FWD vs AWD Race | MK8 Golf R vs Modified MK7 GTI [The Dream Crusher]

[@mightycarmods]

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[@danielgraham602]

Love the ending!!! I had a feeling something like this had to happen. Perfect way to wrap up a great mini series.

[@graemejohnson9025]

Can You Please, Stop Doing A VW BLOW JOB... they are Crap, They lied to the World.. This channel, has lost it's integrity... it is just a VW ADD,

[@dB_944]

Flashback to the S2000 dream! Cool!

[@FURNACE_YGO]

I wanna see you take a 2012 Polo GTI Super Turbo for a spin and compare

[@michaelblacktree]

That plot twist at the end made it all worth it. 👍

[@SecretSauceyjuice]

Having a professional driver who can whip consistent times and narrate well through a lap is a pretty cool card to have in your back pocket.

[@robinsontanner1234]

I actually thought to my self... wow this guy is absolutely impressive. Should prob take over someone on Top Gear.

[@KingTeamRacing]

Thank you!! So glad you liked it

[@Nebbia_affaraccimiei]

kinda hard to say it was consistent doing just 1 lap

[@SecretSauceyjuice]

@@KingTeamRacing Great job, man. Certainly added to the authenticity of the comparison. Hope we get another opportunity to see you on MCM sometime.

[@SecretSauceyjuice]

@@Nebbia_affaraccimiei I don't mean that these laps are consistent with anything, but that [as a driver in general] he is capable of more consistent laps and getting more out of each car than say Marty and Moog would have been. It makes it slightly more authentic even though this is just a lighthearted comparison.

[@the_millennial_hotrodder]

OGs knew that ending was coming lol. Luke was a good addition to the episode. Wouldn't be upset if he was a regular guest.

[@markdimilia559]

The second he started talking about not having dreams I knew they were up to this again lol. Honestly the moog warned us from the first minute. Love this channel

[@joshberry8262]

As the How Ridiculos blokes would say "How Good"

[@KingTeamRacing]

Stoked you liked my little appearnace!

[@joshberry8262]

@@KingTeamRacing loved It bro, you a king✌️ Edit: Didnt know you had a youtube, just Subbed 👍

[@TheRafinx]

@@KingTeamRacing You were sick man. Ask for more appearances.

[@paulwediting7175]

"The traction control is my right foot" should absolutely be a T-Shirt. Great video fellas

[@sombrero4316]

It's what I told people about cruise control when I drove an old golf.

[@capnskiddies]

For TVR owners

[@gregbuell1009]

For S Chassis lol

[@oliverherrick2189]

My Impreza never had traction control

[@robinsontanner1234]

@@oliverherrick2189 07 or older?

[@Henchman1977]

Man his commentary as he's doing his laps is great!

[@yosefmiller6403]

His driving is just as good

[@KingTeamRacing]

Thanks heaps!!! Stoked you dig it!!

[@brettleonard8602]

Nothing on Dick Johnson at Bathurst back in the day...

[@nickn7939]

yeah i couldn't do that, i'd be too busy concentrating, you can tell it's almost second nature for him.

[@dave2345]

Luke should come on the channel more often and test your cars, seems like a ripper bloke and good in front of a camera.

[@lucan7408]

Completely agree, commentary while driving was great

[@the_millennial_hotrodder]

Agreed!

[@tomish2]

Yea I agree, too bad it was just a dream though

[@mojo9583]

Stigs Australien Cousin!!

[@KingTeamRacing]

Stoked you dig it! Maybe I'll be popping up a bit more ;)

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

The ending is absolutely fucking legendary.

[@KingTeamRacing]

🤣

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

@@KingTeamRacing Front wheel dr🤢 I'm still laughing the next day 🤣

[@ashleyroper7444]

The entire video is excellent but the last 90 seconds or so just absolutely MADE IT

[@eppyz]

@@ImBarryScottCSS Truth hurts doesn't it🙄

[@two_wheel_zen]

I met Moog last night in the queue for Jacob Collier's gig in Enmore, Sydney. If you don't know his music, check him out... Absolutely mind-blowing. What also really blew my mind was Moog's absolute kindness and graciousness. Despite two random fans interrupting his conversation, it seemed he had all the time in the world for us. He even invited us to skip the queue to keep chatting with him. We didn't want to intrude on his night but I couldn't believe his offer. Thank you Moog for making the night even more special. I've loved every video since the driveway days. Kicking myself I didn't get a selfie... I have a few young MCM fans in my class! -Lewis

[@slimshayneegaming]

You deserve to see them again, that was so awesome! Definitely a good ending to 2022 for ya! Cheers to ya! 👍👍🙂

[@80nodrog]

Luke is a great addition to the channel. He was a natural in front of the camera and was excellent to hear him dissect the lap in each car.

[@KingTeamRacing]

Stoked you dig it!!!

[@dongonzulman6478]

as a gti owner, ive never been more offended (and entertained)

[@dynamo1796]

“GTi: the Honda Civic of today’s p-plater generation” Don’t bother with a burns unit, just send my man straight to the fucking grave

[@archiebf4524]

Could be worse, I own a mk4 gt tdi 🙈

[@polyscient]

Frontwh🤮

[@jamdc2000]

@@archiebf4524 I loved my mk4, sadly had to get rid of her, too many issues and too expensive to fix 'em, GTI mk6 owner now, cant complaint

[@Geebee238]

Mate, I drive a K04 swapped 2002 beetle...could be worse! 😆😅😐

[@joshhillyard2090]

I had a feeling from the first episode about the GTi that this was a wind up 🤣, very well done lads. Keep up the awesome content!

[@jkrillz6571]

That guilty smile gave it away right?? haha

[@joshhillyard2090]

@@jkrillz6571 When he started talking about the German purity I lost it 🤣🤣

[@sombrero4316]

the s2000 is unironically one of my favorite series on this channel, so disappointed it was just a dream

[@wowdogeful]

true, Marty would never unironically buy a Volkswagen, especially not a front wheel drive one with automatic transmission.

[@andrewmahoney4249]

I don't usually care for guests but Luke made for exceptional content

[@metarugia3981]

You know a pro driver when they're doing a flying lap whilst also able to do commentary on every turn. Luke makes it look so easy, like it's a bloody walk in the park for him lol.

[@weimaraners4822]

Standard practice for real drivers, lots of great benefits from thinking out loud and talking about what you're doing while doing it, other than educational purposes

[@polyscient]

This is the car vs car format I've been wishing for on this channel! Please keep bringing him back for future showdowns!

[@rnbricky]

MCM's dream recording technology is insane!

[@piuthemagicman]

BEWARE THE MCM AI V6.9 HAS BECOME SENTIENT

[@RandomActsofGibberish]

That ending 🤣 Something told me as soon as Marty bought a GTi that is was a nightmare 🤣

[@Bobby_Vang]

No joke this is my favorite series so far. I just sold my MK7 and picked up a M240i because I couldn't find a MK8R. Having regrets because now that I've sold the MK7 GTI I've realized how great of a vehicle it was.

[@lunchb0x1986]

@@thoth111 yes.

[@Bobby_Vang]

@@thoth111 My M240I is xDrive I should've noted that. Both tuned the GTI was more fun. The M240i is fast but zero drama. The GTI was a riot on the canyons we have here in California, pushing the tires near the limit and hearing tires screeching. My M240i xDrive was honestly kind of dangerous because it didn't get fun until you pushed to dangerous levels of speed.

[@arno7303]

@@lunchb0x1986 if you are afraid and likely to bin it, then yes fwd is more fun lol (which is 95% of drivers mind you...)

[@jpchampine6992]

@@lunchb0x1986 yes

[@edugamer950]

@@Bobby_Vang put thinner wheels on it, you'll have more fun

[@Frontman936]

Luke is amazing. I did a V8 experience with him at Eastern Creek years ago. When he did a hot lap with me I asked him to show me what the car could do. The g’s were crazy.

[@wobblysauce]

Yep, some people grab the spew bag at the first corner.

[@yazeednayel5507]

does he have a youtube channel?@@wobblysauce

[@yazeednayel5507]

Luke King Racing. just realised Im too stoned i didnt check the description of the video. thanks anyway

[@ThereAreNoHandlesLeft]

Make sure to have Luke back once in awhile. He's great and deserves more than two temporary friends

[@KingTeamRacing]

😂

[@jyoung188]

My eyes usually gloss over on the track day videos, but man, this was one for the ages. That driver was fantastic and the ending was hilarious. 👍

[@chrishuyler3580]

They are usually my favorite if they edit it properly. It's hard to capture the joy of driving on a track -- while driving on a track. I took my friends for a few hot laps this summer but I can't drive and tell them what I'm doing at the same time...at least not if I'm going flat out.

[@buchinsku]

Best 4WD channel on KZbin!

[@megan_alnico]

I did not expect Luke to be so talkative on his lap. It was pretty awesome. I know I didn't understand everything he said but I feel like, eventually, I might. He really kept up in front of the camera and you should absolutely have him on the show again.

[@brIceni-x4w]

Does Luke commentate on his driving all the time? It seems like fun..I'll give it a go on the way to work in the morning.

[@capnskiddies]

Makes you a safer driver. You'll call the hazards as you see them.

[@brIceni-x4w]

@@capnskiddies A fine argument when any passengers become annoyed or perplexed.

[@JT-4real]

Comment needs to be up top of the feed, that was gold!

[@YetAnotherGamerOfficial]

Hi guys just like to say enjoy your content been watching for years can't wait for the Japan special this year much love from UK

[@YetAnotherGamerOfficial]

@mightycarmods , I just saw this on my comments. I checked, and they have been doing it to a few comments. They may be scamming loyal followers. I just thought you guys need to see if you haven't already 👍

[@__gk___]

Great episode!!! You need to get Luke back for more videos for sure. I've never heard a driver communicate so well. Great driver and bloke.

[@JasonTankard]

I've gone, kind of the best of both worlds. Mk7.5 alltrack. DSG and 4motion. Slightly heavier wagon sure. I've done some good mods, IE intake, turbo erbow, and intercooler, is20turbo, custom exhaust (res delete, 2.75" pipes to 2.5" pipes at the splitter, stock mufflers with nice tips. Stage 3 ECU tune + TCU. Currently does highish 4sec 0-100s on launch control. With some better/new tyres, we can scrub a bit more off that time, and could takeome extra weight out of the boot if I really wanted some reduction. Still has flappy paddles, and brakes are the same as the GTI not the R. On the down side it is the 1.8, not a 2L, but it's faster than a stage 1 Golf R even with only an is20. Such a fun platform. Love this video, and Luke would be a great regular addition. So natural on the camera and amazing commentries, really informative.

[@MntlMajorkozmo]

Him talking through every corner, what he did, where he was aiming. Good shit.

[@mattg768]

I know Marty taking the piss, a few episodes ago but I love my golfs/ VW's. been away for the last year travelling around the world. got back to the UK just before Christmas, had a scirocco R in storage and just a few days ago bought a MK 8 golf R ( having owned the MK7.5 before). My dad owned a GTI years ago and had many happy memories with him whilst driving it, now I want to make new memories with my daughter (11yo) when I get the chance to see her ( very stressful personal life reason why I don't see her every day as you can imagine). will be ordering new chopped finger decals soon for it and cannot wait to go on late night drives through the city in my new MK8. followed you guys for years and I love you both, honestly you keep me sane, if it wasn't for the love of cars I would be in a terrible place today so thank you.

[@MrSivie]

10/10 series, guys! I greatly enjoyed it!

[@ThatRedGTI99]

As a GTI owner i felt that ending, but thanks for proving the point with fwd cars 👍

[@kevinStyler6299]

That ending is pure gold.

[@Chrissy-H]

😂😂 that ending! Love MCM

[@notold37]

I wanna see Marty and Moog try and beat Luke's time in their respective cars, that ending was freaking funny AF

[@Akaqibs]

Thank you for this rollercoaster, I have a mk7.5R and my cousins always make GTI jokes. Tbh I was unsure whether this video would help their case or mine... that ending settled things 😂

[@KingTeamRacing]

😂

[@mitchvince1400]

Love the fact you got someone from the TCR series to test the cars, that's awesome and his commentary during the laps was a nice addition also. Keep it up.

[@STEEVSUPREME]

What a great personality Luke King has for the video. Rare to find somebody who can drive that hard and speak that well.

[@marcosulla]

I had so many flashbacks when he started mentioning the not having dreams and the ending was the cherry on top. Amazing as always Pd: rewatched the end of the Evo 9 and when he woke up, back then he was working with supergramps

[@DrM03N3R]

That ending was absolutely brilliant, definitely what this little series needed 😂😂 uncle Barry has that GOOD good 😂😂

[@DavidWilson-kr5gt]

That was a surprise, I expected the GTI to be a decent bit quicker on track where the awd is more of a weight penalty than grip advantage. Good news for me as a mk8 R owner.

[@Ferretsnarf]

It's definitely a track that will help the GTI more than the R with a driver more inclined to FWD in a single hot lap on a new track where the R was lapped first and the GTI was modified. And still the R came out faster. Driver even said he felt like there was more in the R and didn't say the same of the GTI. This was best case scenario for the GTI. For what it's worth I did once own a Mk7 GTI and a 7.5 Golf R. The GTI definitely feel more responsive and lighter, due to the lighter drivetrain and smaller turbo, but I find the R much nicer to drive and much more powerful.

[@Pr0mptCr1t1cal]

I test drove a 2019 R, then a couple weeks later went and bought a 2019 GTI and I've never regretted the choice. This series has just cemented that :D

[@wakaflockaproject]

Is there much difference other then 4 wheel drive

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

​@Waka Flocka Project turbo is bigger in the R, if you're going to track the car there are more coolers on the R, usually the R is basically a fully loaded car and the GTI can be specified as poverty spec if desired

[@damiendegrasse]

@@wakaflockaproject the power + AWD is a pretty massive difference. I do live in a snowy climate so for me there is no comparison.

[@wakaflockaproject]

@@damiendegrasse power can easily be attained via a stage 1 map. The engine is very similar that being a 2.0 litre. I suppose it has a bigger turbo and few other bits to match. The price tag is also much larger

[@OriginalRanger84]

I got a 17' R which works great with the AWD in the white stuff and most of the driving I do with it is cruising on the highway or commuting to work is comfortable with power when needed. But I was desperately searching for a GTI and just couldnt find one that suited my preferences for color and a 6MT.

[@charleshein5991]

Dudes this series has been as entertaining as it gets. I've been a fan and love your channels but this has been a blast.. totally on par with anything that I've seen done by the big ballers like Top Gear. Congrats bros

[@carguybd]

Ironically, this was the very scenario I faced in 2018. I went to upgrade my MK VI GTI to a Golf R, but when I got to the dealership, everything changed. They had a 9k mi. VWOA CPO GTI MK VII Autobahn, basically a FWD Golf R with a sunroof (not available on the R) that was about $18,500 cheaper out the door. And because it came from corporate, all the wear items were replaced (e.g. new tires, brake pads etc.) vs just passing inspection. With the difference I had the GTI tuned to ~350HP; I bought a compact pickup for winter duty (and was able to sell my snow tires); AND I bought a 1 year old snowmobile. Talk about a no-brainer. I still love the Golf R in Lapiz blue though.

[@r.j.bedore9884]

That ending was exactly the results I was expecting and was pretty much perfection.

[@shannonmcatee9610]

Good video. As a stg 2 mk7 gti owner I never get tired of these 2 cars being raced

[@unknownadventure221]

Well done lads, this is ‘peak content creation’ at its finest. Many much enjoy

[@abruckse]

I feel like you guys have been having more fun with the vids lately, and the quality and creativity is the best it's ever been... really happy to see it for y'all.

[@twinshock175]

Great episode, punting around the track times awesome, epic ending. GTi's are going to thin on the ground now!

[@stephen3164]

Nicely done on the ending, and the foreshadowing was perfect! Also, didn’t realize the R was FWD biased unless there was need for power to the rear. I just had figured it was 50/50 around town, with the ability to send 90% to either end... not sure where I got that idea!

[@timwilliams2343]

according to the interballs, "in the past, VW used a Haldex AWD system that could send up to (but no more than) half of the engine's torque to the rear wheels, but for the mk8, VW opted for a torque-vectoring rear differential that can send 100 percent of the engine's torque to an individual wheel (via a multiplate clutch)"; maybe Luke should have had the R in drift mode?

[@geoffstartswithg]

It was all a bad dream, but if that Luke fella is real we need more of him! He's a great fit.

[@dylandunlop2644]

The way he so calmly talked us through the laps was awesome!

[@roastingpeanuts]

Ending was just 10 outta 10! Busted a gut for sure!

[@michaelpace4265]

Haha, I absolutely nabbed some mad photos of Luke racing in TCR at Sandown a few months ago. Crazy to see him on my favourite 4WD channel. Great stuff

[@TheRogueAdventurers]

I'm sure Luke has better stuff to do, but I would love a series of him taking all of the MCM cars round the track and reviewing them from a professional race driver perspective.

[@andrewkendall1425]

What a class act Luke is. Love to see what he could do around there with my GTI. It’s done a 52 with my ham fists at the wheel.

[@SamYoung4x4]

The mighty Kangaroo VS Armadillo battle we've all been waiting for!

[@krishnamcallister2071]

Awe man, You actually made me start looking at Gti's. That was a close one.

[@signdeals4972]

I would love to see that same driver drive a car of equal capacity, but rear wheel drive. I’m very curious what the time would be

[@princesssolace4337]

We are equally blessed in the presence of a King. Long Live King Luk of DownUnder🤘

[@iwanevans607]

Class content as always, been watching for many years from the UK, was not expecting that result in the end and what a crazy dream

[@troydill3731]

@mightycarmods Brilliant. Sometimes y'all sell the schtick really well, sometimes it just gets an eye roll. I was expecting the Marty-in-a-VW bit was gonna earn an eye roll. I was wrong. Moog calling out the snarky eyes was pretty good, but the the bit was cemented as legendary by: "it was front wheel yyyyeeaeaaarrgg" And @KingTeamRacing was epic. Great commentary while flogging the VAGs, and didn't lock up bantering with you legends. Thanks guys!

[@brendanmatthys3788]

I'm glad it was all a dream. I was worried about all the Golf content being real

[@jackharrington4777]

This was brilliant , absolute 🔥 commentary whilst driving, wouldn’t be mad if he was a regular guest

[@jazbah2194]

Aw you gotta have Luke as a regular on the show now... he's got no mates! " Front wheel drooooo🤮" - LoL

[@closg9309]

I tried buying a Golf R but could not find one at MSRP anywhere and I REFUSE to pay a mark up. I purchased the Mk8 GTI for under MSRP and have Stage 1+ , Intake, Exhaust, waiting on intercooler and my MK8 will break loose the PS4s tires I have. The thing is a beast. I have more power than a stock R and it’s a blast to drive, 6MT

[@FrostyMagna]

Hahahah front wheel drr*ughhhhhhrrrhhh* Please make this a shirt!

[@Ollie2846]

Been waiting for this video. Really enjoy the variety of content. Thanks for making my day. Way better than most channels in the U.S.A.

[@ShalomBrother]

A man on a stopwatch can be out by 1/2 a second either way on the start and the stop without proper timing gear I’d call a draw

[@sirspikey]

Love how he explained everything while driving, you should have him on more often

[@renanheidemann]

I can't stop laughing at the end of video 😂 Thanks for made my day happy dude's, you guys are awesome! God cars, good people and good content! Thank you so much! 🤘

[@pauljohnson7382]

Luke...Uncle Barry...Marty...and Moog.... Team Work Makes The Dream Work... Turbo Yoda Approved ✌

[@barnhouseinc]

the video starts at 15:35 🤣

[@muhammadghafurfadillah844]

Luke commenting while driving is better than the new top gear! Great!

[@TheGCJourney]

That ending was epic!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@240fxst]

My Mark 7.5 R with a clutch pedal and buttons i can turn and push is all about FUUUNNNN and analog with just enough tech!!!! Im going on a diet as well. Awesome video. Beyond the BADGE!

[@snaps_by_shathiesh]

Could not have clicked the notification any faster than a MK8R

[@silverarrowgaming1077]

Nice to see the dream narrative again. These are things that are cool to see if you’ve been watching the channel for 10 years

[@agent_soshi]

After going from fwd to awd I’ve realised how much weight impacts handling and I think I might go back to fwd

[@ieism1]

🤮

[@rdmz135]

@@ieism1 =awd

[@tally5k339]

Yeah, I think I prefer the PuRiTY of the GTI. I've heard that the R isn't quite as chuckable into a corner, and I'm not too interested in the red light GP either, so the AWD is hard to justify 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

[@mbardos]

Real men drive RWD :p

[@240fxst]

Numbers didn't lie......Beyond the badge!

[@actng]

My MK4 GTI 1.8T puts 196whp to the ground but from a standing still there's no way i can put full power down. Rolling starts and hwy passes are where the action's at! The Haldex AWD is definitely gonna help the Golf R even if it weighs more.

[@theblackduckaus]

Paying an extra 60k for half a second is such an EJ25 thing 👌 would rate 😂

[@theblackduckaus]

@@quicktoreason2722 cool story bro

[@DrRyan82994]

@@quicktoreason2722 that’s a catback, an intake, and a cobb tune. Like $1500 on the high

[@t3hjnz]

Thanks for finally paying off the two previous episodes' winding up. That was.. a lot of fun. :D

[@fletch1604]

Those laps were Luke King really good

[@bakedboarder34]

I have always loved this bit. Like when Moog “dreamed” he owned a Honda. Brilliant stuff boys.

[@J4M3ST1T3]

Here in the 1st minute, been waiting on this episode since Marty bought his GTI.

[@ktmdukenz]

Or did he? 🧐

[@J4M3ST1T3]

@@ktmdukenz I know, right. 🤣

[@123fourfive5]

Incredible how consistent he was. He has no redos on a new track yet still got laptimes within 1s of each other.

[@kennypool]

Marty was the clear winner , based on price alone.

[@gen3v8]

Pretty Good. My 1st session at Luddenham ,with a passenger , 56.7 in a BRZ.

[@onkarkhot8508]

Is there a Love button anywhere for this video, because a thumbs up just won't do it. You guys have taken it to another level this time. ROFLMAO 🤣

[@builtsubarusti7408]

I really enjoy these in car professional driver videos when they talk about what they do while driving. Great video fellas (all 3 of you)

[@solomondoors6620]

Awesome ending. Classic MCM 😂

[@Aesir5]

Great episode, narration during the flying lap by the expert guest was fantastic.

[@noophe5747]

Awesome episode. Watched it when it first csme out and now again after just buying a mk7.5 gti! Great job guys. The laps were sick

[@derekupson3373]

Awesome seeing Luke on MCM.

[@zyoungson215]

That ending was absolute gold, bravo lads

[@harveyottotech]

This is a very cool comparison, but I think you should have gone with a best of 3 laps for each car to allow for learning curves.

[@fordyford]

Luddenham does live timing, wouldn't that have been the most consistent and fair way to time both cars? Loved the ending lol.

[@philspaghet]

11:30 I KNEW ITTTT It's like the S2000 all over again!

[@twistingterrain7748]

Been watching for over 6 years and this is my favorite episode outside your specials. So good

[@Rippingcones95]

Awesome episode boys. Luke explained things so well 👏

[@desmondefullwood7623]

Being a current Mk7 GTI I am appalled at this video lol. The end of this video had me rolling good vid fellas.

[@IJ-E36]

Props getting the pro driver in for this, he's great on the commentary! The sting at the end had me rolling, g'day Uncle Barry!