Military service in Finland

[@vilimylly]

As someone currently in the Finnish military, I can confirm these things are really true.

[@eikeksimimea1071]

Morgons

[@petrinisumaa4759]

Kiitos siitä, että hoidat oman osuutesi!

[@pohjantuulet247]

Muja, ilmoitti 2/19, jo pitkällä reservin auringossa

[@Superbus753]

Well not too different from the Swiss Military

[@vilimylly]

@@Superbus753 Well I don't know the Swiss military so well, but I can imagine it being similar

[@lottaraatikainen3942]

Having served a year in the military and given birth to two kids I have the rare privilege of being able to tell both inttijuttu and synnytysjuttu

[@yesseru]

I like your funny words magic man.

[@SakkePie]

Unlimited sauna topics. Gz

[@Verhotanko46]

@@yesseru i thought it was obvious from her comment but she is indeed not a Man.

[@cantinadudes]

​@@Verhotanko46its a meme

[@gorauma]

@@Verhotanko46 She's a Man in the sense of belonging to mankind. i could make a joke that she manned up birthing people but that's not what men can do. So respect for that.

[@sarders7116]

There are also benefits you can gain from the service. If you serve as truck driver you get truck driving licence and working permit for free to drive in civilian world. People like me who drove the big rigs with trailers got somewhere around 15k worth of permits and licences for free. Only "downside" is to serve full year. Best year in my life. 1/21 BECE

[@mandelin0]

Good point. There are also other benefits you can gain, but the driving licences are probably the biggest ones

[@Resident-cb3yz]

I drived motorcycle and moottorikelkka in army. Fun times.

[@Pyhantaakka]

@@mandelin0 The greatest benefits are the cornerstones of deep leadership.

[@justskip4595]

@@mandelin0 Things might have changed, but I seem to remember that if you somehow manage to get yourself into the pilot training, you got to sing papers to be in the military for some time and in the process you get pilots training and licensing so you can go and study a bit more to make a career out of that in civilian world afterwards. If I remember right, non insignificant percentage of Finnair pilots can fly fighter jets.

[@mikadsu]

Shame my tank license doesnt work as civilian

[@vaenii5056]

There is no need to speculate about the size of Finnish Army - it is around 280,000 soldiers. That is the amount of people that would be initially mobilized in case of war and it would happen quickly. This is usually referred as the wartime strength. However the total amount of people with military training between ages 18 - 50 is around 900,000. Think of it as kind of reserve pool that can be used to replenish losses or form new units after some refreshing if need be. It is not possible to mobilize those 900,000 at once because the society has to keep functioning somehow even during a war. For example during the Continuation War the peak strength was around 700,000 soldiers and the average around 450,000.

[@KoteDarasuum]

Around continuation war Finland only had 3.5 million people so in modern Finland of 5 and half million people we could easily have military more than what our ww2 war time strenght was. Only issue would be equipment, but thats what the old Chinee and DDR AK's are for, to equip the 2nd and 3rd grade reserves

[@Resident-cb3yz]

More than million soldiers if needed. At age of 43 i am on reserve before my dad :D Old men will go to war too in Finland. Lots of places to defend and oldies can make suprise attacks. There are military bunkers that have guns, explosives and all kind of gear literally in every city.

[@RealChiku]

Take note that back then, Finland had a population of 3.9 million. And now, that finland has more equipment (new equipment can arm the 280000 soldiers.) in desperate defensive measures, we have a stockade of WW2 era rifles, the old KPs, and old RK's, along with the old artillery being stored in longtime storage. In desperate defense, we can arm up to 800000 soldiers simultaneously, because we have, just working assault rifles, for almost 600000 people (The foreign supply stored, we have about 20k RK95's for special forces, 350000 RK62s, 100000 RK 72's bought from Germany in the cold war era, 100000 Type 62 chinese AK rifles, and also, unspecified amount of AK47's) and few thousand different foreign bought rifles. Depending on the amount of AK's bought in the 50's and 60's, which there could be, potentially, about 100000 of them) we could arm majority of the reserve army instantaneously with automatic rifles. To add to this, we also have hundred's of thousands of different specialized guns (Machine guns, marksman rifles, sniper rifles, etc) to arm specialists with. Not to count local militias that would be formed and supplied by the army with even older guns like Mosin Nagants, etc rifles that are still in long term storage. To add to this, we have over 80000 infantry carried anti tank weapons, while for example, russia has around 3000 tanks, so we could even arm one in every three soldiers in the first response, with anti tank weapons.

[@HoseTheBeast]

Can confirm it would be very fast. I've done multiple recap field training exercise as a reservist where we "deployed" as we would if it was the real situation. It was exactly 24hrs from arriving to the barracks to being somewhere in eastern Finland with our positions fully prepared and battle ready. I was a conscript in the Armored Brigade/ armored Anti-Air battery

[@JokuRandomPoju]

Suurin osa tosta 900k on jokatapauksessa jotain kjeh räh tier ressuja tai maakkeja :D

[@Idk20tq]

My dad has Finnish blood and now lives in the uk. He hasn’t made me a Finnish National so that I wouldn’t have to move to finalnd and do this. But it’s kinda cool to think that people like Kimi Räikkönen have been to the military.

[@juhokaartoaho]

Assuming that you live in another country and work there you are not mandated to take part as long as you don't move to Finland too young. If you move to Finland you can be called into service up to 30 years old. After that you will not be conscripted. So assuming you wan't to grow and live in your current country and would like dual nationality, there is really nothing stopping you on that front. And if at some point you wanna move to Finland, as long as you are past 30, you don't have to serve.

[@Idk20tq]

@@juhokaartoaho yeah thanks my dad has told me this and he says if I want I can become after I’m 30 but it’s a headache otherwise :)

[@peabase]

An Australian-born cousin of mine served in the Finnish military. He could've gotten a deferment, but he opted for a six-month "holiday" in his ancestral lands. As a bookish type he disliked the harsh training, except the part where he shared an apartment with two rather attractive female volunteer conscripts, also from Australia, during weekend leaves.

[@neodinium7316]

Finnish born here, lived in another country long enough that I could've been like ahh.. yea nah mate

[@Ba_Yegu]

@@Idk20tq You do not have a Finnish Citizenship so You are not obliged for conscription or even allowed to join the Finnish Military. Finland is not Israel. Nor Russia. 😉

[@MKnife]

Asento! Luutnantti Mandelin, you have been awarded 5 days of kuntoisuusloma due to the excellence of this presentation. Enjoy. Lepo!

[@albux]

Regarding the ending: VMTL = Medical Release From March and Combat Service/Training

[@seriousspikesam7770]

My father told me a military story. Apparently he and his friend were overseeing a fitness test and decided to give an overweight guy a slightly higher score than usual. As a result, he was chosen to run communication cables between the radio stations in the battlefield. All he had to say was "thanks a lot, guys." Needless to say, at the end of his service he was a lot skinnier and in a fit condition. Strangely enough, I think he actually thanked my dad and his friend in the end.

[@mandelin0]

Aamuja

[@dmuppimies]

Suomi on kessällä talvi ja talvi on kesä.

[@dmuppimies]

Tosi vammaiset säät

[@jupo672]

Morgons, tornar say 2/22 never homefies

[@CorporalCookie]

TJ0, joten eiköhän laiteta Ihana Aamu soimaan kaikille niille joilla niitä on jäljellä.

[@k_rbiskuchen3032]

As a Swiss person (we have the same system) I appreciate to hear you guys up there have it the same

[@venlahyvarinen3249]

My brother just finished reserve officer school in Hamina. Whole family is so proud of him

[@randommixes7615]

what is his branch -gonakuski Haminasta

[@Vulcaani]

It should be an aspiration for every young man - to be leader of men.

[@ristusnotta1653]

@@Vulcaani that is not the right reason to become on officer tho, only because you want to boss people around :D

[@Vulcaani]

You show your infantile understanding about leadership. It is not "bossing people around". It is about example, respect, trust and hardships. Leader always sacrifices the most, if he does it properly. Aspring to take up the duty of a leader should be a goal in itself. All the material benefits (leadership experience, dopamine highs, good friends etc) are just side bonus.

[@Vulcaani]

@NOTaBOT Yes

[@davethehusky9409]

as someone who was in the armored brigade as a mechanic, those backing up into a wall or other vehicles happen very easily when it's the new conscripts driving/helping move the armored vehicle inside a confined space.

[@Darnihx]

i can also add to that some military truck drivers are a danger to themselves and everyone around them. I was one last year and there were a few "forced" to be one and they made some very dangerous errors and were overall really bad drivers even after they had got their license

[@davethehusky9409]

@@Darnihx oh yeah definitely

[@Obnoxymoron]

Both the driver and the one directing the tank with handsigns were new conscripts. I was close to finishing my year of having fun in and around tanks while thinking "Oh, I haven't taken a video of a Leo 2A4 on the move yet" and started filming.. :D No damage to the cannon but the thin sheet metal wall of the shelter folded like paper and got bent out. I gave a decent sized rock to the dude and instructed him to do some percussive maintenance on the shelter wall.

[@taistelusammakko5088]

​@@Obnoxymoronse halli missä video kuvattiin on vielä nykyäänkin legendaarinen, ja jälki näkyy vielä t: 2/22 leo ukko

[@KorianHUN]

​@@Obnoxymoron one of my fathers childhood stories is the occupying soviet conscripts taking a turn badly and demolishing the wall of a house not once, but at least THREE separate times. First time the man inside only survived because his bed was tall enough the mud guard on the tank pushed it through the room instead of running over it. Sounds like finnish conscripts are elite commandos compared to these guys.

[@onecow7526]

These are the best videos in the whole of youtube, please dont stop.

[@bryno9019]

Currently doing my military service without knowing the Finnish language in Kajaani. I have Finnish blood but have lived in Australia my whole life. It’s going well 👍🏻

[@onnisonni1876]

I had a fella from Broome in my squad. He couldn't speak Finnish either, exept he learned all the importent stuff like, lets go to sotku etc

[@kimmoj2570]

@Bryno90 I had also "tupakaveri" who was Aussie Finn over 30 years a go. You guys who come to serve are prime example of Finnish exceptionalism. Have a good and rewarding time here. 😄

[@kimmoj2570]

Do Army still pay flights for 1 vacation in middle of service?

[@onnisonni1876]

@@kimmoj2570 Yea he went to the Stralia at least once while serving.

[@kimmoj2570]

Its really nice to see the spirit in these Aussie Finnish immigrants. Its my time to serve the "old country" and lads come from other side of world. These guys would come also to fight, if needed. Aussies have long history coming for their motherland and allies. Gallipoli, Western desert, and even Vietnam. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3inma2MnpaVp7c

[@ymyone]

I was born in Australia and went back to do my national service in the late eighties. Proudest moment of my life.

[@GamingCooki]

I finished my conscription in the Estonian military this year and form this video both military conscriptions seem similar

[@peabase]

We trained you guys for a while after independence. That might explain it.

[@Ari-gm7pr]

En arvosta...

[@ristusnotta1653]

@@Ari-gm7pr miksi et

[@Ari-gm7pr]

@@ristusnotta1653 se nyt vaan on niin että jos tällaiset pienet maat haluaa olla olemassa niin ainoa asia minkä kansalainen voi tehdä on asepalvelus.

[@ristusnotta1653]

@@Ari-gm7pr kyllä mutta miksi ja mitä et arvosta kun niin kirjotit?

[@TheEvilFoxy]

The military service culture is a pretty neat cultural thing in my mind. It doesn't matter if the Finnish man did his military service in the 1950s or 2020s, they'll always have at least one common thing to talk about.

[@billw.overbeck8913]

Yeah a culture of bullying and räcism. And mold rooms, those are the best.

[@emil3458]

@@billw.overbeck8913 Russian bot trying to lower morale

[@KallioHater]

@@billw.overbeck8913 Never saw any bullying in the army, actually it was much easier to make friends there

[@Sirialy]

I want to point out, conscripts do get to touch a fighter jet, and quite a bit. You have to apply to be an "apumekaanikko" thru special forces application. This way after youve done your basic and nco training in tikkakoski, you will move to another location, most go to rovaniemi or karjalan lennosto. These conscripts will perform daily checks on the airplane and are a vital part of the ground crew of eatch fighter jet.

[@Jalkamies]

Become one of those legendary lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas?

[@Sirialy]

@@Jalkamies Pretty much

[@jakoblindelof92]

Finland have a great mandatory military service. I am from Sweden and we have like 100 dudes who are 50 year old men in the homeguard. Not even the real army. Finland on the other hand has got 900 000 reserve 280k active force that can be called in quickly. You can serve as a private NCO or reserve officer. There are many exciting roles aswell from artillery, boarderjeager, journalist etc. Great work Finland as a Swede I am jealous of your great system. Never remove it!!

[@kkooda2424]

only enough equipment for 300k ppl

[@steifan]

yeah no we have 9400 officers, 5100+4400 professional soldiers + part time professional soldiers, 20100 home guards (mostly former army or navy conscripts, spread out through the entire country) and 6800 reserve officers. Around 5000 people in continuous conscript training (scaling up to 8000), mandatory both for men & women but few in numbers. Would probably be able to hold off land invasions from Denmark or Norway xD xD xD

[@scruffy7760]

Sweden has some 900,000 conscripts trained between 1980 and 2020. 20k in the regular armed forces and 20k in the Homeguard (possibly could double in number by next year). The real difference is repitition training, but Sweden is slowly getting that started and calling in people who have done conscription in the last 10 years to retrain.

[@jakoblindelof92]

@@scruffy7760 what on earth are we going to do with men who did military service between 1980-1999? Expect them to fight? Those in 1980 are retirement age. And almost noone has done it every year since 2000.

[@scruffy7760]

How do you think Finland gets their 900,000 😂 Its the same thing. We've roughly got conscripts 100,000 since the year 2000. 300,000 when you add the conscripts from the 90s. That's how you get these large numbers. The real difference is that we stopped with repitition training. But like I said, conscripts from 2010 and onward are being called to do repitition exercises now. So while things are moving slowly, they are at the same time picking up pace

[@ottoahlo6203]

Currently laying in the barracks watching this, 199 mornings left🥱

[@mandelin0]

vähiin käy ennenkuin loppuu

[@LeinoSmaul]

mornings

[@Henry-ij3ks]

its easy to speak inttijuttuja, easiest way to find something common to talk with most of the guys even the random ones, usually when u r drunk, and this goes along your lifetime. :D

[@ylli966]

I have to go there next year and im excited but at the same time anxious a bit too considering my Finnish language is limited and being 26 years old.

[@justusP9101]

Kyllä se hyvin menee

[@lardemor9375]

How’s it going now?

[@MrBanaanipommi]

unlike russia, we actually have something nice to be in to hold the line against ENEMY if they are coming against us. also we all kinda trust everyone else in the army because they have done all the same stuff as "you" have done. not like in russian army. as told, even homeless people is living better than the soldiers of russian army in their own positions and so.... :D

[@sautari7474]

Well, not everyone do the same things, not even close.

[@karrikemppainen1535]

@@sautari7474 not invalid point regarding the russian army nontheless. 🤔

[@sautari7474]

@@karrikemppainen1535 did i say something about the russians tho?

[@karrikemppainen1535]

@@sautari7474 not you, but the one who started this did

[@karrikemppainen1535]

To clarify, my reply to you was to complement who'm you replied to

[@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja]

There's also the fouth option: be crazy, you'll get C papers like me.

[@atnfn]

I probably got that too, a doctor felt sorry for me and figured this guy has no chance in the military.

[@fisuboi4286]

That picture at 2:35 of corporal's badge is from my chest :D some guy on a parade day just came and asked if he could take a picture of it for Wikimedia Commons and I agreed :D

[@timoilonen1926]

And the video is 6 minutes and 12 seconds!🇫🇮💪

[@jomppe9243]

4:10 My god...Having these during RUK in 2017 gave me severe PTSD. Farts smelled like taco stew for days and the tent smelled like shit whenever someone ate one. Never forget. I think there is an international convention forbidding eating taco stew as it is a chemical weapon. Hengi hyvä gundo gova sissid baras :DDDDDDDD

[@avitutus_monni]

3:12 Nyt tuli legendaarinen niin kovaa takavasemmalta ettei voinu kun nauraa :D

[@elkkukontturi4500]

4th option is that you get drunk and go to kutsunta and get C paper.

[@Palilalia22]

Parola panzer brigade, never forget when i was just turned 18yo and i got to drive T-55-tank, back in the days, now we have Leopard 2A6-MBT's. 😀

[@Lahtiman81]

6 months were enough thank you.

[@piritualisti]

Herra Alikerstantti mulla on VMTL

[@suomalain3n765]

again awesome video:D dont stop making these

[@zache4821]

When I went to the interview thingy the 3 people asked if I can speak Finnish (since on paper I speak Swedish as my native tounge) and when I said "of course" they were like "alright" and still continued speaking Swedish. Plus you can still get permission to not join the military. I got a paper where I'm free from joining unless we go to war, just thought I'd add that

[@ultimatefriikki]

For clarification, your physical and mental health is considered prior and during your service. The prior health check also gives you a "fit to serve" classification, which ranges from A to T. A being fully fit to serve, B being restricted to light roles due to health problems, like having knee problems, surgical problems or being obese etc. C being unfit to serve during peace time, usually due to major health risks/problems, like a condition of weak joints, degrading hearing, extreme obesity etc. E being unfit to serve at this time, like prior to a surgery, major family related issues or anything that really needs to be treated/handled before entering service, but you have already been given a conscription order. Usually moves your start date by a year. T being unfit to serve due to major mental health problems. You'll propably lose your drivers license if you recieve a T classification. All of the above can be also given during service, if something happens. I was almost given a C two weeks before my service was done for having such bad eyesight, had to really contest the staff that I'm good, just let me be.

[@JokuRandomPoju]

In reality if you really dont want to go , and you dont suffer from mental or physical problems, you can just make shit up. Nowadays serving is basically a choice if you're savvy, i know many people who dodged service by literally making shit up lmao. One guy blatantly admitted he smokes weed daily and they just handed him the C-papers.

[@unknownentity8256]

@@ultimatefriikki Kait sitä voi kakkulat päässä nähä vielä? Vai voiko olla niin paska näkö ettei lasitkaa riitä?

[@ultimatefriikki]

@@unknownentity8256 jos ei erota ryssää sataan viiteenkymppiin ilman laseja niin heikkopa tuo on timppana olla, nykyään näkee hyvin 👍

[@arnoldcoleman14]

The matress is the most comfortable bed i have ever layed on, because to even get to the matress you have to go trough wet and dirty conditions for hours on end with no rest or food. Even building the tent takes hours with the half assed losers you have to put up with. By the time you get the kamiina (heater) on and lay down in warmth you have no complaints.

[@jnsjknn]

I find it hilarious how these videos are made so that a non-Finnish person could easily understand them, including some of the jokes, but only a Finn will understand all of the jokes.

[@dankplankfgc]

u dont say :O

[@oscix]

Haha, so true. Im a finn and have served half a year and somehow I found it the most funny about the sleeping mattresses "chances are that you won't be using it that much". I got an average of about 3 hours of sleep per day during exercises in the woods (or whatever its called) lasting about a week. Once I came to the tent to find out that it was basically full (I could have woken people up and asked them to move), so I was just like whatever and slept under a tree instead for a whopping 1,5 hours that night. Yeah imagine the stupid things that happen when everyone are so tired and exhausted all the time during these exercises. That is how stories are made.

[@ikecoldd2]

My dads best inttijuttu is spending the night of his 20th birthday guarding some stuff in -20C winter weather lol

[@LegoAnimations6370]

Hienoja aikoja 2/2020 Kainuussa ja sitten myöhemmin Rajan tuntumassa viestintävarusmiehenä.

[@Skege1000]

Viästisäkki 🤣🤣

[@Morhgoz]

Best part of Intti was when we ate officers' tiger cake at loppusota.

[@WackoMcGoose]

That's good that civilian service is an option... speaking as someone that _physically cannot serve even if I was willing to_ (as in, boot camp would literally kill me day one from overexertion)

[@lassithuren276]

With this military we can protect finland

[@nikolas3491]

Yeah but if you include women then the size of finnish military would be 2 million soldiers.

[@unknownentity8256]

@@nikolas3491 Se ois sitä tasa-arvoa, mutta tässä suhteessa varmaan ei haittaa sovinismi niin paljon entä muissa aiheissa.

[@emil3458]

@@nikolas3491 someone has to take care of the injured and keep society going

[@Fent1736]

Oh cool uusi video

[@danielsau7599]

In Moldova we also have sort of mandatory millitary service, we can evade it by getting into university tho

[@mikaseppanen1632]

@@Valokaari All Boys/Men have to do Military NO Excuse..You might be Formula F1 Star/ Hockey Star/Fotball star,, ALL have to Do IT.. Thats Finland.

[@mikaseppanen1632]

@@Valokaari Well there you Have IT.. Nobody is better then people... People makes defence.

[@icarian553]

I don't think we yell "laukaus" or "sarja" anymore. :D At least in my time 15 years ago we had plenty of blanks. Which I hated. Those things would foul any gun after a few rounds. I was a gunner in CV9030 and we had to use blanks in our mg as well. You wouldn't believe what kind of a mess 500 blanks would leave inside a PKT. In one practise all gunners made a secret pact that we wouldn't fire a single round. Our trainers weren't happy with that, but they didn't have to spent two hours cleaning tthe damn mgs after the day. Now I've decided that that kind of "sykkiminen" and "tetsaus" is a young man's game so I'm a proud C-man (relieved from duty during peace time for medical reasons).

[@vili9216]

Yes we do yell t. 2/22

[@icarian553]

@@vili9216 Okey. I stand corrected. I knew that our unit did get all the new toys and best gear back then. Kymi Jaeger Battallion. That's probably why we never had to do that.

[@kala1780]

@@icarian553 Eiköhä P-kaudella lähes kaikki huuda laukausta, kunnes uskalletaan jakaa baukku padruunoja morteille. Myös jenkkien ammattiarmeijoissa tehdään samaa tai ainakin on tehty vielä 2000 luvulla.

[@icarian553]

@@kala1780 Kyllä meillä P-kaudella käytettiin paukkupatruunoita. Niitä käytettiin jopa aseenkäsittely harjoituksissa meillä ennen kuin alettiin ampuu kovilla. Ensimmäisen kerran, kun oltiin ampuradalla, ammuttiin paukkupanoksia, jotta porukka tottuu ääneen ja rekyyliin. Kaikissa P-kauden taisteluharjoituksissa oli paukkupatruunat ja simut meillä. EDIT: Mutta KymJP oli ainakin silloin perusosastojen kärkeä. Ne sai kaikki lelut ja resurssit oli kunnossa silloin.

[@tommiweck8660]

At least my voice is gone after screaming "laukaus" at the top of my lungs for 500 fucking times today.

[@TheMrvidfreak]

4:38 "At least the enemy in the training camps isn't using live ammunition" xD Ex-Keltainen valtio on kyllä paska paikka, ilmankos ne kauheesti tunkee rajojensa ulkopuolelle.

[@oz_jones]

Olis loppusotakin vähän jännempi jos ammuttais kovilla :D

[@steifan]

Waiting is a nice skill 😁

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

Can´t wait to learn it. Wait, I already have.🙃

[@lassesaikkonen501]

I was such a bad soldier that I have never been called into reservist training in 35 years since my army days.

[@kuqie]

it has only been 19 years from my service and I think some of us are not suitable for anything else but to be stomping mines :D

[@CptMarkka]

I imagine if I had had a more interesting job in the army, I would have had a higher service motivation. Instead of doing something neat like maintaining guns, I got to lug around old phone wires around in the forest. The final appraisal for my performance... wasn't that stellar! And I haven't been asked to come back as of yet. T: kelaperse.

[@MKnife]

Same here (III-87, UudPr, KuljK). Since I mostly drove a lot of terrain vehicles and yelled at noobs (as an alikessu), they probably thougt that I still can drive a 4x4, 6x6 or whatever in the forrest without reservist training. And now I'm 53 so I'm not even in the active reserve any more. But I can still shoot guns and drive offroad vehicles quite well, should the need arise.

[@isipelaa2678]

Me too

[@lassesaikkonen501]

@@CptMarkka Were you in Riksu too? I was a kumiranne.

[@dainamo5184]

ฟินแลนด์! เดี๋ยวเจอ!

[@suomenwalio5463]

VMTL was favorite part in my service 65/165

[@mysteriousgadget7879]

I'm proud to be a gonakuski (truck driver) at Tikkakoski

[@WhiteGuardOfficer]

This is a very good recap of the Great Army

[@harripursiainen5420]

1:39 Why it is that when panzers comes in picture, Sabaton starts rolling? :)

[@vesi908]

I love that channel!!!

[@a.bastianwiik5592]

Former Norwegian Sisu Patria backseat warmer medic bulletsponge from the Nokian age here: VMTL?

[@randommixes7615]

Vapautus Marssi, Taistelu ja Liikuntapalvelusta Release from March, Combat and Physical exercise you rest and watch others train

[@tonikaihola5408]

Affectionately called “vemppa”

[@randommixes7615]

@@tonikaihola5408 aplies to all releases from just no exercise to getting a rare and mighty release from service (VP) and even either home or care unit rest/treatment

[@unknownentity8256]

2:38 I very appreciate the MW2 meme, better times..

[@TheHegetzu]

Quality documentary

[@Kat-gp6gj]

Finnish military winter camo is really cool!

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

I see you are using foreign military ranks. alikersantti is translated to corporal but their positions arent comparable, a better word for it is under sergeant.

[@M-I]

Tais aligeelle tulla vähän paha mieli kun muistutettiin kuinka matalalla arvossa ollaan xD

[@peabase]

A Finnish corporal is a lance-corporal in NATO-speak.

[@jussim.konttinen4981]

@@M-I Näinpä. Suosittelen katsomaan, How To Get Rid Of EGO and Promote Humility - Jocko Willink

[@jussim.konttinen4981]

OR-4: Korporal (Germany), Corporal (UK), Corporal (US), Master corporal (Canada), Korporal 1. klasse (Norway), Korporal (Denmark), Cabo primero (Spain), Caporale maggiore capo (Italy), Szakaszvezető (Hungary), skupnik (Croatia), Rotný (Czech Republic), Alikersantti (Finland) Corporal Simo Häyhä Corporal Viljam Pylkäs Pfc Mauno Koivisto "I can make sausage sticks. You should call me Under sergeant." Seriously speaking, it doesn't matter what some working class kids call themselves. I think alikersantti should be translated "the Punisher".

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

@@M-I olin 6kk lentosotamies :P ajattelin vaan korjata kun suomessa korpraali on vähän eri asia.

[@Vili307]

An inside joke about "taco stew" was used nicely here. Please do not ever eat that one.

[@NuubiKakku]

Always use your SARRRRRRRRJA and the KÄSIKRANAAATTIII wisely!

[@idraote]

I wonder... Is there a problem with bullying in the Finnish military? Because in my country we have a bullying tradition that makes military service hell.

[@yorkaturr]

Not really. It was worse in the 60's or something but nothing even close to Full Metal Jacket or something. I was in the army in the 90s and the worst punishment we could be issued was blowing up our bunks, which basically means that a corporal was not happy with the way my bed was made and threw the mattress and the bed sheets on the floor. No physical violence or anything like that. Nowadays it's illegal to blow up the bunks.

[@christianhindsberg8162]

Not really on a broad scale, however there are instances of missuse of power in a way of fucking a bit with people. when an 18 gets some military rank power over other 18 year olds. Allso the Finnishswede minority consisting of around 300 000 people have the right to go to a swedish speaking base in finland ("nylands brigad" which is fully operated by the Finnish military" . However if they choose to go to a finnish speaking base it is quite common to be picked on and "bullied" to some extent due to them being finnish swedes.

[@vili9216]

Not really, any bullying is very prohibited and sanctions will come from very small fouls (in my experience)

[@tommiweck8660]

@@yorkaturr Blowing up bunks may be illegal nowadays but "homesuojatarkistus" apparently isn't.

[@sampohonkala4195]

Severe cases very really rare already in the 1980's when I was there. I never witnessed a single case. What did happen frequently was that when you got the power, you would order the formation heading for lunch to run and hide in the snow to avoid an air raid, but that was valid training...almost. It was never against individual soldiers and usually we took it as a joke, something to break rather boring days with some extra action. Very good memories; I was from an inland town and had the chance to spend the time in the wonderful archipelago of the Gulf of Finland. There was also a very good spirit in the unit; quite a lot of competition but in the friendly sense.

[@lasselahti4056]

Actually it is 280 000 "at the field, in full action", and Finland has to top of that reserve of 900 000 ~ from which that 280 000 is packing up / filling that number back, if and when needed. Dunno if Finland has capability to bend that 280 000 to bigger numbers, if needed, with reserves, what comes to gear etc. 🙃280 000 is still kinda big for a country of 5 million. Nowdays many countries, as Finland, has made their army less personnel, but in better gear and more active training.

[@GugureSux]

Those 280k would be the "front line" troops with the latest gear and training. The next batches would have older and older training and gear, but could still kick some serious ass. Doubt the FDF even has gear older than the 1990's stuff any more, besides the RKs and such.

[@ralepej]

@@GugureSux This 280k is planned number for war time to whole army.

[@alehaim]

Basically the Finish army is planned to act as a force of 280 thousand soldiers at a time, while the rest of the 900 thousand total trained forces are basically the reserve to replace lost soldiers

[@JokuRandomPoju]

A backup reserve, as one could say.

[@brace-4-impact]

If you serve your gig well enough, they mark you down with epic skills and won't invite you back, even for the mandatory training.

[@godE25]

Yeah, i was turned off from service from reason of weight alone...

[@18KaratRunOfBadLuck]

Repesin tos lopus, varsinki ku vedin just viikon VMTL :DDD

[@perunapelaaja_1772]

when he said "gona" i said to myself "gonaa gona gona"

[@besticouldget]

Corporal electronic repairman entered the chat (phonerepairs lol)

[@ihminenlol2473]

Amazing

[@mladenmatosevic4591]

Apparently, not so different from playing soldiers in good old Yugoslavia, before some decided to put it in practice and reenacts WWII. I even got to play with MRLS, which is one of best riot dispersal devices ever made.

[@Sofa_Muncher]

Militarty 😳

[@ruis115]

Toivottavasti itse pääsen inttiin, kolmella vuodella lykkäsin koska amis loppuun ja sit myös iän kanssa vähä parempi henkisessä ja fyysisessä kunnossa.

[@mateopatek]

The thing im curious the most is, im about to get my finnish citizenship as a foreigner soon. Am I by law required to go into conscription? Or am I exempted from it due to having 2 citizenships? Me personaly I would love to go intno connscription, I've always wanted that even before moving to Finland. Any foreigners who went with this con. in the finnish army have any idea?

[@victorlazcano9174]

Hi! I'm soon moving to Finland and as I'm also a foreigner I wanna ask u something, you probably have a residence permit so, is it possible for you to go into conscription by only having a residence permit?

[@I_L2878]

If you are under 30 years old, you will probably be conscripted. Also, you won't be conscripted unless you have a citizenship.

[@Aidan_Au]

5:23 You don't have to make fun of Finnish guys NOT talking about anything else besides his military times. Alright, alright, I know that it's a joke... don't be too serious

[@franklinclinton4539]

You realistically have 2 options: 1. Complete your military service. 2. Choose not to which means that your assignment during war is to clear paths trough minefields with a radical device known as your feet.

[@MultiSpinks1]

I like Finns and respect the Finnish army, but I don't respect war criminals, no matter where they are from. I've heard a couple of times before what you described in option two and I can't believe that you Finns force people to do that if they don't serve in the army. I thought you were reasonable people, but I guess I was wrong. It sounds like you are no better than the Russians. In NATO, we don't need these sadistic methods. Forcing people to blow themselves in minefields whether they are armed or not is the sickest thing I have ever heard.

[@WhiteRed-ni7js]

@@MultiSpinks1First time?

[@samisuhonen9815]

As much as we conscripts like to meme around, in a real not I think our conscripts are really well trained and effective. Like we tend to compare ourselves to the hollywood propaganda of American military propaganda movies. But like compared to the real actual capability of say, the Russian army.. our conscripts are better trained than the average Russian professional soldier. This is because I can confirm, the money and time for training IS ACTUALLY SPENT ON TRAINING. In the year I spent in the military, we were doing actual training drills or theory lectures over half of the hours we spent awake. Not like practicing to march in perfect formation as machines, like the Russians do to impress their fascist supporters. We actually spent that time firing live ammunition, firing blanks, being instructed and watched over by the best trainers. We put up our tents and dig our trenches countless times to do it in the required time limits every time. We train for camouflaging our positions with inspecting officers grading us. We train for basic things like how to actually wear and take care of the proper clothing to not get frostbite in the winter. And our equipment is tightly taken care of, there is no room for soldiers to steal equipment like in the Russian army. Everything is counted for, and if you lose something you pay for it. And in addition, if you lose something you get so much shit for it. So I knew many people who lost their equipment and bought a premium variant from Varusteleka store to return instead, just so they wouldn't get the harsh punishments for like losing their fork spoon or ration container thingy. And to stay competitive, the Finnish army takes part in international exercises on Finnish training grounds. NATO and Nordic countries are invited to send their soldiers to have wargames with us. So our conscripts actually engage in simulated combat against American, German, Norwegian, Swedish, UK, and Baltic professional soldiers. It keeps the standards in check. And then you have to take into account, that our higher officers are vigorously trained and positions aren't sold off like in Russia and China. The officers are actual gods of war that have spent thousands and thousands of hours studying and practicing leading, strategy and tactics. The lower ranks have big respect for their higher up officers and generals. They aren't seen as corrupt fat thieves.

[@cfl_finn4831]

Soldier of the panzer brigade of Parola here! Finnish military is impressive but recently we loosened up the discipline which worries me! Despite that change? Our boys give 100% during combat training and generally do well

[@randomalien7746]

Hoki?

[@paistinlasta1805]

"Ei nää uudet velliperseet tiiä mitään armeijasta" - Kirjaimellisesti jokainen vanha saapumiserä

[@cfl_finn4831]

@@paistinlasta1805 eiei Kun meillä saatana sipojen aikaan piti kattoa kolmeen tonniin ja joku oli valittanut siitä henkilökunnalle ja saanut luvan olla katsomatta Ja sit siel oli paskottu vessojen rinkuloille ja tahtimarssi ei lähde ja kaikki päin vittua Se kuri on olematon

[@paistinlasta1805]

@@cfl_finn4831 Hoki? :D

[@cfl_finn4831]

@@paistinlasta1805 hoki 😞

[@drakeyes9427]

Ayo, you put me in the video - awesome, dude! But for real, I have huge respect for the Finnish Defence Forces. I personally walked the civilian service path (which was alright), but later I've come to regret not serving in the army. I suppose if the eastern neighbour ever actually decides to do something silly, I'll send a letter to FDF headquarters and ask to serve.

[@Pyhantaakka]

Helping with civil defense etc. is the more likely option.

[@joona7556]

It is risk for others to have untrained solders in the team. Friendly fire is a thing, and everyone is required to understand some team tactics and commands, so chances for that are minimized. But I believe that in case of war, there will be some amount of military training before you'll go to face enemies.

[@R40244]

Mw2 rankup sound gave nostalgia

[@rivalzmusic]

As i lay in the veksi unit bed i can confirm all this is true

[@SlyJohn]

That COD level sound effect hahahahah

[@d1kkmuncher]

Hyvä video👍🏻

[@polarmane]

Can you make a video about the finnish tribal war? (Or what is it called in english)

[@Vuohipukki]

I miss the army.

[@OctavioMovies]

Make a video on Mämmi

[@keijo4359]

you forgot the part of where you can just say you are crazy.. then you dont have to go

[@Iretnas1]

I got In the panzer brigade In Parola, but i didnt get to serve In a tank bc only 60 ppl got selected. But i have To serve only 165 days

[@Dannu]

Hyvin rimmaa toi VMTL tohon outroon :D

[@kingofohio5689]

Jees veri truu 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮

[@Skege1000]

Vaikka sanotaan, että "tyhmä saa olla, muttei tykkimies". Ni ite oon ennemmin tykkimies, ku MeVa. Kohina-Keijot

[@M-I]

Hei, mä olin molemmat. Norpat nussii jne.

[@Hnke90]

3:11 was that Kimi???

[@mandelin0]

yep

[@WhiteWolfiee]

I burst out laughing at the VMTL part, vitun vempat xD

[@mlm_academyofficial2041]

3.16 kyllä se näi o, Korppi on mälliraidalla pilattua korppia ylempiarvoisempi.

[@pipopoikapelaa5468]

VMTL? Jos pitäisi arvata niin tarkoittaa "vittuun mä täältä lähen"

[@masterdragon2345]

vapautus marssi-, taistelu- ja liikuntakoulutuksesta

[@TimeShrike]

Sweet sweet vemppalife!

[@pipopoikapelaa5468]

@@masterdragon2345 Juuh, kuulosti biisi tuossa lopussa biisin sävy vähän intin vastaiselta. Itse kun en ole intiin vielä pariin vuoteen menossa niin en tiennyt

[@oz_jones]

@@Valokaari Tyhmä saa olla muttei tykkimies

[@KitaRisti]

VMTL

[@Ilmatorjuntapanssarivaunu_90]

As a Finn with ADHD, you didn't add that ADHD and similar diagnoses grant free leave from service.

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

unrelated to this video but you know what i hate nowdays on youtube, when i search finland i only get dumb war and russia videos. its not that i dont care, but i know everything about it already because its literally everywhere, its just so annoying how sometimes i wanna watch different content and youtube wont let me. im a huge military guy but enough is enough.

[@Jaggaraz218]

You kind of forgot to mention the most important fact about the millitary service, it is only mandatory for men while women can volunteer.

[@thehokkanen]

Bro didn't say anything about the sotilaskoti :(((((

[@Eddieouh]

Oonko ainut joka vaa nohevoitu loppua kohti intissä?