Trek Rail 170mm Mutant Conversion changes everything!

[@CrushedEMTB]

1:30 - Tools needed to build a mountain bike 1:59 - Upgrading drive trains from Shimano XT to SRAM Eagle XO T-type 3:17 - how to change cranks on a Bosch performance CX Gen-4 motor 4:16 - Suspension upgrades 4:45 - Fox DHX2 coil shock install 5:55 - flipping the minno links to even out the bike’s geometry. 6:28 - transferring the headset from one fork to another 6:09 - Fox 38 E-tuned 29er fork install + why I chose this fork. 8:13 - Changing the dropper seat post to a Fox Transfer post 9:01 - Re-installing all the components 9:42 - Bontrager Carbon fiber vs. Line Comp alloy wheels. Is it worth it? 10:33 - Maxxis Minion DHF & DHR 29 x 2.6 install 10:50 - Tannus Armor tubeless inserts 11:49 - Fine-tuning XO T-type derailleur with SRAM AXS app. 12:44 - Speedboat 3.0 install on Bosch Performance Line CX Gen-4 motor. 13:26 - Installing tubeless tire sealant in tire. 13:32 - Testing the bike 15:52 - Final thoughts on all modifications and whether or not it was worth it. *Tools used to build this bike:* Toolbox - amzn.to/3MNPWIT Bike Stand: amzn.to/3QFfhXs Toque wrench: amzn.to/3SopwRj Shock Pump: amzn.to/46Xk1h8 Tire sealant: amzn.to/3QDXsbt 200mm rotors: amzn.to/46U8vTC 203mm Rotors: amzn.to/47fhxKI

[@ivandiazpadilla9231]

excellent video, thank you very much for your teaching. ¿Could you tell me the purchase link where you purchased the Speeboat 3.0?

[@CrushedEMTB]

I got it from the bike shop Cycle therapy in havasu

[@drahoslavhorvath]

Perfect video! Greeting from Slovakia... I have Trek Rail 9.7... your upgrade is my dream

[@TigerRagFishingTeam]

Saved this video. Just ordered mine. Should be a big upgrade for me over my 100/110 Haibike. If stock components aren't enough, I'll come back to reference. Thanks for the video! BTW, I think the orange fork looks bad ass!

[@nadersedaghat5694]

Excellent video. Thr reason the tires were so hard to put on is becuse of the Bontrager tubless strip. Next time take those off and use a regular wheel tape. The tired will go on much easier.

[@CrushedEMTB]

Thanks for the advice!

[@valec1986]

thanks a lot to your answer. yesterday I made suicite with change a tyres without a isners :D

[@jailbreakoverlander]

Well Done I have done the same thing twice, Im rolling to T type 24 9.9 and your is pretty damn serious.

[@10-Man]

Very nice choice re: components especially the drivetrain and DHX II shock!

[@4ryanthomas]

Man when I’m watching you ride my mind starts freaking out for you, lol!! Seriously tho… it’s like an adrenaline rush!!! Very cool!!

[@CrushedEMTB]

The right Emtb will change your life!

[@jailbreakoverlander]

I swapped my rail 9.9 for the T Type and its held it down pretty well. use the epic tuning chip you wont regret it.

[@CrushedEMTB]

I’ll look into it, thanks!

[@duffymoon3716]

Excellent video. Nice work and lovely upgrades.

[@jailbreakoverlander]

Well done My rail 9.9 gen 4 is pretty sick BUT the larger battery seems to drain faster than my old rail 9.8

[@CrushedEMTB]

Sounds like a defective battery. I would get that warranted

[@mrmillingto840]

I did the same things as you to a rail 5. I went mullet though. I love the 27.5 in the back. So much more playful.

[@alexjustme1982]

I would like to do the same to my Trek 9.8 . Can u explain how u did It? Muchas gracias 😌

[@CrushedEMTB]

Thinking about it

[@Stockfish1511]

I have 9.8 gx axs gen 4 rail on its way. I play to do suspension upgrade in the future. It will take time to do the upgrades, but i will buy the parts on sale or something. When i finalise the upgrades it will become an animal of a bike. Ill have my week of remorse until i get my hands on it. Had the remorse when i bought my 9.8 slash last year, but instantly went away when i started riding.

[@ivanbayarri2807]

best bike ever. i bought a trek rail 7 in 2021 the frame got a crack iand i got a carbon fiber frame from trek. i ve upgraded with ohlins suspension srping on the back saint fr 560 axs but what i wanted to ask you is...... have you looked into upgrading the motor and the display. do you think its posible to put in the new bosch, with its display and the bluetooth remote????? will never get rid of this model was the best frame trek has built by far with the 625 batery the large frame is just perfect !!!!!!!

[@JasonMelton-p3p]

I have the same bike and ride in Havasu too. I run the maxxis 3.0 on the front and a 2.8 on the rear

[@CrushedEMTB]

The 3.0 will slow you down

[@growlith6969]

Rob Rides is great, I recall there was a time when he said the Kenevo with the DH fork was the perfect do everything bike. Sounded ridiculous to the average rider, but the logic is simple. If you can easily carry extra because the bike carries it for you, why not bring along big hit suspension? I fell in love with the linear rate coil on my DH bike, but they aren't really recommended for my Levo. So I think that will become the loaner bike, and I will buy or build anything I can get that is close to that magic 200mm of travel. Good edit by the way, the full orchestra music on the ride was a bit much but I doubt many will notice.

[@CrushedEMTB]

I've been eyeing the Kenevo ever since my obsession with EMTBs grows. It may be my next bike.

[@TheBrokenMountainBiker]

@@CrushedEMTB As a kenevo owner I can highly recommend one. Mine runs a mullet wheel setup and I run 190mm of travel at each end. I did this with a Zeb 190mm 29er fork and upping the rear shock from 230X62.5 to 230X65. To say it's a plough through anything weapon would be an understatement! LOL.

[@ivandiazpadilla9231]

excellent video, thank you very much for your teaching. ¿Could you tell me the purchase link where you purchased the Speeboat 3.0?

[@CrushedEMTB]

I actually got it from a bike shop, called cycle therapy in Havasu

[@valec1986]

Hi. I have a same bike like you.rail 7, and made same upgrades to dream X.X axs trek rail. same reccomended tanuss. is perfect inserts. I use pair longer than 4 years, maybe 7 pairs of tyres and is still freshed

[@MonsterChuck]

I have been reading that shock thread over and over...... It is such a mess and I think I leave just as confused as before. No clear consensus on what would fit a Medium Gen 4 carbon outside of prob Fox DHX2 and DVO Jade X. Really interested in Rockshox Vivid (air and coil). And no mention of water bottle clearance on the Mediums either.

[@Paulthenutter34]

I went Fox X2 in the rear and DVO Onyx in the front, Mino in high. The bike is super plush compared to the Rock Shox setup!

[@CrushedEMTB]

I might have to try that shock

[@Emtbtoday]

I'll add a speed box or speedi after my warranty is expired lol the speedi though isn't linked through the system that leaves a trace in the data but you don't hear much about it now its just a case of moving the magnet further from the sensor adding a more powerful magnet to keep the pickup transfer strong

[@Texasbird026]

Looks like the right terrain for a full face helmet

[@CrushedEMTB]

Definitely 👍

[@BLanczak]

Pretty sick edit 🎉. Ballpark what would you think it might cost to replicate?

[@CrushedEMTB]

Almost as much as the bike itself after it's all said and done.

[@AaronMcGrouther]

Should have got the 68ht version of that fox fork. Overbite looks silly.

[@CrushedEMTB]

There were literally none in stock, anywhere. This is actually one of the only E-optimized 170 mm that I could find. But everything’s in stock now so

[@enriquee.k3329]

Great video, I so enjoyed every minute of it, I purchased Rail 9 7 months ago, and am loving it except that rattling sound while doing down hills on rocks and not pedaling, do you know the exact cause of that rattling ? do you think I need to upgrade any of the Rail 9 model 2022 ? Thanks 🙏

[@mattweaver3632]

What is the specific rear shock size you brought to do this? Ie the actual stroke length? The bike tirned out looing stellar

[@valec1986]

@crushedEMTB please what size of frame did you have? I would like a change stock shox to same like you.. rail 7 2023 alu L size

[@frankedoodle3798]

Great video - can I check what chairing you replaced it with? Was it 52 mmm or 55mm chain line? Also does a spacer or o-ring go behind the new chainring? I am working through a list of upgrades now with coil being next, maybe vivid or DHX2. Thanks!

[@CrushedEMTB]

I’m not exactly sure, but Schram has an app that shows you the exact chain length and where to cut it and where to attach it and how to install everything

[@forzer456]

Damn you went all out 😂 congrats the bike looks great. What length did you cut your steerer tube too and what size is your bike.

[@CrushedEMTB]

Thanks! It was size large. I cut it at the stock length of the other tube. It was somewhere around 2 1/2 inches+

[@stianjarnass]

I'm really an amateur considering suspension, but I think Zeb is the best fork. But I would love the kashima coting bling. Great video btw

[@CrushedEMTB]

I would have been fine with a Zeb. The Domain worked really well

[@stianjarnass]

@@CrushedEMTB Yeah I guess it's more than good enough 👏. We're only told we need this and that but entry level has tricle down technology 👏

[@camperp195]

Great vid,really interesting,my advice is not to do carbon rims,my front tyre took a hit,the tyre exploded,and the rim snapped in half,that wouldn’t have happened with a DTswiss 541 alloy rim

[@jailbreakoverlander]

Im not sure on that one my 24 rail came with CF rims and i should have snapped them couple fews times now and they stand.

[@rezabellana7074]

so how much in total you spent + labour time? is it worth? I have rail7 Gen3.

[@recker1]

I live in N. Phx and love your AZ vids. Can you please tell me what hardware I would need to install the DHX2 on my Rail 9.7? I can not find anywhere what I would need to mount the shock to my Rail. I currently have a RockShox Air. Thank you in advance and keep the vids coming.

[@CrushedEMTB]

Give cycle therapy in Lake Havasu a call. They are the most adapt to this problem. I don’t know personally I just took what they told me and it worked.

[@pyao2x]

What is the rear shock stroke of the new rear shock? 230x65?

[@aidilnooradnan8351]

it was stated 62.5mm

[@ebikesandthings]

Hi, so I just ordered the 2022 Fox Factory Float X2 230x57.5 and same fork as you. If I flip that chip will I have more travel ? Or I need the coil setup ?

[@CrushedEMTB]

You need the same length shock/coil with a longer stroke. It’s the longer stroke that gives you more travel, and the links help even out the geometry.

[@ebikesandthings]

@@CrushedEMTB so what stroke length did you get ?

[@aidilnooradnan8351]

165mm rear according to the video

[@chubv]

Which frame size is the bike?

[@colincarter3529]

Hi great video but are you sure you can micro adjust for each gear?

[@CrushedEMTB]

I’m absolutely positive. With the app you can do anything.

[@Petermcpete]

love the bike and upgrades by man that chainring protector is ugly!! takes me back to the Gamut one from back in the day!! Nice vid though Mike.

[@CrushedEMTB]

I upgraded it. I made a short about it. I made a custom one.

[@chrisroberts3963]

Love it. The rear shock you NEED to get is a Push ElevenSix! You think the bike is good now but it will be transformed with the ElevenSix. It’s to shocks in one. With a flick of a lever the shock goes from ultra efficient for climbing to ultra plush to eat up the descents. The shock is specially tuned for you and the bike. Made here in Colorado! I haven’t messed with e-bikes yet so this was a cool video. How much does the bike weigh? Do you feel the weight on the climbs?

[@CrushedEMTB]

I think the bike is around 53-53lbs. I once has a race XC hard tail that only weighted 21lbs. The Trek Rail climbs better than it! I'll look into the PUSH shock.

[@dwb8783]

EXT shock over Push.

[@Fettschlauch]

Nice work. How heavy are you Witz Equipment and which spring did you use?

[@CrushedEMTB]

I’m 210 and I think it was a 400lb spring

[@jasonrudnicki2024]

Is the Fox Float X the same length as the DH2? 230 x 62.5?

[@CrushedEMTB]

I'm pretty sure. I almost went with a float, but didn't use it because I liked the coil so much.

[@elisiomelo2899]

60 or 65 Stroke. Not 62.5

[@allangreig244]

What exactly size was that floor shock rear

[@wallacebarros6817]

Do u have any problem on using 58mm crown on trek rail? Do u think it can cause any looseness on the bearings?

[@CrushedEMTB]

No, I didn’t see any problem with it. It’s still e-tuned and covers the whole bearing bottom just like the bigger crown wood. The only thing with that is aesthetics it doesn’t look as clean, but who cares

[@antoniomontejano]

Si tienes algunas partes que ya no ocupes y quieras donarme las te lo agradecería mucho

[@davewallace9048]

Is the mulant an option?

[@CrushedEMTB]

No, you have to make it that way

[@Oguum]

Total cost of the upgrades? ;)

[@CrushedEMTB]

Like twice what the bike was initially

[@eriotero8397]

Wow

[@r3gflm916]

Ditch the inserts, slowing you down taking away the responsive carbon feel, your already on an enduro casing, wide tires, etc.

[@CrushedEMTB]

I agree. The inserts make the rear tire feel sluggish.

[@hannes6114]

His rear tire is Exo and wobbles...