Miles in Transit USA 🇺🇸 Interview Chat (No.9)

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Geoff Marshall

Geoff Marshall

Жыл бұрын

After recording the 'Least Used Subway' video with me, Miles and I sat down and he answered all the questions I had about the New York Subway ...
We recorded this right after filming 'Least Used Subway' video : • Least Used New York Su...
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@JohnLumagui
@JohnLumagui Жыл бұрын
Hearing my favorite two train nerds having a spirited discussion is an absolute joy!
@fredashay
@fredashay Жыл бұрын
I agree. Normally, I don't care for "talking heads" videos, but this was well done and interesting!
@roxxma
@roxxma 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, if they included Thom from Trains Are Awesome, it would be the perfect trifecta!
@jamescollier3682
@jamescollier3682 Жыл бұрын
“the big three…London, New York, Paris.” Tokyo would very much like a word…
@gigglesmurf2004
@gigglesmurf2004 11 ай бұрын
As an American I would think Japan over France when thinking about trains anytime. Paris? 🤨
@warmike
@warmike 10 ай бұрын
And so would Moscow
@scotdodgy
@scotdodgy 7 ай бұрын
And so would Taipei.
@thebobagamer806
@thebobagamer806 Жыл бұрын
To answer the question at 17:24 about car lengths: The A division (numbered lines) run with 51 foot cars, with all lines running 10 car sets except for the 7 which runs 11 cars The B division (lettered lines) is confusing. There are two types of car lengths: 60 foot cars (R143, R160, R179, R211) and 75 foot cars (R46 and R68). To form a full length train, you need eight 75 foot cars, or ten 60 foot cars. For example the A runs R46, R179 and R211’s. If you get an R46, you will be on an eight car train, but if you are on a R211, that is a ten car train. However, the platforms in Brooklyn on the J, Z, L, and M lines are shorter, and so those lines run eight car trains, but with 60 foot long cars, and 75 foot cars are not allowed on those lines. There are a few more exceptions: -Despite the C running on full length platforms, they have a fleet of mostly eight car 60 foot R179’s similar to the J/Z to save on maintenance -The G and S Rockaway Shuttle runs with half length trains (five car 60 feet long or four car 75 feet long) to save on yard space and maintenance -The M shuttle on weekends and late nights also runs half length trains (four cars 60 feet each) -As you saw the S Franklin Av Shuttle runs with 2 car R68 sets -The S 42nd Street Shuttle runs with six A Division 51 foot cars
@abgamer6611
@abgamer6611 Жыл бұрын
Actually the R160 runs on the G line so it's about 5 cars now. Bc now most of Broadway lines like the N, Q and W use R68s and R46s
@cazharris5581
@cazharris5581 Жыл бұрын
I love Geoff’s excitement during this trip - living his best life 😀😁😃
@CasinoJoe_760
@CasinoJoe_760 Жыл бұрын
Geoff, Take Miles up on his offer to tour Boston and the T! So much history and its such a beautiful city! And the metro system is much more cohesive and easy to understand and to ride . Id love to see you tour Boston! All the best to you and Miles!
@BillRicker
@BillRicker Жыл бұрын
Definitely history! Some of the history still rolling: PCC* trolleys in actual revenue service, being perpetually reconditioned old-school rewindings etc. * (PCC = the Presidents' (trolley)Car Commission: the apostrophe position is correct, multiple transit property presidents commissioned a commission to collaboratively develop a common (trolley)car design tender. )
@TobyPannone
@TobyPannone Жыл бұрын
UHM AKSHUALLY, 275 STATIONS ARE UNDERGROUND, WHICH IS 59% 🤓🤓🤓 In all seriousness, great job Miles, and great videos, Geoff! I doubt I would've done any better.
@forthbrdge6162
@forthbrdge6162 Жыл бұрын
But what about percentage of mileage? 🤓
@firesurfer
@firesurfer Жыл бұрын
Does that include open cut stations? If they had a roof, they would be underground.
@TobyPannone
@TobyPannone Жыл бұрын
@@firesurfer nope, the 59% number is just fully-underground stations.
@sonicboy678
@sonicboy678 Жыл бұрын
@@firesurfer Let me introduce you to Wilson Avenue.
@OltonHall
@OltonHall Жыл бұрын
Miles was brave to have done that interview. 😂
@RubyyVista
@RubyyVista Жыл бұрын
As a New Yorker, the differences between "lines" and "services" had me stumped a while ago while reading about the subway's nomenclature, and I think I FINALLY have a good analogy for it. Imagine the "Lines" as the physical roads a bus route travels on, and the "services" as the route(s) that travel on said roads. The roads can change during the trip, and sometimes multiple routes share the road. Living here has certainly helped with knowing where to start with this!
@michaeldwyer3352
@michaeldwyer3352 Жыл бұрын
If only our beloved Charles Tyson Yerkes could have survived long enough to help the NY subway builders rationalise their system to London's impeccable standards....Geoff and Miles you are an unbeatable duo.
@CharlesTysonYerkesOfficial
@CharlesTysonYerkesOfficial Жыл бұрын
Tis I, Charles Tyson Yerkes, you called for me and here I am!
@emjackson2289
@emjackson2289 Жыл бұрын
Lizzie needs to have a word with TfL via the tarot cards to get CrossRail renamed "Yerkes Line".
@CharlesTysonYerkesOfficial
@CharlesTysonYerkesOfficial Жыл бұрын
@@emjackson2289 I'm all for that!
@annemaloney8273
@annemaloney8273 Жыл бұрын
I cannot wait for Geoff does Boston! I was born and raised in Cambridge, MA, and I remember the trolleys running to Lechmere Square. You wouldn't recognize it now!
@MarloSoBalJr
@MarloSoBalJr Жыл бұрын
For Geoff's sake, he's gonna need at least a week to fully grasp the sheer magnitude of the NYC Subway as a whole.
@phronsiekeys
@phronsiekeys Жыл бұрын
it's good to know that if Geoff ever does visit Boston that Miles will be sure he rides the Mattapan High-Speed Line
@paradoox02459
@paradoox02459 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully while they still have the PCC cars. There is a plan to replace all the cars on the Green line and move some of the type-9s to the Mattapan High-Speed Line.
@phronsiekeys
@phronsiekeys Жыл бұрын
@@paradoox02459 I'd heard that, but at the rate the T is getting things done these days, maybe it will be possible.
@thexalon
@thexalon Жыл бұрын
I've done the math on the T, and I believe it's possible to visit every station on that system in about 8 hours, well within Geoff's train abilities. There's a few short foot transfers, and possibly a bus between Forest Hills and Mattapan. It's also made easier now with an easy foot transfer between Davis to Medford/Tufts.
@phronsiekeys
@phronsiekeys Жыл бұрын
@@thexalon I'd wait until all the slowdowns and closures are over.
@WillsRailfanning
@WillsRailfanning Жыл бұрын
A half hour of the two best transit nerds in the world blabbering on about the NYC subway, this is my version of heaven 😁
@stephenkeever6029
@stephenkeever6029 Жыл бұрын
Miles has cemented his Rock Star Transit bona fides! It's a like a doctorate dissertation on NYC subways.
@channelplays00
@channelplays00 Жыл бұрын
Love a good Geoff Chat all that's missing is a good cuppa tea & cake
@mzxeternal
@mzxeternal Жыл бұрын
He mentioned Coffee and Donuts… when in Rome, or NY rather 🤣
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 Жыл бұрын
Great chat! According to the internet, the New York subway system is 248 miles long whereas the London tube system is 249 miles - that's strangely similar!! At street level, London Tube stations have big familiar roundel logos on them but the New York stations seem almost hidden - I find this very odd in a land of loud garish signs.
@RTWuk
@RTWuk Жыл бұрын
Yeah, garish, and not great at design simplicity and wayfinding (Apple and some of tech excluded!)
@obroni
@obroni Ай бұрын
Miles, in-focus, for 30 minutes, I guess there is a first time for everything!
@luckypup4686
@luckypup4686 Жыл бұрын
The BMT used to be called the BRT (Brooklyn Rapid Transit) until it went bankrupt due to the Malbone Street Wreck when a train going too fast around a curve into Prospect Park station crashed. 17:04 Except for Queensboro Plaza Station. 7 trains and W/N trains stop at the same platform across from each other
@musiqtee
@musiqtee Жыл бұрын
Re 17:04: Language & meaning thing, I *think* the UK use of “platform” is equal to “track” when referring to where a particular service (line, direction, destination etc) will show up… An island platform with two tracks would still be designated “platform 1” and “platform 2” - even if they’re physically the same structure. Used to travel in the UK back when, but I might be on the wrong track here, really bad pun… I’m just a simple 🇳🇴‘ian, so we’d name the two tracks 1 and 2, and never name the platform itself - island or separate ones. One service would be announced as entering “track 1”, never “platform 1”. Dang, I’m just confusing people even more, I guess… 😂👍
@davidthaler7018
@davidthaler7018 Жыл бұрын
@@musiqteeThey do this on BART in the SF Bay Area. Island platform, one track in each direction, and they refer to platform 1 and 2 instead of track 1 and 2.
@davidthaler7018
@davidthaler7018 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but the 2 services don’t use the same track, which is what I thought his question was. Unless there’s a reroute (and remember that A and B division services can’t be rerouted between divisions), an N would never show up on the A platform at Penn Station.
@musiqtee
@musiqtee Жыл бұрын
@@davidthaler7018 Oh, absolutely! What i referred to, was a momentary “across the pond” misunderstanding between the two guys - they certainly know their stuff…👍 In the US (and here in 🇳🇴) we allocate a track. In the UK, they allocate a platform - all meaning a particular set of tracks. When Geoff said “same platform” I would think he meant same physical set of tracks, possibly on one side of an island platform. I interpreted that as causing a little back & forth between them… I’m just being very particular about a (possibly alleged by me) linguistic detail, but you know - rail enthusiasts and details… 😅
@lohphat
@lohphat Жыл бұрын
As a transplant from SoCal to NYC who also lived in Paris and spends a lot of time in London, the key to enjoying NYC is to explore outside of Midtown Manhattan. There are so many beautiful neighborhoods accessible via the subway, like 181st street and Bennett Park, Inwood, Ft. Tryon Park. When out in Far Rockaway take the ferry back to Manhattan 34th street for an amazing view of downtown. So much to do. ---- I used to think subway entrance green-only globes and green/white globes meant something different, but apparently they all started out as all green, but the lower half was changed to white to provide brighter area lightning around the entrance. ---- What's frustrating about the system is it's NOT clear when there's limited service on weekends due to normal scheduling. e.g. The M train doesn't go into Manhattan on weekends, and when you look at online status apps it says it's running. Also, some trains have different termini at different times and it's easy to get caught out. The announcement system is notoriously hard to understand, even for native English speakers let alone tourists. The MTA could do a much better job of communicating what is an express train and what's not for non-locals. It's not obvious, especially when there is maintenance and train sets or running on the "wrong" set of tracks. e.g. On the west side, the 1 train is local and the 2 and 3 are express, on the east side the 4 and 5 are express and the 6 is local.
@themoviedealers
@themoviedealers Жыл бұрын
I thought half green and half white meant open during the day only.
@lohphat
@lohphat Жыл бұрын
@@themoviedealers Me too until I read the MTA site and it's just for visibility.
@sonicboy678
@sonicboy678 Жыл бұрын
That bit about the M on weekends isn't quite accurate. If you're talking about _Midtown,_ then it's accurate, but Delancey Street is very much in Manhattan.
@lohphat
@lohphat Жыл бұрын
@@sonicboy678 Yes I’m talking about Midtown, it's not obvious the M doesn't run it's full line.
@jonathanhibberd5746
@jonathanhibberd5746 Жыл бұрын
The Kyiv metro has a similar situation to the deepest station station in NY. Arsenalna is a deep station (2 long escalators, takes about 5 minutes to get from entrance to platform) but after emerging from a hill the following station, Dnipro, is elevated.
@Madwonk
@Madwonk Жыл бұрын
DC as well! We apparently have the longest escalator in the US
@flavoredsnacks9979
@flavoredsnacks9979 Жыл бұрын
Geoff would love the Chicago L, there's five stations called "Western", five with "Kedzie" in the name, four "Pulaski"s, and to top it off, there's three called "Chicago"
@yeahman70
@yeahman70 Жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite KZbinrs in one video, this is amazing
@denishennessy1318
@denishennessy1318 Жыл бұрын
Great content, love the banter.
@snackattackmax8207
@snackattackmax8207 Жыл бұрын
The best collab I could have ever asked for!
@jeremysmith4437
@jeremysmith4437 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant
@davidpiper3652
@davidpiper3652 Жыл бұрын
This is fabulous!
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 Жыл бұрын
Very entertaining! Thankyou very much for that
@Honeydwarf85
@Honeydwarf85 Жыл бұрын
What timing! I just finished the last video!
@ulfw
@ulfw Жыл бұрын
Miles is so nice
@michaelsullo3698
@michaelsullo3698 Жыл бұрын
Riding the NYC subways for years made easier for me to ride The Tube in London. They are different but there are many simularities.. BTW, I did see a rat at Bank St. station on the Northern Line tracks, it made me feel like I was back in NYC.
@Mergatroid
@Mergatroid Жыл бұрын
Chicago has 7 stations called Western. The CTA Blue Line even has 2 (one on the O'Hare branch and one on the Forest Park branch near opposite ends)
@bkark0935
@bkark0935 Жыл бұрын
In defense of Chicago, at least, it is the same long north/south stretch of Western Avenue. The whole “multiple 23rd Streets” on the NYC Subway is due to the multiple street numbering systems found across Brooklyn and Queens (especially due to many Queens neighborhoods being former Suburbs.)
@sonicboy678
@sonicboy678 Жыл бұрын
@@bkark0935 There's only one station named 23rd Street outside of Manhattan. The rest are directly tied to Manhattan's. Better examples of what you're getting at are 33rd Street (distinct streets in Queens and Manhattan), 111th Street (all in Queens, but the section served by the 7 is distinct from the section served by the A and J), 79th Street (distinct streets in Brooklyn and Manhattan served by different divisions), and 36th Street (both distinct streets served by the R, but Brooklyn has an express station while Queens is exclusive to local trains).
@bkark0935
@bkark0935 Жыл бұрын
@@sonicboy678 yes, 33rd Street, sorry…my mistake! Thanks for the correction.
@Rishnotfishandnochips
@Rishnotfishandnochips Жыл бұрын
I AM FROM NEW YORK AND I THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT IT IS ACTUALLY 59% THAT IS UNDERGROUND!!!! (Note: This is just a joke and I actually live in Epping, Essex)
@Rishnotfishandnochips
@Rishnotfishandnochips 24 күн бұрын
And i doxxed myself i realise
@williamerazo3921
@williamerazo3921 Жыл бұрын
Second favorite line is the
@ds-il7ik
@ds-il7ik Жыл бұрын
Love this conversation
@Flushing2Fishtown
@Flushing2Fishtown Жыл бұрын
Oh and for the subway globes. Green globe means 24 hour entrance. Originally, yellow globes were used for entrances that were open partial hours and red globes were used for exit only, but eventually red globes ended up being used for both
@firesurfer
@firesurfer Жыл бұрын
Mostly gone. I can't remember the last time I saw one.
@richard-mtl
@richard-mtl Жыл бұрын
I have the same t-shirt! Love seeing 2 of my favourite transit KZbinrs together, amazing! Hope you both come to visit Montreal one day, I'd be happy to give you a tour!
@530nm330Hz
@530nm330Hz Жыл бұрын
Stations with the same name make sense when the name of the station is the cross-street. You're expected to know which avenue you're travelling under. - New York born and bred, now living next to Boston.
@TooManyHobbiesJeremy
@TooManyHobbiesJeremy Жыл бұрын
A great series of videos!
@KoiMorris
@KoiMorris Жыл бұрын
Lovely video! I enjoyed you two chatting about the NYC subway and the Tube. Geoff, another trip back to the US should be in the cards soon for you to ride the T and other systems here in the US.
@craftergin
@craftergin Жыл бұрын
You guys are hilarious! 💖💖💖💖
@widecarman1147
@widecarman1147 Жыл бұрын
@geoff NYers will go, “it’s our system, it’s bad, but we love it and we are the only ones who can badmouth it for the most part” also living in NYC you get used to calling the duplicate stations by what line they r on, like 23rd st on R
@alanbutler9627
@alanbutler9627 Жыл бұрын
Glad yoi came to the USA, Geoff. Some day I'd love to show you Amtrak;s NEC and talk about the wonderful Pennsylvania Rialroad which preceded it. I have lots of stories about the men who worked on the Pennsy!
@rockerjim8045
@rockerjim8045 Жыл бұрын
They gave out free Subway maps when I visited New York. They were particularly useful as they emphasised local roads as well. On my last day my flight was at 9.30pm. To kill time I walked from Manhattan to the sight of Shea Stadium then to the Flushing Meadows tennis centre. La Guardia Airport surprised me as it didn’t have a Subway connection.
@SEFR7337
@SEFR7337 Жыл бұрын
No direct subway connection unfortunately. But the Q70-SBS bus runs 24/7 to LaGuardia. It only makes stops at two subway stations (74th St. Jackson Heights and 61st St. Woodside). It's currently free.
@firesurfer
@firesurfer Жыл бұрын
It's a perpetual sore spot for a lot of people. The basic issue is a massive natural geography/road issue near Grand Central parkway. ANY solution is going to be pricey and ugly.
@sonicboy678
@sonicboy678 Жыл бұрын
@@firesurfer Don't forget one of the runways!
@phwayne
@phwayne Жыл бұрын
They did a study on extending the subway, but turned out to be way too expensive. In stead, they added free and more frequent bus connection from the nearest subway stations to LGA.
@mzxeternal
@mzxeternal Жыл бұрын
Another great video guys! Just a few things… most NYC subway trains are 10 cars, with some exceptions (the 7 being 11, The G, M and C and shuttles being shorter) The “B division” doesn’t have universal train swap-ability as theres some clearance issues with some aging IND trains like the R68 on BMT (Lines J/M/Z) trackage. And no one mentioned the simpleness of telling the difference between the division’s, the IRT lines are the numbers, with the B division BMT/IND being the letter lines. Lastly, multiple 23rd streets in Manhattan isn’t complicated when you’re aware of what avenue the train operates under. In NY intersections are everything. It can get confusing when there’s multiple 23rd streets on the same service. The M for example, stops at a 23rd street in Manhattan and a 23rd street-ely in Queens.
@rachelwalker7091
@rachelwalker7091 Жыл бұрын
I’ve spent 6 days in NY using the subway and never knew it was so complex. London Underground is quirky and cosier while NY Subway is slightly scary.
@Emily_20095
@Emily_20095 Жыл бұрын
Yes more USA content! LOVE IT!
@DonaldTrumpIsGreat
@DonaldTrumpIsGreat Жыл бұрын
Good Work Geoff 👍
@jerseydevil1995
@jerseydevil1995 Жыл бұрын
Crossover we needed
@SelkentScania472
@SelkentScania472 Жыл бұрын
petition for geoff to go fully blonde😭🤯
@cazharris5581
@cazharris5581 Жыл бұрын
I think he should have a stripe of each colour of the TfL lines…🚇
@thekingofming
@thekingofming Жыл бұрын
@@cazharris5581moquette or nothing 😀
@cazharris5581
@cazharris5581 Жыл бұрын
@@thekingofming Fantastic - but how would he choose?!
@thekingofming
@thekingofming Жыл бұрын
@@cazharris5581 no need to, we could choose 😀
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan Жыл бұрын
No I need his fading blond stripe as a metric to indicate how long the Purple train has been open
@user-mx8qe6hu6e
@user-mx8qe6hu6e 11 ай бұрын
A BRILLIANT video guys
@javiskii
@javiskii Жыл бұрын
As a foreigner to the US, I didn't quite get nyc until I started living 20mins away from it. I miss it so much
@thebiblioholic
@thebiblioholic Жыл бұрын
Welcome to NYC!
@trainlover123trainsrock
@trainlover123trainsrock Жыл бұрын
You need to visit City hall station on the 6 train loop. Please!
@3506Dodge
@3506Dodge Жыл бұрын
New York is the most economically important city in the world. That's not the same thing as being the best place to live.
@timdunn2387
@timdunn2387 Жыл бұрын
Geoff, my daughter and grandson returned to Adelaide, South Australia from NY last Wednesday. My gift? A pair of socks from the Transit Museum.
@nixmixes770
@nixmixes770 11 ай бұрын
Before I visited New York I looked up various videos about the Subway and how to get tickets (including from the airport) which made it easy and enjoyable. I was on a late evening A on diversion and was really impressed with the announcements and the adaptable in-car line displays which made it clear what was going on. I also like the jaunty 'stand clear of the closing doors' recording. It's a great system despite the investment challenges.
@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire
@A-Trainspotter-From-Berkshire Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video.
@emjayay
@emjayay Жыл бұрын
Manhattan streets above lower Manhattan (original NYC) are parallel and in a grid that is close to North/South-East/West directions with the subway often running right under the street, unlike London where the streets and Tube are both spaghetti. It's natural that the mostly N/S subway lines would also be parallel and several have the same station names because they all cross the same E/W street. There are only two E/W lines though. The other boroughs generally have numerous grids with different orientations not just NSEW with the subway lines often running under, over, or in a trench between them. So the subway lines mostly depend on the grids, and it's not confusing.
@koga115
@koga115 Жыл бұрын
Park Place is one of my favorite stations too Miles! I'm there quite often! I believe that Franklin Avenue station on the S is a single track station
@tireddad51
@tireddad51 Жыл бұрын
Great couple of videos Geoff, I love NYC & it’s subway system, some fantastic trips there & exploring subways & firehouses. Did you stop at the system’s highest station (above sea level)?
@GoranNewsum
@GoranNewsum Жыл бұрын
This might be my favourite Choo Choo Chat so far! Had me giggling throughout!
@rthproductions6507
@rthproductions6507 Жыл бұрын
5:54 All of the stations on 23rd Street (between Park Ave South and 8th Ave) are connected by using the M23 Select Bus service.
@davidthaler7018
@davidthaler7018 Жыл бұрын
Same could be said for the crosstown buses on 14, 34, and 42 streets. :-)
@Tokkemon
@Tokkemon Жыл бұрын
I'M FROM NEW YORK, AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT IT'S ACTUALLY 60% UNDERGROUND.
@JoeL-bg6em
@JoeL-bg6em Жыл бұрын
evening and weekend diversions. i used to love the weekender. then the mta app. now it’s just get frustrated and walk. … also if mta ran a number line train on a letter line track, the like “mind the gap” would really apply
@TheFrogfather1
@TheFrogfather1 Жыл бұрын
Having recently been on our first visit to NYC I can agree with how hard it is to find some of the subway entrances. Despite having google maps we had to ask directions several times. The other thing we noticed is how loud the trains are when stationary - mostly from the aircon. Travelling with an autistic teenager you tend to notice these things!
@wefounddove
@wefounddove Жыл бұрын
You need to visit Porto’s metro system. We’ve just spent a weekend here and it’s a lot of fun!
@justinwiley2072
@justinwiley2072 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Come to Boston and do a segment on the MBTA. I'll buy the coffee!
@PositionLight
@PositionLight Жыл бұрын
Were they selling cheap beers again on the Rockaway ferry? Before Covid it had surprisingly affordable 24oz cans of beer for sale.
@Maunico0809
@Maunico0809 Жыл бұрын
About train length, for the B-Division you can have a 8 car train of 60 footers (480 feet), a 10 car train of 60 footers (600 feet), and a 8 car train of 75 footers (600 feet). The R46s and R68s are the only car type which each car is 75 feet long. Car types before these two were 60 feet long, and future orders after these cars were 60 feet long due to 60 foot long trains allowing for more doors per set.
@firesurfer
@firesurfer Жыл бұрын
Did not know this. Thumbs up.
@northernidaho5750
@northernidaho5750 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been to both London and NYC, and I agree with Miles that the subway has the best infrastructure of any metro system, but the tube edges it out because it’s better maintained My favorite line/station on each: NYC: 49th Street NRW The 3 train London: Chesham Met (Crystal Palace for an actually in London station) The Hammersmith & City Line
@AA_8184_1
@AA_8184_1 Жыл бұрын
Epic combo!! Love it!!❤
@Eurobazz
@Eurobazz Жыл бұрын
Having Geoff and Kilometres in Transit in the same video is a real delight.
@Photoline1
@Photoline1 Жыл бұрын
I visited Manhattan for 3 days/4 nights, which was nowhere near enough time. I arrived to conditions best described as "The Day After Tomorrow", but that didn't stop me getting around locally, thanks in large part to the subway system.
@DubGathoni
@DubGathoni 7 күн бұрын
Miles: the Z train only happens 6 times a day Geoff: laughs in once-a-day tube trains on the met.
@GryphLane
@GryphLane Жыл бұрын
I half expected a Park Bench graphic to crash in at the beginning, Tom and Matt style 😂
@abigailcooling6604
@abigailcooling6604 Жыл бұрын
You're not the only one.
@shreychaudhary4477
@shreychaudhary4477 Жыл бұрын
@@Gav_Jam they didnt do any new ones :'(
@GryphLane
@GryphLane Жыл бұрын
@@Gav_Jam Sadly not. They killed it back in 2016 I believe.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
What a crossover indeed.
@GryphLane
@GryphLane Жыл бұрын
We use at-grade in highways industry to describe junctions, generally substandard, and as opposed to grade separated 🙂
@ilovetrainjourneys5689
@ilovetrainjourneys5689 Жыл бұрын
Nice to have a chat
@wingshad0w00982
@wingshad0w00982 Жыл бұрын
As a New Yorker who has been to london, (and DC, Philly and Boston), I agree. No subway is better constructed than New Yorks. Pretty much all the ones I've been too are better maintained however. The Subway is getting better though, and that may change, or maybe we'll get back to the old ways. I rather *hope* not as there are several new infrastructure projects ongoing/recently completed (Second Ave, Grand Central LIRR, third Penn station access, third line on the LIRR, Moynihan Train hall etc.) so I have a bit of faith that the subway can be better.
@Bills200
@Bills200 Жыл бұрын
You are so right, I’ve never even thought about this but Berlin has the three bann lines
@hilleltulchin
@hilleltulchin Жыл бұрын
Slight correction/more information on the number/sizes of cars: the A Division runs 10 54-foot cars, or 11 54-foot cars on the 7. The B Division has 3 standards: most trains are 10 60-foot cars, but some older 75-foot cars are still around, and run in 8-car sets. The BMT Eastern Division (J, Z, M, and L trains) was built with shorter platforms and tighter curves, and uses 8 60-foot cars, which are also used on the C train for some reason. Then you have the shuttles. The 42nd St Shuttle uses 6 54-foot cars, the Franklin Ave shuttle uses 2 75-foot cars, and the Rockaway Park shuttle uses half-length B Division trains, which are extended to full-length on summer weekends.
@davidsp5936
@davidsp5936 Жыл бұрын
When you go to Boston, you should do a video about getting there, preferably by commuter rail! 🤪
@92xsaabaru-
@92xsaabaru- Жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with Miles that NYC has #1 service, but weak in stations. I'm a bit biased as a native but Chicago's L has the best passenger views since it is almost all above ground.
@gordonwerner
@gordonwerner Жыл бұрын
The IRT (A division) subway cars are 51 feet long, and 9 feet wide. The BMT/IND (B division the cars are 10 feet wide and either 60 or 75 feet long. IRT trains are 10 cars long excluding the shuttle which is 4 and the 7 which has 11 car trains. B,T/IND trains are either 8 cars (if using 75 foot cars) or 10 cars if using 60 foot cars.
@jg-7780
@jg-7780 Жыл бұрын
I think the red bulb used to have something to do with whether you could purchase a metrocard, but they've recently switched it to just mean exit only
@thebiblioholic
@thebiblioholic Жыл бұрын
Before the new South Ferry station was built, the old circular track and platform at South Ferry was only long enough for 5 cars, so only the front half of the train opened. And when the trains switched to having the conductor having a full-width cabin rather than just a small phone booth sized compartment, it was no longer possible to walk between the front and back halves of the train, so southbound trains going to South Ferry had to stop at Rector St and ensure that all passengers staying on to South Ferry exit the back half of the train, walk along the platform past the conductor position and reenter the train's front half. Otherwise if they ignore those instructions, they would not be able to exit at South Ferry and find themselves trapped until they could exit on the northbound platform of Rector Street on the trains northbound service. The new South Ferry station eliminated this with full length straight and parallel platforms so trains would reverse direction rather than loop around. Then Hurricane Sandy flooded the new station, and for a while they had to reopen the old circular platform while they rebuilt the new station.
@TheNails3
@TheNails3 10 ай бұрын
Wahey Geoff I have the same T-shirt, nice one!
@Eurobazz
@Eurobazz Жыл бұрын
The NYC grid system of streets is the reason why there are so many stations with the same naming convention. London is so different which is why there is only one Mornington Crescent.
@Flushing2Fishtown
@Flushing2Fishtown Жыл бұрын
So the Dual Contracts and the 5¢ fare are two different things. The Dual Contracts was in the 1910s when the city built subway lines which they then contracted the operation out to the IRT and BRT (predecessor to the BMT). The 5¢ fare actually predates the subways entirely and was mandated by the city in the 1890s for elevated trains and streetcars. It lasted until 1940 when the city took over operation of the subway system from the by then bankrupted subway companies. And yes, if you wanted to transfer between subway lines operated by different companies, you would have to pass through an additional set of turnstiles and pay an additional fare.
@HenrysAdventures
@HenrysAdventures Жыл бұрын
Talking of Express Metro trains, I wish we still had the Fast Amershams on the Met running all day.
@firesurfer
@firesurfer Жыл бұрын
Service (as a noun) refers to the original 3 companies property and stations. I believe there is an effort to redefine confusing station names over time. They deemphasize duplicative/confusing names. It's going to take forever. Service (as a verb) refers to daily running of train times. ''Out of the system's 472 stations, 283 are underground, 149 are elevated, 20 are in open cuts, 7 are at-grade, and 13 are on embankments. (I don't know what an ''embankment'' is.) Morris Park station (5) is all 3 at the same time. Partly underground, partly open cut, partly elevated. (also at grade and underground, but the under el staircase is long closed off.) There were a limited number of oddball ''extension shuttles'' that required an extra fare. They are all long gone.
@MrPaulFCockburn
@MrPaulFCockburn Жыл бұрын
For some reason, during this video I kept being distracted by the name plaque on the bench. Whoever he was, I hope that FF Gerard “Jerry” Dewan might have been pleased to know that, years after his death, a couple of weary transport KZbinrs would sit there “By the beach [he] loved so much”.
@TimRrstrm
@TimRrstrm Жыл бұрын
That is indeed a lovely pawrk you're sitting in.
@goose5
@goose5 Жыл бұрын
An interesting follow up to the IRT/BMT being sold to the city to create a unified system, and then eventually being folded into the MTA, is that the MTA is actually owned by the State of New York, not the city. Why? I honestly don't know without researching it more, but it might be a fun future topic!
@robert4travel
@robert4travel Жыл бұрын
Miles from Boston is certainly brave to come and talk about the NY subway. He got most facts right at least. Geoff should certainly go to Boston and visit the T! No interchanging trains there on all 4 underground lines. About different lines departing from the same platform: pretty much all lines have multiple lines/services stopping at the same platform. Only exceptions are the 7 and L which have their own dedicated tracks.
@TheFinnGamer
@TheFinnGamer Жыл бұрын
wow what a crossover
@SamNYC2000
@SamNYC2000 Жыл бұрын
Same favorite station, Miles
@roberteby2
@roberteby2 Жыл бұрын
"Do you think New York is better than London, or London better than New York?" Well, one item in NY's favor is that there are at least two iconic movies that feature the NY subway (The French Connection, and The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3)! I can't, offhand, think of any using the Underground! :-(
@michaeldwyer3352
@michaeldwyer3352 Жыл бұрын
what about Sliding Doors?
@ConcordeFan
@ConcordeFan Жыл бұрын
I love the reference to an a-ha song
@borassictime918
@borassictime918 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating - learned alot. The Canon ‘Cripple Hammer’ even affects Geoff’s clip recordings. It’s a camera conspiracy! 😉😆
@firesurfer
@firesurfer Жыл бұрын
The RIAA forced the camera companies to limit video recordings to 20 mins (not sure of the actual time limit). Shutdowns due to heat are a different issue.
@borassictime918
@borassictime918 Жыл бұрын
The limit was 29:59 mins and was applied to DSLRs back in the naughties. The EU collaborated in this artificial restriction, but not specifically because of what the RIAA did in the US, but because it imposed higher taxes on devices that could record continuously for 30 minutes of more - it’s always about money. This restriction was abolished about 5 years ago (when the UK was still in the EU) by the WTO (if my memory is right) and I’m sure Geoff’s UK camera is newer than that. Canon is known for crippling its devices seemingly to minimise sales cannibalisation from more its expensive models, eg its professional filmmaker cameras. The Camera Conspiracies YT channel has covered this lightheartedly for years.
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