MIG Killers - Mission 2 - DCS F-4 Phantom Campaign Preview

[@ReflectedSimulations]

I really don't understand people who comment "is this MP compatible" under just about anything. Even if it wasn't impossible - which it is - What exactly do you have in mind? Do you have a friend who will sit in your backseat and who is completely familiar with the Topgun lessons and syllabus, and will coach you professionally through the exercise? Do you have a friend who will fly the F-86, and he's also a qualified instructor, flying it exactly the way the lesson requires? Or you just want a 1v1 with friends, but that's not a training campaign, that's a mission that takes 1 minute to set up. I guess it could be fun to practice with friends AFTER you completed the lesson in the campaign, but you don't need me for that.

[@WishIknewwhatthiswas]

You nailed the fringe usage case on the head. I have used Zone 5 in the exact same way, but the amount of things you have to hands off for as the RIO to stop from breaking the mission is exceedingly high. (Immersion will be broken) This is something I only found to be possible through a ton of experimentation. This is the equivalent of turning on co-op code that is buried in a game that doesn't ship with it (Halo Infinite). It could be done, but even if you connect, doing any one of 1000 things will kill it. (Similar to speed running a game, memorizing bugs and exploits to still get to completion via unintended means.) Thank you for your amazing SP campaign contributions they have allowed me to bring the joy of flight to many friends. Sidenote: is that Casmo on Indian Springs tower?

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@WishIknewwhatthiswas thanks! Nah, Casmo is one of the instructors. It’s Tricker sitting in the tower waiting to spill his coffee :D

[@ChuckOwl]

I believe people who want a multiplayer-compatible mission find the concept of a "coop" campaign between pilot and RIO pretty appealing (which it is!). But like you said, I think it's very hard (if not impossible) to implement. For this type of campaign, I don't really see the point of having a mutiplayer-compatible version. However, I do see a huge potential for coop versions of missions that are more "hands free" by design.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@ChuckOwl I completely understand there is a demand for those kind of campaigns, but as I said in many of my videos, a coop campaign would have to be built as such from the start. It's 2 completely different roads a mission builder can take, and there is no jumping between the two once the mission is built. I do not wish to set foot on that road, as the tools at my disposal (triggers, scripts) are much more limited than in single player, and I couldn't create an experience that's anywhere as immersive as my SP content. This being said, the demand is there, so anyone who feels like it is more than welcome to make such a campaign, I'm sure it will be fun.

[@mikeck4609]

Because some people can’t understand why anyone would play single player. Even some content creators like Enigma advocate for DCS to go directions that no one who plays single player wants: in an effort to make shooting stuff more fun (in one case, arguing that ED should stop making high fidelity modules and instead churn our low fi Cold War platforms like “IL-2 Cold War” or something. They miss the point of DCS for many of us: it’s not to shoot stuff down, it’s to experience the aircraft and all of its systems. The best way to do that is in realistic campaigns. But if you are someone who just wants IL-2 with modern jets, then you are always pining for multiplayer and lamenting anything that isn’t

[@Ravasssz]

What impresses me the most is the realism of the radio communication. This campaign almost sounds like a real Red Flag military audio recording. Up until now, a lot of DCS campaigns were 10/10 when it came to story, gameplay mechanics, and creativity, but the voice acting always felt a bit far from being believable and realistic. People sounded like they were reading something while sitting next to their computer in a calm environment. But this... HOLY HELL! You absolutely nailed it out of the park with this one! This is going to be a truly impressive campaign, and I bet it's gonna be one of your most popular due to the F-4's popularity.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@Ravasssz thank you! I had the honor of working with amazing voice actors

[@ml1754]

True dat...the gyro and compass swing checks brought tears...when the heck is it releasing DCS!

[@grizzly4736]

Can NOT wait for this campaign to drop! I played your Covey 41 F-4 mission and man was I impressed with the attention to detail. The EOR checks before flight took me back to my days as an F-16 crew chief. All of us barracks airmen that were aircraft maintainers had to rotate through different 3 month duties on base, EOR, sand barn, or wash rack. Sand barn was hot and miserable, but EOR was the best extra duty. Thanks for adding that to your missions.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@grizzly4736 thanks! It’s these little procedural things that add up and make for a realistic and immersive experience in my opinion, so I’m doing my best to research and implement them

[@gecko101-w1h]

oh man...as always...if it comes to authentic flying...you´re one of the best!...bought most of your campaigns...and...i love em all!!!...thxs 4 your passion you´re putting into your work...cu up there in the sky!

[@ReflectedSimulations]

Thanks for the support!

[@Boots3862]

Well, you've done it again. You've read my mind. I have just recently been thinking about the need to implement arming/disarming areas in most of our hops, and BOOM here you are with it. This continues to look fabulous, and I can't wait to get my hands on it. Thanks!

[@AFlockofTacos]

This is exactly what I have wanted always wanted. Some real instruction. These videos are a great supplement. Thanks!

[@josefwitt9772]

Attention to detail, gotta love it! Looks like a great way to learn.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

Thanks, it will teach you a lot, for sure

[@DanBlake3rd]

That was awesome! I thought that it was really easy to follow the coms and instructions. Really looking forward to the campaign.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

Thanks! Yes, the flow will be pretty straightforward.

[@mvaldman2001]

You are a magician with these campaigns!! Awesome 👍🏽

[@ReflectedSimulations]

Thanks!

[@CaptJack747]

Thanks Reflected, looking forward to the release.

[@riman8493]

Man, I absolutely love this stuff! Just pure gold! Thank you so much for making it (the campaign and the video) and I can't wait to get it and fly it myself! Speed and Angels remains my favourite campaign to date and I predict this will keep it company at the top spot =). Looks to be absolutely rocking!

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@riman8493 thanks, hopefully it will be a good sequel to that one syllabus wise

[@riman8493]

@@ReflectedSimulations I'm sure it will, Greg! =) It's funny, the Tomcat and the Phantom are probably my favourite planes and they have been put in-game by arguably the best team in the ecosystem and have received arguably the best campaigns by my favourite campaign maker =). I'm not sure what my lucky star is, but I definitely thank it in this instance! =)

[@grievesy83]

I don't plan on purchasing the F-4, but dang... I love the attention to detail and realism in your campaigns, Reflected. I enjoy watching your mission videos as they genuinely bring back memories and emotions of my IRL military flying training from 20 years ago. You're a unique asset to the DCS community, and we love you for your aviation passion and what you bring to the table for the rest of us to enjoy.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@grievesy83 thanks for the kind words and the support!

[@Raven-sv4es]

Wow this looks awesome. I really like the way you've designed that mission.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@Raven-sv4es thanks!

[@TheSilmarallion]

This is so cool, well done on the hard work. Wish I had a rig to play this on...

[@TOMCATnbr]

Looking forward for this one (even if i still have to finish speed and angels first 😅)

[@awger90210]

So stoked for this campaign! ...and, yes, the AI has more than one screw loose ... drives me bonkers trying to make it do simple things consistently. I'm impressed that you've got it to cooperate as well as you have.

[@alpiinoo135]

Awesome design! Thanks for video

[@deividdi5779]

Hello Reflected, congratulations on your magnificent work. This is a perfect opportunity to fly f-4, you could say that I bought it for the f-14 t-shirt hehe. I have all of your tomcat campaigns and will start them this summer after mastering the naval procedures. A request to add subtitles at least in zone v and speed and angels, it is a pleasure and a privilege to listen to you fly with paco and bio thanks to you. Fly high fly safe. Tomcats forever!

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@deividdi5779 thanks! There are subtitles in all my campaigns though

[@cmdrpanorpa8631]

Awesome, can't want to learn and try some of this stuff out myself, and that's just this mission.

[@mateomadera9922]

Why only roll with rudder?

[@cmdrpanorpa8631]

The F4 rolls with a spoiler going up on one side and the aileron going down on the other, however at low speeds, the aileron causes more drag than the spoiler, effectively causing you to roll the other way but slowly, this effect is called adverse roll, using the rudder prevents this effect.

[@zanderlabuschagne2368]

This is very cool. I did not think I will watch the entire 54 minutes.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@zanderlabuschagne2368 thanks for watching!

[@GabryelHdPerformance]

Really nice stuff!

[@fightertales]

Would love to see a Navy FJ Fury scheme for the Sabre but that's just me being picky lol. This unironically is your best work yet. I can't wait to give it a shot when it comes out. Man I really need to get up to speed in the Phantom for this, it's a good motivator!

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@fightertales thanks! IRL Topgun had nothing, no assets, no planes, they used squadron jets and whatever they could find at the base. So following my fictional version of the story, it all being at Indian Springs, I thought they would be using USAF Sabres there.

[@fightertales]

@@ReflectedSimulations Makes sense to me!

[@leoperidot482]

Mig -21, the leading distributor of American Phantom II parts.

[@stevebarnett-f5o]

I think Phantom is beyond my DCS skills, but this is VERY tempting.

[@starfleethastanks]

I can't wait for this.

[@bernyssen]

Can't wait! :D

[@wash_out]

Heatblur, you watching? can we please have the custom G breathing as standard? Pretty please.

[@Crazy-Bear-Gamer-Channel]

Awesome!! 😱😱😱

[@pega-luke8053]

Love the Campaign! Sometimes it just closes and i have to do everything again but thats prob due to mods

[@wavehopper4183]

It looks great man, look forward to going back to Nellis.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

Thanks! It’s set in Indian Springs for a change :)

[@wavehopper4183]

@@ReflectedSimulations Oooo, fancy

[@ReflectedSimulations]

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[@aztec0112]

It is now sitting in my desktop, while I tip a cold one in the duty office with a pot of rank black acid coffee stinking up the whole place. Been a bit leery of geetting an honest to God "Reflected" campaign. But I could NOT pass this one up! Oh, gotta go...briefing starts in five...

[@bikeguy3034]

Just FYI - you would never arm up with another aircraft directly in front of you. We had an instance when after the groundie pulled the gun safety pin, the gun proceeded to empty the entire ammo supply across the airfield - pilot s*&t himself and nearly ejected lol. Generally you would angle-off 45 degrees across the field in a safe direction. Had the gun cooked off in this instance - your mate directly in front of you would be toast.. ;)

[@ReflectedSimulations]

I know, unfortunately this was the only way to make it happen in DCS. The AI's taxi routes are hard coded. They can't use EOR pads.

[@Ghost-pz3uy]

Fantastic, can't wait to fly it and get corrected by the instructors. What an effort did you in a single mission. Any suggestion for preparing for your campaign [videos, docs, books, manual], as your short videos about Startup/Taxi/TO/Landing and Rig/Aug?

[@Wikkus]

Looks amazing! Doubt I'll have time for any of it due to work commitments, but you never know! BTW, what was the inferno at the end of the ramp at mission end? Was it Cobra? :)

[@ReflectedSimulations]

oh I didn't even notice it. I don't know, I doubt it. Maybe a ground AI lost its way?

[@limeacid]

OMG! I need to make sandwiches and make tea!

[@obic123]

Master class in Mission Editing What's your VR Headset out of curiosity ?

[@ReflectedSimulations]

Thanks! I have a Quest2

[@tswims92]

To better represent and get around the hard coded landings of the AI, could you despawn and respawn the ai aircraft after the break? So they break like they are supposed to, despawn, then respawn on final and land. Or would that just be too complicated for what it’s worth?

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@tswims92 1) too complicated 2) final for the ai is 10-15 miles away and because you’re also landing, they’ll just keep aborting. So in short: not really worth it

[@tswims92]

@@ReflectedSimulations thanks for the explanation Reflected and that makes sense.

[@ArcFire_Fox]

I could use some advice, when turning on the burners for these tactics, should we use full afterburner or just 1st stage ?

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@ArcFire_Fox depends on your energy state. For the vertical you need full burners but sometimes for turning less is enough if you’re pulling out of a dive

[@RevsBlueChurch]

how will the pilot hands look in VR? hopefully not too weird, right?

[@ER1C-highalpha01]

And I thought the speed and angel campaign was hard DAMN

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@ER1C-highalpha01 what seems hard about this?

[@ER1C-highalpha01]

@@ReflectedSimulations First of all, don't change anything. I mean, learn to master something is just the way this campaign should be! I am currently watching the lag pursuit at 20:00; to pull a lag pursuit at 420 and dogfight by the outter circle then relax Gs to under 2gs then keep the target incide piper for 1.5sec is gonna be quite a challenge, I presume. Flying squirrel cage or 1v1 BFM in speed and angels is one thing, from what I have seen here, BFM with weapon launch envelop requirements is gonna be on a whole new level of learning curve(or maybe im spoiled with modern 9xs 120Cs and stuff lol) Still, I don't ask for easy mode on Darksoul so so far this is fantastic

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@ER1C-highalpha01 thanks! It sounds complex but the lessons are gradually built on one anotherand I’m sure you’ll get the hang of it

[@norman191000]

when I play this or other missions from the campaign my f4 seems to be a lot weaker and bleeding the speed, even if doing stuff very same as you in this video... I wonder what is the problem, constant stalls, buffeting and being unable to keep above 400kts in most of situations. The whole campaign is on burners all the time, so the fuel can go out before mission end's. Need to pinpoint the problem.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@norman191000 as I said the slats are welded in the missions but that shouldn’t cause such behavior. Other than that, the mission doesn’t / cannot change the flight model.

[@einweiesblattpapier2676]

How mutch does the dogfighting behavior and tactics of the slatless phantom differ to the one of the one equipped with slats?

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@einweiesblattpapier2676 without slats you gotta be more conscious of AoA that’s all. That will be lesson 1.

[@mgaphotography7736]

Just starting to watch it (so if answered later in the video all good) - the F-86, are you going to use a non USAF skin at release?

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@mgaphotography7736 no I made this generic skin specifically for the campaign. If Topgun had been set up at Indian Springs, an USAF Auxiliary base, it’s logical they would use some old F-86s there. The Navy didn’t have Sabres - apart from dronea but that’s coming later in mission 10.

[@joachimbrand2314]

I really hope this campaign will help me getting better in A2A since Im really bad in A2A in a analog jet...

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@joachimbrand2314 definitely, that’s the main purpose of it

[@hhubert1088]

Indian Springs tower sounds a lot like Tricker

[@ReflectedSimulations]

He does doesn’t he? I wonder why ;)

[@hhubert1088]

@@ReflectedSimulations I knew it ;)

[@Twelve.O.Clock-High]

Can you add same option like in Baltic’s gamblers campaign. That you map spacebar to your hotas?

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@Twelve.O.Clock-High I could, but I won’t. We can all start campaigning for an assignable spacebar at ED rather than work and maintenance heavy workarounds in the mission editor.

[@A2Moonclaw]

Who voices the tower controller? I swear I recognize his voice.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@A2Moonclaw it’s Tricker

[@A2Moonclaw]

@@ReflectedSimulations Oh!!!!!!!!!! Thanks! Cool you have lots of content creators as voice actors!

[@michaelyoungblood1332]

IDK man, that top gun 1 guy sounds pretty distractingly sexy.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@michaelyoungblood1332 he does doesn’t he? I bet he’s a great singer too :)

[@flywithusMSFS]

Is there a good place to learn jargon? Like what does things like "go button 5" even mean? :D

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@flywithusMSFS switch to channel 5 on the radio - but your RIO will do it for ya

[@flywithusMSFS]

@@ReflectedSimulations cheers! But regardless is there a recommended place to go and read a bit of jargon to better undetstand things like this?

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@flywithusMSFS not sure if there is a single place for that. Let me know if you find anything else, happy to help

[@simontaylor8774]

Any further update when it will be available - not in todays update 😞

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@simontaylor8774 no this was a hotfix update

[@limeacid]

JC on fence in checks say: gunsight 35 mils but then on 17:20 your's mils is 20. Why?

[@ReflectedSimulations]

I accidentally touched the wheel on my hotas? Dunno. Mils are smth I cannot set up using a trigger. I mean I can, but assumin it’s set to 0 by default. If the plYer has a hotas like me and it’s set to 35, the trigger would increase it to 70. Anyhow, it’s not that important becasue mils don’t affect a2a mode. It’s only a backup setting

[@drs02ful]

They will put the pauses every so often as in speed and angels.

[@ReflectedSimulations]

What pauses? And who is ‘they’? :)

[@wavehopper4183]

@@ReflectedSimulations You know.... them

[@thetristians]

You know, the MAN 😂

[@ReflectedSimulations]

@@wavehopper4183 ah, the same guys who keep stealing one sock, never the whole pair? :)

[@hhubert1088]

Any updates on the Kola campaign?

[@ReflectedSimulations]

Still waiting for several voice lines before we can complete the missions

[@eriklacey710]

is there a release date?

[@funkyschnitzel]

I really wish you'd fix the AI in these campaigns. They fly like crazy people. Completely unplayable! Jokes! 😂 Love all your campaigns, despite the occasional weaknesses of the DCS AI. I'll be buying and flying this one as soon as I can!

[@ReflectedSimulations]

Thank you, I hope you’ll like it

[@utley]

please tell me this will be an MP map as well??

[@ReflectedSimulations]

this is not a map it's a campaign :) And no, it's not possible to make these for MP - see my other videos where I explain why.

[@bazyli23]

aaaaa! when??

[@ReflectedSimulations]

Ask ED :)

[@tamasratkai1130]

Hmm. Traffic... F-100s? Hmmm