a look at the magical struggle between Sauron and Finrod in the Tale of Beren and Luthien.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 11 ай бұрын
I have not paid attention to that. Thanks for enlightening!
@end0skeleton404
@end0skeleton404 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up watching the LoTR, I have a nice bookset on my bookshelf too, guess what sets before it, The Kalevala. They definitely have a strong link, but you can tell he gets a lot of other inspiration from Norse Mythology too. Great video though, much better than those who think it's linked to WWI. He wrote LoTR as an escape, not to be reminded. I think it's good for new stories to come about from the gods of Nordic Mythology though instead of these comic superheros.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up watching LotR was the best thing! I wish I'd been born just a couple of years earlier so I could have seen them in the cinemas.
@N_0968
@N_0968 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anttimation I only missed seeing the final one in the cinema because I was ill. I hadn’t read the book when I saw the first one and read it in English and Finnish before the second one came out. It was such a different experience to see the second film and how the creatures I imagined came to life (like Treebrard!).
@JazSemGrega
@JazSemGrega 2 жыл бұрын
You can almost feel the enthusiasm about Finnish mythology in your voice 😅😅
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Almost!
@sfinski
@sfinski 4 ай бұрын
As an addition; in both stories they fought battles by singing! In Kalevala the most famous one being obviously the one between Väinämöinen and Joukahainen, where Joukahainen gets sung into a swamp. In Silmarillion the counterparthner could be the one battle between Sauron and Finrod Felagund.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 4 ай бұрын
@@sfinski good addition. Thanks!
@turpasauna
@turpasauna 27 күн бұрын
I've realized only recently how massive Finnish culture is on singing, poems and playing instruments. If you were to give out certain data to back this up, but not tell which country it is from, almost nobody would get it right. 😅 Finns treat all these things like a natural way of life, "stuff that happens weekly/monthly/yearly". Like: "Oh look, another music competition! Gee why are all these world class performers taking part?" (Because it's one of the most respected and oldest competitions concerning the subject.) Stuff like this.
@topherdekleine1906
@topherdekleine1906 2 ай бұрын
Deep diving into Tolkien and his inspiration is why I am suddenly interested in Finnish Mythology.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 ай бұрын
@@topherdekleine1906 nice! He was a master of taking inspiration from old folklore/mythology and creating a whole mythical world based on it
@WMfin
@WMfin 2 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted an epic Kalevala movie but if all we get is quality of Rings of Power and Hobbit movies, nah, no thanks! Great video!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
There was a project in pre-production involving Markus Selin (hyi saatana) but never got done, probably better that way. Now would be a better time than ever, there is stronger skill in the Finnish film industry unlike ever before, now someone just needs to secure funding, which is a bit of a problem. Would be so good to see instead of a millionth instalment of some Luokkaputoussimohedberg trash.
@iamnotpolite
@iamnotpolite 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up watching films and readings books about Tolkien’s legendarium. 3 years ago I also started learning Finnish because I loved how it sounds 🧡 Thank you so much for your video! Now it’s my favourite KZbin channel 🌿
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing comment, thank you! :)
@dangmefinnish
@dangmefinnish 8 ай бұрын
Now I can't unsee elves basically going around shouting PRRRRKLE on the battle field.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha sounds more fitting for the orcs but I see what you mean!
@Murgoh
@Murgoh 7 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation Or maybe dwarves.
@susanner.8587
@susanner.8587 4 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation Must check now, would the elwes have some influence from hakkapelittas in their attack formation..?
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 4 ай бұрын
@@susanner.8587 Don't think they make much cavalry forces tbh. Elves, that is.
@Peter-ri9ie
@Peter-ri9ie 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Simply brilliant. This was a really great video. I’ve read LOTR and other books by Tolkien many, many times and the Kalevala a couple of times and have read how he found inspiration from old Finnish mythology. Thanks! 🙏🏻
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words! Made my day 😎
@ukraine-gonna-beat-ruzzia
@ukraine-gonna-beat-ruzzia Жыл бұрын
Love all the puns and word plays!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
Haha I'll make sure to include some in the next one then...
@ullaantolos5733
@ullaantolos5733 Жыл бұрын
such a discovery! thanks for your video offerings.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
Glad you hear you've found your way here!
@SpockTheExtreme
@SpockTheExtreme 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and animation (sinä olet velho)! I have a growing love and respect for Finnish things, and I end up doing deep dives in things I love. I think that part of what Tolkien did was to make a believable, cohesive take on the ancient stories surrounding greater Europe, finding commonalities in them. Finnish lore definitely plays a part in the world he built. The inspiration is there. I don’t really want to watch RoP, though I own multiple copies of LoTR, including books and movies. I have also read and seen The Hobbit. I’m a fan of what Tolkien created. RoP takes quite the modern, creative license on things. Too much seems out of character and spirit for me (mostly Galadriel). They worked hard and I’m sure it will appeal to some fans.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joshua! RoP was set to fail from the moment they decided to make a Second Age show without the rights to Silmarillion. So instead of giving the fans the story they already love, they made their own. Might work if you'd not read the books.
@ilokivi
@ilokivi Жыл бұрын
@@Anttimation From what I've seen of RoP, it's täysi susi. Having read the Kalevala which deals with Kullervo's life and Sibelius' fabulous orchestration of it alongside the Silmarillion, the influence on the story of Turin Turambar is extremely strong. To paraphrase a well-used sananlasku: you can tell the new tales, when you've told all the old ones.
@umitertin4932
@umitertin4932 Жыл бұрын
The overall spirit of the mythology I saw in this film had many similarities to Turkic Shamanist/Tengriist mythology, which by the way, also has a Middle Earth where the humans, animals, and so on, live. Add the similarities between Finno-Ugric languages and Turkic, one can see the evidence of some common ancestry in Siberia.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I am not familiar with Turkic myths at all... at least not yet.
@OldForestBushcraft
@OldForestBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanx for making this, keep up the good work!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
Thank you! A new episode is in the making...
@OldForestBushcraft
@OldForestBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to that👍@@Anttimation
@OldForestBushcraft
@OldForestBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Have to say Im soooo happy that there are great history content, like your channel nowadays in youtube. If I wouldnt have become a musician, maybe a historian really. Well I did have to do the decision, as I was accepted to study history in uni, but turned that down because music studies. But it has remained passion of mine. Going to start to do more History content on my channel (or maybe start a new channel for that). Lets see. At the moment drinking morning coffee and watching fourth video by you. Cheers from the Village of Fiskars, have great day! @@Anttimation
@angelsmagick
@angelsmagick 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video, I just loved it, thank you for making them. Sending all my best to you, Maggie
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Maggie!
@jakkeledin4645
@jakkeledin4645 Жыл бұрын
Oldiest part of Kalevala are from stone age. Kalevala has inflict much that later come Eddas and Beowulf. Beowulf has odd connect to Kalevala. Not suprize that Tolkien like it.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
Also versions of the creation myths (the diver myth) are also found in N. America, likely formed before the migration of the ancestors of the Native Americans. Really old stuff!
@mythologyandbeyond
@mythologyandbeyond 2 жыл бұрын
Great info. Nicely done!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙌🙌
@ukraine-gonna-beat-ruzzia
@ukraine-gonna-beat-ruzzia Жыл бұрын
I think the concept of word-based magic in Kalevela prophesied the development of computer science and computational modelling for engineering. In ancient times, people just looked at the deep complexity of nature, and realized there is some deep order inside that could potentially be understood and controlled. In our time, our modern blacksmiths use the language of computers to investigate the nature of reality and create new tech products.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting way to look at it and something I've certainly never thought about. Thanks for sharing
@ukraine-gonna-beat-ruzzia
@ukraine-gonna-beat-ruzzia Жыл бұрын
@@Anttimation I think Kalevala is a lot about thinking about what things are physically made of and the deeper meaning (such as cultural meaning) behind why they are made that way. Also, I think Kalevala shows awareness of how poetry and language shape our minds to perceive the world in different ways, which is a power of language that can be used for good or evil (e.g., sharing the truth vs. making propaganda/false narratives). Basically, it is a kind of ancient folk psychological and philosophical wisdom.
@o5-1-formerlycalvinlucien60
@o5-1-formerlycalvinlucien60 15 күн бұрын
Also, the God of the sea, Ahto (or Ahti, he's called Ahto in Kalevala for some reason), living in a palace beneath the seas called Ahtola brings to mind the Vala of the sea, Ulmo, living in a palace beneath the seas called Ulmonan.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 14 күн бұрын
Yes, although I think that's common for godly sea rulers and could have been inspired by any of them
@akiyrjana6558
@akiyrjana6558 Жыл бұрын
Ilúvatar may contain traces of Ilmatar, but it is also a linguistic incarnation of the Allfather, Odinn.
@nox4000
@nox4000 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, thanks Antti!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@peterszeug308
@peterszeug308 7 ай бұрын
Greetings to Finnish paganism from German paganism! If Russian Orthodoxy tries to get their grubby hands on Finland again, Finland deserves more international backing than last time!
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
Well, let's hope they're smarter than to try that again...
@MrJakobMovies
@MrJakobMovies 6 ай бұрын
I had no idea about this at all, im swedish and a hobby historian and lotr nerd, how did i miss this?
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 6 ай бұрын
Glad you discovered it eventually!
@Damn3dYank33
@Damn3dYank33 8 ай бұрын
As a full blooded Finnish American, at the age of 64 I’m delving into my history and heritage. Now I can understand why I just never spiritually understood Biblical fiction and the blood spilled in its name…
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 8 ай бұрын
Glad to hear! And also hoping you'll find these videos useful
@rstkrqwerty
@rstkrqwerty 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@SupahBon
@SupahBon Жыл бұрын
Ilmarisen vasara on Otava. Sen voi kuvitella näyttäneen eniten vasaralle muinaiselle ihmiselle. Esim. Hakaristi symboli on tullut kun yhdistetään yhteen kuvaan Otavan sijainti eri päivätasauksissa. Otava sijaitsee pohjantähden vierellä ja pyörii vuoden mukaan sen ympäri. Tässä havaitaan myös ns. Ilmarisen taonta. Iso sampo pyörii jauhaen pois vanhaa, samalla luoden uutta.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
Mistäs tämä tieto?
@flowlee3656
@flowlee3656 2 жыл бұрын
Music by Karneh. :)
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Fits like a sword tip between the ribs!
@ShadesApeDJansu
@ShadesApeDJansu 2 жыл бұрын
Not to be complete grape in mouth about you're video, i had to check the Tom Bombadil part since i've forgotten about him, i readed LOTR after the movies and really did not remember anything about Tom Bombadil so thank you for the reminder. It was nice to read the LOTR parts again where Tom Bombadil appears, he is the most mysterious character in Middle-Earth and maybe unfinished character since J.R.R has gone to heaven, maybe i will hear who Tom Bombadil is after i die :) Bombadil uses singin to free the hobbits from "Old Man Willow" by singing into it's tree trunk, this magical tree lures his pray then makes em sleep but his powers are nowhere near of Tom Bombadil
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
The identity of Bombadil has been speculated a lot but I think there's an interview where he admits that he's a riddle, hehe
@ShadesApeDJansu
@ShadesApeDJansu 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anttimation Ok the words that come out of J.R.R Tolkien are golden in my book, so he is a mystery :) Thank you for telling me !
@IlmariMaattanen
@IlmariMaattanen 8 ай бұрын
You did not mention that Silmarillion is "S ILMARI LLION". 😅
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 8 ай бұрын
😂😂
@FannomacritaireSuomi
@FannomacritaireSuomi 7 ай бұрын
Well, at least Finland has become the opposite of Middle Earth in the modern times. Very few castles, fortresses, oak forests or surviving traditions and no royalty, mountains, legendary people or great waterfalls. This is mostly a cold country filled with concrete boxes: not even close to what Tolkien had in mind. The language is nice, if you detach it from the context.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
Well if we add the woods/nature spoiled in favour of industry, don't we then pretty much have Mordor?
@Packless1
@Packless1 10 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="275">4:35</a> ...prosperity...and lots of trouble...! 🙁
@pexrinne5144
@pexrinne5144 3 ай бұрын
The eagles were actually Manwë´s servants (as he is god of winds, airs and birds and king of the world) so he might have something to do with the eagles saving heroic people.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 3 ай бұрын
@@pexrinne5144 ah! Good point. I didn't know/remember that. Should read the Silmarillion again soon.
@beersmurff
@beersmurff 2 жыл бұрын
Well, he took heavy inspiration from many cultures and sagas and myths. Greek, Nordic, Slavic, Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Irish, etc. So not surprising he also got inspiration from Finnish myths and language. Only thing Tolkien didnt like, was French which he openly stated. Such an open mind yet so narrow in some regards 🙂
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Specific taste, but I guess not uncommon for the English to not like some things French. If I remember correctly, he also criticized his friend CS Lewis' mixing of Greek and Nordic myths in Narnia.
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 11 ай бұрын
​@@Anttimation So Lewis came up with God of War Ragnarök?
@squaeman_2644
@squaeman_2644 7 ай бұрын
He got Theodoric of the Visigoths in there. And he had influences from the song of Roland which is basically French. And Gondor has a lot in common with Byzantium.
@vasstagoarchipelagus5954
@vasstagoarchipelagus5954 2 ай бұрын
I agree Scandic, Slavic and Irish...rest i disagree...50% are Finno-Ugric
@bengthyytiainen7030
@bengthyytiainen7030 7 ай бұрын
Salve Karjala ! 😇
@o5-1-formerlycalvinlucien60
@o5-1-formerlycalvinlucien60 22 күн бұрын
It's 100% not a coincidence that Utumno, the original fortress of Morgoth in the first war agains the Valar, is very similar to Untamo from Kalevala. (Also, if you take Kullervo to be Túrin, then naturally, his father's captor, Untamo, would be Morgoth)
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 21 күн бұрын
Hmm! Didn't think of that
@relacionomia
@relacionomia 4 ай бұрын
Sampo + Nibelung = The One Ring Well... It's hard to create, so one better just use parts of what already is there
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 4 ай бұрын
@@relacionomia I think it also resonates well with a reader from a similar cultural background, having some common ground
@bookmouse2719
@bookmouse2719 7 ай бұрын
What a cute little troll! Or whatever. Most impressive animation.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
It is a troll indeed! Thank you!
@bookmouse2719
@bookmouse2719 7 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation I subbed :)
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
@@bookmouse2719 welcome! A new video should be out soon 😎
@samspencer582
@samspencer582 Жыл бұрын
I like that is a troll or a goblin is explaining Kalevala here.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
Due to limited budget I couldn't hire an actor. Trolls have reduced rates.
@klhaldane
@klhaldane 11 ай бұрын
Terve! Kiitos! Perkele! That's the extent of my Finnish, I doubt Tolkien would be impressed. XD
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 11 ай бұрын
That's a solid foundation! 😁
@leedrummond6960
@leedrummond6960 24 күн бұрын
Could I just give a practical comment that it's very hard to follow what you are saying with the constant music in the background. I have an auditory processing disorder though there will be other auditory difficulties that will also struggle with it. Please consider that in future when producing your videos as I would like to learn about Finnish mythology but please consider accessibility.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 24 күн бұрын
Ok thank you! That's not something I've thought about 🤔 The music is 20 dB lower than the narration which is typical, but it might be that the style/sound of the music makes it harder to understand
@zoeblopaistinpannu5278
@zoeblopaistinpannu5278 Жыл бұрын
supposedly, the very idea that wizards use staffs to cast spells comes from finnish mythology but i don't see that
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
Hmm, I haven't heard of that nor can I think of a Finnish example off the back of my head
@woodchuck9
@woodchuck9 2 жыл бұрын
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@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
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@lllPlatinumlll
@lllPlatinumlll Жыл бұрын
I pray that you regain your sight little goblin guy.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
That could be arranged...
@gavinrolls1054
@gavinrolls1054 7 ай бұрын
Germanic + Uralic = based
@JannyBesmircher
@JannyBesmircher Жыл бұрын
LOTR is implicitly Nordic so its very reasonable for people to get annoyed with Hollywoods constant "Brown washing" I dont like when movies white wash characters either..
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
Well the idea of adapting a historical or classic fiction to reflect today's society takes a lot away from the work it's supposed to adapt to begin with.
@fallenknight3016
@fallenknight3016 7 ай бұрын
and i discorved finnish mythology through metal
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
Not uncommon! Proud of our bands :)
@fallenknight3016
@fallenknight3016 6 ай бұрын
@@Anttimation ensiferum for example
@DestinyCrafter
@DestinyCrafter 7 ай бұрын
For those (well most) who don't know: Kalevala was, unfortunately, mostly stolen by Lönnrot from Karelians. :/ It's not really Finnish. But I expect Tolkien was unaware of this.
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 7 ай бұрын
Half of Kalevala's material can be found in Estonia. Did they "steal" it as well? In Lönnrot's time Karelia was not seen as a separate nation with people much different to the Finns as far as I know. The rune singing was a common tradition of Finnic peoples, and many of the runes of Kalevala originate e.g. in Western Finland.
@vaenii5056
@vaenii5056 7 ай бұрын
Haistappa kuule. Where you think Savonians came from? Finnish Karelians? Those Finns who descent from Karelian evacuees? I mean if you are Finno-Swede living in Ostrobothnia then I can understand the argument that the book has nothing to do with you but other than that haistappa vaan.
@VictorLdVS
@VictorLdVS 6 ай бұрын
Karjalaiset ovat suomalaisia… eli Lönröt ei varastanut keneltäkään mitään, koska itseltään ei voi varastaa
@ShadesApeDJansu
@ShadesApeDJansu 2 жыл бұрын
Christian Finnish Frostiis J.R.R Tolkien was very angry about his favorite story in Silmarillion the Túrin Turambar's story is just plagiarization of Kalevala's Kullero story, even if the author himself was angry the finnish still keep the mention of Kullervo on the back of J.R.R Tolkien's books and that is disrespecting. Gandalf is a angel J.R.R himself explained that the deities of Middle-Earth are better understood by christians as they know of the hierarchy of angels. Lets remember that J.R.R Tolkien wanted to make a story that promotes christian values (the author of Narnia books also went with this route after the two had a converstation about the issue) no longer would Britain have to endure they're national epoch being pro-christian fiction The King Arthur's story. So as you can see the Middle-Earth is more inspired by christianity than pagan beliefs, not to say J.R.R Tolkien was not interested in them but you can go so much overboard with this that you actually got J.R.R Tolkien angry. I am finnish and i've in the same boat with J.R.R just if the story has similar features, that does not make the story plagarization and he had every right to be offended. Let's finnish people be glad what we have contributed to Middle-Earth but let's also remember who wrote the books and we finnish did not write Tolkiens work but we as anyone else get to enjoy them. Iluvitar is just Ilmatar... to much jumping to conclusions ! Tolkein wanted to spread christian values thorough his work, he would not name his prime deity as just wind. You read too much into paganism, this is the attitude that ruins the feeling of J.R.R Tolkiens work, just purely like the historians like vultures you rip pieces of the original meaning away. Sampo gives only profit, Middle Earth relics give power Louhi is just a human as Morgoth is Arch-Angel type being, you cannot compare. You too would make J.R.R mad with you're plagarization accusations on the Túrin Turambar & Kullervo story. That story is like i said J.R.R favorite and my favorite of Silmarillion, maybe you should read more J.R.R than you're pagan endorsing pages
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Turin's story is Kullervo's story but set in Middle Earth ;)
@ShadesApeDJansu
@ShadesApeDJansu 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anttimation Sorry no if J.R.R is a pissed about that accusation and i am also a christian like him i believe him and i am pissed. I know everyone says that since the stories have 1 similar situations, but my God give J.R.R Tolkien who said that's his favorite Silmarillion story (mine too, probably everyones) some credit as he wrote the story of Túrin Turambar and it's not a plagarization of Kullervo since that would go against the original concept of J.R.R Tolkien to spread christian values without making christian fiction thorough fantasy it would be the polar opposite where J.R.R Tolkien is thorough plagarization spreading pagan mythology thorough fantasy but as you've seen J.R.R Tolkien really hid the christian values in the story, as for the similarities of Túrin Turambar & Kullervo all for all to see. I do not believe Túrin Turambar is the Kullervo in middle-earth, Túrin Turambar story starts with his father Húrin and you could say that Túrin story is still a piece of a larger story known as the The Children of Húrin
@ShadesApeDJansu
@ShadesApeDJansu 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anttimation Not to be complete grape in mouth about you're video, i had to check the Tom Bombadil part since i've forgotten about him, i readed LOTR after the movies and really did not remember anything about Tom Bombadil so thank you for the reminder. It was nice to read the LOTR parts again where Tom Bombadil appears, he is the most mysterious character in Middle-Earth and maybe unfinished character since J.R.R has gone to heaven, maybe i will hear who Tom Bombadil is after i die :)
@chasx7062
@chasx7062 2 жыл бұрын
So Middle Earth is Wacist coz it is Finnish??? hahaha
@Anttimation
@Anttimation 2 жыл бұрын
Wacist? 😅
@beersmurff
@beersmurff 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anttimation Dont pay the weeb too much attention, he's just jealous cuz he cant make videos 🙂 But wacist is slang for "Descriptor for things that retarded, attention horny " Stay strong, trolls dont fear daylight but being ignored 🙂
@milandjordjevic7225
@milandjordjevic7225 Жыл бұрын
Your tone makes it hard to followed, it seems you did that on purpose, it's not cool , it's boring, doesn't keep your attention
@Anttimation
@Anttimation Жыл бұрын
I'm only a writer, illustrator, animator, refrigerator - but no voice actor.
@Jemppu
@Jemppu Жыл бұрын
Consider it your introduction to the Finnish pattern of talking, too ;)
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