Abandoned Backhoe Transmission Repair Will it be a Fail or Success? Part 4

[@roygabriel.2753]

Well done we couldn’t miss the smile on your face and the relief when it moved. Onward and up would. You will be digging up a living in no time.

[@ابوامجد-س8و]

ارجو ان يكون الشرح بالغا العربيه

[@JourneymanRandy]

I rebuilt the shuttle trans on my 580K about 12 years ago. It looks the same. I put a new pump in and new clutch packs and all the seals. It still works great. Good video

[@mikep95133]

Thanks so much for showing us the rebuild and installation process of your shuttle shift trans !! Glad you succeded !!!

[@DaleDirt]

Awesome job Mike , Thanks for taking the time yo film this

[@mrbussey]

Very nice rebuild. Can't believe how small the transmission is! I guess I expected everything to be big compared to the overall machine.

[@tectalabyss]

Thank you for keeping us informed on this series. Both my transmissions are huge. And I have six or more cylinders to repack. I feel for you. Keep the videos coming. I Liked,Shared,Added to playlists. All my best.

[@mikekisch5563]

the cylinders are pretty easy it takes about 45 minutes each with no problems

[@tectalabyss]

@@mikekisch5563 one of the cylinders I have to fix has been welded. That's on the John deere 300 and the parts are hard to find MF 50A , the one I nicknamed the brute makes two of the John deere. It's a Massey Ferguson 50A both are old and need a lot of love : ) All my best.

[@pauldemeules9927]

Wow this was very helpful since I am looking at a Case 580B with Shuttle Shift issues. Motor is strong and rebuilt I think I can handle the process you went through to get it running again.

[@anytractorman]

It works! Great job. Must have been a relief when it moved. Keep going.

[@kingplumber]

I put the guide studs in a vice and cut a slot in the end so I can use a screwdriver to retrieve. I also put a slight bevel on the outward ends. God bless you.

[@Mongomongo333]

The thing looks like a Velvet Drive marine transmission. Nice job!

[@chuckinwyoming8526]

Things are looking better. Starting to look like you may have a good machine! I was impressed with the improvements case made in the 580 transmission design from my 1966 and 1967 580 Construction King. When I got the 1966 the power shuttle and clutch pressure relief spool valve were really bad with bits of metal and broken springs from the power shuttle clutch assembly. Much easier to work on the newer design. But I got it working and put another 11,000 hours on the 1966. When totally worn out with over 36,000 hours I got the 1967 which was in a lot better shape. It is great to have 2 nearly identical machines with spare parts to rob and keep the best one running. Did a job yesterday and the 52 year old hoe still works great! Just take the time to service the equipment, don't abuse them and they keep doing the work! Thanks Mike!!

[@fastst1]

ayep, start by removing the hoe, then the rear axle, 4spd gearbox then into the shuttle. I'm still using mine but yes both clutch packs were roached. I think mine is a 1970, still going strong. No hour meter as someone swapped in a tractor distributor.

[@michelboisvert5684]

for a guy who doesn't know anything about transmission I think you're not too bad, for me I think you know a lot more than you're saying, good luck.

[@ww321]

Thanks for making this video. I'm getting ready to do my 480c . This was helpful and encouraging 👍

[@Jakesnake9419]

Do you ever do your? I just bought a 480c and having some issues

[@ww321]

@@Jakesnake9419 no haven't got to it yet

[@flamingskoda]

Good effort fixing the transmission. Greetings from the UK

[@MRrwmac]

Congratulations! Complicated but you got it done and it works!

[@rodolfoplasencia4953]

Bro you did it, great deal and great fixes! Please donate video on wiring and connecting some or all you did. A least telling us where do you connect which cable so we know how to wire for ex. the ignition, and every gauge you installed like I believe oil pressure, etc. Thank you, we're learning here!

[@WatchWesWork]

You might want to have the injectors tested. It sounds like it's missing. Nice work on the shuttle.

[@CSSIandAssociate]

Listen to Wes he knows what he is talking about.

[@okiefamily9244]

Literally said “Bless you!” out loud at 21:38.

[@amossnowdaharleyman9179]

nice $45.00 fix! No reverse means cheap purchase price on the unit. Very good find and job.

[@Mad.Man.Marine]

Anyone else ether think or say bless you when he sneezed lol

[@jlucasound]

I read your post before I started the video and forgot. Instinctively I said "Bless You" when he sneezed. Instantly I remembered your post. I think Mike is blessed already. He found this machine for dirt cheap and he is going to bring it back to it's full potential. Case is an excellent brand. I don't think time has done anything to this backhoe that Mike can't deal with. He is going to get many years of use out of this or flip it for a very handsome markup. Sorry Mike, for talking to this commenter behind your back. ;-)

[@PapaJ5667]

I did and my fiancee' looked at me like i was crazy ....lol

[@josh33025]

Nice job looks to be coming together well.

[@shepherd1006]

Good job will be waiting on the next one.

[@bricehoogenboom6483]

Does control valve come out on solenoid side or right side? Having issues but want to check valve before ripping out whole shuttle.

[@rockeerockey6941]

Great job Mike, I'm enjoying the vids

[@robdavies7]

Well done mate ! a big feather in your cap ! ;-) :-)

[@gerlandkent6377]

its, a blessing.🙏

[@morgansword]

I had the worst time getting the trans disconnect with the brake pedal adjustment just right so it didn't clunk in and out of gear as when you step on the brake, everything works but forwards and back. That is so you can ease into something and then step on the brake and throttle up to say lift or whatnot as it is such a fine line between right and wrong. I had air in one wheel cylinder and it just didn't say go here and the troubles are over, nope, a fight was in process with me and it... the stubborn in me won after several rounds. Never so happy as to see things finally go my way. I found that the "O" rings are more important than say the clutches or any band locks that worked on the park system. A lot of the stuff had been bypassed before me so finding and fixing was a uphill battle. Now a trip to the store for clothes line rope if it is the type that takes the rope seals in he ends of the packing on the cylinders

[@ceritadunia3353]

Hello friend.my shuttel shift not have a neutral why?and move forward working to pull everything very power fulll,but when reverse, backhoe not power why,can u explain to me? hoping u can answer me.. thankfully...

[@Georgiametcalfsmerkin]

These videos are great!

[@KevinBenecke]

A good welding rig will take care of that. I don't know if I missed it. But what was the problem that reverse didn't work in the first place? I was looking at that tire at 23:20. Is it flat or just in a hole?

[@vernchaput6368]

When you had Trans apart you should have polished all the steels with fine Emory paper sheets (like 400 grit). Clean is king!

[@pm270100]

good job well done i have done a bit of this so well done

[@TheWondersOfEurope]

Great video!! I enjoyed it very much! Thanks

[@kululv]

good video! but I only heard talking about the front clutch, which was good. but somehow i missed the rear clutch. what was wrong and when did you fix it?

[@mikekisch5563]

All i had to do was replace the seal on the rear clutch. per service manual enough fluid was getting past it to not engage the rear clutch.

[@stevezwemer1262]

Good show mate !

[@srmixalot1764]

Awesome job I can't wait til the next video

[@alemaomecanica1596]

Im from Brazil 👍👏👍

[@expatconn7242]

Nice job 👍

[@steveransley7227]

Great job enjoyed watching thanks

[@bxb590]

Okay, I have to know the rest of the story. I'll subscribe. Good Job !!!!!

[@rotex380]

Nice job Mike 👍

[@munched55]

When they recommend 40-50 ft/lbs, if I were you I'd split the diff. 45ft/lbs. That's my guess. ;)

[@davesaam4308]

What did it take to take the trans out? Break the tractor?

[@mikekisch5563]

i think a half a dozen bolts and a few lines and remove the driveshaft

[@charlestackett7137]

Great video, except the music sound track.

[@markmckinley5989]

So was the issue a leaking seal or the rusting clutches causing the unit to bind up?

[@mikekisch5563]

the manual said fluid was leaking past the seals, so i think the seals, but im not 100%. i just know it works now.

[@warrenmichael918]

reverse to forward looks smooth, forward to reverse looks a little rough. Maybe it was just the way it looked on video. usually fast shifts between forward to reverse are fairly smooth and vice versa..

[@gregbutler9873]

@@mikekisch5563 Yes I thought you had a reverse clutch leaking ... tractor moves forward and not in reverse because the planetary shifts/moves forward but not reverse, that seal leaks . One little nick on a seal/o-ring and you lose that required pressure to the solenoid that will allow the planetary to shift from forward to reverse. I have rebuilt/repaired every transmission , torque convertor , and planetary drive from D 6-11 crawler type tractors , 24 H road graders , and 797 off highway trucks and I have seen everything from a missing plug in a planetary causing a complete tear down . to finding a leg off a pair of blue jeans in the suction stub on a 797 torques convertor .

[@farmall1farmall132]

All internal wear parts I would have changed while in there that's alot of work to go through and not change everything ..

[@BarnyardEngineering]

It would have been prudent yes, but how much $$$? Time's "free" when it's your own and the parts looked serviceable so why sink a bunch of money into it if you don't have to? Not like it's going to be a frontline everyday heavy use machine.

[@farmall1farmall132]

@@BarnyardEngineering even if I don't use the machine daily or its not a showroom piece if I'm in there I'm changing it.. I want every piece of equipment I own reliable and not questionable because when I need it i need it. Maybe your time is free but mines extremely valuable and I wouldn't want to spend it repeatedly doing something I could have resolved the first time.

[@robertmencl9169]

I'll take a good used part over an unproven new one.

[@calvinwilliams6717]

HEy thats a old FMX pump 2 clutch unit lol looks like fun

[@GarnettM]

Is the idle a bit high , Seems like it`s lurching wether it should glide ,But it moves !

[@kentshrader6616]

BLESS YOU!

[@richardgalli7262]

Just a suggestion pressure washing the parts before disassembly would greatly help keeping the internal systems clean.

[@mikekisch5563]

i know there is so much cached on oil/dirt you cant even tell i pressure washed it. i did pressure wash it buy the way.

[@t.c.bowling1934]

nice fix!

[@salvageman1983]

Why didn't you paint that trans?

[@محمدعسيري-77]

Good luck 🤞 💚

[@jaredk777]

But does it do burnouts?

[@Rickimusic]

No but you can wheel stand them. (^:^) 〽️

[@andrewm6192]

Excellent, are the brakes ok?

[@mikekisch5563]

no i need to work on them

[@stager33]

I enjoy your videos just wanted to let you know the volume of your audio is off music is higher than you voice & ambient recorded audio

[@farmingforfunandprofit940]

In the past John Deere and Case used bsically the same "Foward -reverse gearbox.. made by Spicer........Torque converter drive

[@wayoflifewayoflife2111]

Mike what model is your case? I just bought 580 B and was wondering if yours is the same? How much did you pay if you don't,mind me asking. I paid 1800 for mine

[@mikekisch5563]

580 c 2800

[@mikekisch5563]

I think the b model was before 76 and c model was made 76 to 80. mine is an 80 model. it has the one piece cylinders. which were adopted late in the 580c manufacturing

[@wayoflifewayoflife2111]

@@mikekisch5563 yeah I was just wondering mine has been sitting for 2 years came with diesel motor then the guy that bought it from put a gas motor in it and he blew that up right away so I'm in the process almost done rebuilding diesel motor he gave me three motors all together 2 gas and the diesel I'm just a little concerned about it sitting for 2 years I wish I knew how to upload a picture to show you what it looks like but I don't know how to do that well good luck with yours I'm sure I'll see more videos of you do them.

[@danandyong6653]

Should really apply fluid to grooves and o- rings while installing, or trouble cometh

[@alphamale1865]

is that a oil clutch?

[@mikekisch5563]

yes

[@daveknowshow]

you did great!

[@robstirling3173]

Those internals look just like the Borg Warner marine gearbox. ( it doesn't have the sum though)

[@gerlandkent6377]

as, far as THE F ft TORK LBS I, would have to look in the owners manual

[@jurasjuras3893]

Super.

[@thisisconstruction.]

Right on man

[@bradjenkins932]

45ft.lbs. ?

[@riasgremorypanasonic6968]

gut Work !

[@fastst1]

heh, mind the grinder spray, had a guy in the shop set his crotch aflame by accident, had to beat out the flames with a shovel. That looks like a much easier swap than my CK580

[@alastor5275]

I would split the difference and torque it at 45ftlbs but that's just me.. I love that old iron like that alot easier to work on and if it's done right you don't have a bit of trouble but hose leaks and batteries.. hate them electronical Gremlins 😂😂

[@hugeheaf6113]

Does anyone else think he sounds like Billy Bob Thornton lol

[@waynep343]

if you are tired of fighting the piston seals into the drums.. stop by your local transmission parts supplier.. not a transmission shop for the most part.. and pick up a globaltransmissionparts.com/transmission-lip-wizard-installation-tool/ with this you can roll your seal lips in crazy easily .. and those clutches that the steels had marks on them had probably gotten wet at one point.. the clutch surface melted and transferred to the steels.. chances are the friction material is going to come off those discs within a few hours of use causing the transmission to SLIP in that direction..

[@leol1682]

Im new Like the video Mike.

[@Mad.Man.Marine]

No shit. That’s just a borg Warner 71-72 series marine transmission lol. Well almost. I bet it uses a ton of the same parts. The oil pan is different.

[@Rickimusic]

Power wash, paint and new decals. NM, power wash the 25 year old oil and dirt on the thing, or don't.

[@michaeltarasenkoop2389]

Do they sell a new rebuilt clutch those people do this work every day could be cheaper and less expensive to have a new rebuilt clutch !more expensive but done right no guess work and guaranteed for what ever time !

[@PaulHigginbothamSr]

If you would have taken the machine out to the road and driven out a mile and back, we would have gone with you. Good mechanics take it out so they can be sure nothing is misaligned or overheating by putting up and down a road that is not traveled heavily. But the steering is so crappy I can see why you didn't. But real good job on the transmission. I see you have put at least one brake on so it could have gone out for a joy ride, but for that steering being bad.

[@mikekisch5563]

I totally want to take it down the road, i have to get the brakes working.

[@Imwright720]

You have a good memory or you laid them out in a pattern to put it back together. I’ve never been able to use an exploded view, they always confuse me. 40-50 ft.lbs. To me means 45

[@johnfeemster4137]

so many of parts like clutches, forward clutch piston and bevel spring look like an old medium case ford..

[@D3m0n86]

good work on the tranny :) looking forward to the next segment. also what is the music track called?

[@stephenbonin3049]

Demoiselle Polly Mcfadden

[@everyonechill3184]

Definitely shouldn’t slam gears like that lol

[@tommystone7327]

Awesome

[@muratkaymak1545]

Çok yaşa

[@mrbussey]

I guess 45 ft/lbs. I always go to the middle when they give a high and low number.

[@jlucasound]

Someone please thumbs up so it is not 666. I had to thumbs up but that number is not good.

[@garyarmstrong4597]

Is the engine a Case engine or another brand?

[@mikekisch5563]

case 207

[@jasonnewell6834]

It’s Torked at 45 foot pounds

[@flyingmerkel54]

I was enjoying your vi deo but the constant fast forward drives me nuts!!!!! Plus it looks like some of what you fast forward through would be interesting

[@davestonerook3643]

45ft pound

[@claudioc6502]

Torkinho.da.580.h.case.ja.ganhei.dinheiro.consertando.alguns.

[@BrainHurricanes]

45! ?

[@coltongarber8087]

Blush you for sneezing in this video

[@427med]

going forward and back without coming to full stop before shifting breaks fucking pinion shaft 385.00 for new one don,t ask how i know

[@edwardfox4967]

45

[@safffff1000]

I got loss 5 minutes in.

[@travismeeker1505]

45 pounds