Zelda Dungeons of Infinity - Mike Matei Live

[@justinbohemier118]

Hi Mike, this is Justin, the game's creator. I enjoyed watching your runs, been a fan of your channel for a long time. I've taken notes of your suggestions. Yeah, lot's of people don't like Agahnim. I made him that way because I was burnt out from this project after 4 years, he was the last thing to add, it was way way simpler to make him take your items, made the fight easier to code. I agree, you should be able to keep the stuff you've collected. But if you can look past that, it's still an enjoyable fight once you get the timing down. Tip for him if you ever get to him again, use the run button. If you hold down the action button you can run faster, noticed you weren't using it during the game. Stay away as far as possible at opposite corners when he's throwing projectiles and run and dodge them. When he goes to the bottom, he'll project that gravity orb that pushes you away, run against it to counter that. Other than that, wait until he throws bombs. 6 bomb hits and he's dead. And there's a very secret room in the sewers that I know you would love, spawns like 15% of time, hoping you would have found it but RNG didn't spawn it, oh well. Anyways, glad you got to Agahnim at least. I'm still posting updates to the game at our discord server: discord.gg/doi Oh also, you can disable the dark rooms entirely if you don't like them from the options.ini file, just set it to 0. Cheers

[@mikematei]

Hey. Glad to see you here. You should know that this game is fucking awesome. You did a great job. Seriously. Better than anything Nintendo has put out Zelda-wise in recent times, that's FOR SURE. I just hope you continue working on it. The problem with fan games is that devs seem to give up on them. I 100% get that you are sick of it. I have worked on long lasting projects too, so I understand. But you should know, from an outside opinion, you made a great game here. I just hope you can stick it out and make some of the updates and corrections that the fan-base wants. Someone else had left me a comment about editing the ini file. I think it would be better if that was an in-game option than me editing it myself. I feel like if I edited the file off stream, that's kind of like cheating. Because then my game would be lighter than other people who didn't edit it.. I still would like to see that added as an option at some point later. 😅 I really hope you consider continuing the game and getting some of the other lttp bosses in there at some point too. I think if you fought the other Lttp bosses before Agahnim it would add a lot. I also get if you are tired of this game and never update it ever again. And if that ends up being the case, what you made here is great. So good work on what you already made. Buuuut if you could just stick it out a little longer and do an update now and then, it would make this old timey Zelda fan happy. Another thing I'd really like is more gadgets for link. I mentioned a flame-hook-shot that makes enemies burn. But literally any kind of new gadget for link is what makes Zelda so cool. So basically just put in more gadgets. I'm sure your discord probably suggested ideas. And sorry, I just don't use discord. Don't have it. On another note - have you ever played the Torneko games? Torneko (Super Famicom) or Torneko on PS1? I feel like those are the best games in the roguelike genre. And I'm just curious if you have? And lastly, are you aware of Zelda Randomizer Reloaded? It's a program that makes endless Zelda 1 games. However, the program is wonky and needs some work. (One thing that's nice is how I can get the roms on an everdrive to play on my CRT though) It'd be a dream to get that program just a little better than it is.. It is VERY cool how that program can do all these different graphic packs for backgrounds. And how it has very specific settings. Like .. want to make a Moblin take 9 hits instead of 2. Stuff like that.. And it got me thinking about your game, and how cool it would be if "Dungeons of Infinity" had more options like that. Some kind of hybrid game between what you just made and Zelda Randomizer Reloaded is the next step..... You got me dreaming.

[@bobbyblueholliday]

Been sharing the shit outta ur game Justin! ❤️❤️❤️ don’t stop with just Zelda bro!

[@dmonsef]

Flame me for asking, but how has Nintendo not come after you with a lawsuit since you basically ported this game to PC/Mac without their permission?

[@MattKimura]

More enemy variety would definitely be nice. You fight the knight enemies so much so it's the same strategy for most if not all enemies early on. Even the stalfos are reskinned knights.

[@CrazyCouchSurfer]

cool

[@mikematei]

Things I'm hoping to see in a future update: 1. Less dark areas. 2. More Boss fights. Rotate bosses. 3. More Music 4. Change final boss up. 5. Arcade games need control screens. If anyone else thinks of other things you'd like to see add your thoughts here.

[@schwartsbruder]

A bigger inventory space would help and travelling back through the previous floor, but the last thing they should have added was a chance to explore the overworld map!

[@thedrew24]

Zelda is controlled by Ganon like Richter in SOTN, as one of the mini bosses near the end

[@mikematei]

@@Drag0zard yeah but then i would be changing the game and thats cheating. The developer needs to change it.

[@bifflowman2948]

More level ups for the sword, enemies take forever to hack away. Or more weapons to change things up, like the ice or fire wands, or getting the bow earlier.

[@Toetmeister]

Isn't the point inventory management? ​@@schwartsbruder

[@mamefan]

I watch you here instead of Twitch bc the stupid Twitch app forces chat in landscape.

[@mikematei]

The app sucks

[@hmdhm8702]

Wet Donkey Balls

[@ElAssoWipe-o]

39:33 Mike in his very first stream was very quiet, then became his "Motherf**ker Mike" persona from Board James. That's why I like to keep calling him Motherf**ker Mike.

[@CrazyCouchSurfer]

Mike is also a master of ninja gaiden. Yeah I agree with you thanks for bringing that up I also see it that way.

[@johncollins6637]

For the final boss, how about this: he gives you a random curse. You can’t use your items until you break the curse. Possible curses: survive for a minute without getting hit; hitting the boss three times with bombs; throw a number of bombs into a hole. The curse will give a random mechanic to the fight.

[@espurrseyes42]

I'm in favor of going the Yami route from Okami and having him take your items, getting them back as you damage him until you get everything back, after which he changes to the Aghanim 2 for the real fight.

[@ZitiPatrol]

Roguelikes and soulslikes are very popular. Difficult games make it more fun imo

[@JohnSmith-ds7oi]

Like, this isn't like a roguelike. It's like a Yoda Stories like.

[@davep7176]

@@JohnSmith-ds7oi We like need a Like-Like like next :P

[@VVhistory]

What he meant is "It's just a game". which attacks your childhood nostalgia because Zelda in your mind is "more than a game".

[@mikematei]

Zelda is just a game. And often times in the series not a good one.

[@andrewpanitz3579]

If you try again, don't forget this version has a strafe. I'm not used to that since the original game didn't have it but it definitely helps when I remember to use it.

[@mikematei]

True

[@TavernCat]

So glad you re-uploaded this one on KZbin after the issues with this particular video on Twitch. I was so bummed out but thought to myself maybe Mike uploaded the uncut video on youtube.. and he did! After the second video on twitch, you were starting to figure out all of the secrets in the village and I was excited to see what you found on your next runs. I think if you do everything in the village (including getting the bombos spell and raising the king of hyrule, and bombing in the SE corner of the desert area, you get something like 1000 rupees total.

[@Killpopkulture]

Mike you fucking rule I subbed on Twitch appreciate you bro

[@fwobebe5164]

I also submit to my Mike UwU

[@CrazyCouchSurfer]

I subbed to you but wouldnt you think if we killed pop culture we would all go underground and that would just become popculture. Thank you

[@oldmandandan]

I know that the cursed chests are a bother, but they are definitely in the Roguelike spirit. Rogue had cursed items as well. What I enjoy about the Rogue cursed items is that they don't always tell you what is cursed. You'll just realize at some point you can't put the cursed item down when you try to upgrade or you start noticing your traits or gear behave weird after a few turns. The mechanic is much sneakier. The way Rogue uses spells was also refreshing when I first played it because you won't know what a spell's effects are until you use it. Spells and Items in Rogue are always a gamble. Makes the game more interesting, imo. Also, I'm sure someone else already pointed it out, but I believe that the music in the shop is from Sim City as well as Pilotwings.

[@crt_rex]

Great stream as always, Mike. Glad I was able to catch you live.

[@DiamondGB]

Leave the aghanim boss as is, only now it’s a secret boss fight against Morshu that you unlock by stealing from every shopkeeper in the game (new mechanic). Bombs!

[@MrAudioCrack]

Finally playing it. My best time is 51 mins

[@jasterthefathyena1843]

"it is what it is.... Til it ain't what it isn't"

[@mikematei]

😱

[@chrisdryer]

I remember I was watching live on youtube when you were streaming Torneko... and I said "I got it for PS2" and you responded saying "Oh I didn't know it was for PS2..." and it turns out... It was the PS1 game that I was playing on the PS2 because PS2 was backwards compatible. Torneko only gets challenging after you beat the game and you get Classes and different dungeons just for different classes. It's really difficult.

[@dmonsef]

Why didn't you save your game at that first tent? How do you run in this game?

[@mikematei]

Saving would be if i was going to shut the game off and come back to it later.

[@dmonsef]

@@mikematei Not if you suck like me. Obviously for you don't save because you are use to doing streaming play throughs.

[@daniell1509]

Great stream. This was really cool. It seemed like every time you were in the little village you would buy items until you spent all your money, even if the last item or 2 wasn't an item that you really wanted that bad. It was like you felt like you had to spend all of your money in the village no matter what. Then on the next floor or so, you'd come across items for sale that you wanted but couldn't afford, like a heart container or a sword upgrade. You may want to decide to save some cash for future upgrades sometimes. Just an idea. I watched the whole video. Thanks again!

[@CompleteProducer84]

Hey Mike, will you be playing UFO 50? I'm sure you've heard about it, but in the crazy off chance you haven't - it's a collection of 50 Retro games. It came out about a week ago to rave reviews. I immediately thought about you!

[@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny]

I saw Jaboody dubs playing it and thought the same thing.

[@mikematei]

Maybe if they pay me.

[@skidooshlayman12]

What's Mike's favorite NFL team?

[@mikematei]

The team where grown men yell at their TVs the same way I yell at games. Oh wait thats all of the teams.

[@GhostSaucer42]

Is it possible to get something like this on Steam Deck?

[@dmonsef]

Been playing 1.1.3 version that was just released a day ago. Personally I feel when down steps to the basement it shouldn’t be a closed door behind you. Too many times there has been a shop person that has good items but were too expensive to purchase, where there was not enough rupees to collect. Other times there are too many rupees but no shop to purchase stuff or items that were not useful enough. The random rooms are way too random. Like what is the point of collecting arrows if no bow drops from enemy, chest or shop. Now/arrows are effective against those jumping knights boss.

[@CrazyCouchSurfer]

You must have to have 36 GB of Ram to run this software, look at the triangularness of this sword. Love ya'll share a laugh with me. Reading other peoples comments gives me ideas for comments.

[@josephdawson569]

Yo Mike! Any chance of you beating Light Crusader on Mega Drive? I think you've streamed it before but never beat it.

[@mikematei]

One day id like to

[@dmonsef]

How have you not been cursed in like the first 25 mins? Every new game I have played because I died, I got cursed somehow since I open and pick up everything.

[@Theseus9-cl7ol]

Thanks for a new Zelda mod, nice to see Frog from Chrono Trigger.

[@Remember_Baker]

Is this the frog from chrono trigger?

[@2shotzzzzzcommon]

Great video mike would love to see more Zelda content been loving it a lot!

[@EvolvingFetus]

I have an alttp romhack for you! Zelda Oracle of Secrets, its set to release soon, keep your eyes peeled :)

[@dmonsef]

Mike why did skip side quests in the game?

[@seniorvan9906]

So there's no outside /world map anymore?

[@mikematei]

Its a roguelike. Typically you go downwards. Ever play binding of issac?

[@rickyvoorhees3435]

What's up?

[@mikematei]

doc

[@ddous1]

Hey Mike, love your channel and videos. I stumbled across it because of one of your numerous Zelda 2 mods (my favorite Zelda game btw). There's something I wanted to get your opinion on regarding Zelda. If you could make the perfect Zelda game what would it be? Like, what items, monsters, dungeons, over world, bosses, weapons, version of Link, etc... would you combine? Anything about the game play that you would add or take away? Thanks again for the great content and have a great day!

[@mikematei]

It would have a randomizer so the game never gets old. And it would have to have an absolute fuckton of weapon types.

[@Denjired]

Hey, those N64 cushions look perfect for...certain uses LOL. Too bad that there's only 40 minutes of your best run on Twitch. I usually watch the original streams on Twitch (mostly because I often look at the chat as well) and comment on KZbin here, so that sucks. But I definitely agree that Agahnim looks like a bitch to defeat. The fight against Moldorm makes me wonder what was different about this in Link's Awakening. What I mean is that in the first dungeon in Link's Awakening, you fight Moldorm as well in a room that is even smaller than the room here (though that room is lit). But I don't remember that being a problem. Makes me wonder what is different here. Games that are missing from your Games I've Beaten On Stream list: -Castle Of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse (2013 remake) (PC): kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6iyqX-KiZ6pY5I

[@adubb315]

Thanks for playing mike!!!

[@lunaticgunstar3708]

To the person who spoiled the last battle for him, you suck lol.

[@dmonsef]

Are saves supposed to disappear if you die? I died in the lair section. You should be allowed to go back to the rebel village!

[@bigcrackrock]

One, two, three o'clock, four o'clock, rock

[@noisetv1863]

Mike, I was playing Utopia Must Fall on Steam and wondered if you would like that game... kind of like a roguelike Missile Command

[@bowserknight]

Hey Mick, it's a game

[@mikematei]

You’re a game

[@bowserknight]

@@mikematei thanks :-)

[@thompsonland1907]

This is an incredible looking hack! And I'm digging the music!

[@robertb67]

It's not a hack. He coded it from scratch.

[@thompsonland1907]

@@robertb67 I learned that later. This roguelike is everywhere now. Unfortunately my only pc is my work laptop and it blocks me from running it.

[@xd666xd]

@MIKE MATEI is ZELDA the guy wearing green rags & equipped with a sword & a shield?

[@CrazyCouchSurfer]

Im with you on the marvel debate. christopher reeves superman is my favorite i like allcsuperman c reeves sequals.

[@03bgood]

You should play Ultimate Trial, sometime.

[@professorpenne9962]

dude this is leaps and bounds better than the new zelda game that looks like an episode of bob the builder. what a great idea.

[@mikematei]

100%

[@jodeboyd8386]

so is this like going through ancient cave of lufia 2 for zelda?

[@jodeboyd8386]

and maybe to zelda as Beyond Chaos is to Final Fantasy VI. I sure hope so

[@CrazyCouchSurfer]

God Mike I agree with you on new videos. Sat down and watched pirates of the carribean with my grandma, i TOTALLY THINK THAT THOSE SHOWS FIT IN WITH HIGH QUALITY VIDEOS. Caps lock. Tmnt 1990 High quality video Top Gun, Silver Bullet all High quality video. Regular show, Amazing world of gumball high quality. Lot of other stuff Is way below all of it the new visuals of Mickey and all the shit. Ewww

[@duskfall_777]

Mike, is there a game from an AVGN episode that you changed your mind on over the years? Like, for example you realised it wasn't as bad?

[@mikematei]

Probably Friday the 13th

[@CrazyCouchSurfer]

That is crazy Mike somebody put they were speed running a game when it was just a first time play through. Mike between me and you we see how that is weird, and should'nt be done. Do u agree? cause I agree with you. Idk what that is or what to title there head or should.

[@TwirlingFoxspirit]

This is a cool game!

[@davealaya]

Mike, play Chorvs on PS5. It's like StarFox

[@Beaut2013]

You should play order of ecclesia on stream.

[@schwartsbruder]

It's a cool zelda mod tho they should make the inventory a little bigger by default and make it where you could travel back to the previous floor.

[@professorpenne9962]

in mystery dungeon / roguelike games you shouldn't be able to though. it would defeat the entire point if you could go back and forth between floors. you're supposed to see how far you can make it before losing.

[@derekfcc]

Defeats the whole purpose.

[@schwartsbruder]

@@professorpenne9962 First time hearing about roguelike games so i didn't know it was made like that?

[@schwartsbruder]

@@derekfcc I see? It's like a hardcore one life randomizer.

[@derekfcc]

@@schwartsbruder yeah kinda. You’re not meant to be able to pick up and carry every item. The fun is understanding the mechanics and managing the resources. There are some things that get super good in your favor, other things that nerf you pretty hard. Sometimes you get really awesome items early, other times you’re begging for a just +1 attack. You die, you start over, so the stakes are pretty high, even on a good run. When you get a good run of items, it feels like even more is on the line. Because you can’t just restart and get top tier items again. You should be confident bc you’ve got good stuff and can easily handle the enemies, but it can mess with you and make you play super careful because you trying not to ruin it. It’s a pretty neat concept. Takes a little getting used to and most people get sour the first few times around. ‘Why can’t I I just have x item’, ‘why do I have to start all the way over,’ ‘why can’t I just save whenever I want’… all normal questions for a beginner, but if you just roll with it, it’s pretty cool

[@jamesmichael561]

Thanks

[@CrazyCouchSurfer]

Yeah your right mike at least im getting old with you.

[@annev5373]

Shame you can't beat it but thanks for the steam

[@joshuasexton3976]

That was a nice one like uncle scrooge very funny

[@illiteratus]

Oh, this is where I'm supposed to complain you won't take our tips! Mike do this. Mike do that! Premiere means live right?

[@tonygomez5383]

Greetings 🖖

[@Sammyyups]

Just commenting for the algorithm

[@mikematei]

Thank you. Now do every other video. I expect it done soon!!!!

[@youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629]

yeah fuck that and they take everything at the end you built up fuck that.

[@tonygomez5383]

Yoshi goes luump

[@primus103]

I don't like Game of Thrones, People, Going Out, Fornite, Sex

[@aaronflament]

Glad mike Mattie is back with a link upload 😮

[@Theseus9-cl7ol]

Same here.

[@masterroshi9942]

Yeah i was already watching Mich flower power playing live for hours the other day so I'm not going to sit through this

[@bobbyblueholliday]

Sorry bro. Ya lost me after that first unnecessary death

[@mikematei]

I agree. I am pathetic. You are my new god

[@roboslothful]

Hell ya.

[@didma]

YO

[@thenightmareonelmstreet9283]

Bimmy

[@xd666xd]

💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣

[@bobbyblueholliday]

Bro. I used that wizrobe line and actually did get laid. Tysm bro. I did it just like you said to

[@JohnSmith-ds7oi]

crappy randomizer