The almost amazing Sig P365

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When we started this video I expected by the end i would have a glowing opinion of the Sig P365 with the exception of one issue I was going to keep an eye on. My Sig P365 is a "second generation" gun as the initial guns had several problems that Sig quickly addressed after the P365's release. I thought I had a winner on my hands and I was carrying the gun for the last two weeks... then came time to shoot a video with the Sig P365. You'll want to watch the whole video.
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Maxlifextactical: • Sig Sauer P365 Review ...

[@pyro2518]

Mine had the same failure after 165 rounds. The Sig customer service rep said when I send it in it'll get new sear/trigger springs, a new striker, and possibly a new slide.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Well that's not very reassuring. If they're having to replace slides that means there's potentially a lot of defective pistols out there and we may have been through another generational change that Sig hasn't mentioned publicly.

[@pyro2518]

I think he was referring to the "1st gen" issues they were having in regards to the slide. Mine is a 2nd gen so hopefully it won't be necessary. Either way, it's on its way back to Sig now and I'll give an update when I get it back.

[@EastCoastMan603]

Ian Alpert can you see the issue with commenting on this and trying to “soften the blow” when you yourself have a Sig P365 “on it’s way back to sig”...they beta test on police, our military and now civilians and have no qualms about it, even lying about it flat out. The design is great but the execution is worse then subpar. Embarrassing.

[@pyro2518]

I wouldn't say I'm trying to soften the blow, but I'm also not about a grab a torch and pitchfork due to my first bad experience with a Sig product. Obviously I'm unhappy with a broken gun which is why I sent it back and am holding them accountable.

[@OctaneSlain]

Well, just think about it. What generation is it on now? The 3rd generation? And it's half a year old? That's not good. Sig Sauer has quickly become Sig Sewer over the years. Their QC needs major improvement.

[@ridgerunners]

After watching this four years ago, I decided to go ahead and get the P365 anyway. Four years on and it’s performed flawlessly.

[@mnrodriguez]

Same here! I bought mine in May, 2018...no problem.

[@rono33]

​ @Manny Rod Yours performs flawlessly until it doesn't. I have P365 also. Now I wonder...You just don't know WHICH round count it may fail at. Curious: How many rounds have you put through yours? I'm really concerned now. (have you looked to see if your spent shells show striker drag?) maybe they've fixed that?

[@rono33]

​@@mnrodriguez Yours performs flawlessly until it doesn't. I have P365 also. Now I wonder...You just don't know WHICH round count it may fail at. Curious: How many rounds have you put through yours? I'm really concerned now. (have you looked to see if your spent shells show striker drag?)

[@robertpiorek7581]

Same Here 👍👍

[@howardkahn4330]

THATS BECAUSE THEY FIXED THE PROBLEM.......YIKS!

[@warriorcaste4304]

I didn't intend to sit on the toilet this long and now my legs are asleep. Damn you MAC!!!! Damn youuuu!!!!!

[@bldlightpainting]

“Profanity is the common crutch of the conversational cripple.” David Keuck

[@warriorcaste4304]

"I use other people's words about conversational skills instead of my own" BLD Lightpainting

[@q-bert6454]

Whiskey Tango ..plop plop, flush flush, wipe wipe, you’re done

[@corsair371]

😀😂🤪😄🤣

[@1717jbs]

LOL!

[@nexusofice9135]

Person from 3 years in the future here. Sig fixed the firing pin issue. No more breaks and no more dragging.

[@PolishX]

Mine broke after 5 rounds of 115 FMJ it was made in March of 2020. I kid you not, problem was not fixed

[@nexusofice9135]

@@PolishX I am never going to say that a quality of a firearm is going to be 100% across a mass produced product. But it is gone in most of the outgoing products. I am sorry to hear you got one of the bad ones.

[@ryandiogo2051]

I love that you dont use dysfunctional politeness that is becoming more and more prominent especially in the younger generations where people are afraid to tell the truth because it makes someone else look bad. You noticed a problem, investigated further to confirm the problem and posted it. Not catering to sig's salespeople. There is a problem...make it known and let the manufacturer respond how they will. Their responses tell a lot about them as well. Awesome review. Love your channel. Keep it going!

[@Cam-se9sw]

I got a nitron model with a safety brand new from academy a couple weeks ago. No primer smear and it's performed flawlessly so far. I guess they fixed it

[@WaffleCouncil]

they did

[@edwinsane3769]

What’s the difference between Nitron and regular P365? Pls enlighten me coz I have a regular one.😐😐

[@kevinroberts9580]

And this is why I don't buy new guns when they first come out because there is always bugs to be worked out. Just like when they come out with a completely new automobile that everybody Raves about, I don't do anything until it's proven itself. But I do expect more from Sig

[@thefreeman8791]

I agree. I carry and XD and have not had a problem with it. I bought my XD-S after they fixed the accidental discharge issues that they had with it. Most of the guns out there are excellent but most new models have teething issues.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Yeah I feel badly for Sig because this appears to be a really cool design, but they know that we've entered a new era in terms of product testing and feedback via KZbin and gun forums. If their product isn't able to meet the hype, they should be shamed accordingly for bringing a new gun to market without doing due diligence. In any case, I assume they will get the issues cleared up, and either way, the impetus to other manufacturers to innovate in this segment is right here, and we as consumers all benefit. Innovation requires mistakes.

[@PureDrive8888]

yup..when the P238 came out I had tons of problems. 2 trips to the service department , they finally fixed it. Same goes for my G42. 3 trips to Glock and it's finally 100% reliable.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

+Puredrive888 I've heard the G43 was much smoother on release than the 42. People should remember that other brands have had hangups on new models, but the P365 seem to have had several. Still, this may be the most closely scrutinized new gun ever, given YT engagement.

[@AICW]

That's why I'm still holding off on the Ruger PC Carbine.

[@technolung]

"My hands are just sooo fricking huge" - Every guy ever

[@silvirhunter3607]

my hands are normal sized for a 5 foot 6 dude.

[@Datacorrupter234]

My hands are massive for a 5’10 man

[@harveygussow7913]

I thought that this demonstration of a SI Sig 365 would be a positive result, that didn’t happen. It’s good of you to do your job in reporting the issues. Thanks for being a honest person.

[@LooseCannon905]

Great video, thanks for the thorough honest review! I was set on buying a P365 now I'll wait to see if/how Sig addresses these issues. I'm an engineer and it really looks like Sig blew it on their reliability testing. These issues should have been caught. It's a shame because the overall design is revolutionary and included most of the features that experienced shooters would want.

[@stevenharleysh]

I never buy first production new model releases from ANY gun manufacturer. Thank you for the review bro!

[@Mrgunsngear]

This is why when people see me post photos of a new gun on social media it takes a month or two before the review; stuff needs to be vetted because any company can make a dud

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Even then you can get a good one and I can get a bad one. Or, yours may fail at 2k rounds and mine at 1k. I turn to the ‘net and see how many reports I find. When I find a ton of reports, like I did with the P365, I conclude the gun has a very high likelihood of being a dud and I simply can’t trust it.

[@chad_8313]

Back to back disasters. Sig first lies about their P320 being drop safe, they lied straight up to a police department. They only issued a "voluntary" upgrade because of video proof of the pistol failing over and over in drop tests. Then this POS pistol comes out next, where you're playing Russian Roulette with the striker and trigger. Will it break today, maybe not. But it will, and likely under a thousand rounds.

[@Ultrajamz]

Mrgunsngear Channel this really sucks :( I’ve been looking for a under 6” length 9mm that has a nice trigger and this would have been it..

[@d3rylle]

Mrgunsngear Channel mike when will you review sig 365?

[@asymsolutions]

@@d3rylle should he even bother? Sig is shit. Had plenty of friends work for them in various departments. They are overpriced trash, ruined by the same CEO that ruined kimber. Only sig I own is because it was with a 50% employee discount from a friend.

[@MilsurpMikeChannel]

After all the problems, I am glad that I stuck with my gut to give this gun a year before buying it. Sig needs to be real careful now after this and the 320 debacle. I know not everyone thinks like me, but I still won't but a polymer S&W pistol after the worthless .380 Bodyguard (I had one that would only go bang 50% of the time). This makes me seriously question all Sig poly guns.

[@chrisclark6161]

So many new model guns come out with problems these days, it's amazing that are still people who don't think like you. The P10C, 320, 365, 19X, 380 EZ, and probably more all have pretty consistent reports of QC errors that shouldn't exist. Though I will say you should probably consider looking into the standard M&P. It's been around for 13 years and S&W has made a great gun out it. Don't let your experience with the body guard ruin an entire line up for you.

[@MilsurpMikeChannel]

Truth be known... I am more of a metal and hammer guy than anything. Only striker fire I ever carry is the Glock 43 in that rare instance I have to tuck a shirt in.

[@chrisclark6161]

Milsurp Mike Channel Nothing wrong with a good steel or aluminum gun.

[@GrayGhostDog1]

Chris Clark ... except maybe heavier in carry weight.

[@anthonygonzales6029]

Body guards blow. Get a shield. That will be a better example of s&w polymer strike fire pistols

[@ArmatisReviews]

This is a fantastically informative video, Tim. Thank you for the honest reviews. My friend just bought a P365 and before he did I kept telling him to wait to see if they work the kinks out but he just wouldn't listen. It's still on backorder so I guess we'll see if he gets a good one or not. I loved the video and I really wish/hope that Sig would get their crap together because I'd love a P365, but I will be waiting a long time to see if they fix their crap first. I'm proud to be a MAC Patreon.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Thank you. Because of you and your fellow Patreons we can do what we do and be as honest in our experiences. We don’t rely on freebies and paychecks from manufacturers. So, thank you and all of our Patreons for the support.

[@christopherbarger6112]

Armatis Reviews good Sigs exist? I’ve never seen one

[@ArmatisReviews]

Back in the day they were... Back in the day...

[@dbmail545]

ChrisPewKreme Then I guess it sucks to be you. I have a P220R and a P239 DAK that I would trust my life to. The ones made before 2005 live up to their "hell and back" slogan.

[@christopherbarger6112]

dbmail545 good for you? Sig USA is still trash. I didn’t mean all Sigs. I should’ve clarified. Sig USA should not be allowed to be affiliated with Sig Sauer. They’re quality is a joke

[@DRayL_]

Thank you, MAC, for posting this video. I had the Sig P365 on the short list for gun purchases but will now remove it based upon this video and the comments given here and elsewhere about it. At this point, I'll keep carrying my old [1970's era] F.I. Industries Model D 380acp before I'd buy and carry this gun. At least the old F.I. is actually long term reliable. Back to the drawing board on a replacement carry gun.

[@eking6549]

I purchased one today. It was born on Feb 2019. BOY WAS I WRONG. Today it has the following issues within 200 rounds of Winchester white box 115 grain round nose ammo. 1) NO strike and not light strike. This happened within the first 100 rounds. Heard and felt striker but the casing did not have a scratch on the primer. Reloaded it and it fired the second time 2) All casings showed extreme striker drag to the edge of the primer 3) Worst of all the barrel showed pinging damage to the point that you can cut your finger on it. It is a new style barrel that has the relief cut on it. I called Sig and it is on its way back! WHAT A PIECE OF JUNK. The capacity is there, the ergonomics are good, the accuracy is exceptional and the sights are great BUT if it goes click instead of bang it is not fit for EDC.

[@festes81]

I bought a P365 (second gen) and so far it's been great. I was almost prepared to defend it as I have to my friends and anyone else I've talked to. At first, I said "the failure to return to battery is because people are riding the slide with their thumbs". Then I was thinking "the firing pins may have had a small bad batch". Seeing it digging into the primer sideways as it ejects and then the trigger breakage is going to force me to return this to the safe as a decoration. I'll take it out to the range and beat the holy hell out of it, paying close attention to spent casings. If it's doing that on my next range trip, then I'll wait for SIG to issue a recall. The trigger issue will be one to watch for if a single other person reports it. For now, I'll go back to my Ruger LCP II. I was really hopeful the SIG could go with me pretty often to cover the role of the Ruger. Who wouldn't want more capacity and 9mm over a 6+1 380? They've made huge improvements in the LCP over my original LCP Custom and I can shoot it just as well as the P365. Sig, fix this. I ordered, got on a list, and waited almost two months for nothing.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I firmly believe the gun needs serious revamping. It my opinion that it's not a matter of "if" your P365 will fail, it's only a matter of "when". I've gotten messages from people who had their break on the first magazine and people who had 500 some rounds through theirs before it failed. This gun is not to be trusted with self defense duty in my honest opinion.

[@johnTsantes]

I didn't know they had a second generation out already. Where are the improvements???

[@Kenny31190]

The fact they have a second generation already is proof enough they had a boat load of problems with the original. Don't overthink it.

[@festes81]

They fixed the peening on the barrel, increased the spring weight for people that put too much hand-meat on the slide, and it looks like they even rounded off some corners around the mags. Oh, and the xray 3 night sights. So if you see one without night sights, that's a gen 1.

[@festes81]

@MAC - Agreed. Great concept, but needs serious fixes. New furniture for the gun safe for now.

[@HarrysHolsters]

Great Honest Review! This gun has so much to offer if Sig can get QC under control. I will say my gun never had any striker drag before the striker broke after 1000 rounds. That scares me more than anything because there seems to be no consistent precursors for when a gun will go down.

[@jont3227]

Harry's Holsters The failures seem more related to poor design than QC, since as far as I know all P365s have the same striker drag problems, just not all of them are breaking from it. They need to need go back to the drawing board and fix their trigger mechanism and striker designs.

[@Stewdiggy]

Harry's Holsters in before Bikeracedude claims the gun is just fine, it’s just Tim’s fat trigger finger that caused the malfunction.

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

Harry's Holsters & Jon T The whole primer smear, striker drag is an issue 98% of 40 S&W guns have been dealing with since the 90's. And still, continue to deal with! Its a result of the recoil spring is too weak to keep the case and slide in battery long enough for the pressures to drop and the primer to stop flowing before the extraction and ejection phase begins. And it is happening before the firing pin can retract. Most of my 40's be it hammer-fired or striker-fired as I buy them new do this exact same thing. And in every instance, the solution is to bump up into a heavier recoil spring if one is available. I think the problem here is the barrel and slide are so short that at the length of travel the spring is not sufficiently strong enough to do its job in the distance it has. The basic rule of thumb is compact always have heavier, strong springs than their FS counter-parts. And sub-compact more than the compacts. I think that combined with piss poor heat treatments or shoddy choice in material on the striker is the root cause of those two issues.

[@willws2conceptsshephard]

I sold mind the day it got back from Sig, which was shipped the second day after purchase, I have 0 interest in this firearm going forward. I don't care what they fix

[@benw9431]

Daniel Stewart holy shit I thought I was the only one that noticed that guy lol he’s a sig apologist.

[@1776REIGNS]

As consumers we need to stick together and keep the information coming. With all the attention the P365 is getting I think it'd be in Sig's best interest to own up to an obvious issue and fix it. I for one would appreciate an honest/ forthcoming approach and give them the benefit of the doubt as one thing is absolutely certain. Sig Sauer has innovated something truly special and I applaud them for it. Yes, there is a KelTec that's the same size and capacity but comparatively speaking the P365's trigger and accuracy is unmatched. Everything has growing pains, the P320 did, I own a P320 X-Carry (post voluntary upgrade) and all I can say is it's phenomenal. I think this is such a hot topic because there are so many who want it to be a success that when it becomes "flawless" (if there is such a thing) everyone will be toting one unless another manufacturer does it without flaws or growing pains which is unlikely as new offerings rarely come out of the gate like that but it's possible. Acknowledging and fixing would certainly show consumers that Sig cares about their customers in more ways than one as many are EDC'ing the P365 which may have a catastrophic failure at an unfortunate moment. One has to wonder how much it would cost Sig Sauer should this scenario happen and they be held liable for it. Look at the automaker's. Sig responding to proven issues would be an unusual, yet wise move to gain trust by saying we're listening. I remember Remington denying an issue with their 700 BDL firing when simply disengaging the safety. One of their own engineers actually tried to call attention to the issue and at the time he did the modification would've been a few bucks. There's certainly more to Remington's woes than just what I mentioned but it didn't help matters. Take a lesson Sig. Our family owns 4/P365's, 3 have close to 1000rds., 1 has ~700rds. All have been flawless but all are no longer being EDC'd until issues are owned/addressed properly. We will continue to shoot at the range but not trust our lives or our families with what if's. Be safe and aware.

[@joepall323]

Thank you for this video. You saved me from making a terrible mistake. I have the p365 in my shopping cart and I saw your caption and decided to watch the video. After the video, I took the gun out of the cart and am now looking for another EDC.. Thank again

[@USARMYvietnamVET1969]

My Sig P-239 9mm has around 2500 rounds through it with never a failure, glad I have one since production has been recently discontinued. I appreciate you putting the P-365 to the test, glad I watched the video.

[@Fergesslich]

Holy shit, SIG is on the best way to permanently damage its reputation.

[@huckleberry602]

Fergesslich I think the damage is done.

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

They are currently ran by the cost cutting corner cutter Ron Cohn, otherwise known as that guy who drove Kimber's quality into the ground before he was rightfully sacked.

[@Fergesslich]

Is that the same kind of guy like Lopez who ruined the image of automative companies?

[@JosephCraciun]

His name is Ron Cohen, and he is exactly as stated.

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

I dropped the 'e' like 'ol Ron dropped Sig's quality control.

[@moseslazaro2645]

I am a huge fan of Sig but I completely agree with you. I hope they fix these problems because I was planning on purchasing this handgun.

[@r1derbike]

Thanks for the review! Major purchase mistake averted...

[@deeheych1101]

lol

[@willw4661]

You and me brother

[@Real_Tech_Skills]

Thanks for this review. I had a P365 on backorder through Brownells. I cancelled that back order in the hopes that SIG fixes the breaking striker / dead trigger issues. I seriously wanted the P365 to replace my G43 as my everyday carry gun. Maybe next year.

[@Onefortheroad56]

My Uncle has this firearm. He loves the sites on it. He was in the Marines SRT. He said he was trained to fire the second the get that first site lined up and that’s why he likes the bright green

[@RexKramerDangerSeeker]

17:28 "How you shootin' today, Tim?" "Been dead on all morning" "What about that little fella?" "that little guy? I wouldn't worry about that little guy."

[@feuerein]

"You're one sick motherf-----, Mac"

[@Xoarkitty]

Tie a tennis ball to the reset cord on the plate rack. Now you won't have to wind it around your wrist to find the spot where it's convenient to pull from.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Thanks for the tip!

[@hiwayman64]

well this is why I never jump on the new stuff when they first come out .

[@richardtravalini6731]

Richard Travalini 0 seconds ago I have a Sig P365 SAS. I have had it for about a year but have only shot about 300 rounds through it and it worked perfectly will brass, steel, ball and hollow point ammo. All of a sudden one morning, I woke up and went to use it, and before I fired a shot, the STRIKER FAILED TO LOCK BACK and so the TRIGGER WAS DEAD. I field stripped it and couldn't see anything that looked broken, but something was obviously wrong. Thank you Tim, now I know.

[@horsefeathers7433]

I’m glad I saw your vid!! The Sig 365 I purchased last week had a trigger failure. The trigger spring came loose in the the trigger assembly. It looks like a clothes pin spring. One end seats in a slot on the trigger housing frame and the other end inserts in a ear tab on the trigger bar. The Sig company said “Huh...I haven’t herd of that” “ If it happens again call us” I used some lock tight. Lol I’ll see what happens. It’s firing ok now. ...As far as the firing pin drag....I haven’t seen that but...the firing pin tip is angled. I’ll look with a magnifying glass to see if it’s broken or made that way. If it’s made that way at a angle then when the pin strikes the indentation would appear as a drag mark since the indentation is at a angle also. Just an assumption. Sig, can I trust my life with you? Rob

[@hotelkilo006]

Who needs to waste time product testing before release? You can get the customer to figure out whats wrong with the gun for you!

[@Militaryarmschannel]

That seems to be the case.

[@j.paul.joseph]

No level of testing can be as adequate as testing all mass produced parts.

[@Ericdz302]

That’s exactly what I was thinking also

[@Shadow0fd3ath24]

Why not just send 50 of them to the biggest of the honest youtubers and give them 2 months and 2000rds to test before they realease videos under a NDA

[@freedomfirst5420]

Sig does seem to do that alot.

[@TheCodyleehargo]

Sig is to firearms manufacturers what these new game developers are to gaming. They release an unfinished product and expect the end user to figure out the problems so the company can patch it instead of going through further development to work out the kinks. It's a dangerous game that Sig is playing with people's lives. It's sad because I absolutely love their guns, my current go to rifle is my MCX and it's been super reliable for 3000 rounds now at the least. I love every handgun of theirs that I pick up. But they have to stop the nonsense with QC and testing.

[@Tarsarian]

I love the old school Sig! These problems were not the issue 20 years ago.

[@Menaceblue3]

Cody Hargo Does that mean we have to pay extra money for DLC, loot boxes, and more from Sig Sauer?

[@chillywilly9589]

Good analogy man. Day 1 patch lol.

[@jackkelley4539]

Yeah and people are too damn impatient. You don't need to design a new model every year. Guns now 40+years old are still on par with the stuff being released now. Glocks gen 5? Gimme a break! The 320? bleh. They really don't bring anything to the table that would make it any more effective than an old 226 or g17.

[@kamenriderblade2099]

"SSSHHHH", don't give them DUMB IDEAS!

[@thegoodguy729]

2019 model has had zero issues for me after 1,500 rounds. The “gen 1” definitely had issues, but they seem to be resolved now.

@Oz Oz - Bullshit ... and who is "Are"?

[@haVocHWC3]

@Oz Oz Many "first gen" guns seem to have issues when they are first launched.

[@stevemitchell7981]

@Oz Oz There was a recall on the Walther pps m2

[@cdrom16]

I was looking sooooo hard for a Comment like this, Thank God because this Gun is Glorious!

[@nicholaslopez4170]

@Oz Oz dumbass

[@skyking4581]

I am an FFL with a 20 gun backorder for the Sig 365. Now I'm going to defer the order until the issues are addressed. Thanks for the informative video. Sky King

[@themackguyverchannel7713]

I was waiting for you to comment on the striker drag. It’s 2023 and I have been carrying the 365 since it was released 4 years ago. Yes I swapped out to steel striker and no the original one didn’t break. I’ve had no issues. I recently got a Glock 43x. The empty casings show a very slight drag on the primers. Unlike the older Glocks this one has a round striker. IT ALSO HAS THE BOTTOM RELIEVED AT ABOUT a 25 or 30 degree angle. That relief apparently keeps it from dragging.

[@usmw1]

I have the gen 2, best CC ever. Zero problems after 2000+ rounds.

[@darinfry1543]

What do you mean by gen 2? Is it actually labeled as such or is there just a date made after by to look for?

[@krishankansal86]

@@darinfry1543 just look for ones made after 2 Feb, 2019

[@rwmclean34]

Nearly 3,000 rounds through my P365. Very little primer drag, and NO issues whatsoever. I even used quite a bit of cheap ammo, as well as the opposite, some Winchester Ranger +P in both FMJ and HP. My "born on" date was March 17th of 2019 tho...

[@ventroid4473]

rwmclean34 I’m guessing they updated the design by the time you got it?

[@rwmclean34]

@@ventroid4473 - Yes. Born on date of March 17th of this year. Up to up to 3500 rounds with NO failures EXCEPT when both my friend and his son rode the slide forward and it didn't go into battery... They each did it once. lol

[@mobilegamersunite]

Maybe 3 years ago meh...but the modern day one rocks! I absolutely love mine 😍

[@BalladSelections]

Love your very honest and factual report. My first time to come across your channel as I was gathering more info on the new Sig P365. I am glad I came across your channel before buying one. I was about to replace my Glock collection, but after watching your video I think I’ll keep my Glocks for my safety and my family.

[@armyrat206]

I bought the xl first about a year ago, then bought the p365. The xl came with the safety and 365 no safety. The first upgrade to the 365 I got the xl grip module for the 365 also added a safety and a flat trigger. This made it able to use same mags for both guns. Both have been completely reliable and so easy to conceal. I have to say out of all the pocket pistols I have these two are my go to’s first.

[@iancornell141]

Can't beat the old West German Sig's, kinda disappointed in the p365. Hopefully Sig gets this worked out

[@Vulf_Faolan]

Ain't that the truth. SIG USA is really letting the side down.

[@HuyTran-sk3py]

My bedside gun is my 1981 West German P6. I called it old faithful and has had thousands of rounds through it.

[@gilcordova00]

I Iike my 226 & 229

[@npc2377]

I ALSO HAD MY TRIGGER RETURN SPRING POP OUT AFTER 300RDS FIRED. This was about 7 weeks ago and at the time I was the only one I had heard of this happening to so I didnt worry about it too much. I put it back in, and have since fired 400 more rounds without issue. OF NOTE - When this happened I did find out that you can reset the trigger if you hold the gun completely upside down and rack the slide.. So if you go full GANSTA in a gun fight YOU SHOULD BE FINE>!!

[@joethomas1427]

When Sig gets this pistol running right without broken firing pins and extractors, then I will look seriously at buying one, until then I will stick with my Glock G43 thank you very much. Reliability is the first thing I look for in an EDC pistol that I will depend on to save my life!

[@WARHAWKLEADER1]

9,000 rounds through my p365 with zero failures.

[@johnraba3197]

My 365 has functioned flawlessly. Even Glock has had quality control issues. People need to calm down.

[@joethomas1427]

@@johnraba3197 Sig has fixed the issues that plagued the earlier pistols and I would carry one now without hesitation.

[@jasonb4738]

If that was the case you wouldn’t carry a glock. How long and gens did it take for them to get it right? Wait they still workin on it. That’s the exact reason so many have gotten away from glocks.

[@johnshaver4580]

Mac, Love the shirt brother. Great review. Been watching since the table top and green screen days. One shot one kill.

[@sasquatch7foot145]

Wow Mac, I so wanted to pick up one of these little Wonder nines for my fiance because she is hollering and screaming for a little nine, I am so thankful that I watched your video to see what sig is up to. I have been hearing for years how sick is off the Mark for many things like their sights falling off the gun as well. Thank you so much for doing this uncovering of a defective defensive handgun.... Sasquatch of the North

[@HailWoden18]

It has been remedied. This is the epitome of Carry Guns. Don't be an ignorant dipsht and take a 4year old Video as your final decision maker. Clown. Do more research buddy.

[@BurninatorTheTrogdor]

@@HailWoden18 Jesus man that was harsh! I bet you're the life of the party. haha

[@ResistTheNonsense]

I never heard of primer drag until reviews of this P365 started.

[@johnraba3197]

Primer drag is common in pistols of this size.. It is a non issue.

[@ResistTheNonsense]

@@johnraba3197 I don't know as I have not had any compacts. MAC seems to think it is not that common.

[@MiamiMidwest]

Same

[@lilmarcus0]

But i saw glock do this every time

[@puma51921]

Most important thing in a gun is dependability

[@winstonmcse]

puma51921 Reliability for me.

[@DonHavjuan]

MAC drinking game: one shot every time you hear "my big hands"

[@micksanger6274]

at 16:10 into video... i'm drunk. LOL

[@hblegal8309]

Does he have big hands or just happy to see Sig! :)

[@robertwhitcomb6105]

I’m like 6 rounds in on an empty chamber..,,

[@bruceruttan60]

I like this blog because Mac has fine shooting technique. His grip is excellent and he don't blink!

[@mastodon24]

You have provided a thorough and well thought out review. Your thoughts have greatly aided me in the decision for my next purchase. Thank you very much!

[@masonpk]

Tim, you may have just saved someone's life. Keep up the great reviews and thanks for bringing this to our attention.

[@GarbageDanks]

512 rounds no malfunction, cleaned. I'm at 880 right now. If it fails I'll let you know. With the born on date.

[@shenglong9818]

How is it now?

[@nancyoffenhiser4916]

Great video Tim. At our gun store we have already gotten one in on trade. We put it in the rental case, where it wont do much damage, except frustration when it finally goes.

[@mikemc1114]

I have had my P365 for 3 months now. Over 1000 rounds. Not one hiccup. I also have a Sig P238 with over 1000 rounds. Not one hiccup. Best guns I have ever owned and that includes my Glocks. 10 +1 or 12+1 rounds in a gun smaller than a Glock 43. Great CCW.

[@Rebellion1776]

SIG Sauer better be careful, they look to be headed down the same road as Remington...

[@Rebellion1776]

No nono, your trying to split hairs, it IS the same company, just a Division of it is ran in the USA. I am pretty sure when you open the box to any weapon SIG USA has produced it will somewhere in that box or on the gun itself say SIG Sauer

[@obergruppenfuhrerjohnsmith5981]

Rebellion1776 this isn't necessarily true. Sig Sauer and Sig USA or actually two completely separate commercial entities. German Sig retains rights over intellectual property and designs of cig USA, But there two distinct companies with separate research and development teams, manufacturing, quality control processes, and corporate culture. The truth is that Sig USA simply does not maintain the same level of quality and attention to detail that there are German and West German predecessors did. It's kind of a shame, because even there dependable legacy designs like the P226 and P229 have shown problems coming out of their New Hampshire plant. Hell, even the legions occasionally have unacceptable flaws. It's really too bad, because a little over a decade ago a metal frame Sig was one of the best guns money could buy. Now the price has stayed up where it's always been, but the quality no longer matches.

[@Rebellion1776]

Like I said, same company two different Divisions. When SIG stock price gets effected it is a across the board failure for both divisions no matter if one caused it or not. Most people are not going to differentiate between the two divisions either, they will look at SiG products as lower quality no matter if they were produced in the USA or Germany. Not saying the Germán Division doesn’t produce high quality stuff, but the average Joe who buys SIG in the USA will not care, they will just start hearing SIG has quality problems and they will buy a competitor weapon instead.

[@GrayGhostDog1]

Rebellion1776... my question is if all that is the case, where are the German-made Sig's? Are Sig's even manufactured in Germany anymore? Any proof that Sig Sauer AG still exists?

[@obergruppenfuhrerjohnsmith5981]

*Jay T.* yes, there is still German made Sigs. The custom shop guns, and the competition versions (X5, X6, etc) are still made and hand fitted in Germany. In addition, Sig AG probably makes a lot of the guns for their European contracts, and does maintenance on the outstanding ones (of which they have quite a few). That said, I'm pretty sure that at this point Sig USA is a larger company by revenue, and certainly will be after the MH 17 / 18 acquisition program gets into full swing. Unfortunately, unless you're willing to pay a few thousand dollars for an X Series, it's near impossible to find a new production German made Sig in the US

[@lawrenceornelas3026]

Nice video! Glad I watched it. I was really considering buying this just because of the size and capacity it has.

[@Ratbeeitch]

I hear you, I was getting ready to pull the trigger on one. BTW, pun intended

[@Steven-gv1ke]

Whats funny is KelTec makes the P11 which is smaller in size than the P365, holds 2 more rounds than the P365, weighs less than the P365, and is about $300 cheaper than the P365. No I don't own one either, I am a Glock guy, just think its funny everyone acts like Sig was the first to accomplish a gun this small with this capacity when the P11 has been around for YEARS.

[@lawrenceornelas3026]

Yeah but it's a Kel tec. Would you trust your life with one? I have a sub 2000 and love it. But I trust my G19 more. I just wanted an excuse to buy my first Sig.

[@KimTownsel]

This certainly shakes my confidence in my 365. Mine has an April 2019 born on date; I wonder if the laters are better than the earlies.

[@codywhittenton6144]

Kim Townsel mine was made in March, I get primer drag on every casing I’m not sure how long the firing pin is going to hold up

[@evangelical7035]

After hearing and seeing and reading about the thousands of ppl having major issues..I definitely don't trust u

[@Rcasca1]

Thanks' Tim For being so honest. I am a Sig guy but regardless of manufacture. I don't want a firearm that is going to put my family in danger.

[@briancobb3697]

I had the same kind of trigger failure with a Shield, after about 500 rounds, a few years ago. Of course, S&W made it right, but that ruined me for relying on the M&P brand. G-43 or 42 or XDs, I carry without thinking about it. When Sig gets the bugs worked out, I'll be on it. I'll keep watching.

[@bavarianshooter]

Well... i was a big fan of sig pistols. But after some experienced failures with a x-five, bad press on the P320 and now the P365... things are changing. Went back to Glock and H&K.

[@PrussianJaeger]

GunTowo CZ?

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I was a die hard fan of Sig in the 90's. Back in the early days of the internet we had things called BBS's. My moniker on our local BBS's was "Sig". However, if a tool fails me I don't ignore it because I'm a mindless fanboy, I move on. It really sucks the P365 is a ticking time bomb for its owners. I honestly believe at this point its not a matter of "if" your P365 will fail, it's only a matter of "when" it will fail. I damn near carried this gun home with me and it could have failed me in a fight for my life. I will never trust this gun again and my disgust of Sig's QC only worsens. I don't know why I keep giving them chances.

[@kamenriderblade2099]

It's the "I Want To Believe" syndrome that many consumers who were/are fans of a company have. Once a company may have had a stellar reputation, but once the public discovers the truth, it divides their fan base / audience / customer base.

[@christopherbarger6112]

GunTowo Hk all day, every day. Never seen a complaint from Hk owners.

[@christopherbarger6112]

Military Arms Channel that’s why your reviews are so helpful. It’s not an unboxing and trigger gauge test. It’s a full test and you tell the truth. I hate watching all these guys get guns and say it’s good, because the manufacturer said to say so. I’m honestly surprised you keep buying Sig.

[@MylesDavid]

Mac, thanks for the vid! So disappointing!! 👎🏼 One of the most unsettling things to me about this situation is the fact that Sig Sauer doesn’t come out and release a statement saying that they are concerned about the multiple failures the firearm has been having by consumers and to express that we are important enough to them that they are seriously looking into the issues the firearm is having, are committed to fixing them, and then either doing a recall or sending out parts etc! When the P320 started having its troubles and we the consumer brought it to their attention, their attitude seemed negative and quite insensitive. Their “voluntary upgrade” was and is a complete insult to our intelligence. It is obvious they said it that way for multiple legal reasons etc. Doesn’t matter! They showed us that they did not care about the consumer as much as they did about their own bottom lines. Of course this is not a first. Companies have acted and responded this way for a long while now. I just never would have expected it to happen from Sig Sauer! I would really like to know your thoughts regarding this? Thx and great job as always! Myles-

[@KD0LRG]

Sig = send in gun

[@BillHimmel]

:-) *Lol*

[@fishman80]

that will come back not fixed. Ask me how I know....

[@footballa57]

damn thats too bad

[@DylanTK]

same... trash company going back 10+ years

[@protectiverailroaddad7541]

Hahahahahahaha! Good one

[@dbwesner9229]

Just watched this after putting 300 rounds through my P365 last weekend. I was prepared to make it my EDC...not now though. Thanks for the no BS content.

[@donaldclark4350]

I really like your honest reviews I thought about buying a Sigg 365 I’m glad I watched your video I have a lot of blocks and they go bang every time

[@I5ZQ8]

Can't wait for this to get fixed. I really want this to replace my Glock 43 for summer carry. I try and never buy 1st to market guns i mean I'm bearly looking at the CZ P10C.

[@SlLAUGHT3R]

you wont regret buying the p10c!

[@Lokyr00]

What's wrong with carrying the 43?

[@jjcuna]

It disappoints me to see such a lack of American pride in production these days. The Germans managed to produce Sig for years that was top notch. My P226 was top of the line in its day and I would still trust my life with it.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I love my German P226.

[@leatherface967]

Joseph Cuna I still carry my p226 mk25. Ever now and then mostly and USP Hk

[@worldtravel101]

Joseph Cuna I've had great luck with my 226

[@madczechoutdoors1088]

I carry my 226 Legion on duty everyday and my Keltec PF9 on my ankle. Neither have ever failed me.

[@mugenrios2k]

P226 MK25 or P224 for me + P290RS for the Girlfriend; I would have loved to have see a P365 sized model from sig that is DA/SA De-cocker. Smaller then the P224 but slightly bigger then the P290

[@donvito2682]

I bought my sig p365 a few months ago. I've never had a problem with it and I hope it stays that way.

[@hailtothe_rooster1572]

Been watching every KZbinr that I know shoots regularly their sig 365 reviews This one finally sealed the deal for me. I'll stick to the rami for summer carry this year

[@scottlefaivre8558]

I've been waiting for your review of this gun. Was looking to replace my M&P Shield with the P365. Looks like I'll be sticking with the Shield...at least for a while.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

I just made the same decision about keeping my PPS. It's been rock solid and I love the little guy.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Yeah, I’m looking hard at the PPS with the integrated Shield RDS (I have it on) for summer carry. I had high hopes for the P365 but once again Sig fails to impress me. I don’t know why I keep giving them chances, I want to believe they’ll turn things around but as long as Cohen is steering the Sig ship it will continue to focus on profits over quality I fear.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

+Miltary Arms Channel Sadly Walther seems to be making some questionable decisions in this department as well (probably due to interference from Umarex) given the cost-cutting design changes witnessed on the PPQ SC. The standard PPQ and PPS are still great Ulm-made guns though.

[@Megames2012]

Scrolling through the comments make me realise how fast people forget the exploding Glocks. First batch guns usually have problems, but Sig did do something right: they took their P320 drop failure to heart and made a 24 point drop test, starting with this pistol.

[@airbomb34]

The FBI's new glocks had to be recalled because their slides were flying off.

[@Megames2012]

no nono So then, you must hate Sig, Glock, Daniel Defense, Remington, and numerous other companies who have had first batch problems. I personally own a Taurus, and it's been more reliable than a Glock, however when they first came out, they were shit. Second gen batches most usually work out the kinks the company didn't know of or didn't address.

[@armedrebellion47]

All Games Just had to throw Glock under the bus didn't you..... Sig is garbage face it!

[@Megames2012]

Armed Rebellion47 Not hard to throw an over priced bomb under the bus. Sig are obviously superior to Glock otherwise Glock would have won the military contract, that and SEALs would use Glock not their 226s. Sig has learned from their failures, and has made great quality firearms for a reasonable price.

[@armedrebellion47]

All Games Oh hush Sig won the contract because of price..... Now our soldiers are equipped with a non reliable piece of Shit called the P 320. A gun that can't even shoot ball Ammo! Are you kidding me!!! An far as the so called "Glock's blowing up" it was probably do to hot reloaded ammunition that some jack ass who didn't know what he was doing... Glock's blowing up, weak trigger springs that was in the glock 9mm gen 4's, what Else??? Because in over 30 year's you really haven't heard to much about Glock's not functioning... Sig is having all type's of issues, it's looking bad, they just need to leave the striker fired gun's alone and leave it to the experts like Glock, M&P, Walther, & HK.... CZ Fanlife😉

[@eliza4661]

Hey MAC We love your videos. You always do such a great job. However, for the first time ever I didn’t wait over 6 months to buy the new gun out on the market. Yes. Even watched some of the videos out there, but didn’t see yours until after I had already bought mine. So this is how my fine Sig p365 performed: it didn’t even make it through the 2nd magazine - stopped firing due to a dead trigger. Sticking with Glock

[@Wilders53]

I just bought the newest model. I gotta say I absolutely love this little gun!! 500 rounds in so far with zero issues👍

[@skeeter2653]

Cool cause I’m waiting for my P365 to be shipped, I have the Smith & Wesson Shield and put a lot of aftermarket upgrades, I love my shield, but I’m anxious to try out the P365...

[@Wilders53]

@@skeeter2653 your going to absolutely love it man!! I tell people my round count now and most don't believe me!! But what I say is absolutely true!! I shoot A LOT!!!! well I did until the ammo shortage. I've put 6250 rounds through it with only 5 light primer strikes! And that was very cheap Russian steel cased ammo! So I don't blame the Sig for that!! I've got a small fortune in it now too!!! Upgraded trigger,trigger springs,treaded barrel,new Armory Craft Tungsten gray grip module, upgraded all my magazines base plates, having my slide milled Now for the Romeo Zero optic, a green lima laser,Tyrant compensator!! And so on!! I'm hooked!!! Hope you enjoy it as much as I have!!!🤘

[@Colhane]

Yesterday I single loaded a round into the chamber of a fieind's SIG 365 and noted the position of the case. The "9" in 9mm was directly at the top of the chamber. The primer drag on the fired case indicates it is caused by the barrel tilting/unlocking, not the extractor. The primer drag points right at the "9".

[@ManuelofAnime]

That's why I decided to stick with my Shield & G43!

[@tactickleshtooper1753]

SIG, as evidenced by their recent quality failures, is paving the way for a new market: disposable firearms. From their current actions it is simple to deduce that they aim to be the Dixie Cups of the disposable firearms market. Insert your $$ into the vending machine, out comes the P320 or P365 that you selected.. On the top of the slide is a reverse counter that counts down telling you approximately how many more rounds many more rounds you can shoot. Then when your SIG determines that it is no longer safe to shoot, it will automagically self-destruct to keep you safe.

[@user-ui8sp5th4g]

Tactickle Shtooper What’s really sad about what you stated is that you may be right. SIG won a military contract and now is to good for its average customers. It amazes me time and time again that you see this with firearm manufacturers that once they become a name brand for the military, they think that they’re to good for quality control. I’m not surprised and what do you expect from a company that charges outrageous prices for magazines.

[@motogun1040]

Glad i didn't buy my Wife this gun. Glad she really liked the 2.0 Shield

[@KimTownsel]

I ordered two holsters for my 365 from Green Force Tactical. The one I have from them for my other Sig has been used daily for a couple of years and is fantastic.

[@bopeton]

Thanks for this video man. I was considering picking up a P365 but wanted to wait and see how they were holding up for others. I'm glad I waited.

[@BenjaminStensberg0613]

This is why I believe in break-in. And why you don't buy the first generation of anything.

[@sulaco2122]

Had the trigger return spring break on a Glock 23 sitting in my holster, had a single shot pistol and didn't know it (Dep Sheriff) until I tried to shoot it on the range.

[@true-fiction]

It's so stupid of Sig to keep pretending like this stuff isn't happening.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Google P365 failures of trigger bar springs and strikers/firing pins. There are countless reports.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Yeah they are acting like the corporate-lawyer spin-speak of yore cuts it anymore. Customers are way more savvy and demand a modicum of transparency and honesty.

[@77tjm]

Been working a lot of overtime shifts lately to save up the $$$ to buy, test, and (possibly) replace my trusty g26 with the p365 for my edc. Now, I have a new perspective to consider before I spend my hard earned dollars.... Thanks man. Seriously. Thank You.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Thanks for watching.

[@jeffarthur322]

Thanks I got something to look at now “ primer drag “ I’ve been reloading for 26 years now. Glad to see this

[@H.Green83]

I gotta get one of these for my wife.

[@ninorcsinned3465]

That's weird.. you must not really like her.

[@worldtravel101]

Deplorable Papa LOL I wouldn't get any kind of gun from my mother in law. She might throw it at me if it doesn't work well. I guess I'd rather get smacked with a subcompact though haha

[@christopherbarger6112]

hunter Green relationship that rough huh?

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I about pissed myself laughing. This gets a pin.

[@fee_lo8346]

Please tell me you watched the video till the end. You will be a internet god.

[@scottbuttrick-w8skb396]

Sig must be using Remington’s QC people.

[@RonSpilker]

*Taurus

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

Yeah, primer smear is typically a sign of a weak or insufficient recoil spring. And this whole trend of running weaker springs or putting lightening cuts all over the slide to get faster cycling either creates the issue or exacerbates it. If the primer is coming out smeared the slide and case are not staying in battery long enough for the primer to stop flowing and the firing pin to retract before the extraction and ejection phase are underway. In the case of the P365 I'm seeing signs that the spring isn't strong enough for the oh so short length of travel is has to work in. The fact that the +P ammo showed a more pronounced smear than the standard pressure 9mm all but confirms it for me. Mix that with crappy heat treatments or just outright poor firing pin material. And the issues you guys are seeing doesn't surprise me in the least!

[@deezkeez]

Great explanation, thank you.

[@RyanLackey]

Does that mean someone could possibly fix this aftermarket with a stouter spring and upgraded striker/firing pin assembly, especially if you were sticking to specific ammo?

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

Ryan Lackey Funny you say that. Galloway Precision just announced a few days ago they will be offering a number of upgrade parts for the P365. And if I'm not mistaken a stainless guide rod assembly was one of them. So you may want to check in with them. As for the ammo? I'm never a fan of any gun that is ammo picky. Guns like that I just say F it and unload them. But that's just me. Hope the Galloway info helps brother.

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

mcclanehallenbeck Some of it is. Give it an aesthetically pleasing look. But the purpose of the cuts was to lighten the slide to help reduce some of the recoil and increase the cycling speed. I've never been a fan of that BS. Faster slide cycling also means increased wear. And a lighter slide without a stronger spring also means you get primer smear. Many or most 40's deal with that same issue because a vast majority of the time manufacturers put the same spring in they do for their 9mm counterpart.

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

mcclanehallenbeck The whole lightening cuts thing came from the competition circuits. Guys wanting a faster cycling gun with a reduced weight slide to mitigate that reciprocating mass. As for what companies made a name for themselves as the trend caught on. I'm not sure. As I said I was never a fan. Competition guns also break faster and need more repairs/up keep. Not a quality I want in a self defense carry gun.

[@preacherF-15]

I'm a master gunsmith/armorer, so I already knew the answer to this question, but just to be certain... I keep one spent brass from the last magazine fired from each of my pistols. It goes in a small ziplock bag and is hung behind each gun in it's spot in my gun room. I've been a gunsmith and a collector for over 40 years- I own several hundred pistols, speaking of semi auto carry weapons alone. I went through all of the saved brass from each of my roughly 300 semi auto carry guns. I could not find even one visible example of firing pin dragging on any of them. To be honest, I would notice this as I put the gun away and it would be scheduled for repair. Pin dragging can be caused by ammo- soft primers can cause the firing pin to hang up. But I only shoot my own reloads or known, quality shelf ammo. More typically, pin dragging is caused by excessive gunk in the striker channel, a weak recoil spring, or a rough firing pin, that hangs up as it passes through the hole in the slide that the firing pin passes through to reach the primer. Fixes are, use harder primers, clean the gun more thoroughly, replace the recoil spring, and debur the firing pin hole and/or polish the length of the firing pin. For a gun of Sig's supposed quality to leave the factory with this problem is difficult to excuse. It seems that no matter what, when it comes to compact EDC guns, my top 3 remain my top 3. My G27 that was my backup in SWAT. I have thousands of training hours invested in it. We used the MP-5 in .40, the G23C as primary sidearm, and the G27 as backup. My G43 that is my minimalist edc, great for belly band or SOB holster, etc My CZ Rami for when I must carry concealed but I feel the threat level is high. Few guns will pull me away from Glock reliability, but the Rami is one. I buy the .40 Rami but swap out the barrel for the very thick walled 9mm aftermarket barrel. I have 4 of these and have put them through hell, and have never had a single feed or fire issue. I own a lot of high end guns, but surprisingly, my SHTF collection is mostly Glock, CZ, FN, AR15, MBS995, and RUGER, My overwatch choices are more mainstream.. My Barrett .50 for asset denial and my .338 lapua mag on a 700 chassis for soft targets. We'd better all begin preparing. Things are going south quickly.

[@MaxRank]

I’ve owned multiple Sigs, but nowadays I’m fully H&K. I carry a VP9sk. Only gun I’ve ever owned that I’ve not modified or changed. Awesome pistol.

[@07zx14White]

Sig USA just isn't up to snuff yet. This really is sad. One of the highest quality and highest praised brands for many many years. So many years of top notch innovation and history in the Swiss military. It's all being tarnished with seemingly substandard factory testing and or materials "chinsing." I was hoping heavily that the internet bad talk on the 365 would be the typical nonsense regurgitated from biased people with zero real experience that we all see on the net, but alas it's true this time. Thanks for keeping things honest MAC.

[@tetlow2]

no nono hey but it will be the only "vette" I could ever own. And if you buy a corvette from the 90's there isn't much difference between them.

[@BossManSays]

Knowing the gun and Tim's thorough testing this gun won't hack it.

[@chrisn3069]

Oh Sig, I want to like you, I want to enjoy your firearms. But everytime I look at you, I see a dumpster fire glaring back at me.

[@christopherbarger6112]

Chris N yup. Stick to Glock, Hk, Beretta. Just my $0.02

[@sorryociffer]

ChrisPewKreme CZ and Walther too...

[@PROutdoors94]

The only thing that interests me from Sig anymore is the MPX but even then it’s god damned expensive up here in Canada.

[@christopherbarger6112]

TheAveragePlinker it’s cheap in comparison to an SP5K. I wish I was Swiss. They can get MP5s cheaper than a US SCAR

[@ActualHumanPerson]

TheAveragePlinker - that MPX should have been designed to accept 226 mags.

[@user-ro9dz4of5y]

I didn't realize it was having so many issues. I'm really glad y'all made this video, I've really been wanting a 365 (not that I can find one right now). Im sure Sig will weed out a lot of these problems, they are a reputable company. But I'm probably not going to get one of these for a couple years now, if ever.

[@mattpearson7811]

Tim, as usual you are top notch. Thanks for testing to the 900 rd failure, thorough!!! This is a serious issue, my prior carry was a Springfield XD Sub compact. The exact thing happened to me when I went to re-qual. I'm on the range with instructor, first round.....click. Good news is I think Sig will fix it, a validate a promising new firearm. Glad I waited to purchase.

[@rudyp9446]

I’ll stick with my Glock26 for now...

[@markallemand5738]

Rudy Priepke same here man

[@puma51921]

I purchased 3 different sigs all have been recalled.

[@Tuton25]

To be fair to Sig, there is a certain percentage of problems with a new product that won’t be found until the product is on the market, and there are a number of reasons for this. First is the transition from prototype to production, the team that develops a functioning hand fitted prototype isn’t necessarily the same team that does the redesign work for mass production. There is also the expense of destructive testing, if Sig wanted to test the service life of 20 pistols to the tune of 30,000 rounds each (assuming that each firearm is $500 and 100 rounds of ammo is $20 for mathematical simplicity) would cost upwards of $130,000 alone, on top of paying for the engineering consulting and statistical analysis. On top of this the sample size is small enough that you might not find the failure. Also there is also the proportion of failures you see versus the proportion of success you see. Think about it in terms of air-travel, the only time airlines are in the news is when there is a problem or crash, but you never see the tens of thousands of flights a year that go off without a hitch. I’m not saying there aren’t problems with the P365, there obviously are, but I’m not so quick to jump on the bandwagon that Sig had malicious intent.

[@kerk5520]

I don't have anywhere near that amount of rounds thru my P365, but I will most certainly rethink it as my carry gun. Thank you!

[@bowhunter8235]

I am HAPPY TO REPORT. I watched this video last night. After watching, I was concerned... I'm a new carry owner. Also former military. I Watched a lot of KZbin Military Special Opps guys compare and evaluate. I bought the Sig 365 SAS. Just got back from firing range. 35 rounds 2ea 10 round mags 1ea 15 round mag No firing pin drag. Every dot is spot on. I'm very happy.

[@HeavyAndLow]

The SAS is an interesting one. Was the gun accurate?

[@Steven-gv1ke]

Whats so interesting is everyone acts like Sig accomplished something no other manufacturer ever has by creating a 10 round mag in this small of a gun... oh wait... Kel-Tec made a SMALLER, LIGHTER, HIGHER CAPACITY and less than HALF the price pistol than the Sig P365 for YEARS! Ladies and gentlemen, meet the Kel-Tec P11 that apparently nobody knows about. Specs: Sig P365- 5.8"x4.3"x1"; 17.8oz;10+1 rnd; $499 Kel-Tec P-11- 5.6"x4.3"x1"; 14oz; 12+1 rnd; $204

[@HotBrass-Lead]

Lol your actually comparing a keltec to a sig 😂