The Camaro ZL1 1LE is a Brutal Daily…and Totally Worth It (POV Drive Review)

[@danieldickerson4838]

It’s a track *weapon* through and through, and it’s wonderful. Like, GM really didn’t leave anything on the table when they designed the ZLE for its intended purpose. Brutal, uncompromising, and potent are what I would call this beast.

[@MilesPerHr]

Agreed. It felt purpose- built for driving excellence

[@danieldickerson4838]

@@MilesPerHr How did it compare on the stiffness scale for you against the other high performance cars you’ve driven?

[@christopherwalker6056]

With 650 lb ft of torque, the same as hp I would say brutal is a perfect word.

[@jasonmacneil2256]

​@@MilesPerHrFirst off, the ZL1 is the SAME dimensions as the standard ZL1! You stated wrong that the ZL1 LE's are more flared!

[@Itsjamilagain]

​@@jasonmacneil2256Well, that's because it is. It's wider than the standard ZL1, hence the flares.

[@eddstarr2185]

The engineering behind this last generation of Camaro is amazing. From Palm Beach cruiser to Track spec, every flavor of the Camaro earns respect. Thank you Miles for taking the ZL1 1LE for a spin in the summertime oven. A turkey in a roasting pan in the back seat would've been fully cooked by rides end - just add stove-top stuffing! The things you do for your fans - awesome.

[@MilesPerHr]

😂 if it wasn't a turkey in the back seat, it was a fully-cooked driver. So glad you enjoyed the ride, Edd!

[@Kona5.0]

As a die-hard Mustang enthusiast - i have nothing but pure respect for the ZL1 1LE. Its an outstanding package in every way. If only there were enough money, i'd be proud to one one right alongside my other cars!

[@hhaste]

Aside from the blind spot(s), I agree. The rear, passenger side blind spot is *_SO_* bad, I actually completely changed my mind about purchasing a 1SS 1LE Camaro, after sitting in a ZL1.. It's literally dangerous to drive on the road, without the 2SS blind spot monitoring. You might be able to get used to it over time, I don't know but I don't think I'm going to find out.

[@ronhargrove1176]

@@hhaste you can’t see from the sides or something when you are in it because I heard you have to lean to see the light turn green that’s the only con I’ve heard so far

[@Triptisim]

I’m so glad I got one of these before Chevy discontinues them. All the 6th gen’s are incredible but the ZL1 is really something special. For 3800lbs it’s so fast and really dances in the corners with smaller and lighter cars. Unbeatable performance and character for the price. Plus loved seeing the Camaro (and ZL1) name out at LeMans this year!!

[@axstin-]

I may not have one yet, but one way or another, I’ll get one 💀

[@TacticalToolbox]

I had a 2020 ZLE for a while and it wasn't that brutal of a ride. The wife didn't even complain

[@MilesPerHr]

Standard or 1LE?

[@ceomark.]

I’d prefer the normal ZL1 but they’re all great. I’m used to the blind spots so they aren’t terrible, if you flip the switch on the bottom of the rear view mirror the camera will turn on to help with visibility. & the ambient lighting looks great at night.

[@cre2368]

Just got a 2023 ZL1 1LE A10; originally had a 2018 M6 but the dampers began leaking and the dealer forgot to include the warranty so was able to give me a refund. The suspension is rough, but how bad it is for you just depends on your tolerance; I had an OG M2 with coil overs as a daily and that car was WAY more harsher so this feels a little better. My biggest worry was visibility, but It was actually really quickly to adapt to, just extend your mirrors and boom. Belt line was another worry, as I always park in in-door parking lots, but it was actually not bad, even around tight corners. The car feels smaller than it actually is. Part of me wishes for the M6 again, but this was the only ZLE I saw being sold at MSRP, others had at least a 10k markup as it was a 2023. Ultimate track daily.

[@bignickenergy2042]

Why on earth would you get a 1le in a 10 speed auto?

[@ajisuleiman1484]

The car I've dreamed of the most throughout my life is not a Ferrari, not a Lamborghini, but a Camaro zl1 1le 😍

[@kermitpurcell6432]

Great video! They did start offering the 10speed auto in the 1LE in 2019.

[@MilesPerHr]

You are correct. I completely missed that. Thanks!

[@aw9966]

4:53 Actually it they offer a 10 speed Automatic transmission as an option in the newer models.

[@MilesPerHr]

Right you are! I hadn't realized they'd updated that.

[@christopherwalker6056]

That is a beautiful car. My uncle retired from GM and would NOT drive anything but a GM car. He owned GTO's, Firebirds, and a 1961 corvette. He always said since 2005, if he was to buy a Ford, the mustang GT or Shelby would be it. He passed away a few years ago. I think he would approve of this car. 😊

[@BertShackleford]

Miles my man, May we request a review of the _non-1LE_ version of the ZL1 with a manual? That latter being the most important factor. Please and thank you. Your last review of the (non-1LE) Camaro ZL1 was approximately six years ago and it was not your standard filming format. Since that time, your presentation has gotten tremendously better. Not to mention your cinematography has vastly improved. In fact, I can safely say that you have become my preferred POV automotive channel. I would like to point out that you annotate what functions you are changing along the drive. As well as what button(s) you are pushing to achieve said function. Plus I prefer your locale versus oh let's say...Michigan but I digress. Nevertheless getting back to the topic at hand. In my humble opinion, the 1LE track pack places the Camaro ZL1 *_firmly_* on the motorsports end of the spectrum. Sure you can daily drive it but you are only kidding yourself. It is what I call a 'high risk - high reward' gamble. This is why I think the standard ZL1 6spd _without_ the 1LE track package is the ideal everyday driver. With all that being said, in twenty years time I guarantee we will be seeing ZL1's crossing the Barrett-Jackson Auction block (as long as they have a manual transmission). Mark my words. Stay classy my friends.

[@bobjenkins3742]

stay classy

[@MilesPerHr]

Hey Bert, thank you for the kind words and detailed feedback. I was on the lookout for a non-1LE ZL1 to review as well, but couldn't find one nearby. I'll keep looking, and hope to review that along with an SS (1LE or non) in the near future!

[@Networkstuffsss]

@@MilesPerHr I tried offering you a ZL1 manual non 1le but you said no :D

[@drizziog492]

Just purchased a 2018 zl1 1le so glad I got one before they’re not around anymore

[@Greygoose3130]

I think the ZL1 is underrated in terms of its sound/engine tone. I think it’s the best sounding version of the LT4 and one of the best sounding modern muscle cars, if not the best- and I’ve had a GT350

[@MilesPerHr]

That's high praise - I love the GT350's soundtrack!

[@JiminFallRiver]

I’m a Chevy guy through and through but I test drove a GT 350 before buying my zl1 1le. I fell in love with that voodoo motor. It is absolutely hands-down the best sounding motor ever made.

[@17slickace]

​@@JiminFallRiverreliability not so much

[@JesusLopez-xc4rc]

Never found the sound of A/C annoying, don’t worry Miles you do you!

[@MilesPerHr]

Thank goodness, cuz I would have passed out without it! 😆

[@antonovkouakouthoussin3660]

Wow this car is a monster. I would like to tell you that you're my best cars reviewer on KZbin thanks MPH

[@MilesPerHr]

Thank you for the support!

[@antonovkouakouthoussin3660]

I'm from a French speaking country, you've not review a French car yet I'm looking forward to see that

[@javierjavier-ht3yu]

The really best part of all is driving with the highway empty and to see the beautiful landscape.

[@GoldPhoenix]

My brother has one with the 10 speed. Absolutely brutal

[@camarbro1le]

Greatest car out there I got a SS1le hope to get a ZL1 soon 🇺🇸💪🙏

[@javierjavier-ht3yu]

The landscape is pretty nice and the contrast with the highway is awesome.

[@trnikeem]

wow i was just searching for videos like this seeing how it daily’s glad you made a video

[@MilesPerHr]

Right on! Glad to help.

[@jcartier9yearsago403]

actually after 2019, they offered the automatic and manual with the 1LE’s. both SS and ZL1.

[@bignickenergy2042]

Bros driving down the shittiest roads possible in a track car thinking thats how it is everywhere😂

[@ericg5416]

Great review - agree the somewhat stiff suspension can be a bit much at times but when you’re carving up a highway, it’s pure nirvana. Glad I got one of the last ‘23 ZL1 1LE’s with a manual. This car is literally like driving a circus every day - in a good way.

[@awad507]

Bro I believe that if have the Camaro Zl1 you won’t be in need to turn on some music She has her own tunes 😮‍💨♥️ My dream car hopefully this dream will come true once 🙏🏻 .

[@kristoferfc6525]

It could be the height that it's at, since you can adjust the height. I drove a 1LE ZL1 and loved it and wasn't bad on rougher roads, so I ordered one

[@atharnasim7244]

Finally after making so many requests 🙂👍

[@MilesPerHr]

I was working hard to find one! Glad to make it happen!

[@dr.andrewmarone8197]

I love my 2018 ZL1!

[@heyitsnick6648]

FINALLY A CAMARO HOPEFULLY A SS soon 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@javierjavier-ht3yu]

Congratulations, my friend , all this is totally funny, I apprecciate your effort.

[@shmoofgang]

I like your adjectives they’re low key on point 😂horn is “complainy” suspension is “busy”

[@Eminetics]

It’s a shame it’s being discontinued 😢

[@telliesmith9825]

I want a zl1 personally but if your like this owner who tracks his yeah the 1le for sure

[@Problem-mattic]

Early ZL1 1LE cars are manual only but in 2019 you could option the 10 speed automatic.

[@itzjetlife3639]

absolutely in love wit this car

[@siksvt33]

I already own a 2020 GT500 but I wouldn’t mind adding one of these to the collection👍

[@MarkLloyd-yo4li]

The chevrolet camaro looks better than all of them

[@HemiBurns]

1LE for that win

[@vybesrum3195]

Thanks, Home Depot, for letting him film this great car.

[@MilesPerHr]

😆

[@andrew816]

My dream car bruh

[@fanboy7_got7]

I love this car.. Thank you for your review on this car

[@MilesPerHr]

Awesome! Thanks for watching

[@simonriddick]

Just hearing that low rumble as he's cruising makes me miss my V8 car so much. I have a turbo car now and even though it moves decent it doesn't have that sound and feel. One day.

[@timr31908]

Pat's car sounds almost as good as a 427 Fe

[@glitcherPROXx]

Hwy 39 I know that road like the back of my hand I use to ride my 2014 r6 out there. Try hwy 2 next °9 miles° kinda far in the back of mountains good place to test high speed and cornering.

[@TheProNixk]

That is why I’m copping the base model gonna daily it, I don’t plan on tracking it, no reason for the 1LE

[@user-nightmarehaunts]

I have driven this car.. (in a game)

[@JohnSchneider-o4r]

My ‘20 SS 1LE tram-lined like crazy when the tires were newer

[@MilesPerHr]

Dang - same compound?

[@Mkway155]

car so fire, cant say the same with the interior..

[@midnightracerplayz]

Bro what?? The Camaro interior imo has the best interior compared to the Mustang and Challengers and Chargers. Ofc it’s a bit claustrophobic for some but it makes it feel like a Supercar to me and like you are strapped into a Batmobile/tank

[@Mkway155]

@@midnightracerplayz yeah it’s better than those other cars. But a Honda is a millions times better. Like every time I see a cameo steering wheel I feel sick 🤣

[@prodnxbu]

@@Mkway155 Did you just compare a Honda to a Camaro? What Honda are you comparing this to?? The NSX?

[@midnightracerplayz]

@@Mkway155hmm idk about that, but then again, I don’t really follow the interiors of cars I’m not interested in owning. I own a Toyota Corolla and it’s got a pretty clean interior even if it’s just cloth seats and analog gauges

[@OrbitTheFox]

braindead

[@therealtae283]

I will have that ZL1 1LE 😮‍💨🔥

[@haircafekevin]

Such a cool car, but the late 90s and early 2000s f-body Z28 and SS are still my favourite Camaros.

[@tylerkuchta1813]

7:16 on the nurburg, for originally 65k or so. American track weapon

[@tylerkuchta1813]

23 seconds faster around the ring than the gt500, cost less. 23 entire seconds

[@Abuu.Hussein]

It’s really sad to see the Camaro go it was one of a kind

[@DakotaThePawgHunter]

This and c7s are the best looking cars imo

[@iamturtle4989]

My favorite car by far

[@ramincheraghi4235]

Audition for voice acting its calm and beautiful you should be a book reader or something

[@darnellthornton2506]

Great review and great driving you make it look east and hanging on the corners for you was effortless happy to see thus review done so mutch I might go check one out myself thanks again!

[@captainjinx42]

I have the zl1 1le m6. It’s really if you live in decent roads. Here in the south it’s pretty much fine overall as a daily. Wouldn’t recommend in places like Michigan go for regular zl1 lol.

[@Derekjeterlover7]

Florida with a LT1- V8 and 6MT checking in! I love this chassis (I understand how different the ZLE is)

[@decent-gaming_.]

That's my favorite car i love it

[@675LT-green]

i have one too, manual, and i love it, great car💪😍

[@Jonathannetworkspeedtester]

This baby sounds good😊

[@diehardmemer8626]

camaro is my dream car since i was 6 and when ill be turning 18 (in 2024) they will cease the production of camaros😣😭

[@howlthehell9791]

Love these Camaros

[@panagiotisf7228]

I has solid cradle bushing and stiffer arm and sway bar bushing all around lol if u want comfort u get a regular zl1 or a cadillac.

[@Adam80m8]

Put michelin pilot 4s on and it's much cushier

[@javierjavier-ht3yu]

Hey buddie really you´re an expert driver, I have no doubt about it.

[@mji9208]

Is the “base” zL1 a little better on the streets? As far as comfort

[@MilesPerHr]

I plan on finding out soon! Going to drive the non-1LE 10spd in a couple weeks

[@johnbelovsky1844]

OMG YYYEEEESSSS😅 I have a 19 ZL1 1LE

[@harrybaulsach]

You own a detail shop but you give the car to a youtuber dirty 😂

[@Zoneeee13]

Finally, you gotta do a c7 z06 z07 or a cftp gt500 now 😩

[@MilesPerHr]

Would be awesome!

[@Zoneeee13]

@@MilesPerHryeah man or a gt350/350r

[@hhaste]

C7 would overheat before it's finished

[@AlexReyTheBest]

Excelente reseña, me encantan tus videos, los veo todos, ahora para cuando la reseña del nuevo Mustang Dark Horse en manual porsupuesto?, también seria fantástico compararlo con este Camaro ZL1 en sus principales competidores, saludos!!!.

[@nickviet9274]

If I were to get a Camaro, this is the design I want

[@3turbo144]

You should still find a regular ZL1 or SS 1LE to drive! You need a smooth fast road to fully exploit the ZL1 1LE's extra aero and grip over a regular ZL1. On that tight bumpy road an SS 1LE would be better because its lighter and has mag ride, and a regular ZL1 would be a better daily if you aren't tracking much because you still get most of the handling but more comfort when just cruising around

[@MilesPerHr]

I know of an SS 1LE I could review!

[@Slowcarfastbeans]

I concur. Rear end can be easily upset over uneven pavement. Softer suspension would be easier to drive fast on public roads.

[@mbagwell2607]

@@MilesPerHr Please do! I am considering both!

[@roddavis6327]

I wouldn’t buy somthing with 650 hp to drive 55 mph everywhere. Not a hater but I could have hit those same corners in my type r at 75 no problem . Nice car though . The main thing is they are both manual . Save the manuals. Type r is comfortable, practical , fast , and weighs a lot less so you can really toss it everywhere.

[@DakotaThePawgHunter]

For the last zl1 they should put the lt5 in it, but I’m pretty sure they are just keeping the same old 650hp

[@DMCarReviews]

Why always mention "independent" tests? They have ideal testing conditions, and they also do weather adjustments on times. Real world results are what matter. Sometimes they can be even faster than magazines, while other times they are not that close.

[@gtrance3567]

Incredible looking car but there’s no way I would daily drive that.

[@robertsole9970]

So the 1LE does not have magnaride? It’s fixed suspension?

[@endgam3ss64]

Maybe it’s just me but I don’t mind the bumps on the road in the ZL1 1LE I barely even notice lol

[@Ibrahim.08]

Will it be available for 2024?

[@MilesPerHr]

2024 is the last model year

[@alengreen589]

I like it very much 😀👍

[@LevelUpSimRacing]

Maybe i missed it, but was this with the factory tires?

[@winter4953]

seats for the kids !!! 👍

[@stevezx900]

You want a daily buy a GR Corolla. This a a weapon! Use it to have fun!

[@Abzocold]

Why would you not also compare it to the Roush Stage 3 Mustang? Not quite as good on the track but possibly a little quicker and a lot more livable as a daily.

[@youheminow3925]

13:21 I would have driven straight off the cliff lol

[@nostalgiegenie]

For what are they Paddels on the wheel ?

[@momchilmarinov2625]

Can’t wrap my head around the fact that this thing does 60mph/100 kph in first gear lol

[@WD.909]

Wait, the camaro is going to be discontinued???

[@MilesPerHr]

Yea 😭

[@Jeyhendrix]

I NEED THE NIGHT TIME POV‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@MilesPerHr]

Ah dang, wish I could - but this was an owner's car, not a week-long loan

[@ITSJUSTA997]

Ct5 v black wing also has an option as the same tr6060 6 speed manual as well.but why have 4 doors and 4200-4400 lbs when a zl1 1le is 2 door still manual and 4000 lbs to 3900 lbs

[@MilesPerHr]

Yep, I own the CT5-V Blackwing. In my case, I have the two extra doors for my two kiddos 😜

[@thebluemenace99]

Elantra N at 13:01

[@jorgeirizarry5971]

I just need to know how much worse of a daily the ZL1 1LE is compared to a SS 1LE. I think I'm ready for a ZL1 1LE after 3 months of ownership of a SS 1LE manual.

[@MJofficial497]

Zl1 looks better than the ILe

[@neo4102]

my 2SS with mag ride feels like a cadillac in touring mode - not worth buying this unless its solely as a track weapon lol

[@omidy87]

Any plans to test the new Volvo EX30? Curious if it outperforms a Tesla Model Y.

[@MilesPerHr]

Hoping to, yes!

[@omidy87]

@@MilesPerHr that would be sick. Will keep an eye out. Thanks again

[@TheBoringWallCompany]

if you are a real car guy this car is not as stiff as ppl make it out to seem. It rides like aftermarket coilovers but its plush inside that you really dont feel it

[@z06camaro]

No one dailys a zl1 1le haha, I like my zl1 1le exactly the way it is.

[@optimus3305]

Does the”motor” sit in the engine bay or does the engine sit in the”motor” bay?

[@baconeggstoast5327]

So what your saying is the 2ss is enough for daily driver

[@brq44]

Front end looks like the nascar le mans car

[@kpatt2006]

Lexus RC cars have always been overpriced, but the ZL1 may be just right. Definitely more fun than the GT500 because you can shift your gears.