Abandoned Backhoe hasn't run for 10 years - Will it start?? Part 1

[@amandaharris1413]

That solenoid on the forward and reverse shaft is a clutch cut out solenoid it's for when you're loading trucks with the loader you can raise the bucket easier and faster

[@kalefree6007]

Amanda Harris damn look at u

[@igorschmidlapp6987]

Basically, a PTO switch...

[@liyustuli2031]

Hai

[@edauvaa1730]

Get a digger operator to move it for you.

[@shamrazbilal8955]

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[@happychappy5135]

New to the channel. What a guy he can put his hands to anything. Love the unscripted scenes... genuine person... Thanks from UK. 👍👍👍

[@peterwilson4546]

I have a 77 580c. Would run for 10 mins, then ran rough. Changed both filters.bled, has run right ever since. If you are rrepacking the swing cylinders, they can be done without removing from machine. I used my case to build my barn and other heavy jobs on my 8 acres. Great machine.

[@mikekisch5563]

good to know

[@outlawflyer7868]

Man I love it when people find stuff out in the middle of nowhere and bring it back to life.

[@BackyardMechCon]

There's no better feeling 😊.

[@cleitonthomazini8796]

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[@DanKoning777]

You'd love "Marty T's" channel then-he lives on an island in New Zeeland, and when you're surrounded by water you tend to find machinery that was either abandoned by the owner and now being sold [like in this video], or simply abandoned. Here's the channel: www.youtube.com/@MartyT

[@JDT-tk5fu]

Glad I found your videos. I just purchased a 580C also. Runs and drives just has several hydraulic leaks that need attention and also no brakes so will be paying close attention in those videos.

[@mikekisch5563]

i guess the brakes are a common problem on these machines. i fixed mine and they are still working well good luck

[@morecowbell20]

I also have a 580C and same, several hydraulic leaks and the brakes need work before I tackle a downhill side cut. Stumbled across this series and am inspired! Not even skipping ahead to the brake video. Thanks Mike!!

[@mikekisch5563]

@@morecowbell20 it glad hear from you'

[@TheCuriousOrbs]

I was anxious wondering whether you put water in the machine prior to moving it. Couldnt enjoy the second half because all I could think about was the dry running water pump and rapidly climbing temp gauge

[@tujuprojects]

They do heat quickly. I once pulled v-belt since i thought it was not needed, but actually the fan hub was also a water pump and it started cookiing after a minute or so.

[@richardtharp1608]

My Ford 655 A extendahoe sat for 8 years out in the Weather with the Head Off.. Locked the Motor Down and Rusted the threads out of the Block at the Head Bolts.. I Rebuilt the Engine with Thread inserts at all of the Head bolt Locations and New 0.030 over Pistons.. Rebuilt the Shuttle Shift transmission while the Block was Out.. Had less than 6000 in the Whole hole with the New Rebuild on the Engine.. Worked with it and Made Enough to buy a Dump truck and Build a Great trailer to Haul it.. Made 3 times what I paid for it over the years and then Sold the Whole lot for 10,000 .. Like to Have an Excavator Deal like that Come along Right Now.. Thanks, Richard

[@dansmith8458]

I bought a 1987 JD 410B Turbo 2 years ago for $2,500. Rebuilt the engine, re stabbed it to find out the trans was shot, rebuild that and it ran great, 10 months later the turbo took a dump (was iffy to start) Bunch of hoses and misc stuff later I am into a Backhoe for $8,000. I love it. Currently have the swing cyl 's off for a repack and bushing replacement Worthy investment. Mine is prob worth $15,000-20,000

[@craigpalmer5693]

That's machine out there long time hope you get it started new clutch get out out there get moving back or forth awesome video keep up the good job men bless you

[@hunter7476]

good job it nice to see people like you bring back old machinery

[@jamessimpkins433]

LOL ....Abandoned backhoe hasn't run for 10 years - Will it turn off???

[@superflanker972]

Seriously?🤣🤣🤣

[@larrymeyers6913]

Got a 69 case 580 ck backhoe tha6 sat in a guys backyard for 3 years and he was suprised it started right up after about turning over 10 or 15 times. Been a good tough backhoe except hydraulic lines are old and keep blowing out . Good luck on your project

[@tsgt97]

Wow I just want to say thank you for the opportunity to learn more about case tractors

[@ourlifegottoloveit4419]

Man I love what you are doing , I just got a 1967 580 CK that needs lots of work lol, and I have no idea what i'm doing I want to get a repair manual but dont know what to get can you recommend one ? I just want to dig a pond but got to get my backhoe working right first thanks and added points if you can tell me the steps to prim the fuel injectors to get it to start I ran out of gas (no gauges) but it runs when it has gas !!!!!! thank you for your videos love them !!!!!

[@mikekisch5563]

ebay or you can buy a pdf file from the internet. to prime i just loosen the lines on the injector and crank until fuel comes out then retighten them. I have run out of fuel before and i just cranked for a minute and it started up without bleeding the lines. good luck i dug a pond with mine as well.

[@ourlifegottoloveit4419]

@@mikekisch5563 thank you sir , so the lines on the injector pump not on up by the block or does that matter again thank you sir very much

[@mikekisch5563]

@@ourlifegottoloveit4419 on the top of the injector. you want the highest possible connection point to blead the air out otherwise you are just introducing more air into the line i have run out of diesel and didnt have to bleed the lines but its certainly not a bad idea to bleed the air out.

[@ourlifegottoloveit4419]

@@mikekisch5563 thank you sir that makes sense

[@steveransley7227]

Great to hear the engine going, good job.

[@darkwing4475]

I would like to see you repair the shuttle,,, Having it transported to your shop is wise,,, A case backhoe is an awesome machine,, It took me about 3 months for the rear bucket of my case 580 to became like an extension of my arm,,, From the video it did not appear that you have very much experience. I think that you will enjoy becoming proficient at using your new machine,,, Later on, you can acquire an 8 or 10 yard dump truck and trailer,,, :-)

[@mikekisch5563]

i am glad for the comment. i wasn't use to the case controls.

[@morecowbell20]

Same with me, wasn't long and the digging controls just reacted to my brain. Was awesome therapy after a bad day at the office.

[@justina249]

I love the old case 580s and a big fan of the cat 416 first model. Its what my dad taught me on. I will own one someday

[@jakealter5504]

My dad has one that isn’t running right now, it’s an old Case 580BCK

[@justina249]

@@jakealter5504 that is awesome i hope he gets it running

[@jakealter5504]

@@justina249 same here, it needs to have its engine rebuilt

[@petelyczek5728]

First: water and oil. Second: extend outriggers and figure out the gears.

[@AttitudeAdjuster]

Did you end up figuring the diff lock on this machine, On one of your videos you mentioned something about it but then I didn't see anything about it in the video? Cheers Garry from Australia

[@mikekisch5563]

I didnt get it working it was missing some linkage

[@AttitudeAdjuster]

@@mikekisch5563 Oh Bugger, I just bought a loader version and it really needs to have the lock working or it just sits and spins up one wheel, Its muddy here at the moment so I have not been under there to see, Can you tell me at all what the actuator is for it, is it the Hex thing through the floor because I can't see anything else there that I think it could be? I really enjoyed your series on it and thanks for making it as I have brake issues too and it only just arrived yesterday so I have not started looking at the repairs yet Cheers Garry

[@leegenix]

I operated an earlier model with no roll cage for a reclamation district that was stingy on repairs and maintenance. I am pretty sure the 580(C) is in better condition than the one I used. It was beat to hell and so was the rest of the equipment that were so old, they should have been placed in museums. Some irrigation pumps dating back to circa 1915. The welder in the shop was an old Lincoln arc style with a mercury pool rectifier vacuum tube that lit up blue when using the stinger. My high school electronics teacher told me about them and I actually saw and used one. Yeah, I mean really old and cheaply run that place was.

[@jakealter5504]

What model backhoe was it? What year?

[@bennyogden4524]

Hey man I'm from Amarillo Texas and I really like your videos now so stay with it

[@dispatch444]

I wonder if the spark you heard was your vice grips grounded out on the frame when you completed the circuit trying to connect the neg cable

[@farmworkMi]

I look forward to seeing the shuttle shift video I'd love to learn all about it as well as packing the cylinders awesome work

[@robertcrume3546]

YOU GOT it started & moved. sitting isn't very good for things

[@jonathanfisher7017]

DID YOU THINK ABOUT CHECKING TO SEE IF IT WAS IN NEUTRAL BEFORE TURNING IT OVER?

[@mikekisch5563]

no i didn't.

[@morecowbell20]

Those won't even turn over if the shuttle is in anything but neutral.

[@Monz-jy9hl]

I also found backhoe same like this in my village..abandoned in 16years in the woods..

[@arnoldromppai5395]

well I stopped the video soon as it fired up, to say, I really hope he didn't put gas in the tank, as he said he was going to get some gas in it, as it sure don't sound like a gas engine, both the 580 B and C were not gas, I found a 580B sitting on an island that people lived on year round, it was parked in the bush with a poplar tree growing up though it, has I nice cab and all on it, good turf tires on the back, I asked around who owned it, this was in March, and I drove across the lake on the ice road, people told me it belonged to the town ship, and it been sitting there for 5 years or more. I went to the town ship office and asked about it, they told me it stopped driving and there shop mechanic told them it would cost far to much to fix, I asked if they would sell it, as I know the problem with these 580B and C when they stop driving, specially when they told me, when you put it in forward, it jumps a head an inch or 2, and when put in reverse it jumps back an inch or 2 and stops, it is a commune problem with these, and a simple day fix, but many pull the transmission out and rebuild it at a huge cost, when it don't need that at all, so I asked if they would sell it, they told me if I can get it off the island before the ice was no longer safe to drive on, I can have it for $500, and they also had a good set of construction back tires for it as well as the service manual that covers all the 580 models, so I dumped the fuel out of it, changed filters, and it fired up after 5 turns and stopped, I bleed the system and a way it went, I let it warm up, and changed the oil and filter, then started it up, and pushed it out to the road with the backhoe, then got a flat bed to pick it up and hall it 180 miles to my home for $300 as they had to go to my town to pick up a insurance car they bought, it sat in my yard for a year, before I got around to work on it, all the backhoe bucket pins and bushings needed to be cut out and new ones welded in, but first was to get it to drive, I spent a few hours a day here an there working on getting it fixed so it would drive, spent about $300 in new oil and a few dollars on a few small parts and peace's and had it driving in 2 weeks, total time spent, was about 12 hours, been working great ever since. well back to the video..

[@mikekisch5563]

i like your story. I put diesel in it not gasoline.

[@arnoldromppai5395]

that's good, I have seen in real life people put gas in,, and when you said gas, it brought bad the seens… lol, the service manual they gave me covers all the 580 models, it is a huge book, weight about 12 Lbs. I loved the great deal I got, all because there top mechanic told them it needed a full transmission re-build, so they bought a new backhoe, you see all the 580 are the same problem, case never made a clean out for the sump oil pick up, so you make one with a drill bit and 1" tap, 1" pipe plug, use a parts air cleaning spray gun

[@jayleija6406]

Arnold Romppai I could use some insight, I just bought a 580b. And got some issues. My shuttle works but seems to stop working as it heats up. But it will still reverse. Also it will fire right up and shut right back off then take forever to start up again just to die again

[@shaverdave3644]

You have to have low rpms to change manual transmission. I have a 580 ck early 1970 model . Great old machine have moved a lot of dirt.

[@johnhalter7287]

I guess I have started a1000 tractors left for junk in my life. I never thought it would become popular to watch in a million years.

[@nvlvdave]

Good work, nice machine. Hope you can get her goin 100% again.

[@jp-um2fr]

U.K. Anyone can mend anything if you throw enough money at it. It's more interesting to watch someone who needs to look after the pennies (sorry - cents) . I have subscribed, only just found your channel. Please do another vid and if you already have I'm about to find it. You certainly put up a good fight getting that bugger out - well done that man.

[@tigerwoodz8711]

Was there even hydraulic fluid on it? how did you raise the boom and bukets? You didn't show us that

[@mikekisch5563]

i put 5 gallons of fluid in it. I have alot of video i didnt post. i was trying to keep it some what entertaining.

[@tigerwoodz8711]

@@mikekisch5563 Well good luck on restoring that ol rig. Post the finl product once its done. Im sure you can get a few more years out of it. Did you fix the transmission and replace the hoses. It seems like that was what it really needed

[@byronf.bingham6291]

Use the bucket on the front of the tractor. Tip the cutting edge down and use it to pull or push the tractor forward or back.

[@arnoldromppai5395]

as you can see he is using the backhoe to pull it out of the bush, he just not that good at it, so it is slow going for him, the loader bucket is far to slow then using the long reach of the backhoe

[@byronf.bingham6291]

Just a suggestion. I have a Case 480 E LL that I had trouble with on the shuttle shifter. My tractor doesn't have the backhoe. The LL stands for Land Leveler. Thank You

[@highway445]

I loved running them old 580's. Had one at one time.

[@spikeharvey6464]

my grandfather used to own a backhoe just like this one an old case. that "choke" you pulled to shut it off is the actual shut off to the engine and not a choke

[@johnhalter7287]

Fuel shut off to pump

[@jonkwin9620]

If you want to check a motor that has been sitting for water in it - first pull the dipstick, if the oil is way high then there's probably water under it. If it's high, or no dipstick then crack the sump drain plug let a little out, if it's oil - re-tighten . if you get water just wait till oil starts coming out. It's no use putting a stick in there, as the oil coats all of it that was in water as you pull it out.

[@scottfeatherstone7156]

Very impressive getting it running and moving.

[@deepakshinde8224]

Which power your having that you are starting abounded things

[@localcrew]

Dang backhoe started easier than the line trimmer.

[@mikekisch5563]

thats funny

@@mikekisch5563 What state are you in Mike?

[@mikekisch5563]

@ oklahoma

[@bicycleengineering]

Hi Mike have really enjoyed watching you rebuild this machine .do you happen to know if this model uses coolant or just a rust inhibitor ? Or if anyone else knows im using it in a hot tropical part of northern Australia.

[@mikekisch5563]

I use antifreeze/coolant where we live it gets well below freezing.

[@shanepersons383]

Damn good machine!! With some tlc ran many of them in my day!! 👍

[@Channel4029]

Show everything as you go through it!

[@rustychevy7035]

Cover the air intake or stall the engine with the clutch to stop the engine

[@--Mike--]

How to stall the engine if you can't get it into gear? After all he DID cover up the intake. I just wont to it with my bare hands (like he did), because this easily can hurt a lot.

[@TheMechanicDave]

Can’t wait to see the updates

[@ralphsnow2337]

There's 3 solenoids that controls the forward natural reverse. The reverse one is not getting power or its bad.

[@atvmx46]

Make sure to drain the fluid in the torque converter. I bought a 580 Super E that needed a new converter because the old fluid had gummed up.

[@mammoth6369]

Hi, are there mechanisms ready to work for sale

[@mikekisch5563]

No

[@donwhite8632]

I’m not criticizing any one I really enjoy videos but,why does everyone who finds the machines. Never have hot batteries both for ratchet and the motor for piece of equipment

[@Nudnik1]

Re boot the computer scan for codes. Borg Warner reverser powershift trans with a torque converter. Very simple to fix

[@benjybaldwin773]

I'm really trying to figure out what you're doing toward the end their playing with the backhoe instead of just driving it out

[@mikekisch5563]

reverse doesnt work.

[@gilligansisland5852]

When you can't turn it off block the air flow off

[@chromedome1120]

Great video ! I hope you keep em coming on that machine , it was a beast in its day!

[@axeman6560]

Good work, using the bucket to push it out.

[@coltongarber8087]

My Uncle Jason has a 580E and think to put his backhoe in first gear it's forward to the left. It should be the same on a 580C

[@larryfromlincolncountywa3989]

Good intentions, for sure. However, it seems to me that "pre-run" check should have included putting water in the radiator and at least a preliminary wiring check to insure no fire hazards (and how to turn the ignition on/off).

[@mikekisch5563]

I really didnt think it would start right up. The only wire connected was the main wire from battery to the starter.

[@pup734]

surplus center for hydraulic lines will save tons of money on them

[@rodolfoplasencia4953]

Plan A: Funny. Plan B: Super funny. Lol. Amazing bro!

[@gabrielmartins66642]

Aqui no Brasil a CASE chegou com a 580H

[@jonahwalsh9342]

Good job on the backhoe keep up the good work

[@kevingrainger2530]

Well done sunshine, good job.

[@rickycarter1142]

Looks like you got a few butterflies.

[@Quacks0]

42:51 Love da hummingbird there in da lower right-hand corner of the picture; maybe it was attracted to the bright-red bucket-lid, thinking it was a flower-blossom? Just like nectar-feeders for them are red.

[@genefoster9821]

Looking forward to an update

[@edwarddherde9536]

The park break handel is up push that down if you haven't already those case bakehoes are tanks

[@mikekisch5563]

good observation. I dont know if the video showed, but the reverse cable was disconnected

[@kebin760]

If the transmission is low on oil it will not move in reverse. Make sure it’s full. If it still fails the solenoids needs to have a diode. Also could be a o-ring inside the transmission witch you would need to split the tractor to fix. I’ll be watching! Great job getting the old girl going again!

[@HiddenValleyHomestead]

WOW! 145,000 views!! Nice job!

[@gerlandkent6377]

its, got hydraulic steering. and it's got to be running before you can move it on its own.

[@nrth-ng9sm]

you have to let that hydraulic fluid warm up before you even move it. at least 15 minutes.

[@hunter7476]

yes it is thick and works pumps hard thats how they get worn if you take care of the machine it will take care of and last a good long time

[@heithdotysadventures7824]

Both truth ✔🖒

[@jakealter5504]

Not always, I didn’t always have to wait that long for my dad’s backhoe (a case 580B from the early to mid 1970’s) to be able to move. Usually it only needed 5-10 minutes to warm up

[@dadtasticskills3948]

Give ya an A for effort, that things a potential work horse.

[@jakealter5504]

My dad actually has a similar backhoe but his is a case 580B from the early to mid 1970’s

[@robdavies7]

Lets hope you can get it home for a reasonable sum ! and hope the shuttle can be sorted from 'outside' ;-)

[@mikekisch5563]

500 is what it cost to get home and i pulled the trans apart. the service manual says that reverse seals were a likely cause. I ordered a seal kit.

[@100gpdriver]

If at first there is no reverse Rev rev and rev again and eventually check your fluid and filters and actuactors and anything else in the drive train. But dont forget the advisory Rev break this can be as often as you deem necessary

[@Masterkill45588]

Man that thing dialed right to life just gotta sort the drivetrain

[@B0BB0Y45]

I really enjoyed your video, please keep trying with it.

[@ltdees2362]

😎 I like your enthusiasm...Plan...A❕

[@tomjohntig]

You will get it Mike and soon it will be part of the fleet still waiting for the butterflies lol it was close real close “ poor little mouse “ lol. Cheers Mike looking forward to the next instalment merry Christmas and a safe 2021 🇬🇧🇬🇧 John

[@gerlandkent6377]

it's got to be running before the steering works on it. it don't have a steering gear box

[@expatconn7242]

Nice score. Been looking .. no luck

[@scottforslund8813]

I have a 1970 International Tractor diesel backhoe. Let it sit too long and now engine is froze up. Hope to get it broke loose next summer and start using it again.

[@1armedguy4]

Very easy to get it moving by pushing with the bucket !

[@jerrybootneck1736]

I used to operate the J.I.Case digger back in the 80's and it's one powerful solid machine. Good luck with getting it to the condition you want it.

[@georgepretnick4460]

Are you stealing this backhoe? If not, why the whispering?

[@damonabets3779]

George Pretnick because he dose not want to scare lol

[@my83roadster4me]

He doesn't want to draw attention from bigfoot. If bigfoot hears him he will have more to worry about than getting the backhoe running.

[@cobrellie]

What the hell was all that whispering about ....

[@nojhampton]

Not heard of "The tractor whisper"

[@johnnyfordjr2253]

Well seems he a soft speaker dam loud ass weed eater sure would give him away

[@anytractorman]

Cool, sneaking up on it!

[@SPUDHOME]

I think maybe your “in my mind process didn’t make a complete circle. Starting it and then, how do i shut it off. Some people consider. What if it is a runaway? Before the starting. Lucky job

[@josh33025]

You could stop it just put the bucket down for brakes ive had to do that a couple of times before with machines.

[@briankennedy5578]

I used a international b275 for years without brakes. Don't really need them on a tractor. They don't go that fast. And if need be, dropped the bucket. And with this, you got a hoe. Very good brake , not that you could reach it driving .

[@fredlui3900]

You are a top mechanic

[@fastst1]

sitting a long time you might have to reseal more than a few rams, you want the OTC tool that works with a 3/4 breaker bar, pull the little phillips screw and remove the cylinder gland for resealing. I rebuilt my 73 and it took a full day to split the tractor, the reverse and forward clutch packs were thrashed, it was, back 20 years and they were $400 each. But it was a reasonable job with the service manual. Check your pressures and the trans filter out front (for metal)

[@RonR1]

You parked it in the bushes and then became a 10 year time traveler. LoL

[@ChileExpatFamily]

I do not miss poison ivy. We do not have Poison ivy or wasps. Nice buy. Jim in Chile.

[@9HighFlyer9]

Ok, I'll buy the lack of poison ivy in Chile. However I'm 100% certain Chile has wasps.

[@ChileExpatFamily]

HighFlyer nop. Yellow jackets. But no wasps. I have lived here for 7 years. Jim

[@9HighFlyer9]

@@ChileExpatFamily well besides the fact that yellow jackets are wasps blog.bigbelly.com/battling-the-wasps-with-bigbelly-in-parque-metropolitano-in-santiago-chile

[@9HighFlyer9]

@@ChileExpatFamily facebook.com/InsectsofChile/photos/a.207765436090224.1073741831.207690659431035/207765769423524/?type=3

[@ChileExpatFamily]

HighFlyer I don’t do Facebook

[@Quacks0]

15:13 You should not have hooked up the negative (ground) battery-cable first; to avoid worry about ground-shorts when making connections, hook up the positive cable first, then the negative one.

[@frankdeegan8974]

Change the fluid in the shift and clean the screen.

[@anthonyyoung7344]

Um that's a C model it's a straight shift transmission it's got a clutch I have worked on a blue million of them my dad is a case tech for over 30 years

[@robertb6120]

would of been cheaper to fix the barks where you bout it at i would think the guy would have let you do that so you can drive it home ?

[@mikekisch5563]

i agree I wanted to road it home and almost did, but the power steering had a lot of issues as well as all the leaks in the cylinders i would have run the hydraulic pump dry.

[@nbooker7504]

I appreciate the mouse footage man nothing like watching nature . And nice little bonus

[@gerlandkent6377]

to turn it off with out a key pull the battery cable

[@kokxluke7063]

Should have put the rear tires in the air to get them moving then drove away

[@paulsawake3369]

I'm watching and thinking the same thing. Lol. I even yelled, "LIFT THE REAR END UP!" lol.

[@sargentsakto9236]

Why do people always leave these pieces of equipment with nothing covering the exhaust. But hey, the fuel tank has a lock. The only thing that for sure screws up a motor real good is water running into it for years.

[@shanewilson5582]

What a pile of junk and what a good way to blow $2800 on a pile of scrap metal 😂😂😂

[@mrgoodtimes05]

I believe that solenoid is connected to the cutout button on the front bucket joystick

[@embreesmith7613]

Brakes ..?? that's a fun job !!

[@jerrykegel2678]

Good Luck Fella.

[@charlescastle5566]

Wow, that will be an awesome backhoe when you get the bugs worked out.