Mike Postle vs Matt Berkey in a $10/$25/$50 Game at Stones Gambling Hall!

[@PokerCoaching]

Yesterday, I sat down with the lawyer looking to take Postle to court, Mac VerStandig. We discussed the $20,000,000 lawsuit against Mike Postle in what is the single largest known cheating scandal in the history of broadcast poker: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHnJmoWGp76pnNE

[@EricA-xd9fn]

With all due respect, that filing doesn't have much meat on the bone. Yes, it's now in a federal District Court, but this isn't a slam-dunk AT THIS POINT. I will be interested in seeing its progress. As currently pleaded, it strikes me as half serious, and half publicity stunt.

[@Stockhandle123]

Jonathan Little - Poker Coaching Yes the guy was cheating but he did not know the run outs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5fRfntjh62XpNk. watch the first hand

[@Stockhandle123]

Billy Billington not needed to win a civil court case. both sides present evidence and who ever more people on the jury sides with wins. they have plenty of evidence to have a great chance win this case and it’s only been a week.

[@EricA-xd9fn]

@@Stockhandle123 This is the hard truth. Postle will declare bankruptcy before any civil judgment can attach to anything he owns. Look at how Phil Ivey is handling his judgments from the casinos. If they can tie Rodney & Ryan Stone to this...CHA-CHING. If I'm Mike P, I'm cutting a BIG, BIG retainer check to my CRIMINAL defense attorney...like N-O-W

[@woswasdenni1914]

postle certainly dont know how the board runs out. thats not possible with rfid alone and would require a marked deck and having it sitting somewhere at least for a second without movement. also the way he played indicates that he doesnt. he makes msot of his moves on the river when he is "save" and yes he is doing it very bad. thats why it became public in the first place. image you pla your regular play and only use extra info on critical spots like 3-4 times a night. he would still increase his earnings by a ton yet it would be impossible to see

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

Postle thought that $1,000 per hour winrate would not arouse suspicion.

[@MrJamberee]

$1,000 per hour win rate is actually a little low for a god

[@dcrafti]

I really don't think he knows the cards to come. That's a much more difficult technological challenge, and I haven't seen anything that's compelling in favour of that proposition.

[@feereel]

i think he might because he checks his phone to see other peoples hole cards but he also has some type of bone headphones to relay other info and supposedly uses both

[@dcrafti]

@@feereel Maybe the camera is also infrared, and someone's letting him know about changes in the players' temperatures.

[@feereel]

@@dcrafti maybe so , hes getting info from several different sources

[@dcrafti]

I think the evidence suggests: Folded: Yes, at least if he remembers what came up on the screen; and Burnt: No, because they're never scanned.

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

He doesn't know the future cards, he gets a live stream with no delay to his phone

[@pigs6486]

He knows Berkey is going to most likely blank the turn and river though.

[@dm0065]

Yeah the notion he can see the cards coming has always been fanciful imo

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

He folded KK on QQxx before and the river was a King.

[@bbbbbb9158]

I don't understand how the game was streamed with no delay? I've always known there to be a delay on past streams

[@dm0065]

@@bbbbbb9158 It was streamed with a delay but it seems that this guy had the live stream running to his phone from the rfid reader.

[@AdamTrupish]

Your honor when he calls here he can only have this range, this is how everyone should play this range

[@carterpoker7567]

The Postle scandal even has me watching a Jonathan Little video. This scandal is definitely +EV for poker in general.

[@SoyCaudillo]

Right with you.... I mean J little is a solid player, but never expected to watch his videos... might give em a try... ha ha

[@mrblunderfield]

The most hilarious thing is the way that he smile and plays . Postle doesnt think.

[@dongs4339]

I don't think Postle has knowledge of runouts. I haven't pored over hours of video but from the hands I've seen he tends to pot control in made hand vs big draw spots and wait for safe runouts. If he knew the cards to come it would make sense to pile in money early when he would win.

[@juwish760]

I dont think he knows what coming next either. Just take the JT had when the guy flopped the set of nines. He hits jack on turn and throws it away. If cheating obviously he's trying for the runner runner straight. If he knows whats coming on the board he throws it away on the flop. No need to float.

[@fundiver198]

@@juwish760 I agree. That hand alone is pretty strong evidence, he does not know, what cards are coming. Folding J high on the flop would look a lot less suspicious than folding top pair on the turn, so it would be insane to float the flop, if he knew, he was not going to hit his runner-runner straight.

[@larrysinger9359]

I watched a Vid by Berkey, and he said that he thought Postle played a little soft against him, and when Postle found out Berkey was going to be in the game that he (Postle) was upset. Berkey made a dual video stream with D.Polk

[@ryanhughes1101]

Larry Singer because he knew Berkey is more likely to catch on.

[@martinmccloskey2435]

Great video Jonathon. Thank you for all the videos that you do.

[@bobbundy4100]

If you watch 100s of postles hands its clear by his body language he knows when he is ahead or behind, or when his opponents are weak and he can easily bluff them.

[@aWellPlacedGrenade]

Yes. He could just be picking up on tells and trusting his gut, I mean you don't play lose-aggressive to shy away from the kind of plays he is making, you play loose-aggressive to do exactly what he does, use your "loose image" as a way to get paid, and realize how and when people are slow playing against you. There is nothing even remotely suspicious about this particular hand. The guy flops trips and check-calls and value bets the river. If you are tying to prove this guy guilty - don't use this hand as an example. (I'm referring to this hand and only this hand)

[@TheeDavidDee]

Okay, all of this footage seems to exclusively be and Stones. What about other venues? Does the same weirdness happen at other card rooms?

[@PokerCoaching]

No.

[@stt5v2002]

I see we have escalated! Now suspecting that Postle knew what the runout would be. I don’t really know how that is technologically possible. But I do have a life rule that may apply here. “If something has value, someone will go to considerable effort to steal it.” I would appreciate any hypothesis as to how the runout could be known on a frequent basis. I don’t think it makes sense to physically rig the deck on occasion as that would not earn nearly as much as the “know every hand” cheating. It would be far more difficult and risky. Plus Postle needed to sometimes lose in order to not draw undue attention. I speculate that when all the data is reviewed we will see that Postle started off more carefully and gradually became complacent until he was cheating in absurd situations and eventually got noticed. This is the downfall of most thieves.

[@jakeallstar1]

I haven't seen any reason to believe he knew the runout. I've heard the speculation but it doesn't add up for me. We know he's a bad player. It's easy to see how he might make plays that make more since if he knew the runout even though he didn't, just because he doesn't understand poker all that well. Most hypotheses I've heard of how he's cheating are live info of other players hole cards. He almost never gets all in before the river, which also makes you think he didn't know the runout. I think if criminal charges get pressed his accomplice/accomplices will fold and reveal exactly how they cheated. I guess we'll find out for sure what happened then.

[@raymacdonald8371]

Rigging the deck is too difficult, plus would involve far too many people. It's also completely unnecessary. If he just knows opponents hole cards he can easily crush.

[@jakospades7184]

He was not playing good before phone in lap. You'd have to be bad at poker to think doing this on stream for a year wouldn't look suspicious. Good player cheating wouldn't lend themselves to having all hands cheated in researchable by analysts. Good players understand that even luckbox outliers aren't That ahead after 250+ hrs. Smh. He is bad in way more than one way

[@preflopstore9718]

Postle didn’t care..

[@EricA-xd9fn]

I saw this same thing about 10 years ago when this guy figured out there was a glitch in a (Game King) slot machine in Vegas, whereby he could trigger a Jackpot. Rather than hitting a Jackpot once each week, this idiot hit 8 in 2 hours. Surprise, surprise...he got Security's attention and they busted him. G-R-E-E-D-Y !!

[@grindix]

how would it be possible to know the card that s coming? are you able to give any theory on this? Seeing berkey has a week 7 he thinks check raising on 733 is going to be very strong and weighted to over pairs and he might lose him (since berkey s going to assume flush draws are more likely to lead?) . he thinks he can always go for some value on a turn that berkey checks back. Of course he s got 5’s in his range when he calls twice so he leads river to get max value knowing a 7 cant fold. He definitely seems to know what his opponent is holding but not sure about what cards are coming.

[@onosta]

maybe he is a time traveler

[@onosta]

I hope your lawyer friend has a information security expert with more experience than me. RFID is what people are missing

[@nbrikha]

Again, I want to know logistics here. I commented on Polk's video too...how is he doing this? Where does he get his info from live?

[@PokerCoaching]

His phone, with the info coming from the back room. This has been discussed a ton at this point.

[@staceypool2318]

This is the 2 video indicated that he cheated. The 1st video he hit full house on the turn, and won the hand. This video He hit full house on the river, I wonder how he cheated.

[@tryingtolearnthis]

I still don’t understand why people think he’s “waiting on intel to come in” on the river if everyone thinks he knows their cards.

[@mikeyteee95]

Because there's suspicions that someone else may be sending him signals on what to do in some situations. E.g. they might tell him to fold and not raise in a dodgy spot. This is speculation, of course

[@robolasher]

Since Postles poker "career " is probly over. He has good skills to get a job at the local police dept. or the C I A .

[@Nash9r]

How can Postle know which cards come? He just knows his opponent's cards.

[@robolasher]

Unless the dealers are in on it. Slight of hand off the bottom??

[@jaredcarrick3468]

smitty doesn’t make sense according to Little’s logic. He claimed that Postle is using some sort of “technology” to know what his opponents cards are during the hand. Little’s insinuation is pretty vague in this video. Most that I have seen include Postle very subtly using his phone during hands, which is strategically placed on his knee just under the table, but if he glances down at a certain angle (making it look like he’s thinking or doing a count of his stack) he would get a clear view of the phone. Didn’t happen in this hand. This video hardly provides evidence. I’m not claiming something fishy doesn’t appear to be going on with Postle and the way he plays, but no matter how many more hours of video like these Little has, it wouldn’t prove anything in court. I think the ones where he keeps checking his phone during hands are the most damning. As far as subtle signaling from dealers... almost impossible to prove in court unless they can show dealers making a similar subtle signal directly towards Postle during hands, and it being a pattern that happens potentially tens to hundreds of times during a session on multiple occasions. That would be the only thing where Postle couldn’t really argue context or anything else in any potential litigation. Unless this lawyer Little talked to who is planning on taking Postle to court has something much more concrete, I don’t really see much of a provable case.

[@DrasticKDescription]

Ear buds. It’s a live game.

[@MrJamberee]

He doesn’t know what’s coming. And he doesn’t need to know what’s coming because he has all the advantage he needs knowing the hole cards.

[@jaredcarrick3468]

Rap it Twar which could be a possibility, but no ear buds were visible in Postle’s ear(s) in this particular video.

[@bobbyschneegas2763]

Nice video Jonathan! "He can't even cheat right." Haha awesome

[@МарјанЧавдаров]

Run out is impossible to know ...If he was cheating he only knows opponents cards. Board cards its impossible to know . No one has info about how cards are shuffled as i can see on the table is card shuffler ...in order he to know the run out the card shuffler should somehow record cards and send it on his phone. My guess is that they somehow hack the table and rfid card readers and he knows only opponents cards. If he knew the run out we will witnessed far far crazier hands.

[@tjnunez2031]

Postle claims to study his opponents. He knows Berkey is an aggressive player. Postle may have left money on the table but he might have been setting up Berkey for a much larger pot in later hands. Also Berkey knew a set, straight & full house were possible hands Postle may have had. Berkey donk off his chips in which he should have just folded with his weak two pair vs a full house. This is how a juror would view the hand. Just saying.

[@onosta]

But he freaks out when RFID doesn't show all 4 cards. Like watching Cops(show) pull a drunk over.

[@feemfart]

This is kind of a snapshot of how infuriating this is to me. Berkey’s life is poker, he’s an extremely studied player who’s put everything into it, and he has to put money on the line against a woefully inferior player who can just see his cards and remove his edge.

[@BEERLIGHTBROKER]

Berkey's arms are HUGE. He used to use 25 pound weights as poker chips. Dudes a animal.

[@jolaz69]

Any normal player would have either raised flop or turn to protect their hand and/or to extract value. Postle likes to wait until the river hits to account for variance when he can see the hole cards

[@michaelangst6078]

Anybody else find it really pathetic that this guy was actually watching the Stones cash games, reviewing Postle hands, and he couldn't tell Postle was cheating months ago??? You're a joke!

[@publicaccount1589]

Unfortunately, only banned from the poker community is more likely. It's a jury of your peers...not a jury of your poker playing peers..

[@PokerCoaching]

They better get good expert witnesses who can teach random people how to play.

[@18000rpm]

Postle doesn't know what cards would come, the RFID table is not able to read the deck in the dealer's hand.

[@OsefKincaid]

Postle check calls flop because his overall strategy is to play as small ball as possible until the river. If the pot gets big before the river there are variables that he doesn't control, he wants to limit that. He doesn't 3bet his strongish hands preflop even if spots where he is likely to get called by worse.

[@rudistorm3348]

Great analysis JL.

[@BMan-up3qj]

I don't think postle knows what's coming as far as runouts goes there was one hand where is opponent had k8 and postle had the best hand on the flop then 8 hit the turn and postle looked disgusted and ended up folding something that was a clear call if he didn't know opponent hand

[@michaelhunziker7287]

Imagine the bad beat this clown has coming in the future

[@simonfrouws]

im currently reading ur free e books awesome contentur advice has totally changed the way i look at nl hold em and made it much more fun cuz i usally only used to play hands like ak or pocket 10 or better maybe tried limping with small pairs thanks for evrything i hope to be crushing the small blinds very soon and move up to the bigger stakes cheers mate

[@PokerCoaching]

Awesome, I'm glad to hear that. Good luck in your games!

[@CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY]

Just knowing the hole cards is an astounding advantage. No need to know the runout too.

[@deepsouthcountry2566]

FACTS IF I KNOW YOUR CARDS, FCK THE RUNOUT, IF YOU HIT YOU JUST HIT, TRUST ME IF WE PLAYING FOR JUST 6 HRS IM SURE I'LL GET THAT BACK X 4🤷🏽‍♂️

[@rinoxpgaming6504]

If he knew Berkey hand he should have check raise the flop or turn or bet like 1500 on the river because his hand polarize.

[@Edward-xd1td]

The only one good thing about this video is that if possible didn't know what Berkey had the hand probably would have played out the same way and Burke you would have lost about 2,000 it really is disgustingly gross to watch this guy cheat he's not even a poker player he's just an outright cheater and his day is coming and it's coming to those who helped him to

[@KevinsDisobedience]

I don’t think Postle knows what cards are coming. There’s evidence that suggests he doesn’t. But he definitely can see the hole cards.

[@michaelangst6078]

what is the point of these? Why don't you give advice on how to play hands when you're cheating so it will never be detectable, and how to perfectly balance your normal and cheating balance ranges.....

[@sstheg]

Jonathan, what this hand review moretheless points out is how Postle, sans god mode, is a rather subpar player. He takes a loosey goosey donk play with a bad hand, when a bona fide pro, Matt Berkey, calls him. Given he had an inkling of sense not to crash heads with Matt, he curls into a ball and goes into uber passive check-call mode, hence leaving a shit ton of value on the table. Does this mean he cheated in this spot? He very well may have? However, I can't really say this hand is a real good example of highlighting Postle's alleged cheating. But I can say, he very well likely had a non poker skill advantage.

[@marcuscole3679]

He cant tell what the runout is gonna be

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

He folded KK on QQxx and river rabbit was a K

[@laartwork]

You know he is an amateur, at 5:48 he gives the easiest facial tell that he has trips, straight or a boat.

[@SDJason23]

This comment deserves the most thumbs down in this video

[@crispinrovere]

Saying "Postle knows what the turn is going to be" is overreach. Also "can't even cheat right?" - Honestly he probably isn't cheating in this specific hand.

[@CRAIG5835]

@Mutamind Get a life!

[@oliverjordan695]

Jl took a hand that makes sense for everybody. Fun education and ofc something for a brand.

[@beanshady]

I completely agree with you Crispin in that I don't believe Postle knew what the turn would be prior to it being dealt. But I do agree with Jonathan in that more hands like this need to be covered as well as Postle's more obvious cheating hands since it allows us see Postle's overall betting strategy and how it changes based on how each card is dealt. Taking all hands together, it's quite obvious that Postle is using his "advantage" to maximize pots against his opponents.. at least from what I've seen of his play so far. And I seriously doubt Postle has some kind of divine gift, especially when he's looking his his crouch rather than his opponents ;)

[@EricA-xd9fn]

(to Crispin Rovere) 1st point: Agreed. 2nd Point: Stylistic differences (at Showdown anything from half-Pot to full-Pot is justifiable, because KNOWING Berkey's kicker [8] is weak actually implies you should range bet-size down) However, the circumstantial evidence against Postle is overwhelming, but if they can't find an accomplice, that's all it is: Circumstantial

[@Gos1234567]

@@EricA-xd9fn Yea i cant see the lawsuit winning,lots of crazy bluffs but Postle could show tons of Dwan/Ivey videos as defense,bluffing is part of poker.They could say the winning streak is extreme variance,many people win the lottery twice/three times so are they cheating? The phone in crotch thing,"im looking at the live stream,when i watch the phone on the table it distracts other players,the lights reflect off it,blah blah.He can counter everything easily.Unless someones rats then it hasnt a chance

[@ghytgb]

Poor example of Postle cheating here. I’d be embarrassed and remove this clip.

[@zootedpears4533]

im sick of hearing about this at this point.

[@Requiescat_in_pace]

Mike Postle is a classy guy.

[@PacMan2244]

More blinds means more forced money in the pot before they see their hands. Shouldn't you play more aggressively?

[@Jmega1999]

There's a reason no one else is covering this hand..

[@bobcraft9597]

Could the dealer be making hand signals?

[@deepsouthcountry2566]

WHY IN THEE F, DOES IT MATTER IF HE DON'T KNOW THE RUNOUT, IF I KNEW EVERYBODY HOLE CARDS, I WOULD RETIRE FROM WALMART, TODAY 🤣🤣🤣😭😭🤷🏽‍♂️

[@preflopstore9718]

I like the banning for life idea 💡 😁

[@Jaceksynder]

Preflop Store I like him to apologize to everybody and then go to jail for like 3 years.

[@deanalbertson7203]

Lesson: Don't play poker. Between the rake and cheaters, it's just not worth it.

[@jamesguest6839]

Should not this casino be responsible? Pay the losing players who were cheated? I believe so.

[@PokerCoaching]

They are currently being sued for $10,000,000...

[@wjl3299]

some of the truly skilled high stakes players what we've been watching over the past several years (guys like Tom Dwan, Phil Ivey, Rui Cao, Etc) might choose to play the 6-3 suited exactly so in this spot ... but the variance is simply too risky for the average poker player ... anyway, everyone is convinced that Mike Postle was cheating, and on more than a few of my comments i offered that i could duplicate the feat easily by hacking into the RFID table and creating a program that will read hands and feed information ... however knowing the cards not yet revealed by the readers would be virtually impossible in my scenario ... thanks for the great content !!!

[@tonyc9116]

They are cheaters also, lol

[@scottlum538]

Sorry. This is video analysis is ROT. Because we know he's cheating, we're inferring his actions are suspicious. How many times per day are hands played exactly like this in every casino in the world. Slow play flop with trips to aggressive player, slow play turn to let them hang themselves, check raise boat on river when you have better range to an aggressive villain. Maybe not best way to play by experts, but pretty common. As you said, if he was really cheating, he should have made more money. There are more obvious videos which show he's cheating. This one doesn't.

[@68air]

If you have to cheat after flopping a set then you should consider other means of gainful employment.

[@bettyjane6684]

Is he still playing poker and if so why would anyone play with him? or if so are they all watching him suspiciously and looking to see what he is looking at?

[@PokerCoaching]

No one pays attention.

[@EricA-xd9fn]

I sense Postle is a B- player, so even without cheating, which at this moment would be idiotic, he can probably get people into a game just on notoriety ("I played Poker with Mike Postle" ... maybe even sell T-shirts)

[@onosta]

If so, I bet he has a different phone.

[@Casnazer]

If I was playing this hand, for sure I’m raising after the flop with three of a kind, like I’m trying to scare people off. I do this all the time and it works even when people don’t have shit since they think I’m stealing,

[@DrasticKDescription]

So dude was heating?

[@Dimens1oner]

well... "berkey probably has 5 or 7... + draws wtf... since when that is the why would he not have 88+ ak kq etc, u woulc cbet flop with every thing and doenst take anything out of the range, well mby worst hands will slow down turn but u could easily have draws + overpairs + ak + 7x in the river.

[@emmanuelvacakis4463]

Do you think he knows how the board will run out as well as his opponents cards? True. Postle should pay back the money he stole and be banned from playing poker for life.

[@PokerCoaching]

It seems clear that he knows each player's hole cards. I do not think he knows what is coming, but I could be wrong. I am leaving the investigation of the case to the lawyers.

[@DexterTCN]

be nicer to your kid!

[@simondaughtry4619]

Postle is more prepared to win than Berkey....Berkey needs to work on preparation. If you dont know what the other player's cards are your not very prepared are you?

[@newdomtanner]

Good breakdown

[@paladin876]

All of these guys are analyzing hands where the play is just questionable. How about doing the hands where postle jams with trash and wins. Because there are a ton of those.

[@pugsnhogz]

@8:56 "he can't even cheat right!"

[@halcyonataractic8623]

So you think he knows the run out also?

[@Jaceksynder]

I would love to see my opponents hands haha

[@martinjohn5858]

He bet the right amount in river. Anything more and it wouldnt have been an easy decision for his opponent. And he did it for 975 dollars. Thats pure psychology. Almost like selling a product for 9.99. I have watched Postle’s hands and while some like the ‘made straight’ were the ones that arose suspicion, the truth is in many cases he has made the right play to not arouse suspicion but at the same time extract money. In this case, he bet the right amount for his opponent to definitely call. He is definitely an above average player - that is without doubt. People are slightly going overboard critisizing his play which I think has been pretty decent. There is a lot to process if he is actually getting all the card info - he is handling himself well at the table and making the right decisions while getting the info through some channel which is not going to be clear cut. Lets assume he is proven guilty and after a few years returns to poker and I had 10 k to stake somebody in the world series. I would stake this guy over some of the supposed pros.

[@sivieri4]

Civil suit with jury. If the jury knows nothing about poker. The defense can win.

[@EricA-xd9fn]

Up to this moment, all evidence against Postle is circumstantial. If they can't flip whatever tech-guy helped him tap the RFID, he will skate (or declare bankruptcy after a civil judgment comes down). Stones Gambling Hall should be the ones sweating bullets right now.

[@Gos1234567]

Defense will win.All the lawsuit has are videos with amazing bluffs,amazing folds,well that happens every minute of every day.Amazing winrate,well people get lucky,Hello john Hesp.Looking at his phone,people look at their phones(big shock).Look its like a top level drug dealer,you know what he does but trying to prove it is harder

[@EricA-xd9fn]

@@Gos1234567 Postle had an accomplice...most likely a tech-guy to tap the RFID feed and send it to his phone. Unless they flip that guy, it's 100% circumstantial. But recall this famous quote from Benjamin Franklin: "Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."

[@Jermynchurch]

I like your content JL.. but let’s move on (after you do what you need to do.. thanks for using resources to keep possible cheaters in check w Atty) . This hand is REALLY subjective by many people. The fringe is not where cases are made but obvious ones.

[@mikepostle1711]

How Dose K/9 have have a 47% on the Flop??? NO sence?

[@nobbynobbynoob]

Pre flop. The equities aren't updated at the point where Mr Little has frozen the video.

[@ILLuSioNKiLLeR1985]

It is not proven that postle is cheating. And this could be the problem in the lawsuit tbh

[@EricA-xd9fn]

It's all circumstantial RIGHT NOW, but the circumstantial evidence is OVERWHELMING

[@Hotobu]

Actually it pretty much is. Only civil action is being taken against him, not criminal. In a criminal case the burden of proof is much higher "without a shadow of a doubt." In a civil case it's only 51% "More likely than not". If you look away the hours of evidence it makes it FAAAAAAR more likely that he is cheating than not, therefore to meet the civil standard of guilt he's going to be found guilty.

[@hitchchristos257]

This is bizarre considering g how badly Berkey has treated you recently. ‘World class’ Not so sure but either way.

[@AdamTrupish]

Youre honor given this mans range, and how his opponent should play his perceived range he is cheating... good luck

[@aWellPlacedGrenade]

"you can't even cheat right, if you were cheating you would of bet more" You accidentally made an argument for him being innocent. This entire hand is a stretch - one person flopped trips and the other flopped top pair and pretty normal play ensued. I mean he's probably guilty, but I wouldn't show this one in court lol.

[@PokerCoaching]

I made the case for him being not very good at cheating, which is why he was cheating in the first place.

[@aWellPlacedGrenade]

@@PokerCoaching Fair enough. I still disagree with this particular analysis. But I get you are just trying to bring forth hands that have not been covered yet.

[@joeregan63]

How was this normal play? Postle’s line is egregiously bad unless his opponent has precisely a medium strength hand. Which Berkey happened to have. This only looks like normal play because this is how morons like to play aces

[@joeregan63]

Also, the river donk is terrible in an vacuum (check call donk is rarely a good play) and in game flow (there’s no reason Berkey can’t have 5x). But if you know you’re good, you can make plays like this.

[@aWellPlacedGrenade]

Joe Regan check calling with when you flop trips is not “rarely a good play”, and either is value betting a fullhouse on the river

[@jcedoc6951]

He can't even cheat right. 😂😂😂

[@MikeErroni]

I totally disagree with your analysis of this hand and don't see irrefutable proof of cheating in this clip. Whether or not it's the correct play Postle easily could have been thinking/hoping Berkey has a 7 or a flush draw (and Postle being a fishy optimist, hoping Berkey will miss the turn) so Postle checks the flop to try and trap and out of fear of killing the action. Maybe on the river Postle just thought/hoped Berkey had a 7, or busted nut flush draw, so he bet what he thought would look like a bad bluff and bet small enough that he might get called. Whether Postle played *wrong* or not we can't claim to know what he knew or what he was actually thinking. Who really knows what he was thinking?? It's absurd to say Postle would only play this hand like this if he could see Berkey's cards because a "good player would never it like that versus an opponents unknown range". Okay, incoming hate reply's about how stupid I am incoming in 3,2,1... [whatever]

[@PokerCoaching]

...this was not meant to show irrefutable proof. What may you think that?

[@MikeErroni]

@@PokerCoaching Comments you made in the video like; "...Postle, who by now, everyone knows can see his opponents cards..." and a comment made specifically about the hand in this video; "...not so egregious but still, clearly, these are plays he would only make if he could see his opponents cards." (3:20) So you're essentially saying that cheating (in this video) is a matter of fact. While you may not directly state that this video shows 'irrefutable' evidence of cheating you're saying it's so obvious (in this hand/video) that it's ludicrous to question the claim of cheating. I disagree. While he could be cheating he could also be a great and/or lucky player, or he could just be pushing chips around at the right time without a thought in his head and getting lucky. I started watching the Postle videos on day one, assuming there was evidence, and with the intention of learning how he was cheating so I knew what to watch for so I could avoid falling victim to similar methods. But all I've seen is a few odd behaviors & some hands that look suspicious. And while his live stream stats are questionable, those numbers may not be accurate. Other than that I've seen nothing that comes close to proving he is cheating. A more likely explanation for Postle's play would be him being told to play like a bluffing super LAG for the action & drama, to get eye balls on the stream, and that any losses would be covered. That's just speculation but still as plausible as cheating, or being an oblivious donkey, and would also explain a lot of his plays.

[@PokerCoaching]

@@MikeErroni Those are from many other hands. Search youtube. They come right up.

[@MikeErroni]

@@PokerCoaching I've watched 80% of Ingram's streams, all of Polk's Postle videos and yours, plus other videos on Postle's 'cheating'. I'm just no convinced. If you didn't mean to imply that this specific video was evidence of cheating then perhaps you weren't clear or I misunderstood, or maybe my previous reply wasn't clear. In any case I've watched this particular video twice and could come up with several different lines of thought on each street that could justify Postle's play other than cheating. Still enjoy your videos & content as always though, thanks.

[@frankhansson6244]

So everybody thats a bad player may be a cheater? This is realy not any evedence.

[@suleiman1520]

Boy that escalated quickly 😂😂😂

[@jackhill8831]

A MUST SEE [ELIE BURSZTEIN] CHEATING AT POKER JAME BOND STYLE

[@bustorobusto6316]

You’re the man

[@natepereira9600]

Have some professionalism and destroy this video. With kids in the background yelling nonstop consider not posting this video.

[@charlesmurray3255]

Does anyone else see the arrogant smug look on Postles face ?

[@chrismack4320]

He has a very slappable face

[@thesaim1036]

There are so many better hands to review..

[@jackmack1061]

why do people play him?

[@jakospades7184]

Stones stream wasn't super viewed. Players would see one session and think wow his VPIP is really high... He makes weird plays. Must be bad. And he Is a bad player... It takes many sessions before cheating is obvious though.

[@jackmack1061]

yeah, that makes sense, thanks

[@PokerCoaching]

They don't anymore.

[@Jermynchurch]

Yep, I never watched but my impression was wow , they suck when I did. This brought others to the game with the assumption that v was just lucky with wide pre ranges. His style actually helped the stream I’m sure . Food for thought

[@southernbreeze3278]

I didn't see any cheating

[@kennystorch4953]

this is just berkey overplaying his hand

[@SpadesNYC82]

Not against a guy with a 60% VPIP.

[@willh4340]

And he'll go to prison???

[@chrismack4320]

I bet he'll be checking his crotch area a lot more in prison......

[@sstheg]

Highly unlikely only bc to my knowledge there's no criminal statute for cheating in poker. What's highly likely, he'll be permanently barred from any casino in California. Therefore, the diety will have to take his poker career and godlike act further east or overseas like Costa Rica.

[@willh4340]

@@sstheg I was being facetious, but actually, he can be charged under RICO, which is what the civil suit is alleging. That, he can be charged with criminally

[@sstheg]

@@willh4340 Understand and appreciate the facetiousness 😀 Note: Let me preface, I'm not an attorney or prosecutor, I'm just going off the top of my head here. Can he be charged under the federal RICO statute? I'm sure they can use any/all evidence presented in civil to build a case. I don't know the statute of limitations, but lawsuits can take years before going to trial. The feds would likely charge all parties including Stones and their owners if they discovered a deep rooted criminal racket a la the mafia. IMO, I don't know that this would be a big enough fish for federal prosecutors to virulently pursue.

[@willh4340]

@@sstheg I literally just said that in my last comment. The civil case alleges RICO, and if it's proven that an employee of the casino was in on it, they can absolutely be brought up on federal RICO charges, including possibly the owners. They, of course, have plausible deniability, and most likely weren't in on the scheme, but, they are responsible for what their employees do in most instances.

[@simonmojarad4806]

If he is cheating and everyone knows it well why wasn’t he caught sooner?

[@schaef2355]

😑 when u gotta wait thru 7 mins of talking to see the river

[@MichaelTexas70]

He bets $975 on the river. If he knows Berkeys hand, he will bet double that. How is this cheating?

[@yeayea4072]

A $20M lawsuit is pointless because there is no real evidence of cheating occurring. And at this point I don’t think there will be anything found either. Whatever he did he got away with it and it’s over.

[@fifou6394]

There is plenty of evidence

[@mattsimmons6877]

He isn’t cheating. Everyone will look really dumb when this is all over with. !!!!

[@jbf4184]

Matt Simmons ok troll People make almost 300K in 1-3 games, but ONLY the streamed ones...All the time.

[@mattsimmons6877]

I’m not a troll at all I’ve watched hundreds of videos. It’s easy to say he’s cheating when we can see the whole cards.

[@alexwoodies4043]

😂😂😂idiot. You look silly. Players don’t enjoy looking at their own wangs 20 times an hour. Or jamming in hundreds of bigs with 5 high pre. I literally don’t know any decent player who has ever put in that kind of money with 5 high pre flop.

[@alexwoodies4043]

There is one reason you call with 5/4 there. You know they both have ace king.

[@josephblackwell1963]

What a horrible breakdown

[@Atonement-]

Pathetic.... Yet u default to Robbi is innocent with that J high call when she even said she thought Garrett had an ace?? PATHETIC HYPOCRISY.... Postle employs CTO... Robbi & Rip employ VTO

[@joeingram1]

DONWVOTE

[@hammertime9132]

Just let the hand play out ur annoying..

[@treaty3nation]

Didn’t enjoy this, why even bother reviewing hands from someone that is cheating. There is nothing to gain from this.

[@Hotobu]

Because it's a new wrinkle. There are 1000s of hours of hand analysis on KZbin. How often do you get to see a cheater in action?

[@HoneyBadger_DontGive_F]

He is bad cheater as well lol