I want something OTHER than an AR15!

[@TheCowboymateo]

Are u using the acog as a magnifier on the ace? Cause of what u guys said in past video, the acog not being stable and holding zero?

[@Militaryarmschannel]

It's what we're calling "Hollywood B-roll" or something stupid you would see in a movie. 😂

[@TheCowboymateo]

@@Militaryarmschannel oh and you see some stupid stuff in movies. 😂

[@TheCowboymateo]

@@Militaryarmschannel I was gonna say that's one expensive magnifier!!

[@minnesotanice369]

Can't you just jb weld optics on so they don't move and take that stock to a bench grinder or sawzall it down

[@mannys9130]

@Aphrodite Fantin ...are you having a stroke? 😶 Whoa.

[@BackInTheCountry]

1:45 Beretta ARX-100 7:05 IWI Galil ACE 10:24 CZ Bren 2 14:45 Sig MCX Virtus

[@holylettuce4730]

“ I want something other than an AR” Military Arms: Here is a list Brandon Herrera: *Soviet Anthem Plays*

[@rzr2ffe325]

The Ak is a symbol of communism

[@richardlindquist5936]

@@rzr2ffe325 Not so. Plenty of us Non Marxist Non communist types value them. Freedom is as Freedom does.

[@ShyTentacle]

@@richardlindquist5936 and Rzr2ffe, you're both two sides of the same coin.

[@jay_idk337]

Ar is a symbol of American retardness

[@kyotra]

@@rzr2ffe325 Gun is gun.

[@fmart3315]

it’s a great thing we live in the USA and not Canada...

[@KM_1983]

We are on the same track though. Wouldn't take much for them to do it here. I want to trust Trump but with his track record on banning stuff....... gets me nervous. If it did go through I would HOPE that everyone would actually STAND UP AND FIGHT! Literally fight and remove the traitors.

[@greatBLT]

@@KM_1983 yeah, man. also, republican senators in maine, montana, north carolina, and arizona are in very real danger of losing their seats this year, which would hand the senate to the democrats (seems just about guaranteed that mcsally and collins will lose their seats). couple that with the possibility of trump losing...no fuckin bueno for american gun owners

[@tetlow2]

@@KM_1983 I agree. The politicians want the same thing for all of us. It scares me because here in Maryland they pass gun laws based on things that have never happened anywhere in the state. In 2013 they banned a lot of really nice weapons over that kid in Connecticut. The whole thing is bullshit. I don't need a babysitter but the state thinks otherwise. And the list of what's illegal and not is a clear representation of their ignorance.

[@lkae4]

It's not D vs R. It's man vs God. I heard an atheist podcast where the host said there's nothing objectively immoral about incest as long as no children are born. None of his guests objectived. None. There's only one anchor that works against the drift left into Marxism and the worship of power. Only one.

[@fmart3315]

from what I’ve seen at the Bundy ranch and seeing Patriots standing up to politicians & police with this covid flu, there’d be a civil war if a president tried to do what that pansy in Canada has done..

[@jayyharrisproductionstri-c1876]

“I play call of duty on a PlayStation 4” what a cool great grandpa this guy is

[@Castragroup]

cod after black ops 1 is shit

[@georgewhitworth9742]

bossalanator Well, your opinon then

[@jackmehoff0371]

Probably never fired a real gun in your life.

[@tfeltmat2903]

I especially love Beretta's ambidextrous trigger, barrel, and pic rails!

[@bladelt1234]

Can't have these in CHINA ... I mean CANADA anymore....

[@tylerthegrimm]

Sure you can. You just have to be an outlaw, but when your government seeks to take full control it's better to be an outlaw than a slave.

[@bladelt1234]

@@gixxerpwns lol... so true

[@highsecurityagent8778]

Can you still get the Keltec SU-16 series rifles in Canada?

[@bladelt1234]

@@highsecurityagent8778 regardless if you can, if this goes through without opposition, they will eventually take away all forms of guns.

[@goku0910]

@@highsecurityagent8778 I don't remember for sure but I think it's one of the 1500 firearms banned...

[@JAD77755]

You're mag was inserted, you just never chambered a round lol. Absolutely love my MCX. Hands down my favorite gun. And just like that, they'll start calling you a Sig lover instead of a Sig hater, watch.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I do stupid stuff all the time. Haha.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

Oh, and I'll go from a Sig basher to being a paid shill for Sig. 😂

[@JAD77755]

@@Militaryarmschannel no doubt. Hey if they offer to send you any free stuff just send em my way. I'll gladly accept it 😂

[@duncanmcclellan4086]

What is the difference between an AR and the MCX? Is it a different bcg? Obviously it is cosmetically unique but I don’t understand the difference.

[@JAD77755]

@@duncanmcclellan4086 the piston gas system a different than the traditional DI system, but some ARs also have this. The recoil spring system is different, no buffer tube needed. barrels can be easily swapped in minutes by just loosening a couple screws. A lot of the high wear areas are small inserts that are user replaceable. From a lot of tests I've read about they seem to have a longer life before any parts breakage. I'm sure there's some more that I can't think of off hand.

[@milesj.943]

This dude's all about reliability and readiness and he drives a Jeep?

[@kennethcurtis1856]

​@Jonathan Spier​ Cherokee XJ, 304,000; Grand Cherokee Currently 267,000; Liberty currently 180,000; Cherokee KL currently 15,000. ... and the XJ is mod to a full trail Jeep and has about 400,000 after we gave it to our son. See ya on the trails in Colorado or Moab.

[@TROOPERfarcry]

... he likes to practice malfunction-drills in his vehicle, but not his gun?

[@michaelblacktree]

JEEP = Just Empty Every Pocket 😛

[@bmstylee]

@@michaelblacktree I would go with FIAT. Fix It Again Tony.

[@anthonysmalawipredators8794]

@@kennethcurtis1856 right lol where was he going with this?! From my experience jeep has been the most bulletproof brand i've ever driven.

[@j.gordonellis4175]

Tim, I was always taught "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." After shooting DI AR platforms for over 39 years, I think it's a keeper. In all those years I have never had a stoppage that was not magazine related and less than 5 that were. That includes the old worn out M16A1 and A2 I shot in basic training. Enjoyed the video all the same.

[@BareSphereMass]

Ignoring some of the requirements and just going with "is not an AR-15" I would say: 1. FightLite SCR carbine 2. x95 3. Bren 2 pistol 4. FightLite DCR (belt fed upper)

[@BareSphereMass]

​@@madmaxd1 yes... The part where I say "Ignoring some of the requirements" kinda lets you know I was ignoring some of the requirements like no bullpup's...

[@LiviuFloreaRo]

The CZ Bren 805 Gen 2 Carabine ( 16 inch barrel) are now available on Gunbroker.

[@braidonutley8938]

Nobody wants to pay $1000+ over retail 🤣

[@bryanupton9872]

Liviu Florea bren 2 carbine is getting a little outside its intended design by being 7.5lbs. Glad I got my hands on some of the original 2s’s to come into county

[@malus911]

Up here in Canada, "other than an AR15" is the new normal. Don't give up your rights my American brothers, the government is coming for your guns....

[@hailtothe_rooster1572]

malus911 You guys don’t fight for it up there? They just tell you what’s gonna happen and comply right?

[@malus911]

@@hailtothe_rooster1572 Pretty much...

[@kennygp2004]

@@hailtothe_rooster1572 unfortunately most will in the US. Look at what happened in Odessa TX yesterday. 8 armed protesters legally open carrying and legally protesting were arrested by Swat in an Mrap. Most will comply because they have been programmed to.

[@chrissequioa4376]

@@hailtothe_rooster1572 we're certainly fighting, but not violently.

[@sammiches6859]

@@chrissequioa4376 You should be by now. We'll help you out too. Would be a good practice run and a lot easier on my conscious knowing I'm only up against tree blood drinking sadists.

[@SYSTEM__32]

Posted just in time for Canada’s AR15 ban.

[@jay_idk337]

U can shoot at a range tho I think

[@jimy1354]

Jay_idk no，we been ban to shoot and sell

[@jay_idk337]

Unlucky :(

[@appendixcarrybear9141]

Don’t comply

[@ericferguson9989]

@@appendixcarrybear9141 The problem is that AR15s are registered, so sticking them in thw barn won't work.

[@1683clifton]

to be honest, I absolutely love the way your camera/editor attenuates the volume of the audible report of most all your shooting to nearly eliminate the loud report of the 5.56. just chiming in on that. Its almost like your using a suppressor when there clearly is none. my headphone ears thank you.

[@georgiobenelli4854]

FNC,,, DAE WOO AR 100,,, AR 18, GALIL,,, MINI 14 ,,, these are in my collection. ALL BOUGHT WAY BACK IN 1980'S, All bought for less than $325.00. All use stanag mag.

[@CML-ng5ez]

I have an ARX and absolutely love it.

[@zachconroy1443]

Tim, he comes from a land down under, 6 foot 4 and full of muscle.

[@Japanese_moped_guy]

I said do you speaka my languaaage?

[@mapled3135]

Anything but a vegemite sandwich.

[@EastCoastMan603]

Ya better run ya better take cover.

[@zachconroy1443]

Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?

[@seanomeirs8362]

Where women glow and men plunder.

[@CoryHobbs2178]

The non reciprocating charging handle alone makes the Bren superior

[@ProbablyTooLoud]

The Bren MS2 Pistol is a pure joy in every way !

[@joelnagy8291]

You can find ar’s with side charging uppers everywhere. He just showed me a bunch of ar variants. I’ll stick with my ar’s I built.

[@kennetic9196]

And it doesn't have a swappable pistol grip so that makes it inferior so we're back to square one.

[@ProbablyTooLoud]

It's about what's on the inside that counts most. Pistol grips are like flavors of beer. Either way, at least we're not Canada, yet.

[@kennetic9196]

@@ProbablyTooLoud emphasis on yet

[@AhHereWeGo]

If the MPX makes the cut for “not based off of the AR15” I’m surprised that we didn’t see the SU16 on this list.

[@LouCars]

Indeed

[@biggboysouth]

CZ bren 2 16" rifles are slowly coming into the states already. They're kinda unicorns but there have been a few sitings on gunbroker.

[@belowme4927]

NO MINI 14? STOP LAUGHING

[@ftdefiance1]

It doesn't take stanag magazines. Ruger branded 20 round magazines are sold for 35.00 dollars.

[@belowme4927]

@@ftdefiance1 PRO-MAGS ARE BETTER AND LESS EXPENSIVE

[@JoeyBaby47]

How about a mini gun?

[@LUlmer]

If you go rock and lock mags, why not go with the 308 socom?

[@mattgent8599]

Promag is trash and the mini14 is good at literally nothing

[@straightwhacker5329]

I’m still trying to get my hands on a Biden AR- 14. Although I’m not sure what caliber option they have

[@stink8134]

I got mine in 800mm rapid fire explosive napalm anti-tank armour piercing .30 caliber clipazine, but I heard they also offer a cheaper short barrel version in 700mm poisonous slugs

[@unkulwilly]

Get the one with the 30 caliber clip and the shoulder thing that goes up!

[@MrRoboskippy]

Make sure it's fully semi automatic.

[@kennyggrant8059]

Make sure to get you some assault clips as well.😂

[@literallyramennoodles7393]

Dont you know it weights as much as 10 boxes you might be carrying?

[@michaelblacktree]

I also went through one of those "I want something different" phases. Long story short, I ended up building another AR... chambered in 9x19. The caliber change was enough to scratch that itch. And a 9mm AR pistol is a fun little plinker.

[@jeffjones6794]

Keltek sub 2000. 9mm. Great action

[@rockelino]

Shout out for mentioning the Sig MCX as the "M13" in Modern Warfare!

[@ReverendMeat51]

I'd throw in some love for the XCR as well, thankful that mine never had issues, it shot great and I miss it

[@MrShtbrick]

That Beretta ARX100, I had no idea until now that they were available in color other than black.

[@daniellau5859]

I had the option to buy an ARX 100 for 500$... but i was lied to, being told it was an AR, so i was robbed

[@daniellau5859]

@Eugene Stoner but MAC just said they are accurate... and HIGHLY doubtful that the trigger pull is 15lbs.

[@SmithASB]

Eugene Stoner there’s a company that makes an after market trigger

[@SmithASB]

Eugene Stoner also, I have a stock ARX in a SBR setup (registered) and it’s pretty good imo

[@daniellau5859]

@Eugene Stoner because i dont know much about a certain firearm means im new to firearms? Thats stupid logic. And i thought you said 15 lbs trigger pull? Now its 12? Thats a good way to get people not to believe a word you say. Funny how youre tryin to belittle someone over two sentences that were in no way shape or form an attack on your person.

[@rurouniad]

Scar 16 owner and I just shrug. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Sure it could be cheaper. Has a couple quirks and could use a modern update. To me it needed zero “fixes” out of the gate. Everyone else’s mileage may vary. To some people a m&p sport II has all they need with zero upgrades.

[@tlwisner]

After I replaced the trigger in my ARX-100 (Shooting Site trigger) it really came to life. But everybody needs an AR-15 too.

[@daspiper8941]

My 7.62mm AK Rifles satisfies my my need for "something other than a AR15". ;>)

[@HookLine48]

I knew I’d find you here! Hope you’ve been able to stock up on plenty of 7.62x39, haven’t found any in stock at my local shop for a bit

[@zigzag11875]

Tim: Here's a list of guns that aren't AR-15s Canadians: Taking notes

[@drewcifer2a]

I got to handle a bren 2 this morning. And I must say I was impressed.

[@joeclaridy]

How did it shoot compared to the AR and AK?

[@turbografx16]

ARX, sounds like it was $1000 overpriced when it was released.

[@floridaman6138]

I held off on it, then I ran across it for under $800, and for what you get it's well worth that

[@hag12100]

Yeah, it was overpriced...I would buy one for around $1000, not $1800. The other issues besides the grip would be the magazine compatibility issues, there should be M-Lok, and the trigger is stiff.

[@hakimcameldriver]

I remember every reviewer commenting on how inaccurate these guns were. Something like 5moa groups once warm

[@alexglenn2122]

I'm a huge fan of Beretta guns but that company can't get out of their own way. The ARX could have easily succeeded if they kept the promise of their conversion kits. They, like remington/bushmaster with the ACR, never followed through with the best part of the rifle. That, and they did 0 research. A couple small edits before going to the US market would have helped a ton. It's a damn shame they never took the updates from the ARX200 and applied them to the 100 for a gen2.

[@oncrx]

@@cummins24421 where are they available for $800?

[@t1ddys]

Praying for the expedited release of a 308 bren 2 🙏

[@StevenL00]

and a 6.5 CM after that

[@thesmirkingwolf]

When I originally got my MCX, I didn't like it- but then I began to fall in love with it. Had the option of the Virtus, but I chose the legacy (since I can always partly upgrade) and added the collapsible folder and the Lance carbon fiber handguard- talk about finding the "sweet spot!" I use it in the swamps of Floridastan, and it is a superb "jungle rifle" that can chew/spit out anything that gets caught inside of it and easily shoot sub MOA with good ammo. It's much lighter than the Virtus, which is a perk when you heft it all day. Also, the legacy barrels were super cheap to come by when Virtus came out, so I snagged an extra (as well as a bolt group) for the sake of longevity. I'll never get rid of this thing.

[@m.d.e.845]

I have Sig’s MCX. It’s a nail driver. Clean shooting rifle. I love that it comes with sights and a sling. The rail system is great as well.

[@Rabbit0317]

I really wanna see that new PSA JAKL.

[@SA-xf1eb]

Yes!

[@ratagris21]

It looks very promising indeed.

[@doctorcropse2795]

same

[@project86xero]

The jackal does look cool. 300 blackout short barrel model to start and a 10.5 inch 5.56 latter. Although it might not be the most accurate thing in the world seeing as it's a long stroke gas piston. I wish it was a short stroke, but you can't have everything. Also I like that they're working on an ak that takes standard AR mags. PSA may not be the best company in terms of quality. I mean it's not BCM, LWRC, etc. However they're changing the gun industry and community for the better as a whole. An their quality is more than acceptable.

[@danielboydcooper6850]

Same here! excited AF!

[@deathdler8226]

I’m sticking with my BCMs/DDs 😎

[@randomname0]

😂😂😂

[@AlaskanBallistics]

That beretta needs an angled grip or vertical foregrip

[@incapableunicorn8252]

Seems to be a really nice rifle with tons of features let down by a somewhat lacking layout.

[@durim187]

Alaskan Ballistics i was about to say that

[@pedromiguelalmeida4446]

that beretta it's not military, is the civilian version. the true beretta, where the 100 come from, is the arx160 and there are a many external differences. search the italian army photos and you will see.

[@robsnizzle7]

That Beretta I'm sure is insanely reliable because well.... it's a Beretta let's face it.... uglier then sin though, Jesus. Lol.

[@dakotamcatee2807]

Just bought the Galil ace and I love it

[@brians2733]

You know the Galil is a favorite when you’re slapping an ACOG on top...

[@Crosshair84]

3:34: "Couldn't get over the weird ergonomics." Yes, having a charging handle that isn't an afterthought and actually built for humans is such an odd feature for AR guys.

[@jb76489]

Lmao, imagine thinking the ARX 100 has a good charging handle

[@mattgent8599]

Yes, because the location of the charging handle is the only determining factor for what makes a firearm ergonomic.

[@timothymiller9067]

Not sure if you have handled one of these, but they are kinda goofy. I really wanted one before I got hands on with it, killed my love immediately.

[@Crosshair84]

@@jb76489 That may be true, but it's still better than an AR.

[@Crosshair84]

@@mattgent8599 Hey now, my humor is quality and work exactly what you paid for it. :P

[@austin0351]

I'm pretty darn pleased with my X95 as my AR-15 alternative, still want a Virtus in 300 blackout though.

[@JWG2014]

X95 was my alternative too. The cost is high but its a great gun. I like to sell my 2 ARs to buy one more X95

[@rymic72]

I’m really loving my BRN 180 as an alternative to a standard AR.

[@laytonaschauer3675]

The longevity of your old BCM on this channel is what lead me to buy my first BCM upper earlier this year

[@stevekynard6658]

I've owned 2 AR's. One in 5.56, the other in 7.62x39. They just don't hang around long with me. I'm just old school. I love my revolvers, bolt actions and lever actions. Especially like my rifle and revolver to shoot the same round. Like my 45 Colt Vaquero and 45 Colt Rossi 92. Also my 22 lr SP101 and RIA 22 lr bolt action.

[@zachconant7031]

This video reminded me that PSA needs to update us on the JAKL

[@Militaryarmschannel]

I saw it at SHOT and it looks super cool, but it was far from finished. 2021 maybe would be my guess.

[@zachconant7031]

Military Arms Channel oh wow I didn’t think it was that far off.

[@ThrashTillDeth85]

@@zachconant7031 Yeah they said roughly next year at least, namely cause they're doing just so much stuff with AKs this year into next year and the DAGR this year I believe they said

[@zachconant7031]

ThrashTillDeth85 hopefully their ak74 is awesome

[@Geremy2Taps]

I’ve always thought that the arx is underrated. Glad to see that it’s not just me. Maybe I’ll pick one up sometime !

[@7.62x39-b]

As a Californian, I can only dream to ever put my hands on one of those magnificent pieces of engineering. Thanks politicians.

[@bud613]

The politicians are not the masters of the people. They work for us. If they do things the majority of the people disagree with or infringe the Constitution, 86 them and make them unemployed. Easy as that.

[@Kriss_L]

You should thank the voters that keep reelecting the tyrants ruling CA.

[@brettkos3081]

The VA gun rights rally really should've inspired Californians to do their own rally. I see you guys losing more and more rights and doing nothing about it

[@bigbob3772]

@@bud613 Awwww, come on, can't we hang a few? Pretty please? Just a few?

[@ProbablyTooLoud]

Move to a free state, what handful still exist any way.

[@PrescottCaliberClub]

I love the ejection pattern on your Jeep gun! I’ve never fired the ARX and although I’m a Beretta fan I mainly don’t like how tall the hand guards are on that rifle. It appears clunky to me. The Galil 329 is one of my favorite AK style rifles. I’ve always wanted that Galil Ace but I’ve never heard of the trigger slap issue. Lastly, you know I love the Bren 2. I have a few of them, all of mine are original 2s and I believe they are the nicest assault style rifles on the market and are very fairly priced for what they are. AWESOME video! I found that I really enjoy some old classics like the French MAS49 converted to 308, picked it up for like $650. Another option these days is an SKS or used AK. There are so many aftermarket parts that can be installed by the end user now days that I think with a bit of frugal thought and patience you can get a really nicely setup AK for the price of a set up AR.

[@pedromiguelalmeida4446]

the beretta, very similar to this one, that is standard in the italian military is (in 5.56x45) the Berettta ARX 160, supported by the (7.62x51) Beretta ARX 200. The beretta you're using is the ARX 100, the semi-auto version of the ARX 160 that was intended and produced for the civilian market. Hoped to the see the new israeli standard riffle, the iwi Tavor X95 instead of the weaker export gun, the galil ace, standard issue in colombian mitilary (all branches) and chilean army. Nothetheless, great video, loved to watch it and also loved the other rifles you chose beyond the ones mentioned (the great cz bren 2 [there's also a bren2 BR in 7.62x51] and the "killer" sig mcx virtus. Still I believe most countries are underrating the beretta arx series as well as the excelent cz bren2 series, wouldn't you agree?. Thanks. Waiting for more great videos, you sure know how to do them.

[@baron1c]

Tavor, and the AUG a3 would be 2 great additions to this list

[@lencomatt]

I wish the Robinson XCR would've caught on a little better, I always thought it was a cool rifle

[@dphitch]

Yeah, I've got an older one and they are a little on the heavy side but the newer ones are more refined and lighter and they have great ergo's.

[@fortyfive4632]

I hope they really bring the M96 back like they’re saying they are.

[@rurouniad]

I own one and a scar. I planned on giving the xcr to my son so it sits quietly in the safe.

[@RockSolitude]

@@rurouniad fortunate son

[@rurouniad]

RockSolitude thanks it’s a good rifle I’ve considered another one but not sure I want to spend the cash.

[@AgentXRifle]

*posts video about AR alternatives the day Canada bans selling them*

[@HK-qj4im]

My Galil Ace is a great gun. I have just never really bonded with it. I like old school stuff. But the ACE would serve you well. Accurate. Love the charging handle on the left side.

[@GrayGhostDog1]

I'm a southpaw, so wish it were on the right!

[@mattperry9505]

I have owned that Zastava M85pap AK pistol for years. Flawless performance, zero issues.

[@stevewalsh1935]

I love how the last one on the list is still a heavily altered AR. lol

[@MattyLight30]

CZ 805 is the best non AR rifle. Too bad CZ decided to ruin a great thing and use their grandmother’s waffle iron to mold the lower on those abominations.

[@TheDuke659]

For some weird reason I like that ARX? Never considered one.

[@houndsong]

Get one. Better than advertised.

[@PenDragonsPig]

Check out the piece of video where youre firing the older galil. The magazine is pushed from side to side and stays there until a round is stripped from the other side. The movement is as much as 7 or 8 degrees or maybe the same number in milimeters maybe a tad less.

[@Mortablunt]

THANK YOU! I've been saying this for years! People just said to me "Why mess with perfection?" it's not all about on-paper stats! Otherwise the only foods we'd eat would be nutrient-infused tofus washed down with plain room temp water.

[@meangreen320]

AR15 is the safest decision: cheap entry level , you can build it as bomb proof and battle ready/precision competition prone as you can afford, its future proof due to aftermarket and everyone developing for the design, and the most modulated rifle being able to shoot tons of ammo sizes with a bolt and barrel change

[@muffinxcancer]

"future proof" tell that to the Canadians lol

[@ProbablyTooLoud]

AR15's are not "bomb proof". They have a fatal flaugh in the design that makes me no longer trust them. What is it you ask? The gas key and it doesn't matter how well you stake it and there is no thread locker that can withstand the heat. Short of a micro weld, it can come loose and when it does, you will be left with a one shot wonder, until it becomes so loose, all that is left is a club. Just because it hasn't happened to you yet, doesn't mean it won't or can't. Just sayin.....just sayin ( - :

[@meangreen320]

Kyle Reese then why do special forces use KAC , Noveske , BCM , Colt etc uppers on their M4s? I guess special forces like to just train themselves for failure clearance mid fire fight lol

[@meangreen320]

Mathias Sawka A Mil-Spec ar15 made 10 plus years ago can have modern barrels, bolt carriers, stocks, buffer tubes, etc with quick changes . You can even put a gas piston upper on an ar15 witching a minute. You can also go from 556 to 6.5 Grendel with a quick upper change/bolt and barrel change and still use the same mags... so yes it’s future proof lol

[@muffinxcancer]

@@meangreen320 no what I meant was the government just made them all highly illegal. Like all of them, upper and lower receivers. In Canada anyways

[@ratagris21]

Whenever people say this will be a killer - generally fail.

[@jason75418]

I don't think it failed. Now Beretta failed the people by not offering what they promised. Other than that, the rifle is still running like it should. It does what it's suppose to.

[@jason75418]

Oh ok, I thought was talking about AR killer. My bad

[@ratagris21]

There's the Glock Killer, the AR killer, etc etc...in the end people still go back what is to be killed. Barrera was charging to much for not enough product for the money. Therefore you now have an $800 is rifle. You can get a decent quality AR or AK for that amount.

[@AlexKS1992]

Cough cough .224 Valkyrie cough

[@ratagris21]

@@AlexKS1992 exactly and it's a long and forgotten. 223 / 5.56 mm killer. Over hyped and not even rated.

[@AM-hf9kk]

Why is "not a bullpup" a requirement? And that Virtus is just an Piston AR at a higher price-point, same as the HK 416.

[@PHIllip324]

Yeah but unlike the HK you actually have some chance at affording it, plus unlike the HK you can get it in .223 or .300 Blackout.

[@rustyshackleford17]

I assume it's for the people who want traditional pattern for the rifle.

[@Courtesyflush52]

Im guessing because bullpups are too different from an AR and a dog to shoot with their crappy triggers Also a Virtus is very different from an HK416. A 416 is a piston driven AR15. The Virtus while still piston. has a totally different bolt system

[@ccfmfg]

MAC,If you have trigger slap on any Galil, the Rifle is over gassed. Usually only Match ammo does this or You are a using higher pressure ammo than the rifle was designed for. A Buffer Technologies Polyurethane Buffer will usually fix this and or a KNS Adjustable Gas Piston System. The Standard 7.62 x 51 Galils especially had this problem when used with Match or Machine Gun ammunition because the Higher pressure ammo would make the bolt carrier hit the rear of the receiver to hard or at all.

[@Bowwex]

In 2018 when I trained with the Italian Marines in Sardinia, they all talked about how much they did not care for the ARX-100. They said it was unreliable. It’s a very light rifle but a little wonky. They also had the Franchi Spas-15 as a breaching weapon. They didn’t like that gun either haha. I didn’t even know that weapon existed.

[@ramdom_assortment]

A reasonable alternative to the AR15? There is one, it's called an AKM.

[@karvast5726]

He said that takes stanag and shoot 5,56

[@Charles-cs3nj]

Well the galil ace he showed is an ak.

[@StevenL00]

@@Charles-cs3nj which is 5.56 and takes STANAG mags Edit: and it's not an AR15

[@pedromiguelalmeida4446]

I would understand ak's series 100, ak 12, and ak 15. but a old rifle like an akm? the new ak15 beats in in all points.

[@ramdom_assortment]

@@pedromiguelalmeida4446 I was really referring to AKM variants in general and hte reason I mentioned AKMs is because they are at a similar price point to ARs.

[@PedroMartinez-hw6uy]

On the ARX's short length of pull, I think beretta put into consideration Italy's military would normally shoot these wearing plate carriers.

[@RockSolitude]

Italians are often a little smaller than Americans too

[@PedroMartinez-hw6uy]

Yeah a little shorter stature. I'm Mexican and holy hell I had a tough time shooting CQB with my M16 in the creamed corn

[@pedromiguelalmeida4446]

you're forgettin the most important: the people which use the gun. and it was intended mainly for the italian army and its soldiers... you know, heigh is different, latins like me are smaller than the american people in general. try to take that in consideration.

[@GusFogle]

I've got a few AR's already and wanted something "unique" for my next purchase. Ended up with a TommyBuilt G36; definitely in the "absurd" price range but as a collector as well as shooter I couldn't be happier with how different it feels, shoots and handles compared to an AR.

[@jshaw1503]

Those are fucking sick, I’m jealous

[@jay_idk337]

Americans love German guns

[@jay_idk337]

What u on about? All I said was Americans love German guns Which is true

[@jay_idk337]

The new standard rifle for the us army Is a German sig I like guns when did I say I didn’t?

[@jay_idk337]

This is why people call Americans dumb 😂

[@Mogas0311]

I own a Sig Virtus in the 16” barrel configuration. It’s really an amazing rifle with only one exception... the weight. It’s a little front heavy as well. It’s much better in the 11.5” pistol/SBR configuration. If I was going to get one, the 11.5 is what I would choose. The trigger, accuracy, quality, reliability, and recoil impulse are absolutely amazing. You won’t be disappointed.

[@davidjakiela9553]

An uzi comes to mind. It will fire the hot 9 mm +p+ or standard ammo. It can also be easily suppressed. Two litter soda bottle works in a pinch. Time may come that you will need to use your gun but not want neighbors to hear it. It fits under a field jacket so it makes a great weapon to carry when getting supplies or just moving about it public during SHF event.

[@tlwisner]

Maybe better: "I want something IN ADDITION TO an AR-15!"

[@Mrgunsngear]

Great info

[@citizenkane454]

Great info

[@ChemistyStudent]

My snide comment at the start is going to be: I'll be sad if the AR18 and AR14 aren't on this list.

[@wicka3851]

Beat me to it

[@eragonunderhill5545]

yeah but the ar18 is actually based on the ar15 so it shouldn't fit the criteria

[@bmstylee]

@@eragonunderhill5545 actually the ar18 is nothing like the ar15 other than the bolt face. No buffer tube. Short stroke piston. Completely different bgc.

[@eragonunderhill5545]

Wild Bill yeah but it basically has the same lower which is the actual firearm.

[@eragonunderhill5545]

Wild Bill also, it was based on the ar15, changed to be cheaper and not use the stoner patent but still based on it so it doesn’t meet the criteria

[@markshechter8473]

100% agree on the Bren 2 and the Sig Spear/Virtus. Theyre amazing! But you forgot the Best...The Robinson XCRL

[@jasonjackson6055]

I only came here to say that I love my ARX. It is easily one of my favorite rifles, and I have a bunch. I am a fanatic. It feels light and shoots so smooth. It's also extremely reliable. Also Mac, you're awesome, and I sure love the channel.

[@m4a375mm]

I still like my mini14 but than I trained on the M14.

[@abkolman474]

i like mine better than any ar

[@chrisblaine3210]

I love my mini 14...ironically I bought a arx100 chassis for it...I think is comfortable af and accurate ...

[@black87FXR]

Except the older ones lose accuracy as the barrel gets hot (I have one). Get the brace/strut for it.

[@m4a375mm]

@@black87FXR Yes I should get one

[@johnmagill9496]

Just try getting replacement parts for any of those.

[@HookLine48]

YUP

[@_boondock_9158]

Not that hard.

[@willfriar8054]

I love my mini. I fixed a few of the little defects. But my very early Mini-14 has been rugged since the beginning. It has never failed. It's a much better design bolt system. Much easier to clean if you know how you can break it down and 35 seconds. I had my wife time it just cuz I wanted to make sure.

[@calden74]

I personally like the FN F(S)2000, but that's just me. It also swivels lots of heads at the range, so that's cool. It also has what seems to be an infinite amount of attachments, bodies and upgrades for it. One of the first ones I suggest is a new trigger assembly.

[@slamshift6927]

Eh, I'd rather have an AR15 and the money for a decent optic and some ammo.

[@bombsaway6340]

The AR is reliable, accurate, adaptable, easy to find parts and accessories, and reasonably priced. Kind of hard to top, unless all you want is different.

[@GrayGhostDog1]

Luckily for us, we all don't think that way about everything... that would be dull and boring.

[@ViaIntake]

Why no bullpups? RDB would’ve been great for this list.

[@SA-xf1eb]

Exactly, RDB if ur on a budget. X95 if u have a little more budget.

[@stadce]

Tavor SAR is the bee’s knees

[@MiseryDuke69]

Have they fixed the reliability of the RDB? I remember hearing it was garbage back in the day.

[@SA-xf1eb]

From what I can tell they clear out the bad batch of firing pins that were not heat treated correctly and updated a couple of parts. The complaints seem lower and usually from someone that got an older inventory rifle.

[@lanceblinent7909]

@@MiseryDuke69 In otherwords it was just another Keltec Product.

[@AndrejSekula-j4h]

If you dont want AR15 then buy vz58 its much lighter than ak its accuare as AR reliable af cheap and it can be both 5.56 and 7.62 aftermarket exist for it also have bolt catch

[@ato5037]

That Beretta ARX100 has some interesting features about it, but I can't get over the fact that the barrel is even skinnier than the standard "birdcage" flash hider in front of it...

[@daddychill7776]

Can’t go wrong with Bren 2, Scar 16 or APC 223

[@wendellsawyer4386]

For few bucks more get the Scar 17

[@daddychill7776]

Wendell Sawyer APC 308 is better

[@patwest1815]

So he picks the most AR-15 like of the bunch.

[@black87FXR]

CZ is the winner

[@patwest1815]

@@black87FXR I went with a BRN-180 on top of a mini-14 I've had for many years.

[@ThEuNdYiNg1]

The sig mcx is a great gun, however entry level ars with free float rails literally cost 1/4th the price so it's pretty easy to see why someone would pick an AR instead. I do lust for that sig though 🤤

[@TROOPERfarcry]

I'd have thought that the astonishing amount of after-market support for the AR would've been enough to overcome whatever minor objections there are for an AR-15. But then again, maybe the people seeking to "buy-an-AR-that-isn't-called-an-AR" aren't opposed to the operating mechanism, but are against the label.... in which case, they may relatively new to guns, and not know about the selection of parts for a typical AR. I hypothesize -- without any proof -- that the people looking to buy a non-AR are trying to avoid future gun bans..... or to simply avoid owning an AR-15 because "they're-evil". Like I said, I have no proof, just a theory.

[@Medschoolsurvivor2022]

@@TROOPERfarcry To be completely honest I'm in the market for a non-AR15 style rifle simply because I enjoy being different. It's the same reason why I won't buy a regular Glock regardless of how good they are. Completely idiotic on my part I know but if I'm going to spend some major coin on something I want it to be absolutely unique.

[@vikingsoftpaw]

Back in the day you could get a WASR-3 for $425-ish....223 ak pattern. Henry make a .223 lever action in their Long Ranger line. Ruger scout rifles are mag fed and .223. Same goes for some Tikkas and CZ's. Remington made a pump action stanag police patrol rifle. South African R-1 was available in pump action.

[@larrysalinas4507]

It’s always good to have something other than an AR. I have an M1A but if I was going to get an alternative to an AR in 556 I would have to go with the Sig. great video

[@HilarityBribo]

This is gonna come off as a silly question, I'm new to the gun community. What do you guys generally do with the bullet casings, whenever you go shooting at the range or anywhere?

[@PHIllip324]

Leave them on the ground for the boomer fudd RSO to pick up OR in some cases (no pun intended) some guys will reload them.

[@peter-jm1pu]

Either leave it, take it home to reload or pick them up best of my abilities and toss them.

[@HilarityBribo]

@@PHIllip324 lol

[@sealandgi8724]

The FN FNC is amazing... if it didn’t cost an arm and a leg

[@dexm2010]

I've never had the privilege of owning one, but years ago when I had the funds to actually buy something like that, I was always swayed off by the fact that so many people would talk about firing pins breaking. Probably the pins that would break mostly were on FA guns, but I didn't want to chance it because it seems spare parts even 13-14 years ago could be hard to find. They definitely have a massive cool factor with the integral grenade launching sight.

[@jwc00789]

For myself it would be between the Bren 2 and Sig MCX, and probably would wind up with the Bren 2. Been wanting a Bren 2 Pistol in 7.62x39mm.

[@ThrashTillDeth85]

Boy has the MCX come a long way since it first came out, I had one of the first gen ones and while I liked it a lot I also didn't at the same time, but the Virtus has kinda changed my mind about it. I wish I could get one but they're just so expensive like you mentioned Tim. Also the other cool thing with it is Sig has a sort of AR 10 like version of the MCX in military trials currently in a new caliber, and they've said that win or lose it'll be available on the civilian market after the trials

[@chrisbohanon403]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I don't think it's ugly! It's similar to a scar as far as looks go!

[@tomjjackson21]

The Galil is the perfection.

[@jeronimomurruni]

Imagine falling in love with someone and suddenly she says: "I want something OTHER than an AR15!". Nightmareish

[@GatlinGunGreggy]

Absolute keeper

[@danielaramburo7648]

And she/he says “I prefer an ak.”

[@khaccanhle1930]

Yeah, I would not want someone who doesn't follow the herd like I do. A pox on anyone wanting something unique or different.

[@Jv-fn5xg]

THEY WILL NEVER SAY NO TO THEIR COUSIN. BUNCH OFCOUSIN LOVING HILLBILLIES.

[@daniellau5859]

Tbf theres a lot of cooler guns than the AR15 platform. Theyre all just too expensive lol and were too broke

[@quest4050]

So the rifle to have other than an AR-15 is an AR-15???!!!!???

[@bmstylee]

Unless you want to spend a lot of cash then yes. Although the mcx is more like the ar18.

[@jrogerss8616]

All the others can AR-15 just as well as the AR-15 at 2x to 4x the price.

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

All those are very similar. If you want a non-AR rifle, go to an AK platform or a rifle system like a SKS or even an M-14. THAT'S something different than an AR. And surplus SKS, M14 or M1 can be found and set up under a grand, usually.

[@brianfisher7486]

good episode... Love my arx100... Made it into a short barrel rifle with a low-power variable scope keep it in my backpack everywhere I go