Midir Still The Best Dragon Even After Elden Ring | Darkeater Midir | No HUD Boss Fight

Dark Souls 3 Darkeater Midir No HUD No Damage Boss Fight
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[@jrivera482]

That Megaflare attack at the end so awesome, you can see Midir's desperation in a last attempt to take you out.

[@kun]

Midir's Ruin

[@freddogrosso9835]

For real, they could name this dragon Bahamut, and it would make perfect sense.

[@thadofalltrades]

Yea that attack puts him up a notch above the Elden Ring dragons. Makes the fight feel more dramatic. I think the Elden Ring dragons have a better general moveset, but it's not as dramatic. Fortissax is the most dramatic of the Elden Ring dragons given the arena and lore around him.

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

@@thadofalltrades yea elden ring dragons really pale in comparison. Dragon lord was cool, but not hard and rewarding like midir. More of just a damage sponge = boring made up for it in spectacle but could of been so much more. Midir felt like a true fight agaisn't a arch dragon. Like we were really fighting a being worthy of being called the "perfect lifeform". Even battered and broken put up such a fight. Elden ring has taken boss AI and movesets to the next level but it lost that "personality" bosses use to have. Like midir, gael, twin princes, demon prince, etc. Black blade was close, but not quite there. Same with godfrey and radagon. Also just putting this out there Malina sucked. She wasn't hard, Just BS. Im looking forward to hopefully them recovering this aspect of boss fights, Along with improved AI / Spectacle they are capable of now. They will make something that will NEVER be topped if they get it back.

[@thadofalltrades]

@@WorldKeepsSpinnin midir also has a ton of health, which makes him a lot harder.

[@freddogrosso9835]

You fight dragons head on. This is how it's suposed to be done. Not chipping away their health by hitting their feet. What an amazing fight.

[@AaronCorr]

I never manged to stay in front of Midir. Always switched between his throat and tail 😅

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

@@AaronCorr Try it, Fighting him head on is what elevates this fight from a spectacle to the best designed boss fromsoft, No honestly in all of gaming has ever made.

[@supersaiyannerd]

Yea, Kalameet, Ancient Dragon, Sinh, we fought them by attacking them not on the head, only in Dark Souls 3 we fight dragon heads on. Kinda overwhelmed at first, but it becomes real easy when I finally know how to fight him heads on.

[@TheHeavyassaulter]

Asians..

[@freddogrosso9835]

@@TheHeavyassaulter What do you mean?

[@obsoletetortoise4785]

Fighting Midir felt like you were actually fighting a real ass dragon, coolest fight in ds3 imo

[@giovannibarel5536]

I can understand why a lot of people prefer Placidusax over Midir: a lot of spectacle, cool moves, not too easy nor difficult Midir on the other hand seems like a insurmontable mountain: extremely difficult, a giant healthbar and on top of that the way the game suggests you to play is new for dark souls (more like the normal dragons in ER), but once you master the fight it becomes so damn fun

[@mrbiggielarge]

Placidusax is just dope asf 💀💀. He is living in the past present and future, he has 2 heads but had 3, lighting attacks that are fire. His lore is pretty cool too. Hes just fire

[@draxxilion5957]

Nah I find Midir easier than placidusax (due to a fuck ton of experience and SL1 runs), I preferred Placidusax for a while due to recency bias, but nowadays I prefer him because he's just cooler; wish he was as mobile as Midir throughout the entire fight, as it stands phase 1 Placidusax is worse than Midir but phase 2 is just a slight bit better imo.

[@агенто]

I've been killing him with Farron's sword so healthbar wasn't that long)

[@EverRusting]

Midir is much easier because Placidusax has many moves where it's much harder to tell when you'll take damage so correct rolling is harder and there aren't many safe approaches while Midir's attacks are always consistent with dodge timings and even if you can't dodge, you can run away from basically all of his attacks because the indication of an attack always gives you time to run away.

[@7katona7]

Placi is the quite opposite of "but once you master the fight it becomes so damn fun" This was surely a NG+7 Midir and we saw 2 weapons and 1 spell and the fight was 4mins. In ER NG+7 placi is a snooze fest for fun weapons and spells. though I like Placi nuke attack one of the coolest boss attack for sure.

[@gojiraguy200]

Finally, a perfect Midir fight that showcases what this boss should look like to fight. Beautifully done. Been trying to find a video actually showing off the perfect dance you enter with Midir for ages. Best dragon/beast boss by a mile, only one which feels just as much like a dance as the humanoid enemies.

[@sorensouthard927]

I just love the way he literally fumes from the mouth after doing that huge beam attack. Like even he's recoiling from it's power. Feeling like a boss is making a final last ditch effort against the player makes the fight feel like an an actual exchange.

[@alejandrotalavera6736]

I watch all your videos and I'm still blown away at how you have everything calculated down to the last centimeter. Really well done!

[@candanaci9258]

midir is fair, balanced and fun as all the bosses should be. best dragon fight of all time

[@Cocorex1]

Best fromsoft dragon

[@BT-ob7ve]

Sinh (ds2) is the best dragon fight to me

[@abrahamrangel2326]

@@BT-ob7ve i love sinh too, tho many might find annoying how he spends most of the time on the air because they dont know how to make him fight on ground level. Lets hope elden ring dlc gives us a dragon as good as midir, sinh and kalameet because it seems like a trend for fromsoftware to make all the dragons in the base game of all souls games disappointing at the cost of a memorable dragon in the dlc

[@ivanchaki372]

Best dragon fight in gaming has to be Fatalis from MHW Iceborne

[@BT-ob7ve]

@@abrahamrangel2326 yes you have good points, but I think they are overshadowed by objectively nice features. A) it makes sense that a dragon would fly most of the time (the 2 dragons from ds 1 and 3 have been recently crippled by the player, that is why it also makes sense that Midir and Khalameet use a lot of "regular" attacks) B) Sinh combines a standard MH dragon fight, with the use of elements (like quelaag w lava) to create poisonous parts of the arena that restric the players' movements. That alone is great. C) his hitboxes are slightly better than Midir and Khalameet's ones, but that is my impression (I did a no dmg of the 3 dragons, so it s not that I don't have any experience about their hitboxes). D) they should have added a cooler music for the fight, but that is what happens in ds 2 unfortunately, with some exceptions. Never fought Placidusax though, I am currently in Leyndell in ER.

[@draakoss1492]

Midir is just on another level. Perfect way of moving synchronized with one of the best Osts in the series. Perfection.

[@Beyond_Immortal]

my favorite thing about Midir is how angry he is storming around the arena. It really feels like you're fighting a pissed off dragon.

[@skinless5136]

His music is also really creepy at some parts, mainly the opening tbh

[@MetalNick]

Booooo

[@shadysorkin9214]

@@Beyond_Immortal He's blind so it sorta makes sense he flails around.

[@hermitoni]

@@shadysorkin9214 he has really tiny eyes

[@VioletVaniaComposer]

Well, it was fun while it lasted. CURSE YOU BAAAAAYLE

[@Sahholt]

Even after the release of the Elden Ring DLC, it is still the best dragon

[@AtomicZamurai]

NO

[@BeastBoy557]

Bayle?

[@Hamid-hh8ir]

​@@AtomicZamurai elden ring fanboy spotted... Bayle has nothing more interesting than midir...not better ost or attacks..he literally screams and lightning gets sommuned out of no where..be flies to the skies and poops fire ?like what is that?stop defending that shitty game

[@Andrew11017]

@@Hamid-hh8irI love DS3 more than Elden ring but Midir has like 4 moves lol. If you fight him where you are not doing a lot of damage it can be really repetitive like on sl1

[@alexclaudiu3854]

@@Andrew11017 Are we really comparing a game from 2017 with one from 2022? Come on guys, both had their ups and downs, but can't we all just agree that they both are good games in their own way?

[@PierceArner]

Midir's head being overtly reminiscent of the Xenomorph Queen from _Aliens_ as well as the clear _Shin Godzilla_ homage at 1:41 is why he'll always be the best. I love your fights because they always show off the beauty and design of the bosses like they're a showcase of them in their entirety. This one is exceptionally well done in that regard!

[@dirt_dert_durt]

I genuinely think you're just seeing things that aren't there

[@FromsoftgoatKaj]

@@dirt_dert_durt Look up shin godzilla atomic breath scene.

[@PierceArner]

@@dirt_dert_durt Well, I'll gladly present the evidence for you, then! (I've been researching the design evolution of Japanese adaptations of Western Fantasy for the last several years, so hopefully the following tl;dr makes for an interesting distillation of these two elements). The story in _Aliens_ is primarily about Ripley vs. the Queen, because they're both maternally protecting children against the other (James Cameron adapted his script for a different film called "Mother" to make _Aliens_ ). Even the original _Alien_ is about a lifeform that literally is born from the death of the human that darkness is implanted into and turns them into more of those monsters. That theme is why _Alien³_ has the Queen egg planted in Ripley's chest, and that whole film refers to the Xenomorph as "The Dragon" as well as why _Alien Resurrection_ focuses more on Ripley's horrible hybridization, in the same way that Miyazaki does with the relationships between Humans fusing themselves with or using Dragons throughout the _Souls_ series. The Caryll Rune "Beast's Embrace" in _Bloodborne_ is a depiction of a Facehugger, and the unused boss, "Great One Beast" utilizes the multiple teeth rows that Miyazaki started using with the Dragon God in _Demon's Souls_ along with Wolf features. That lupine element draws from the "Beast of Darkness" from _BERSERK_ like the "Watchdog of the Old Lords" boss as that's a central visual design theme for that inner darkness. Those fantasy-centric links to Dragons & Wolves are what we still see in the designs of the Ancient Dragons & Wolves of Radagon in _Elden Ring_ while the themes about parasitism and absorbing darkness within yourself that typically builds off of the _Alien_ series visual design are still present throughout (like the Albinaurics being artificial humans having white blood like the Synthetics). Suffice to say, those influences are VERY consistently utilized by Miyazaki throughout his games, but he's not alone as when _Aliens_ came out in 1986 it massively influenced the Japanese gaming industry with countless games having a Giger-like boss near the end as a final threat or secret boss, which is still used all over. It's that same darkness portrayed on a cosmic level, which is why _Bloodborne_ marries that symbolism to Lovecraftian elements. The underlying theme of absorbing darkness & pain into oneself causing a monstrous corruption that Miyazaki focuses on is why Midir matches the core theme of _Shin Godzilla._ In the scene that I mentioned this fight references at 1:41, the film's background music is a lament titled, "Who Will Know" which plays during the massive destruction of Tokyo. The lyrics convey the emotional darkness & existential pain that Godzilla experiences in his seemingly immortal existence, and why that is what escapes in the destruction of him just fighting to live. That theme was linked to the core of Japanese depiction of national suffering with Godzilla is now iconic. That matches to what Miyazaki is portraying with Midir and given that _Shin Godzilla_ was a critically acclaimed film in July 2016 when it released in Japan, and the "The Ringed City" DLC came out in March 2017, that's nearly impossible to overlook as directly tying those themes together, and being maintained with the Dragonlord in _Elden Ring_ with the attack called "Placidusax 's Ruin" following those same motions. So, those factors are why the fusion of the themes with the Xenomorph Queen from _Aliens_ and breath attack from _Shin Godzilla_ are central to the depiction of Darkeater Midir. The head design with hidden eyes and a huge crest is overtly to the silhouette of the Xenomorph Queen, especially with the spine-like protrusions. The conveyance of that inner pain being translated through the attack motions of Shin Godzilla, especially as that final attack is the one Godzilla makes in the film before being exhausted and falling to rest is how to translate those themes without the use of words. Midir was a descent of the Ancient Dragons tasked by the gods to eternal suffering as he's consuming and fighting back the darkness in exactly that type of inhuman pain that is a reflection of all the themes that Miyazaki's games are about, and how he's continued using and evolving those design motifs in his work. It's easy to see things that aren't there because just similarity of patterns doesn't mean that they are linked, as correlation ≠ causation. That's why I hope you'll appreciate that I wanted to emphasize that there is a veritable mountain of evidence that those references are things Miyazaki has used before & since, and my observation here was more than just speculative guesswork.

[@TheSaladin777]

@@dirt_dert_durt you have a tiny frame of reference to draw from

[@t0q14s9]

I might just have misread that but In case I understood correctly that you called midir female im pretty sure the girl behind the door In the ringed city Who has A ton of dialogue that you cant listen To because of the ugly bastards that walk up the stairs called midir him

[@adamfowler350]

The way Midir is introduced earlier in the dlc was brilliant to me. He's already a frightening danger to dodge and avoid, then you think you kill him on the bridge, only to find it sets up the real fight deep below.

[@TechNinjaSigma]

Still remember the first time I beat Midir; Midir is Legend!

[@krishnansubramoni7801]

Firstly, using the Ringed Spear weapon art to dodge and then attack immediately was just beautiful 👌. Also, unless I'm mistaken, you are attempting a Radagon cosplay here. I need to fight the Elden Ring dragons again to be sure, but Midir is definitely one of the best bosses in Dark Souls 3 and is certainly worthy of his title as a true Everlasting Dragon whose race was wiped out by 3 of the 4 original Lords of Fire. Midir is one of the very few things in the Souls universe who has retained most of its glory whereas most other things and people - including the original Lords, have degraded or become just a shadow of their former glory.

[@Acusumano25]

ongbal was rocking the radagon drip years back when he no hit the lady friede bossfight hahaha

[@TheJonkler1]

@@Acusumano25 Bro predicted Radagon's existance

[@Acusumano25]

@@TheJonkler1 kinda makes me wonder if Ongbal is a Fromsoftware insider..... maybe even Miyazaki himself haha

[@thetastyfish]

@@Acusumano25 Miyazaki has actually gone on record to say that he sucks at the game lmao

[@Acusumano25]

@@thetastyfish and Bruce Wayne probably says he couldn't kick anyone's ass 🤔

[@jordanbennett421]

THANK YOU, seriously how do you continue to be one of the realest people in the community it's unreal. Best FromSoft dragon without question, this is simply fact, great content as always.

[@asterisk4424]

Midir and Gael will forever be 2 of Fromsofts masterpieces. Genuinely perfect bosses.

[@shagarumedic]

Anyone else ADORE Midir’s phase 2 theme? Like it goes so fucking hard, 100% the best soulsborne soundtrack ever made

[@Herobrine525]

Ludwig, the Holy Blade tho

[@elien902]

I like the violin at the beginning of his theme. It’s chilling.

[@vicocloutier9607]

Midir phase 2 theme is my favorite ost in all souls, that goes way too hard !

[@34bully]

It gives me chills whenever I listen to it

[@joeharm8141]

Abyss Watchers music

[@TheManofThings777]

To be fair, Midir is one of the best bosses in any game of all time IMO. Edit: Guys, I said "one of" the best, not THE best lol

[@pc-9826]

That's why he's the GOAT! THE GOAT!

[@TheManofThings777]

@@pc-9826 Darkeater GOATdir

[@freddogrosso9835]

Yep.

[@salemservant]

nah, Gael and Raime are the best

[@AlsoYou]

bro doesnt know about isshin the sword saint or Hourah loux warrior/morgott LOL

[@AlastorAltruistGaming]

This fight is just awesome. Yeah, Placidusax & Bayle exist, but Midir’s just perfect & overall less annoying than the former 2 combined!

[@godfather140]

Cuuursse youuu bayyyle , probably midir right now.

[@are3287]

Midir's still way better tbh, and Bayle loses out on Placi too

[@godfather140]

@@are3287 They both looked cool. Midir was great for a DS3 boss, but if you fought him now, he is just too simple-fire, melee, and runaway. The Placi fight is just boring, chipping at his tail for 10 minutes, but gameplay-wise, Bayle is far more mechanically engaging and complex. And with Igon, it's not even close.

[@spacewalker806]

@@are3287 you are just wrong

[@ratman4910]

@@godfather140 Placidusax moveset was unique in that you had to pay attention to his head and position accordingly. If they added back part cutting his fight would've been 100x better, imagine cutting off his remaining heads. Even better turn his head into a ballista weapon and now you have a fucking laser cannon.

[@godfather140]

@@ratman4910 I mean, that would have been cool, sure, but they didn't do that. The music and the spectacle of the fight were all phenomenal, but it still doesn't change that his fight is just chipping his tail, then running away when he kicks you out.and there is nothing you can do about it ,you Just go out of the hitbox with a sprint for 5 sec, then come back and resume the chipping. When he turns around, you just circle him and go back to your tail chipping like nothing happened. Phase 2 is more of the same, you will just have to dodge until he is done with his teleportation and settles down for you to find his tail. There is also baiting him to the end of the arena in his last landing so you can get behind him and avoid his bs laser beam. If you count that, Bayle on the other hand is more dynamic. You face him head-on with more immersive, varied move sets with different dodges and timings to figure out, and super optimal and satisfying punishes before, during, and after his attacks. I fought both at RL1 with an unupgraded grafted sword, and Placidusax made the 18-minute grind as insufferable as he could ,what a terrible boss.

[@foxmind2490]

These videos have transcended gameplay and have become beautiful performances. I absolutely love them.

[@nigrum_angelum6655]

I agree, making the head takes "double damage", instead of every other body parts taking "half damage" really changes the dynamic and how players perceive the fight. The only thing missing is the ability to cut off its tail, and gets rewarded for it.

[@elien902]

The way you use the weapon skill to dodge or close in distance is just amazing. Also as always you try to make it theatrical by letting the boss do his whole moveset. Amazing as always.

[@elijahkeay3906]

No other game has nailed a giant fight like this so thoroughly for me. You face him head on the whole time. No chipping at the ankles

[@paulblyatmallcop4914]

This is hands down the best showcase of this fight on KZbin. You fight Midir the correct way and give him a chance to show off his incredible move set.

[@neamraven]

Midir is unmatched.

[@henrysteven137]

Midir's laser is too cool, such an amazing fight. nice work as always

[@kratinhos]

BAAAAAYLEE!!!!!!!! OOH VILE BAYLE!!!!! TERROOOOOORRR ENCARNATED!!!!!!!!!!!

[@seankalifut9948]

The translation is hilarious.

[@ChiraqGoblin]

@@seankalifut9948😂😂😂

[@abdelrahman788]

I love baaaaAAAyle but no one can beat my boy midir 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[@mogullll]

back after bayle to say yes, still the best dragon fight

[@fr4ctal272]

Whenever I enter the Ringed City DLC, I am always so hyped to get to Midir His OST, his moves, him spreading his wings whenever you enter the cave and when he enters second phase, his second phase laser attack, everything is just perfect

[@tom2571]

The startup when he unfurls his wings and roars always gives me goosebumps

[@MightyGachiman]

The end where he seemingly gathers all of his remaining power for one last beam attack. After he's spent he just lays down in defeat as you execute him... perfect cinematography through gameplay.

[@NewHerseyAccent]

Curse you, Bayle!

[@panic_diver]

Midir had the crown, but I think Bayle takes it now by a hair. This doesn't mean Midir is an easier fight now. Bayle's attacks are flashier, but Midir is still just as tough of a fight. That said, the whole mountain trek while being bombarded with lightning, fighting dragons along the way, Igon's epic dialogues, Bayle's design-missing all but one limb, one of Placidusax's heads on the neck-it's just incredible. Then the fight itself, a mechanically excellent boss fight. Chef's kiss. I am truly glad Miyazaki and Fromsoft exist. They outdid themselves. Nothing lasts forever, so enjoy these masterpieces as long as this team, led by Miyazaki, is still here.

[@GoodKevin111]

You know it's a hard boss when it takes Ongbal 4 minutes to kill him.

[@mwgmlg5600]

Can't believe how beautiful Midir's laser attack was. Never had them before and it's absolutely gorgeous

[@chuongvulenguyen290]

Don’t worry Midir, your OST is the thing that Bayle can’t even compare to

[@VError]

3:14 Bro just cracked Midir's neck💀💀

[@ioritenshi]

Teacher, you may change this title now after Bayle, The Dread.

[@faustlican5566]

I think it's cute that Midir gets tired after that crazy laser attack. He really put his all into it.

[@EverRusting]

I have discovered Midir always starts with that rampage move and if you do nothing after dropping to the area, he gets very close to you without damaging you so I'd just wait for him at the start of every attempt.

[@Big_Chico]

This has to be the most beautifully executed execution of darkeater midir I’ve ever seen.

[@michaelmoser7497]

I agree, Midir is still the best dragon boss in FromSoft history

[@griffiththechad9483]

YES! For the amount of times I’ve been pounded into ash by Midir there wasn’t a single time I wasn’t having fun. The music, the arena, the moveset, and just the story behind Midir made this battle a 10/10 in my eyes.

[@AndyMacster]

And then Bayle happened, and we all stood in awe.

[@atriar5675]

The background music is wonderful, the move set is fluid and easy to understand, the special effects are still looking cool, it was an excellent job by FromSoftware overall. Though, i feel that Elden Ring did manage to show me dragon fights i have felt more threatened compared to my fight against Midir. :)

[@AllisterAkaiki]

"CURSE YOU, BAYLE!" -Midir fans

[@are3287]

Bayle doesnt hold a candle to Midir but ok

[@luiscapati6279]

Midir's laser at the end is what I was waiting for and it was right on time to be his last move. Satisfying as always, Ongbal!

[@qudratzazai]

Bayle took that title finally (in my opinion at least)

[@DreamerGalaxius]

Bayle would like to know your location⚡🐲🔥

[@natalironaldo]

He definitely is. His roar, soundtrack and 1-shot laser still haunt me to this day.

[@Rexis102]

Midir is rhythmic, he’s balanced, he’s ferocious, he’s unique, he is the best dragon From ever produced. A lot of Dragons in Elden Ring use him as a baseline, but none of them quite nail what made Midir amazing. The Ancient Dragons were something new but they paled in comparison to all of the inherent designs and mechanics of Midir’s fight. They became a nuisance while Midir remains the best.

[@DecartesGreatStar]

Midir actually does feel like an abyssal consuming dragon, it was always going to be a touch act to follow in elden ring

[@lithosagym]

Very true, Midir is legendary, as well as your work

[@alexstaro]

the most impressive thing in these vids is the spacing, and its especially noticeable in this fight

[@publiovirgilio2238]

I like that you tried (and achieved) to show all of his attacks and let him do the final laser party

[@AnotherComputer]

Midir was up there but was overturned by Placidusax, or Fortissax even. Those are truly unique dragons with unique movesets to them, half of Midir's attacks are shared with dragons you fight in the open world in Elden Ring. Fire breath, claw smash, stomp, flying and shooting fire to the side, chomp etc. It was awesome for 2016, but in 2022 the dragon fights have evolved in the series. Seeing dragons wielding red lightning as a weapon is unmatched.

[@structuredchaos6784]

Dragons in ER: "Watch out, I'm attacking!" Midir: "Nothing personal kid"

[@aidenmclaughlin1076]

Fucking love Midir dude. To this day my greatest Dark Souls achievement has got to be my first try SL1 Midir!

[@coholmes-k3c]

How about now @ONGBAL?

[@YureiOni]

I love watching this guy play. The craft and cleanliness of his runs are amazing.

[@nameless4635]

Bayle is like the improved version of this, he also has more movesets compared to Midir. Midir is just more predictable. The one who still likes Midir is either sufferring from nostalgia bias or didnt fight Bayle solo. They litterally fights the same way, which is head bonking.

[@callumbaillie58]

I just prefer Midirs lore, music and personality he seems more animalistic and present and I like that. Also he’s my comfort boss so yeah biased.

[@jhayz3911]

Overall I enjoy Bayle more, but I'm a sucker for the somber melancholy that Midir's fight has. They are 2 sides of the same coin, both epic battles against a powerful dragon. Bayle being the Intense spectacle of a fight against a being of pure dread and hatred, while with Midir it is a fight to finally put a valiant but corrupted dragon to rest for his own sake. Also I think Igon elevates the fight with Bayle and is the reason I prefer it to overall compared to Midir, even if I think I like Midir's movements and some of his moves more. Bayle also has the advantage of being a newer designed fight from a much newer game since they are nearly 8 years apart. Regardless, both of them (and Kalameet and Sinh) are how dragon fights should be done.

[@Akd6869]

Pretty sure you are the one who didnt fight solo if you think bayle is better. Bayle is only better visually, midir is better mechanically. Bayle has a worse camera, a smaller arena, his scream attack is trash and doesnt have as good a flow as midirs fight does. Just cause a fight looks more cinematic doesnt make it better.

[@RemnantofTheTom]

​@@Akd6869i always fight Bayle solo, and I find him mechanically superior than Midir

[@WinterFlare]

Bayle’s regular attacks and combos are better. But some of his attacks are way too annoying because of how buggy his fight is (fire breath deflection). But they do not fight the same at all. Bayle’s fight is wrathful, like he’s extremely angry. Hell, he literally stumbles on the tail swipe forgetting that he is missing his leg. Midir feels like an animal clawing to survive, the way he thrashes around everywhere. Moveset is mixed. I’d say Bayle’s moveset is more complex but he suffers from his fire breath attacks lacking consistency due to projectile deflection. Midir is a lot more predictable, yes, but at least it’s consistent. Consistency is very important in these games. Visuals I’d say are tied. They just have different themes. Midir is dark and gloomy whereas Bayle is like rage with all the red everywhere. Difficulty, probably Midir. You can make overpowered builds in Elden Ring. There is no way you are ever getting strong enough to kill Midir in just a couple hits. With Bayle, it’s actually not that hard. Although I did fight both of them with low damage. So in that case, I would say Bayle is harder. But your average isn’t psychotic enough to do low damage runs.

[@KraigsDC5]

Gorgeous fight, love how clean it looks with no hud. Still my favorite fromsoft dragon of all time. Lore, design, music, it’s just incredible. I don’t think I’ll ever fight him solo again, now I prefer the chaos of random rng of a full co op raid to keep me guessing

[@KyngD469]

Bayle is cinematic. Midir is engaging. Midir sweeps. Bayle just makes you feel like youre in a movie. One trick pony. Dodging Midir’s carnivorous swipes is far more satisfying than waiting for Bayle’s 50th nuclear explosion to go off.

[@-Azure.EXE-]

i feel like thats all Elden Ring fans like about Bayle. Their eyes glazing over as the boss enters stage two and you have 50 suns injected into you retina. That and Igon.

[@demiaeclipse5185]

I pretty much agree, fighting Midir feels like fighting a wild injured animal desperate to win, it's a lot more engaging.

[@AtomicZamurai]

@@-Azure.EXE- same was about midr. He was eye candy at the time, not anymore BAYLE AND IGON> mid-ir

[@-Azure.EXE-]

@@AtomicZamurai i agree. Bayle is more eye candy than Midir. 50 suns into the eye. His design is pretty cool. we ride up to the top past dozens of dragons Bayle has killed and we reach his broken body. Igon is cool. Bayles theme is a banger. as an actual boss fight that you have to engage in, his is shockingly bad. horrible telegraphing. His camera abuse is obnoxious. everything he does covers 90% of your screen with effects. people like the things surrounding bayle. even you make it a point. 'BAYLE AND IGON'. it sucks fighting Bayle. Midir is a boss with infinitely better construction in terms of move set, telegraphing, hit boxs. He doesnt need 50 suns and a great npc to not suck balls.

[@AtomicZamurai]

@@-Azure.EXE- When people say bayle and igon it was just to show how good fromsoft got to do dragon fights. Bayle alone is better because igon gives no value at all for the combact. Maybe you were under a cave but Midir camera is so awful that it literally unlocks the character randomly. Its like we wwent back to ds1 all over again. The camera is so bad people literally fight him unlocked because he's just too big. Midir is also more frustrating because you either run away to avoid his fire breath or run towards him to attack and i had the same problem with elden beast. While bayle will always close up to you and never runs away too long like midr. Plus bayle healthpool is more manageable in a game like elden ring while midir takes too much time to reduce his health bar. Bayle with or without igon is better because the frustration factor is less even tho all the things happening int the fight can be overwhelming visually and still be cool. Bayle is better and its not even close

[@tomskeleton]

The main thing putting midir over placidusax in my eyes is that he puts his whole fucking body into every attack and placidusax just kinda sits like a rock for most moves.

[@HesitateandyouLose]

*The* Dragon bossfight.

[@mikeheiser3728]

You can usually tell in the first ten to twenty seconds of the fight after you drop whether your host will be able to fight him properly lol

[@alfonsocornejo844]

CUUUUUUUUUURSE YOUUUU, MIDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR !!!

[@pscrosta]

In another universe, you are a world renowned choreographer; the way you know the steps and execute them perfectly

[@rudolphvonstroheim3551]

Not only is he one of the best dragons done by fromsoft, Midir is one of the best dragon bosses ever, period. He tops even ones from specialized series like most MH 5th gen elder dragons, et cetera Just a masterwork in terms of design

[@Cilanad]

Fatalis from Iceborne was the best for me. Midir still the best from soft dragon boss.

[@Kirokill1]

@@Cilanad Fatalis was amazing

[@ghostpantshans5610]

Fatalis and Midir are both bosses and dragons peak of perfection you can get. (well I sure died to them enough times to suffer hahaha )

[@sakuranohana1014]

Safi'jiiva and midir have some similarities, laser breath and massive size.

[@irvancrocs1753]

@@Cilanad Other than Fatalis, i also love Alatreon fight especially soloing him, if only they don't cripple his fight with that elemental check then playing with other people would be much more fun, responding to SOS Alatreon is always like playing dice..

[@istolethispfpfromreddit]

My boy Midir could slaughter the entire dragon race in Elden ring, even with his weakness to lightning

[@KyloB]

As someone who played Monster Hunter for about 8 or 9 years at the time, i didnt find Midir to be very difficult, but your spacing and timing in this video is an absolute masterclass.

[@BastardMan]

seconding this, Monster Hunter exp really does make this boss much easier.

[@Amaryryry]

The opening roar with the music will never not make me smile. God I love this boss so much.

[@Shairon97]

Dark Souls 3 will always be one of my favorites because of battles like Midir, Friede, The Nameless King, Soul Of Cinder... This video just reminds me of that Awesome battle, Clean af ! 👌🏻

[@CringeGamingOG]

Hands down my favorite aesthetically and mechanically. I still go back and fight him even after ng+7.

[@keithedwards499]

Have you guys heard about Bayle yet? 👀

[@diogoepronto]

Yes, and Midir is still better.

[@keithedwards499]

@@diogoepronto I prefer Bayle and Placedeux ngl

[@AtomicZamurai]

@@diogoepronto nah bayle is better stop the nostaligia

[@mitch5944]

@diogoepronto midir is awesome and I haven't fought bayle yet but at the very least visually bayles better lol

[@AtomicZamurai]

@@mitch5944 exactly, bayle is pure cinema and fromsoft has never been this good before and mechanically bayle is more fun because he doesn't have massive health and runs away

[@ast4r4th165]

I had no idea you could do 3 attacks with the spears weapon art, I thought it was only 2.

[@jin12345678]

I always thought the dragon fights in Elden Ring were kind of annoying, Placidusax was the only one I enjoyed. Then I played DS3 and realized it was Elden Ring that made dragon fights really annoying. Trying to stay in front of dragon to get meaty hits to the head in clearly telegraphed openings = fun. Blindly rolling around feet and tail to sneak hits in while trying to dodge annoying huge AOE fire breath and stomps = not as fun. They brought it back with Bayle in shadow of the erdtree, absolute banger fight, but they also added like 10 annoying ass ghostflame dragons and that trash ass Senessax fight.

[@egil9859]

Yep. A lot of people hate the boss, then you learn they try to attack the legs and tail. Midir is designed fully around hitting the head and a really well designed fight.

[@AlastorAltruistGaming]

And yet, I heard arguments before saying NEVER to lock onto the head… which I did anyway because the head STILL takes the most damage.

[@lafisk9906]

He is the best and will always be the best. The background music, the story, the balance of the fight, everything makes this fight the greatest dragon fight every

[@LucidFlameX]

Much as I love Placidusax and his red lightning, especially his nuke bolt, Midir just does it for me. Probably nostalgia with how many times I fought the Darkeater, but eh. Amazing dragon fight.

[@grgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgr]

Your are the final boss, bro. Midir seemed so frustrated because he just couldn't get you.

[@abdulmodibbo6319]

MIDIR not only the best dragon but the best boss I ever defeated in my 20+ years gaming career. The feeling for beating this boss after countless tries was unmatched. DS3 is my most played PS4 game of 2022.

[@isn0t42]

I love how you thought you killed him and started posing, and Midir like: MADA DA!

[@novasZK]

Midir is sick, but seeing/fighting Placidusax for the first time was one of my best Elden Ring/gaming moments ever. He's easily my favourite ER fight and the best Dragon fight imo

[@theillustriouscosmowitch617]

Absolutely stunning boss fight. Easily my favourite from the game

[@ThisLiteralFP]

And then Bayle arrived.

[@aecalietvenali]

literally beat Bayle on the second try...took over 30 + attempts with Midir...Bayle is a joke

[@-_-ligma]

@@aecalietvenalidifficulty≠better

[@aoao3340]

@@-_-ligma Midir is still better, imho)

[@BigBilly2009]

Man, DS3 bosses are something else - visually, acoustically, and thematically.

[@Hates]

Love love love how you baited the final Lazer. Gonna steal that tech from ya. Tysm for the vid.

[@NuwandaSM]

BAAAAAYLEEEEEEEE!!!

[@lanceflare]

It baffles me how From could fuck up the dragon fights in ER that much when they literally had the perfect formula down in DS3 already...

[@drlemon7729]

Man look at those crisp animations everything is so readable and clean. Takes me back to when I spent almost a whole night fighting him. Back when fromsoft didn't need coked up enemies sliding enemies that jump you at the fog wall and bullshit 20 second long combos with tiny punish windows and AoE spam to make their games challenging

[@Man-is2ou]

Skill issue

[@drlemon7729]

@@Man-is2ou I wish it was a skill issue. At least then skill would be involved. Genichiro didn't need this bullshit to be a true skill check. And issihin didn't need to rely on bullshit to be one of the hardest and most awesome bosses ever made

[@panic_diver]

@@drlemon7729 There is no bs, all attacks are avoidable and its coming from a guy who spent like 1+ hr a few days ago to defeat bayle for the first time, but after fighting him for so many times everything slowed down and i learned how to avoid all his attacks. It was a matter of execution after that. Its mechanically a really great fight and my fav fromsoft dragon. Learn to fight him and you will change your tune, its an awesome boss and you can do no damage runs consistently, obviously after paying your dues and learning how to fight him.

[@deaddroth666]

@@Man-is2ou Lol ER casuals talking about skill, go summon your mimic and attack your MMO bosses from behind I've almost got 1,800Hours in ER and it's nowhere near any of the souls games quality, especially in the bosses department

[@Man-is2ou]

@@deaddroth666 skill issue

[@OD91MJ]

Gael or Midir still my favorite fights in all souls games. Soundtracks are the best as well.

[@Oneyeo]

The fact that this guy exists scares me in online mode XD

[@Akd6869]

After bayle, midir remains the greatest

[@RaijinDestroyer]

I’ll always have a soft place for Fortissax deep down my heart

[@AJIVENINJA]

CURSE YOU, BAYLE

[@WA-ow1fr]

damn, can’t express how much I love this game