Hey, I just wanna say, these basic videos, and their commentary, are really valuable in a contemporary era where I fucking forgot half of that millwright class, but suddenly need to explain precision motor alignment to a suit in the morning. Thanks, gents!
@Mikesfilmss8 ай бұрын
I`m glad it helped!
@kmdiaries65573 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Really helpful. This helped me from hours of studying :)
@funnystories5575 жыл бұрын
I just wasted 3 hours in class doing my first coupling alignment lol now I'm here thanks for the great video
@Mikesfilmss5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope this was a good resource. I have a lot of students that have to do this alignment and its always frustrating for them. It only gets easier with more experience. Just keep trying, you'll get it.
@susheelkumarmishra60533 жыл бұрын
@@Mikesfilmss can u name the book ur using it
@carlloggins92972 жыл бұрын
Ohhh a Goulds pump! Aka trash pump!
@carlloggins92972 жыл бұрын
First thing you should do is establish length of rod to achieve distance needed to obtain measurements! Then confirm sag of chain jig!of Especially with those
@electromechanicalstuff26023 жыл бұрын
I'm about to do my first alignment. Without any advice from someone who knows how to do it. And it's a 60hp motor. Lol your helping me show up my boss
@rajeshkumar-ge2tu2 жыл бұрын
By steel scale
@electromechanicalstuff26022 жыл бұрын
@@rajeshkumar-ge2tu what do u mean? Edit. I think you mean it's going to shake so bad it'll shake off the rust.... I used to build turbofan airplane engines and pro mod drag racing engines. Dial indicators are not foreign to me. I got the alignment withing 0.004" in all directions. It's been running over a year now and the wind tunnel operator who runs it says it's quite than it's ever been. So thanks for the comment 👍
@tonygenel78343 жыл бұрын
excellent job men good luck .
@mohammadparsnezhad55239 ай бұрын
The perfect method. Thanks.
@Mikesfilmss8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@user-or2kw9sf9q14 күн бұрын
Great video mate
@Mikesfilmss14 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@cesarin78194 жыл бұрын
EXCELENTE TRABAJO
@carlosaguilar45054 жыл бұрын
There are many factors for alignment two shafts, firts, the Rod SAG compensated measurement, them both shafts must be coupling for eliminate any runout condition, don't forget it the soft foot, saludos desde Sinaloa, México.
@Mikesfilmss4 жыл бұрын
Those are found in my other videos! thanks for commenting!
@mccoy19685 жыл бұрын
When doing an alignment, you should install the coupling element and turn both shafts together. This factors out any runout or surface deformities in the coupling hub.
@Mikesfilmss5 жыл бұрын
Thats an interesting tip. I have to follow the text book and other resources for these videos. If you have a resource that suggests that, I'd love to get my hands on it.
@keithscott97745 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The angular alignment for example is based on an assumption that the flat surface the wiggler is resting on (pump coupling) is flat and perpendicular to the shaft. A way to not have to rotate both shafts would be to first rotate the coupling on the pump side and confirm the flat face is indeed flat, i.e. the wiggler stayed at the same position. Then you know that face is flat and perpendicular to the pump shaft and there's no need to rotate it. However, keep the tip of the wiggler in the same place on the flat surface for both tests.
@maxymjobin6604 жыл бұрын
VIBRALIGN will show you that you NEED to tape it or put the coupling first
@ShaunHensley4 жыл бұрын
This is correct.
@boricuaarecibo92594 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing I always do it with the coupling installed
@nivymonyela8180 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video
@hepburn1185 жыл бұрын
Great video mate, but it would be helpful if you showed a bit more of the actual moving of the motor. I would have like to see how your dealt with moving the motor over toward you without ruining the angular adjustment while you were at it. I am talking about the 90 a d 270 degrees points here. I always struggled with that, I would get the angular adjustment correct and go to adjust the side to side and ruin my angular adjustment while I was doing that. Very frustrating. G'day from South Australia by the way.
@Mikesfilmss5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad this helped you. I plan to re do this video with better cameras and more explanation....and better acting haha. Thanks for the comment and the suggestion
@ahmadparviz24024 жыл бұрын
Good information thank you. However the longer side of dial indicator is used to read zero or any other number.
@justinwalsh69322 жыл бұрын
You always set the plunger to half its travel range, so he is calling the 50thou mark on the dial 0
@trevorlebert19293 жыл бұрын
why not use the long needle for your zeroing on the dial indicator
@barryhill97232 жыл бұрын
Great video - You mention book - where can I get a copy?
@avgjoe-cz7cb5 жыл бұрын
4th and final step, just don't forget. Good luck.
@luishernandez53942 жыл бұрын
Also where can i purchase that alignment tool you specifically have in your video?
@anittajoseph497 Жыл бұрын
very good informection
@streamfan68252 жыл бұрын
Never indicate on a painted surface... get your chain under control ..... theres a reason why that wiggler has a "ball " end... laying it on the side of the coupling isnt getting you a true reading regardless.....you should honestly pull your couplings and work off the shaft in this situation.... as its the shaft you are aligning... the coupling isnt as important as the shaft in this circumstance as its a flex coupling
@carley30454 жыл бұрын
What starrett set is this? Where was it purchased from? What is the range needed?
@libravisainty2 жыл бұрын
Can you pls share a link to purchase that pump? I have been looking for the pump head
@Hussein-cd6mbАй бұрын
هل يممكنني الحصول على هذا الكتاب؟
@zyadhaji98382 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Really helpful. Can you please, send the name and author of the book that you shown and used in the video?
@dylangrimsley47122 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find the book?
@javiersoberanis98483 жыл бұрын
IMAT me podrías decir el autor del libro de favor? Gracias
@bretthatfield34733 ай бұрын
Good stuff man 😎
@Mikesfilmss3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@carlloggins92972 жыл бұрын
The face of the mating surface of the 2 part hub would have been a much better surface for your angular reading!
@stevezarycki90044 жыл бұрын
Also, can you identify the kit you are using?
@vnesmuonnam2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Mikesfilmss2 ай бұрын
No problem!
@AlC925752 жыл бұрын
Remember kiddies. Jack bolts are your friend.
@jameslauinger2964 жыл бұрын
Both shafts need to turned as one unit (at the same time) and your reading the dial with the Wrong end of the needle!
@slimmmerman5 жыл бұрын
You had 50 at 12:00 not 0 but other than that you have me totally confused... thanks for the refresher!You do realize that the long pointy end of the finger is the indicator?
@shyamcharankumbhakar21845 жыл бұрын
slimmmerman ..CFO
@jloc803dw5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing and on the second go around, he was still zeroing to the short end of the dial. But, I still appreciate the video and look forward to finding more of them as I continue down my Mechatronics training at Valencia College, Kissimmee, FL.
@mohammed90m4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you used a book What its name?
@fahaddhiya47644 жыл бұрын
اين يتوفر هذا الجهاز فضلا وليس امرا
@robertvogl67684 жыл бұрын
not the way i do it. looks like it may be a woods size 6. .015 parallel, .070 angular max. you can align this with the right light, with a straight edge
@ingDemurtas2 жыл бұрын
how did you do the horizontal move, without fucking up the horizontal angular alignment?
@tylerwalling3335 Жыл бұрын
What book was that you were referencing in the video? Thanks
@chris-wt7ol Жыл бұрын
Up and down is called vertical and side to side is called horizontal sir
@arjunnims86473 жыл бұрын
👍thank u sir
@stephendavis1572 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Unless these are stainless steel shafts, could you just use a mag base to hold your dial indicator?
@Mikesfilmss8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't because of rigidity. I am not sure of a scenario when a magnet base would be better.
@american6431Ай бұрын
What book did you use?
@spencertoolandgrind Жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen a wiggler in this video. Have several of my own. Other than that it’s good info.
@susheelkumarmishra60534 жыл бұрын
Please name the book u used
@nickledimez40123 жыл бұрын
Do you have a publisher or your own manual? Great vid
@Mikesfilmss8 ай бұрын
We used the millwrights handbook for this
@TheGhost819 ай бұрын
with the proper tools make easy but some employeers does not want to invest in it I work for canfor sawmill most of the bases are home made with torch and grinder if the bolts dont fit make bigger with the torch is annoying
@erastuschristian2698 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of that book,I need it
@umargul56444 жыл бұрын
thanks sir
@user-ro8ln9ys1b3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Do you share me about double reverse alignment formular?
@carlloggins92972 жыл бұрын
You can place both indicators at once with a little maneuvering! You must do a solid pre alignment!
@ThePowerzet Жыл бұрын
If everyone comments it can be 1001 ideas how to do alignment
@carlosmueller12764 жыл бұрын
We have been having problems aligning our pumps in the boiler room & recently our manger purchase the same type of indicator but it has two dials , to chain vises, swivel joints, & variety of tubing to mount the indicator. Well, my question is , is it still possible to get proper alignment if I already had the coupling come together or do I need to start back over , & go through each steps as you instructed . Of course the manual tells you to do it one way but being a visual learner , I would prefer to do it your way.
@Mikesfilmss4 жыл бұрын
Hello! I think I understand your question and yes you can leave the coupler together. I think if you read a few comments below mccoy 1968 tells me that`s what I should have done for a better alignment. I`ve worked with people who swear by leaving the coupler out and other people that swear by leaving it in. This video is based on the textbook we use and it says to leave it out. I`ve never used your style of alignment tool so I hope this helps! good luck with your alignment!
@giltupaz5979 Жыл бұрын
yes,that's rim n face alignment.how about d amt. of shims in near n far foot?you did not show d triangulation computation.
@stevezarycki90044 жыл бұрын
What book are you referring to in the beginning? And can I purchase it?
@Mikesfilmss4 жыл бұрын
It`s called the Millwrights & mechanics guide 5th edition. by Thomas Bieber Davis & Carl A. Nelson. Its a pretty good all round book and it`s one of the few books that actually has shaft alignment. I think you can pick up a cheap copy off amazon, good luck.
@rachelharrison6294 Жыл бұрын
@@Mikesfilmss thank you for finally naming book.
@gbeankolyrichardgonlas22674 жыл бұрын
la methode est bonne mais les limites du comparateur n est pas comprehensive
@intong5life8165 жыл бұрын
BEFORE YOU ALIGN THE HORIZONTAL MAKE ITS SURE ALSO ALIGN THE VERTICAL
@krombopulousmichael95364 жыл бұрын
Vertical always first
@luishernandez53942 жыл бұрын
what book is the name of that book is it specific per manufactuer?
@Mikesfilmss8 ай бұрын
Millwrights handbook
@eloymontes50264 жыл бұрын
And the soft foot, how can I check??
@Mikesfilmss4 жыл бұрын
I go over soft foot and cleaning/ inspection in my step 3 video. But honestly, I would search it on youtube because there are tons of videos on soft foot. I think vibralign has a very good one if I remember right
@Kmn02195 жыл бұрын
Is it important to be that accurate? What happens if youre are off by hundreths of a mm?
@Mikesfilmss5 жыл бұрын
In short, yes this is very important but that might not answer your question. Below is link to a study on bearing life. about 3/4 of the way down the page is a chart showing that if a shaft is 20mil out it can have 50% decrease in life. This might be an extreme but the article has other levels of misalignment. www.efficientplantmag.com/1999/04/study-shows-shaft-misalignment-reduces-bearing-life/ hope this answers your question.
@Kmn02195 жыл бұрын
Tooele Tech Automation Manufacturing Technician thank you! That was very helpful. Is there any information on how to couple small external gear pumps with motors? Small as in ~.5gpm
@jonnyjax65285 жыл бұрын
What’s the book
@Mikesfilmss5 жыл бұрын
Its`s called the Millwrights & mechanics guide 5th edition. by Thomas Bieber Davis & Carl A. Nelson. Its a pretty good all round book and its one of the few books that actually has shaft alignment. I think you can pick up a cheap copy off amazon, good luck.
@marawansayed19414 жыл бұрын
ممكن الترجمه الى العربية
@rick94902 жыл бұрын
Why is his zero at .050?
@hkngui75724 жыл бұрын
where u get the handbook?
@Mikesfilmss4 жыл бұрын
I would just get it off amazon
@ramingoyush98222 жыл бұрын
Could you write correct name of book ?
@emeterioesponja4 жыл бұрын
7:20 aligneament in paint metal?? alineaciones de maquinas es en partes mecanizadas y descubiertas ..pollo!!
@paulpaul49215 жыл бұрын
OMG you did the alignment turn it just the motor shaft, that's it's wrong,you need to turn bouth shaft from 0 till 180 and better two have 2 axial dial set up and 1 for radial...And also when you touch the shims it's good to do just in one side (left or right) and make other side like that on horizontally your motor remain in position without not moving..I hope you understand what i say...
@mechtech26865 жыл бұрын
If float of shaft is less then no need to 2 axial dials. It is mostly use when float of shaft is more and normal axial misalignment avoid for flexible coupling spacer .!! also no need to moving both shaft here
@georgewashington86525 жыл бұрын
@@mechtech2686 Correct.
@jeninp9932 жыл бұрын
please show the shim size
@yansahhelmi5 жыл бұрын
what your book title?
@Mikesfilmss5 жыл бұрын
Its`s called the Millwrights & Mechanics guide 5th edition. by Thomas Bieber Davis & Carl A. Nelson. Its a pretty good all round book and its one of the few books that actually has shaft alignment. I think you can pick up a cheap copy off amazon, good luck.
@yansahhelmi5 жыл бұрын
@@Mikesfilmss thanks u Mr. Terimakasih from Indonesia
@matthood98382 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the book that you used?
@rachelharrison6294 Жыл бұрын
see Steve Zarycki replies above.
@matthood9838 Жыл бұрын
@@rachelharrison6294 sorry that was watched 5 months ago. Could you just tell me bro?
@Harun-kr8qt4 жыл бұрын
Ada Yang berbahasa indonesia?
@abrightmover341911 ай бұрын
Hi,what is the name of your book?
@Mikesfilmss8 ай бұрын
Millwrights handbook
@cbdubey47744 жыл бұрын
Very good
@jodyrolandconstruction65774 жыл бұрын
I have been a millwright for a number of years and I haven’t used this method in a long time. With the advancements in laser alignment over the last 5 to 10 years why would anyone use this method?
@Mikesfilmss4 жыл бұрын
I personally only know of a few places still doing this method but it is on a few pre-employment tests and I believe it is on the NCCER test for millwrights (Don`t quote me on that I`ve never taken the test). I think it also helps student visuals types of alignment but yes most of our curriculum is centered around laser alignment. Hope this helps you!
@hightekinc7234 жыл бұрын
Cost of the laser
@jodyrolandconstruction65774 жыл бұрын
Tom Kane the vast majority of companies can afford laser alignment tools. As close to perfect as they do the job companies can’t afford to not have them. Also I’m not knocking this method at all. Just noting that laser alignment is so much better.
@malachy18473 жыл бұрын
Not everyone might Lazer alignment tools to hand...
@72timhall3 жыл бұрын
I'm a construction millwright aswell I recently worked on a project installing a gas turbine.The contractor supplied us with inside micrometers and dials for all alignments. It's still a viable method
@carlloggins92972 жыл бұрын
Lose the wiggler with that kind of gap!
@chris-wt7ol Жыл бұрын
Are u journeymen or a apprentice sir. Im not being mean im just curious
@EDNOC4 жыл бұрын
U
@ZainKhan-xx6np2 жыл бұрын
Do you have pdf version of the book you showed here?
@Mikesfilmss8 ай бұрын
I don`t
@zunaidisiswanto33502 жыл бұрын
how do you calculate the value of additional shim? can you share to us?
@Mikesfilmss2 жыл бұрын
I no longer have access to this equipment otherwise I would. good luck! I hope you find some other resourses
@juanpablohume82992 жыл бұрын
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@streamfan68252 жыл бұрын
when "shimming" your motor whether adding or subtracting NEVER loosen all 4 bolts at same time.. good way to lose your work... do 1 side at a time.. if you dont you will be chasing your alignment alot of times...
@donnienorton41943 жыл бұрын
The reason they sent 2 dial incisors is to use reverse dial method a reading value of 0 in the horizontal plane is almost never the correct final result you need to alow for themral growth a simple rule of thumb .00083 per inch at 100 degrees of temp rise all the people i have taught Lazer alignment to all benefit from learning rim and face dial indicator first.that is the method you showing on your video
@mohammedalsaedi62572 жыл бұрын
But in new modern manufacturing they’ve solved this problem no need to worried about this.
@sethhelms8404 Жыл бұрын
Surely this man isn't trying to teach?.. he's obviously never done that before
@ashlyhester27823 жыл бұрын
Could have done that in half the time with the correct mathematical formula 😉
@georgecrabtree20135 жыл бұрын
Please say the full word "thousandths" not "thou".