Mike Rowe and the DOWNFALL of Scientology with Journalist Tony Ortega | The Way I Heard It

This is part 2 of Mike Rowe's interview with Tony Ortega on "The Way I Heard It" podcast. In this video, Mike and Tony discuss the case against Danny Masterson, a prominent member of Scientology, and other oddities of the Church of Scientology.
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[@BritInvLvr]

I’m glad more people are speaking out against this cult. I hope I live to see its downfall.

[@smiling390]

I hope to see that in my lifetime too! They basically bullied to get tax exempt status and now it's time to take it away. Bless Leah Remini and especially Mike Rinder, who, is battling advanced esophageal cancer. 💞

[@originalmamagrizzly2478]

Amen!!

[@divinedomina7599]

Scientology is big on 'word clearing.' The definition of cult? 'A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.' Definition of veneration: 'Great respect; reverence." Definition of devotion: "Love, loyalty, or enthusiasm for a person, activity, or cause." What's the issue? '

[@indianumberonecountry]

Mormonism is next

[@COVID...19]

Is Mike antisemitic or something? It seems he would hate the Jews as mush as he hates the Scientologist as he believes the pre-WII propaganda. DUMMY 😅 Scientology is a religion in the fullest sense of the word hundreds of countries around the world.

[@mothersgauri4137]

Mike - SO MUCH respect to you for covering things about this abusive , mafia like organization It is shameful and disgusting that they have continued to receive religious tax exempt status that they hide behind. I hope you will continue to pursue this ! 👍👍👍👍

[@taylormoses5884]

Tony Robinson scam artist

[@mothersgauri4137]

@@taylormoses5884 Agree....although VERY small change to Scientology.

[@d.e.b.b5788]

All religions are a scam. It's all about controlling people behavior, and getting rich by doing it.

[@patnasti]

I would think if they kept the Bible in schools with people who Really know the Lord teach it there wouldn't be so many taken in by these cult's

[@mothersgauri4137]

@@patnasti I hope you realize how many "Christian" cult groups there are today . I mean no disrespect to any religion. The point is that "destructive cults" go beyond any religion. The belief system is simply a cover for the leader's agenda. If you haven't already, you might find Steven Hassan's books helpful in identifying exactly what a cult is and how people get sucked in....very smart, sincere and talented people. The methods are subtle and insidious....but recognizable when one becomes educated, as they all follow a certain way of entrapment. Once one understands the dynamics of how one can get trapped, then one can at least be more vigilant and know what to look out for. Personally I wish they would teach about these traps in schools. It could save a lot of lives. I understand and respect your feelings that religion will save lives, and I don't necessarily disagree. BUT..sadly religion, just like other things, can be abused and one needs to recognize that.(IMO)

[@briandwiggins1576]

May all the Scientologists see the light and leave that evil organization.

[@justinpaone2227]

they are guilty of covering it up just like the catholic church, but they did not promote it as far as I know. hollywood is also guilty of covering all this up for decades.

[@corneliusantonius3108]

Yeah they need to live Satanology

[@drrocketman7794]

They *do* see the light. It makes them rich.

[@LadyGX]

​@@drrocketman7794No, it only makes the organization rich. Most members live in poverty.

[@bevsimms9526]

I couldn't explain it better than myself might I could not you did an excellent job the first five seconds and it's not a religion by any means

[@sungal1956]

The stories that Leah Remini’s series aired were heartbreaking 💔. I myself learned so much from that show! Didn’t surprise me when it was taken off-air 😢

[@redblaze1981pk76]

Her show should have never been taken down. It should have been allowed to stayed on !!!

[@robertsloane1268]

Scientology shut them down..

[@shadowphantom2567]

Scientology goes after anyone who may have influence who speaks out against them. Scientology would be making a HUGE mistake going after Mike Rowe for this or any other video. Mike is loved by millions, and going after him publicly would cause public retribution against Scientology they are not prepared for. But, then again, Scientology has demonstrated in one example after the next, repeatedly over the years, they are COMPLETELY self unaware, and are unable to "take the pulse" of a given situation. This, THIS will be their demise. The inability to think and react strategically. They are a hammer constantly in search of a nail.

[@Dastardly_Saboteur]

I love Mike Rowe and have followed him for years but I have to wonder why he participates in Grant Cardone (huge Scientology donor) conferences

[@SGTSLACKASS]

After Amber Heard you can’t believe any women. Women can’t consent to sex then change her mind 10 years later for Financial gain. Could careless about Scientology but been around women my whole life they are all pathological liars and will do anything for attention play to the victim.

[@TheMitchyb61]

The fact that our entire country has not turned against them yet is astounding! The amount of horrific things they have done is staggering!

[@MasonBlue6]

What about the pedo groomer movement all across the world thats castrating boys? IGNORE THAT. Mike lost a lot of my respect with these attacks on a religious people.

[@MasonBlue6]

@@TheMitchyb61 Wait until you see what they do to boys in schools all across the west.. wait ignore that! It's just castration.

[@stevewilliams6354]

Not many people have earned my respect but Mike Rowe is a man’s man he’s a solid true blue American.

[@johnfasanoii4382]

Blue collar American* he looks white to me? Lol

[@XenusMama]

Unlike Tony Ortega …. He creeps me out.

[@madelineharkins5643]

Touche! Love that man.

[@colerobertson6500]

I don't know if it's a "these days" thing or because I'm over 40 but everything seems to be political with me. I certainly lean left most of the time. Mike Rowe does not. I drive over 5k miles a month and listen to a lot of podcasts while doing so. Mike Rowe is my favorite. There are lots of times I do not agree with him. It doesn't matter. He has never set off my bs meter. I believe that he truly believes in what he says he believes and he's put real thought into it. I respect that so much, even if I don't always agree with what he believes. He is the epitome of what I believe people that lean right of center are supposed to be. (the matt walsh thing though.....i know that 'our kids being taught about gender identity' is bs. they're not. i have kids. they're not. they might be if a transgender were to show up in their school in an attempt to explain this type of person that's so alien to them but so far, that hasn't happened. also, trans is about as new as the word 'tranny' is. it was a word my dad used so it's at least from his generation if not before. and no, he wasn't referring to transmissions. transgenders aren't new. in the navy, we were told we couldn't throw them out of windows if our prostitute turned out to be one. because that happened. i would love to have an interview with matt walsh but i know that interview won't survive editing because it would not support his narrative.)

[@reddamooyoung2.079]

Hate when the words "true american or patriot" means one thing

[@rustylingenfelter5756]

Thanks for bringing attention to these criminals. First, they lose their tax-exempt status, and then they stop hiding behind this arbitration nonsense to make them fair game for civil and criminal prosecution.

[@corgicaravan8315]

Thanks guys. Keep the spotlight on them. Need to end their tax exempt status!

[@drrocketman7794]

It isn't a religion it's a scam.

[@corneliusantonius3108]

@@drrocketman7794 Who invents a religion in 1953 anyway

[@drrocketman7794]

@@corneliusantonius3108 A self-aggrandizing narcissistic US Navy officer deemed unfit for command.

[@corneliusantonius3108]

@@drrocketman7794 Low level Officer

[@drrocketman7794]

@corneliusantonius3108 I don't think he advanced beyond Ensign

[@yvonne9484]

IMO, Scientology is just a tax exempt pyramid scheme. Watching a family member be lured in by promises of wealth and superiority over all, has been so heartbreaking. This group steals souls and produces emotionless money making machines. 💔

[@lowellmichels5792]

Sounds a lot like mormanism to me

[@ferretyluv]

It’s not an opinion, they really are just a pyramid scheme.

[@bradwilliams1691]

As far as I'm concerned - $cientology is nothing but a criminal organisation.

[@mikeb3172]

Is it your opinion or do you just believe things from hypnotic sounding people yourself?

[@ferretyluv]

@@mikeb3172 Hi Karin!

[@Light-Eater]

Can you even imagine, what kind of psychopaths are in charge of Scientology?

[@dp.2766]

There’s really only one kind of psycho/sociopath.

[@LadyGX]

There's really only one.

[@christinalock9937]

​@@LadyGXKEN !! IE THE MOVIE CHARACTER COMES TO MIND, DISNEY OF TODAY IN MY OPINION 😂. CULT OF DAVVVIII DD..... 😂😂😂😂

[@gwenstone3903]

Yeah including couch jumping nuts that society continues to support by going to his crummy movies!

[@ClintWestVood]

As a kid round 10-15 (28 now) i grew up at FLAG, the headquarters of scientology in Tampa, and man do i know some stuff. Example, i lived in a drug rehab house my parents worked at, a giant mansion. we would cook and clean and see our fair share of relapses, well, when we tried to leave they stole ALL of our stuff and told us we cannot leave the house (funded by flag) so we took what we could of ours and got some friends help and dipped. ive met many celebs (the two you can think of). it was a nice place for a kid but looking back and what they did to my parents i can say they are awful people.

[@JF-up9jn]

Demolition of Scientology is a Dirty Job, but somebody's gotta do it. 💪😁 So glad to find Mike Rowe still proving that real men are not extinct in America. 👍 Liked, subbed, and here to show my support for Mike and all those trying to end this cult's reign of terror. ❤🙏

[@quantumpotential7639]

That's so true. It IS a dirty job as Mike likes to say. LoL 😆

[@COVID...19]

​@@quantumpotential7639Mike Rowe is an asset. Which means he’s a liabity to himself and to the people - a useful idiot. He's the lier. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2O7goOJbs6KnqMsi=nXz07ZUe6HVrMB_X

[@kidwave1]

Mike, Thank you so much for continuing to do podcasts on Scientology. Please keep the pressure on them!

[@CJBW]

Please talk to some real experts-xSci who were high up in system. Claire Headley was expert witness in Masterson case. Aaron Smith-Levin who is VP of The Aftermath Foundation and is in contact with many under cover current Scientologists who feed him information.

[@Jute-xr5pq]

Thank you, Mike Rowe for just being a voice of reason and a part of the fabric of American society. One of the very, very few celebrities I would want to sit down and have coffee with and a conversation .

[@GayleDE]

Just listening to Jenna Miscaviage's book. The way they treated children was abusive and disgusting!! Scientology needs to be investigated. They interegate children, young children and ask adult type inappropriate questions. Get the children out now!

[@DamePiglet]

Sounds a lot like public schools nowadays 🤔

[@GayleDE]

@@DamePiglet I have 4 grandchildren that go to public schools in Australia, nothing like this has ever happened to them. Can you give examples and what schools are interegating children?

[@DamePiglet]

@@GayleDE Here are a few examples- this was just a quick search. You can find thousands more if you search. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4bZdIRqnrZgZpo kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpjdiJWYpsiFl6c kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJO5fIRujNyZpZI kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGHKg6qel89-opo kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKeuXpeui5yrrs0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gam2kIdvg9WXi7c kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIPZXqmbrZqfo5o

[@jamesharmon3827]

Society in general is really messing with kids nowadays. This sort of thing, all the transgender nonsense, I am terrified for my daughter.

[@katie7748]

​@@GayleDEGo do your homework. There's proof of it all over the place if you're willing to look, hear, and accept it.

[@sarahmercury2541]

I’m so glad you have this channel! I appreciate your defense of trades!!! My dad taught public school, many different electives, for vulnerable kids who struggled in school, (and everyone). He taught aviation and the kids who got through the whole two years had their private pilot license in HIGHSCHOOL!!! Provided by their public education. We are so lost without things like this. The life and color has drained from our citizens.

[@tedhardulak7698]

In the mid-seventies I had a room mate that was 100% into Scientology. He would go to California for weeks at a time. And when he came back he was scary strange. Now I 100% know it was Demonic, from some of the stuff he did. And tried on me. Even offering to pay for me to go out there so I could become "Clear". He worshiped L.Ron Hubbard. Im glad there were 4 of us living together and we could talk about it. He would not listen to anything we said because we were "Not able to understand where he was". And the money he spent on them would spin my head. There is NO WAY this is a Church. It is a very Lucrative SCAM. I so Thank GOD I could see it. So many people are "Sucked in"

[@photografiq_presents]

There's some delicious irony in this comment😅

[@c172215s]

@@photografiq_presents You must be into Karl

[@lmost]

@nudenut1916 YEAH 🤣 I noticed it too!

[@AllisonMetcalfPalumbo]

Claire and Marc Headley (Blown for Good) and Aaron Smith-Levin (Growing Up in Scientology) also HUGE SPTV (Suppressive Persons TV) channels on KZbin that are having great impact on chipping away at the Cult of Scientology. Would love for Mike to interview them at some point. Claire in particular was way up the line in Scientology. The person she answered to answered to David Miscavige.

[@rh1203]

I saw a video years ago where this one gentleman was told the cross on the building in Clearwater was paid for by just him. Then he found out other members were told the same.

[@1984FarmDreams]

Tony O is gold. I am grateful for him and so many brave people. I was sent to Clearwater to the doctor. I experienced and saw what is said and written about them. It’s TRUTH! The history goes deep! My intuition saved me. These brave journalists and others at SPTV 💜 helped me get away too. I am so happy to see Scientology truth be brought to surface. I experienced the stalking, police corruption, intimidation games, and some other crazy odd stuff. Mucho love Tony. Thanks for this Mikey. And Spanky- for your interview with Tony O.

[@madcrabber1113]

I had just started my new job in 1991 as a new home construction manager at the ripe old age of 23 in Maryland. I had one day per week off on Sundays and looked forward to Mike's show on local cable called The Sunday Showcase Of Homes (or something similar) Amazing how far he has come but still seems grounded.

[@kevinvinluanjr.5000]

I don't understand this. How can anyone still be in Scientology when they have committed criminal acts? Totally unreal and disturbing! Shut Scientology down!

[@ryanp0342]

How can anyone still be in the Catholic Church when they have commuted criminal acts?

[@lmost]

@ryanp6267 Catholics (like many other religious) invest an immense amount of their money, time, and emotions into a system of rituals designed to keep them perpetuating that very system. They’ve made their religion an integral part of their very _idenitity._ Extraordinarily few people in their position are able to recognize the trap they’re in, let alone admit to themselves to begin with that they’re in a trap. Most of them are too far in to be able to reverse course.

[@harley6222]

Can you imagine what these rich ppl could do with their money. Instead of giving it to the 1960 scientology mentality, give it to good causes. The need is there. Thank you Mike 💕

[@ferretyluv]

That’s the thing. These people believe CoS is using their money for good causes.

[@harley6222]

@@ferretyluv IKR?

[@karyngarrison]

You hit the nail on the head, EXACTLY 💯

[@jamesyoung9742]

Love Dirty Jobs, but more enjoy seeing Mike still being based and a Man of men!

[@ferretyluv]

I disagree with Mike’s takes on worker’s rights, but I’ve always loved Dirty Jobs and he’s always seemed to be a good guy.

[@debbiem.3128]

Yes! Government accountability, human rights ❤ Rock the status quo! The Aftermath Foundation exists for those wanting to leave Scientology, there are people out here who care about your well-being. ❤

[@susanb217]

Please keep this in the spotlight!! im so beyond angered

[@kathydavenport4422]

Thank you Mike I pray you and others will shut them down they’ve been evil from the beginning

[@stevetaylor9265]

As long as the right donations are made the government will not do anything.

[@Initwithlove]

EXACTLY

[@jamesholmes5631]

Big balls, Mike. Big ball's. Fight the good fight.

[@peggyw172]

I just want to say that I love Mike Rowe’s voice. I’d listen to him read the phone book.

[@LivingMyBestLifeIAm]

Hahaha me too….and he’s sure not hard to look at lol 😂

[@donnahampton3632]

He did read the phone book. We loved it.

[@mikeb3172]

If he said "now everyone, all hate your local library", you'd do it as a worshipper

[@JF-up9jn]

I used to say he could read the dictionary and I'd hang on every word. You're right about the voice, he's like the blue collar Morgan Freeman. 😊

[@c172215s]

@@mikeb3172 What an insult to peoples intelligence.

[@Zephaerie1]

Can we acknowledge that being in a relationship does not mean you cannot be assaulted and/or raped? Women are most often assaulted by people they know. And sexual violence is used as a means of control in relationships.

[@katie7748]

Can we acknowledge that men can be r-ped, ass--lted, and ab-sed too by people they know?

[@mriley4955]

You go Mike. Don’t let your foot off the gas!

[@aaronl6333]

Mike thanks for being a real man and bringing this to light!!!

[@moonglow630]

The problem I have is that if you leave you’re shunned by your family, & if you speak out against it, they terrorize you.

[@winros]

First of all you guys look great! I have been down the rabbit hole of Scientology for the last 10 years! Like you Tony I find it to be fascinating as well! This is how I see Scientology in a nutshell... Multi-level marketing, Ponzi scam, 80s and everyone's on a hamster wheel and there is a short guy running the boat!✌️🤟

[@kevinnelle6208]

It’s nice to see Mike Rowe and Jordan Peterson speaking out against the Cult of Scientology.

[@feanacar]

Why doesn’t the IRS go into some of these “ outreach” classes, undercover, and see if they can get in to the building if anyone is in the buildings, etc. They would find that it’s a sham, and that would be enough to pull their tax exempt status.

[@Initwithlove]

Yes, reverse what they do!!!!! Do it right back in conversation 🤯

[@craigsymington5401]

They stopped this in the 80s, if there was something to find, howcome its not been found in 80 years?

[@andyl0261]

An above ground bunker is called a garage.

[@user-ci3so6vu4i]

They need to be held accountable for their actions or lack there of !

[@1984FarmDreams]

Tony brings the darkness with great laughter. I read it Everyday! Should not have invited me to Clearwater. I would have never ended up here. Glad he can make us laugh- because Scientology is dark AF!

[@thewanderer5790]

❤ That you are talking about this….

[@MrJdsenior]

Best line: "She doesn't scare so easily".

[@jerrykeenan1848]

You have explained so much of what happened in this event. Thank you for having us understand. God bless the young women.

[@kylieprice6651]

Thanks Mike for having a pair when it comes to reporting on COS, same with Tony, Wish there were more

[@anne-mariaplevier2241]

The amount of money Scientology has should also help the IRS decide to go after them.

[@lizzieizzard]

Thanks again for telling us the truth

[@lindahirst9123]

After watching this video I watched Going Clear to get a better idea of what Scientology was all about. Holy cow, what an eye opener. I had no idea how bad it was, thank you for mentioning this documentary.

[@gwcrispi]

The problem is..., there's nothing left to uncover or bring down. EVERYONE knows what they are.

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

That's not the same as acting on it.

[@canadiangemstones7636]

Tom Cruise doesn’t know.

[@austindarrenor]

Noteworthy is I don't see any pro-Scientology folks in the comments defending the subject. Maybe it's because they don't want to grace this sort of sludge by Mike Rowe with a response.

[@montanalilac]

@@austindarrenorIt does seem strange, but from some things Leah Remini said in her documentary that was on Netflix, I think the members are monitored as to what they are allowed to see on social media, newscasts, etc. As in, they aren’t allowed to watch any videos tagged with the church’s name. So if they comment, even in support of the church, they get punished for breaking the rules and watching the video in the first place. I could be wrong as it’s been awhile since I watched the documentary, but I feel like there was something like that in there.

[@austindarrenor]

@@montanalilac It's like watching videos of aviation disasters on your way to the airport. It's just suggested that you don't. But it's just suggested. The idea that there's monitoring, what's allowed or isn't allowed to watch, punishment etc is all bullsh*t. And the reason it's suggested is because videos like this one are full of so much garbage, literally. Data that's been cut, paste and full of omissions if not outright fabrications. Myself I want the whole story, not some idiot's cut up version of it.

[@kristinhughes5309]

Thank you for this series on Scientology. This organization reminds me of the 1930’s start of Nazi Germany. This is really sad. ❤

[@user-KrackerJack]

You're an awesome dude Mike

[@marionrichards1559]

Love Tony and his dedication to exposing this cult.

[@shellydehart8217]

How enjoy listening to Tony n Mike in regards to Scientology. I have to agree with Tony. Wish the government would wake up n investigate this so called religion Scientology. So many lives n families are lost from their love ones. ♥️😊👍

[@ladyluck5703]

SMERSH (a portmanteau of the Russian Smyert Shpionam - Смерть Шпионам - which means "Death to Spies") is a fictional Soviet counterintelligence agency featured primarily in the early James Bond novels by Ian Fleming. I looked it up for everyone... So they literally believed they were fighting SMERSH at one point? Wow.

[@timgreenglass]

SMERSH wasnt fictional.....hubba-hubbard thinking he was battling against it is PURE FICTION (like all of $camotology) but "smersh" existed within the soviet union, up to about 1946.....Stalin coined the name.

[@sweetpealee056]

Thank you! ✌️😁

[@ruthanneseven]

Hubbard's background prior to Scientology is really scandalous. He was buddies with Jack Parsons, who invented solid rockfuel, eventually leading to the formation of NASA. Parsons was a Lodgemaster for Aleister Crowley's (tax exempt) Ordo Templi Orientis in Pasadena, CA. Hubbard became a devotee. They carried on with ridiculous ritual behavior under various delusional goals of magickal manifestations. Crowley claimed contact with his "Holy Guardian Angel, who suspiciously looked like a grey ET. LONG STORY SHORT: Hubbard took the last of Parsons $ to buy a boat for them but stole the boat and Jack's wife. Jack continued his obsession with fuel, blowing himself up in the process. If only Hubbard had stayed for THAT!

[@JeffKnoxAZ]

Not fictional. It was the Soviet counterintelligence organ. The name Smersh was coined by Stalin himself. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMERSH

[@huntsvillewoodturning209]

Incredible series. Thanks guys!

[@reneepolin6549]

AAron Smith Levin has the BEST SPTV you tube channel , Growing up in Scientology . He does daily videos and is Vice President of the Aftermath Foundation

[@DeanandLisa1803]

A-A-Ron 😃

[@coachwilson5967]

As a Catholic, I see some pretty gross similarities to how my church hid, protected, relocated and knowing abetted horrible actions of some Catholic priests...

[@RBzee112]

That's true, but the Catholic Church does a lot of good in the world unlike Scientology.

[@brianpeters5555]

As a Catholic I wonder how people who commit and cover up criminal perversion could ever think there is a place for them in the afterlife.. They know what evil they do, perhaps there will be no place for them anywhere To do what they did and expect God's love is insane

[@johnblood3731]

​@@brianpeters5555there are two places to go. Heaven if you ask for forgiveness or hell if you do not.

[@brianpeters5555]

@@johnblood3731 I guess God forgives but I just don't know anymore

[@aggienodari453]

​@@brianpeters5555 It's the sick people within the institution, not the institution. The doctrine is unwavering, it is the greatest giver of charity and communities, it does the most for the rite to life, responsible for building the western world in terms of education, universities and hospitals. The bummer is, these sickos caused all the good to be overlooked. Everyone has an exit interview and will have to give an answer to their conduct.

[@fourutubez7294]

I'm really enjoying what you're doing with these videos , decided to subscribe for more :)

[@lesevans6567]

And, people who have reached the highest level of scientology. Say, the outcome is disappointing. Because nothing from nothing leaves nothing.

[@cindymiller-flint4698]

Love me some Mike Rowe! Great to find the podcast. Excellent show, Gentlemen. Thanks. 😺

[@viscache1]

“They are making a decision that will take up the rest of their careers”…or end them.

[@southbug27]

I’m disappointed in the jury not finding Danny Masterson guilty for the rape of the Jane Doe that was Danny’s girlfriend. The found him guilty of raping the women who weren’t his girlfriends. It’s as if the jury is saying you can’t rape your gf or wife, which is ridiculous. If I had to guess, I’d bet there are many more rapes against gfs/wives than against strangers. If we can’t wrap our minds around that, then we’ll never be able to stop sexual abuse against women or children. I do know for sure that more kids are molested by family, family friends than by the boogeyman in the bushes.

[@emilynolan187]

No man who commits an act like that against a woman does it only once. If someone ever does something like that to you, unless you are the first, you won't be the only victim

[@goodiesgumdrops1164]

Wish you'd interview Aaron Smith-Levin!

[@mizotter]

YES!

[@CJBW]

And Claire Headley. Mike you’re ignoring the best sources.

[@mattkaustickomments]

Mike, please reach out to Aaron Smith-Levin of Growing Up in Scientology / SPTV movement for in-depth info.

[@CJBW]

Also Claire Headley who reported directly to Shelly Miscavige and knows so much more than Tony who was never in Scientology!!! He has no information compared to those whe were in Sea Org for 20-30 yrs.

[@davidjernigan7576]

Scientology is a tax exempt grift for those in charge.

[@jima4101]

ThNk you for covering this mike

[@teresaevans1205]

The EVIL in this so called "church ", needs to be stopped.

[@travismcdaniel325]

Mike you are awesome man. Love your work in its entirety. In my opinion, the only church I need is one with God. God bless America. I love my country.

[@FYMASMD]

People who believe in “God” believe in extraordinary claims. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Theists have the burden of proof on them not atheists. So you should really look at what you believe.

[@travismcdaniel325]

@@FYMASMD In America Extraordinary is the only thing that exists it would seem. Like a previous generation Acting very narrow minded.

[@PandoraWake]

Thanks Mike!

[@bluewren2]

I never saw Mike Rowe before but immediately admired him.

[@jimivey6462]

Is it possible that the SA victims of Scientology could file a class action lawsuit against the Church of Scientology?

[@randb4865]

Danny Masterson sentencing now rescheduled for September 7th.

[@LarsLarsen77]

I grew up in a new age cult, and it was really interesting watching the documentaries about Scientology because I could see where my cult leader had renamed the same concepts from Scientology as if they were his own ideas.

[@sherryanderson5029]

Did you leave? Is it still practicing

[@tomtomturtleson3546]

Amazing journalism! 👍

[@luminyam6145]

Fantastic interview, thank you.

[@renemiller2924]

You need to talk to Aaron Smith Levin on growing up in scientology. That's his KZbin channel

[@CJBW]

And Claire Headley who answered directly to ShellyMiscavige & thus David Miscavige

[@judymcinnis]

Does anyone know where Shelley is?

[@becauseisaidso6417]

How do people not see in insanity of this cult? Just looking at the buildings alone looks like major red flags! I literally do not understand what the draw is to that cult. I understand they talk a big game, but how do people not see that it’s all smoke and mirrors? A “billion year contract”? Puuhhhleeeze! 🙄

[@zacharyrivera566]

Great interview Mike , very important .

[@J.A.Smith2397]

ROWE FOR PRESIDENT!

[@daeljohnstone4940]

He would be the Best person for the job❤

[@normal_norm2627]

I wonder how much Tom Cruise has given Scientology?

[@robwilgenhof4386]

Thank you very Much Mike ! You do important work. Much more than sales. Your hard earned humanitarian beliefs drives your honest truth seeking initiatives…. That shines through in your conversations… that shed light on important issues… keep it up ! We need you buddy !

[@rtzcoll]

Thank you for information on statutes of limitation.

[@viggycat8592]

Excellent program! I really like you two!❤👏👏👏

[@ConceptMachine]

A RICO Act, type law, should be made for CULTS !

[@annenelson5656]

RICO is difficult to prove and very expensive to litigate. The government wants a RICO case they’re sure they can win.

[@colerobertson6500]

also, how do you define a cult without defining religions that are already accepted and them falling under cult status?

[@sungal1956]

Love Mike Rinder! ❤

[@cathy_clarinet]

Great talk, you guys are great together 👍😁

[@DOC_951]

I just wanna know if their “church” is aware of what a majority of people feel about them… and if they care or understand why everyone hates them so much. Or… if they genuinely believe the things they preach. My suspicious is they probably know it’s bullshit but just can’t admit it.

[@Allergictocatstoo]

They only care about power, control and money.

[@lilwil-ns3uo]

I don't think I'd call the followers "parishioners" but rather prisoners.

[@tonyrobles2696]

Thank you guys For helping👠❤️💥🙏

[@MissPerriwinkle]

bless u tony, stay well !!!!! alwys gr8 when rowe is on. (i remember when ur show was in frisco, saw u once on polk st doin a taping. xoxo) we pray they tax em soon. good gosh.

[@Louisadamson]

The truth is a good thing, even though sometimes it's quite elusive to be caught Tony Ortega on substack is on my list. My respect goes to the effort toward ending this criminal enterprise that is Scientology, probably most comparable to a mafia-type organization. Without permission to plug anything, Sixto Rodriguez died yesterday, August 8th. If there ever was a Bittersweet story of a man's life, his is it. In addition to the Scientology documentary, which I've seen, there's another, respectful to Rodriguez, and from 2013 called "Searching For Sugarman"

[@willisknapick4405]

Whoa! Sorry to hear. I saw the movie and was floored by his demeanor and talent. A welcome story of an American who flew under the radar yet continued making good music.

[@MK-Hogan]

Mike, please speak with Aaron at Growing up in Scientology!

[@michaelhoward3657]

Just visiting Clearwater Beach Florida and you can not come to any other conclusion. CULT . Yes they if a family member falls victim to them and you do not donate to help PAY for their education, you may as well say goodbye.

[@JohnnyMn4monic]

The reason it takes years for them to Q you in on everything, is because the longer they draw it out, the more money they'll get from you and your less likely to walk away. If they tell you ask the BS in 5 mins, you'll probably say "yea ok I'm done", but the longer they take with it, the more mysterious & interesting it sounds

[@dianec690]

Love this channel. Thanks Mike !

[@MsJanaMac]

Tony is the best!!! Love his reporting!!

[@CJBW]

He was NEVER a Scientologist- not the best source- many Scientologists who are out & now speaking out will have nothing to do with Tony due to some of his tactics.

[@ResilientHeart]

@@CJBW Every story matters, Tony passed muster to be on Leah's Aftermath show, I find it interesting Leah has no expressed no issue with him. I no longer support the Aftermath Foundation because of the attacks on Tony, who received Fair Gaming for DECADES, for doing what? Exposing Scientology and telling people's stories. Seems some who have left the cult haven't left the 'destroy them utterly' behind. You're not telling us anything we don't already know, live and let live. I hope you find your way to peace, fulfillment and contentment. There's no comparing who is 'the best source', that sounds kinda culty. These are people's lives, not some voyeuristic joy ride, some people genuinely care about other people's well-being no matter what. That's how we change things, one heart, one precious, precious life at a time. I wish you all the best.

[@CL-we8tn]

There's a saying, ask yourself who you can't criticize, that person has the power.

[@mischiefmanaged444]

Other guests you might consider on the subject would be Aaron Smith-Levin and Marc & Claire Headley. Claire was an expert witness in the Masterson trial.

[@kathysharpe7339]

Please keep the light on. Two deaths that I know as a direct result.