Why the KF51 Panther MBT could be one impressive tank

[@jawedmanowar657]

Some people who were saying Tanks days are over...this Tank has broken all Grounds and shall be the Bench Mark for all Next Generation Tanks to come in future

[@Юрий-и2ж2в]

Привезите на Украину и посмотрим на что он способен в реальном бою, и сколько он поодержится

[@Apophis40K]

@@Юрий-и2ж2в good idea but it all ready beat the T14 by driving around without breaking.

[@wolflarsen1900]

@@Apophis40K its idiotic. We will have hundreds of that tanks until russia will be able to build even one combat ready t14 which is by the way eitherway a crap tank. They not even have finished that project and allready start to announce a competion modell for the panther xd did you hear about that

[@reductio1000]

Manned tanks ? yes, mostly obsolete. The development in armour penetrating (even hand carried) guided missiles has been so impressive. a tank costs a lot of $, ATGM a fraction. you can learn a soldier to fire a ATGM in a matter of days/week, you need many months/year to train a tank crew.

[@Apophis40K]

@@reductio1000 that's why the Kf51 relies mostly on active hard kill protection. Its not only rockets that has evolved.

[@terrestrialextra4790]

I-I-It's... -wipes tear- It's BEAUTIFUL!!

[@yitubesamding4745]

If the germans are the one building it probably gonna be badass😂

[@dotabuff5288]

GERMANS STILL HAVE A DESEASE OF GIGANTISM, THE BIGGER-THE BETTER, REMEMBER HOW HITLER WAS WANKING ON MAUS TANK

[@highqualityorangejuice420]

yeah that is when they manage to get it to work properly 10 years after its release

[@samuelsamenstrang6069]

@@highqualityorangejuice420 every weapon system needs time to work porperly,

[@MrDredd1966]

Anything with the panther name has definitely got my attention...😳😲😍

[@noisyboy87]

No one does heavy armour better than ‘Zee Germans’ (and I’m a British tank commander😉)

[@boo-misc4973]

About time that our 2 countries fighting side by side with upmost respect for each other instead of fighting against each other.

[@greenmagic8ball198]

Were you the one who leaked classified information because war thunder? Lmao

[@reinoldi1097]

sadly we will not see this tank in the german army :-/

[@joergfro7149]

as a german , my favorite tank Centurion .....

[@joergfro7149]

@@reinoldi1097 We will !!!

[@doktorlabuse6831]

I love how they cared about brick model manufacturers right from the start.

[@mikespooky7497]

😂

[@0nlySSSolo]

I’m in love😭😍😍😍

[@limpunsing2229]

Indeed impressive

[@Peter-vl9fz]

Super cool but I hope they thought about drone protection

[@samuelsamenstrang6069]

Badass tank!!!!

[@randomdude8877]

I wonder when Rheinmetall is building the first battlemech.

[@Deadhessian]

tank with bigger gun than the others, the natter system seems awesome, bigger coaxial mg than the older tanks is good too, and then this tank can launch 4 hero loitering munitons and 2 rec drones......seems all very good but i fear the 51 means its ready 2051....

[@idabthereforeiam7479]

Cool tank but whats with the Minecraft creeper skin camo tho?

[@Non-dual-mind1]

It's also got OATS. Overuse of Abbreviation Technology Systems

[@vBDKv]

All those stickers made me lol a lot

[@hazystorm.]

Is this gonna be modern panzer!?

[@KingSpittusFactus]

You mean like the Abrams? Panzer literally means tank

[@hazystorm.]

@@KingSpittusFactus sorry i mean the tiger panzer XD

[@davidfeiler2265]

Go play a video game

[@ShellCastrol]

Germans the best of the world!

[@samuelsamenstrang6069]

as far as i know the ukraine ordered these tanks. good.

[@redherring6154]

They’ll never pay off that order

[@jethromorquecho517]

T-14 Armata 🇷🇺

[@namelesswarrior4760]

yes send them to Ukraine so it can get blown up

[@tsuaririndoku]

It’s Ironic that they use Panther on a Tank again. So technically this is a Panther II. Panther: Son. Panther Kf51: Yes Grandpa? Panther: I am proud of you

[@MK-ig4vy]

More like Panther III

[@schnelma605]

0:52 I believe that is a lynx 120. Obviously there are certain similarities since both vehicle are from the same company. I understand that there are currently too few pictures of the new tank. Thanks for the video

[@alexincobra7379]

I think it will be most advanced tank but I doubt it would make it to the battlefield because it would be too expensive to export and Germany has not been on anyone's battlefield for a long time

[@aleksandrprodeus9383]

@@alexincobra7379 Today there is a great opportunity to visit the battlefield. And experimentally find out what the new technology is capable of. Ukraine can gratefully help implement these plans 😎

[@alexincobra7379]

@@aleksandrprodeus9383 Sir, I am a 13 year Army combat veteran. It takes years to get trained on new type vehicles. The war would be lost way before anyone could actually use these. Also you risk some of them falling into Russian hands and being reversed engineered to exploit weaknesses and to help them better their own platform. You don't just hand over equipment and that would change a war, no. Some US Javeline missile have already fell into Russian hands. All the stupid decisions made by European leaders and US leaders a bringing us to a recession. The governments won't have the extra cash to pay for expensive state of the art platforms, all because they rather blindly throw money at a corrupt Ukraine and have nothing to show for it. What has the money gained? The still losing key cities in the eastern region.

[@aleksandrprodeus9383]

@@alexincobra7379 Sir, don't exaggerate. Long-term training is justified when a specialist is trained from scratch. The retraining of ready-made specialists for new equipment takes several months, if not several weeks. Any technique captured as a trophy is worth nothing without the production technology. Even with advanced reverse engineering, the creation of new samples based on trophies can take decades in the modern realities of the Russian Federation. Money. Money is very good. It helps keep the economy going and helps the civilian population. But you can't buy weapons with money when they refuse to supply them. And what they agree to supply is in insufficient quantities for serious changes on the battlefield. This is the main reason for some retreats.

[@alexincobra7379]

@@aleksandrprodeus9383 This is what don't understand about combat. To train vehicles you have to train in proficiency and efficiency. The Ukrainian forces are use to Soviet made vehicles which are less technical and designed differently. Just giving vehicles to soldiers who at good some other type of vehicles that are designed the opposite of NATO will just prolong the fight with same result. We handed all kinds of new vehicles in Iraq and give M1A1's and M1A2's to Suadi Arabia to help in Yemeni War. Iraqi army lost a large portion of the vehicle we gave them to ISIS. Saudi Arabia were losing M1 Abrams tanks in battle due to poor tactics and inadequate crew training. The same would happen in Ukraine with sophisticated new tech tank that is more advanced than anything out. Money thrown to a problem never fixes it. The US wasted trillions of dollars in Iraq trying to help build infrastructure and train local officials to take care of area. Instead money was funneled to corrupt officials that pocketed the money and some left the country with millions of dollars unaccounted for.

[@mausypanzer5142]

The Great successor of the panther from world war 2

[@the5gen]

German armor always impressed. Our Abrams need to transition to the 130mm smooth-bore in the next SEP revision.

[@Some_Random_Asshole]

Abrams would need a completely new turret to mount L51 130mm or even L55 120mm. When the US upgraded abrams to the L44 120mm they changed the stabilisation systems in it from the original hydraulic system to a simpler and cheaper spring system which resulted in the M256a1 120mm gun seen on Abrams ever since. Because of this the M256a1 has a different centre of gravity to the L44 so they can’t mount L55 or L51 without changing the turret completely. Would be a huge upgrade program which would result in M1a3 rather than be included in M1a2 SEPV4 which apparently is already in the works.

[@raka522]

@@Some_Random_Asshole Good answer, I was about to write that too ;-)

[@johnmartin6420]

The correspondent ammo capacity ia down to 31 rounds (20 ready+11 reserve). The K51 is the Leapard 2A7 with a new turret, with a new generation F/C, gun and defensive system. Hmmm sounds alot like the M1A2 SEP version 4 (SEPv4), minus the 130mm gun. The Army does not see a nees for a gun larger then 120mm, due to their investment in the XM360 CAP, that matches the the kinetic energy of the 140mm XM291 ATAC gun and keeps the current ammo capacity in the present turret. If the Army ever pulls the trigger on drive train upgrades for the M1, there is the new Cummings ACE multifuel engine, Allison 5250 MX transmission, in-arm hydropneumatic suspension and auto track tensioner. The Army has tested a new larger turret on the CAT test bed, if big Army feels the need to go bigger, there are 130 and 140mm versions of the XM360 CAP gun can sustain guns up to 140mm. So we will know what direction the Army goes, when prototypes of the Decisive Lethality Platform (DLP), the M1 replacement are shown later this decade.

[@wolflarsen1900]

sadly america just cant build tanks.. it not even has a new version of the m109. They never were able to delvelop something better, while we since 20 years have the pzh2000. give it up, Just stay at your aircraft and aircraft carrier and buy your tanks from us. by the way thanks for buying 4000 lynx tanks.(its not officially yet but which other vehicle could be a competion for our lynx)

[@johnmartin6420]

@@wolflarsen1900 I gues you overlooked the XM2001 Crusader. Originally it was a 60 ton vehicle with 2-30 rounds in the auto loader. The production proof of concept, was reduced to 43 tons with 2-25 rounds in the auto loader. Both 3 man crew, 12 rpm fire rate, hydropneumatic suspension. Now the Crusader was canned by that Idiot Donald Rumsfeld, becouse he considered not to be mobile enough. The Crusader was replaced by the XM1203 Non-Line-of-Sight Cannon (NLOS-C), 2-man crew, 27 tons, 155mm/38 gun with 30,000 meter range with standard ammo, rate of fire 10rpm with 24 ready to fire rounds. But this system part of the FCS was canned by Gates In 2009. So the Army came up with the The M109A7 that shares common chassis components with the Bradley Fighting Vehicle (BFV) such as the engine, transmission, and tracks. This creates commonality with other systems and maximizes cost-savings in production, parts inventory, and maintenance personnel. The M109A7's uses technologies originally developed for the XM1203 Non-Line-of-Sight Cannon, such as the turret electric drive system, automatic rammer and FCS. It features a 600-volt onboard power system to accommodate additional armor and future networking technologies as they become ready. The M109A7 weights in at 70,000 lb (35,000 kg) with growth capacity to 110,000 lb (50,000 kg). This leads to the M1299, new ERCA 155 mm L/58 XM907 gun, 10 rpm, ready 23 rnds in the auto loader, 39 on board rounds, 4-man crew. The M1299A1 or A2 will switch to the common chassis with the OMFV chassis, and this is likely to be the Griffin lll, that will allow weight growth to 55 tons.

[@ri_drz]

This is god-tier

[@rael5469]

The US should buy these from the Germans.......manufactured in the US under license.

[@davidfeiler2265]

Abrams x

[@JI_JOE]

Okay, but will it survive an Oppressor Mk2?

[@Some_Random_Asshole]

Don’t be stupid, ofcoarse not.

[@khanhonam7196]

the beast is here

[@runandgun4950]

The Panther was even 1941 one of the best😉😘

[@MeisjeAndMe]

Leopard succesor has arrived.😉🙂🙂

[@J_X999]

I just wanted to ask, did Germany always dominate tank technology? I want to know whether Germany dominated tanks in WW2? Or was it the USSR and Western allies?

[@cedriceric9730]

It innovated effective tank tactics which to some degree included effective tank design. France and USSR had better engineered tanks but didn't employ them effectively. Germans just had a knack of hitting a certain sweet spot between tech and tactics which proved to be a nightmare! They are not the king of tanks but they are horrifying opponents, they make a mean machine

[@dontanton7775]

Germany was technology leader throughout the first half of the last century, also a major scientific hub. Papers published in science often were in german language, and german was close to becoming the no.1 science language. Add that to a highly developed civic infrastructure, education system and engineering tradition (industrialization) germany was set up to be in a good spot for a strong industrial performance in a war that required good mobility, equipment and tactics. However, after WW2 germany was in ruins and the military sector nowadays is rather small compared to those times back then.

[@obinator9065]

Germany had the best tanks towards the end of the war. Tiger I and Tiger II, they dominated battlegrounds with Shermans and had better engines and better armor than Russian tanks, the "problem" was over-engineering and lack of resources, this lead to low production output. Compare that to Russia yeeting thousands of T-34 at Germany. German aviation was the most advanced as well, I.e first military jet Messerschmitt Me 262, V-2 was the first rocket to go into space.. Allies took a lot of knowledge from German aviation, the US put a lot of effort into getting a hold of the Horten Ho 229, a stealth bomber, such that the Russians wouldn't get it. IIRC it even had influence on the F-117. We are very lucky that Germany lacked natural resources.

[@rocketchicken5421]

Ahahahaha, what utter bullshit. Yeah of course you forgot T-34-85, IS1 and IS2. Way to go buddy. Shermans, better armor, YEAH.

[@rocketchicken5421]

P.S. The technical details of what you named are publically available. Your so-called patriotism can't get over facts :)

[@phile4s]

god tank entered the chat

[@SlappyTheElf]

Even if it never makes it to production there are a lot of ideas there that will almost certainly be used.

[@samuelsamenstrang6069]

right

[@markjmaxwell9819]

I love this update l hope it still has the Auxiliary Power Unit integrated into the tank . It also looks like a new turrent is fitted that combined with a new 130mm gun and fully automatic electric rotating dual drum auto-loader should let the new gun punch through all known armour. Airburst capability is a great feature as it means only two or three types of ammunition should be needed . The through life maintenance costs should also be the lowest in it's class . I would say the auto-loader would be very similar to the Leclerc system but with twin rotating drums instead of the Leclerc system . Both ammunition drums rotate in both directions and move from side to side in tandem so a single pusher mechanism can be used . Keeping the GVW around the 60 metric tonne mark so a similar weight to the current leopard 2A7 would mean it will be compatible with all the current equipment in service. Hard kill active protection systems can be fitted if they keep the weight at a reasonable level . I hope the RWS works as good as it looks . 😎

[@pedromiguelalmeida4446]

the new beast of mbt. great job

[@theovansteijn1135]

The Panther II. The latest update of one of the best tanks in WO2. Top predator.

[@patrickwinter7831]

Panther III, there was a Panther II in WW2 allready

[@geldoncupi1]

No need think for a sec that this is the best of the best.. I would like also a review for the other best light tank, “Lynx 120”, pls!

[@lawyers9]

Depends on its survivability in combat. Looks devastating on paper though!

[@Mike-iv3hy]

Yes , New Panzer F51, is the Best MBT in the world today . If it remains the best MBT depenpeds on weather the Chinese are able to Duplicate it or not , but for sure , they will try . The Chinese are not capable of inventing anything on thier own . So they steal it from everyone else. DML

[@raka522]

The time that elapses when something new comes onto the market, the Chinese copy it and then sell it themselves, is in turn the time they lack to further develop and improve the product. The Chinese are always years behind in development ;-)

[@antoalghozi311]

Zelensky: Thank you...Send to Ukraine, please 😂😂 Yasalam

[@billwhoever2830]

Not even leopard 2a4s can be sent in Ukraine. Apparently infrastructure like roads and bridges, self propelled deployable bridges and floating bridges in Ukraine cannot take the weight. The video seems to say that an almost 60ton vehicle is lightweight. Soviet equipment operated in Ukraine has a mass limit of 40 tons, this includes mbts. Bridges were constructed with this standard mass limit.

[@ВладимирОкоренко]

Супер танк мира 😃😎😍🤩😄

[@burgitech8643]

Its going to sell very well. Not because of its combat capabilities (propably bit better than Leopard 2), but because it looks awesome. They should have called it Leopard 3, since one can see, what family it belongs to.

[@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547]

There is a leopard 3 program in the works in German French cooperation so the name is taken

[@ThePRCommander]

Denmark has to buy a battalion of these. Unless, that is, another producer comes up with an even better concept. Also, cannot wait for this tank to appear in Warthunder. Loitering munition in collaboration with gun delivered munition is gong to be fun. You can literally combat several opponents now, simultaneously. However, an MBT like this, will also create a greater demand on crew training and educational level.

[@wudruffwildcard252]

Denmark already has the best tank in the world, and you already want to upgrade? 🤔

[@ThePRCommander]

@@wudruffwildcard252 The Kf51 is a whole new tier. It's a revolution. This tank has a self-defense-mechanism, against anti-tank missiles. It also carries four Hero drones and then it has its 130 smooth barrel gun. So in theory it is capable to engage a minimum of six hard targets, at the same time. Then we got the machine guns, they can in theory engage two soft targets as well. The Panther Kf51 in the best of best situations, can engage 8 targets simultaneously. In other words, it has changed everything. Anything in stock, not capable of engaging 8 targets, is already out-dated; meaning your whole land component.

[@Delta2414]

@@ThePRCommander how would this tank work in War Thunder though? The Panther is a brand-new, next-gen tank. It would probably be ridiculously op without other new, next-gen tanks to go up against.

[@ThePRCommander]

@@Delta2414 Or it would be the first real "rambo" tank, always having to fight on teams with max four players, against teams, four-five times larger?

[@shivampaliwal8162]

How are you going to fight? North to Sweden or South towards Germany?

[@KingZE-V88]

This is a crazy powerful,reliable tank for a modern army I would Highly suggest world nations to purchase it

[@davidfeiler2265]

Your id pic says it all

[@social.media.command]

Thank you for your report.

[@JOYBG]

Russian Armata has a 152 mm gun and is lightweight... Sorry Germans, you lose AGAIN ;)

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

modern tanks like the KF51 Panther (STANAG 4569 4A+/4B MRAP protected) main battle tank & Leopard 2 A6 could seriously do without the co-axial gun in the frontal centre section of the turret adjacent to the 130 MM main gun . . . besides fixed co-axial guns always had limited field of fire & all the more limited freedom of movement, therefore swift & fast retaliation against an active enemy is out of the question . . . a turret top mounted 25 MM GAU-12/U six-barrel rotary gun or a 13.5 MM HMG on a 360° deg rotating RWS is a much more effective piece of kit . . .

[@dontanton7775]

This Panther can be equipped with the Natter RCWS (2:54 in the video) which is basically what you are talking about. RCWS: Remote Controlled Weapon System, 360 degree FOV, thermal imageing etc.

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

@@dontanton7775 good observation, if the Natter RCWS can be fitted with a 12.7 MM HMG instead of the fixed co-axial gun then nothing like it . . .

[@deltanebula8290]

i feel very safe knowing this tank is in existance and how much it will be able to counter chinese expantion of deployed and manufactured on a large scale.

[@reductio1000]

probably going to be one panther for every dozen or even more chinese tanks. i do not feel so much safer.

[@janekmundt579]

@@reductio1000 your right. Quantity beats quality in tank warfare.

[@HarvLiz]

Big backside. Another tank that can't shoot backwards. I'm not an expert, I just play one on Warthunder. :)

[@hanzchii9245]

The return of the panthers

[@notsureyou]

Anyone else humming a certain tune????

[@deanburn3400]

The Leopard 2 I feel though has a slight edge. Having said that it seems that the KF51 is a very good armoured vehicle....

[@nasha5292]

Russia is already using unmanmed tanks, they need to up their tech, the drones are very efficient on destroying ground vehicles, leo2,m777 and anti air defense assets are being knocked out on the battlefield.

[@flapflapflapflap]

Panther (1944): who are you? Panther (2022): im you, but stronger

[@gazelam1973]

What's up with this channels English grammar? Does know one who works for this channel have enough expertise in the English language to edit the video so that the English makes more sense? 🤔

[@dnate697]

It is pronounce Rheine that sounds like Nine! NOT rainmetal LOL! Please stop;)

[@artemshevtsov6062]

German armour; cause no country has ever said: I’d like to purchase a Chinese tank please

[@OldFarmerJoe1]

So the german panthers are coming back to the battlefield after 80 years?

[@tyranasazi3818]

Instead of Panther this tank should be named "The Acronym"

[@hansdietrich1496]

Wann sehe ich eine Bestellung der Bundeswehr über 1000 Einheiten?

[@rael5469]

5:35 does that reveal the thickness of the armor plate?

[@nabilzuhair192]

When your grandpa can't do much in WW2 and your try to uphold your family lineage prestige be like;

[@nabilzuhair192]

@Gorilla I meant Panther Panzer in WW2

[@CEOmagi]

German tanks are always best in terms of armor since ww2 (and this is coming from a commander of markava)

[@crocobaur5407]

give me a 10.000$ drone any day of the week

[@jayyoo906]

Why don't they test this marvel in Ukraine front? Thereafter they may know what to add more. No cure no pay.

[@leedex]

Looks like a Minecraft tank.

[@gersonjimenez5737]

Jesus, this thing is sexy and terrifying. Looks like something out of HALO

[@Blobby192]

its not the tank that wins wars its the men who operate it, you wont see tanks like this on the battlefield for a long time

[@valentindevoile8091]

Geniuses are dangerous if...

[@3PostmanPat]

That’s the sexiest tank ever

[@Amaking10000]

Is this tank electric?

[@rael5469]

A smarter camo for the tank would make it appear as a VW Beetle.

[@guardian-X]

They should sent a few of them to support Ukraine

[@obi3107]

this is a prototype..

[@jeanfrancoisakadie3974]

100.0@@@@

[@dulio12385]

You gotta wonder how the Americans will react. They'd probably just buy all the extras sans the autoloader and try to stick it on the Abrams.

[@davidfeiler2265]

Abrams x

[@ondrejkviz9653]

cant wait to see this in War Thunder with Armata etc.

[@ColbyMoonwalker]

Chinese already reverse engineer. Cheaper and more efficient manufacturer. 🇨🇳🇨🇳

[@ColbyMoonwalker]

@Stefan Jager that’s a pretty blatant admission of ignorance

[@ColbyMoonwalker]

@Stefan Jager eh but your flag is a rainbow

[@ColbyMoonwalker]

@Stefan Jager Or else you’d be doing better things like programming robots

[@Jannis368]

The tank on your thumbnail is a Lynx 120

[@petersanderson8307]

Thanks!

[@pp-bb6jj]

What is the projected cost of one unit?

[@小牛-o5f]

Still waiting for the Tiger 2.

[@vgotnofingers]

What's the benefit of having a bigger caliber when the main munition is a sabot? Wouldn't it be a better move to stay on 120mm and have a bigger shell behind? The penetrators already exist.

[@jonny2954]

A larger sabot area allows to transfer more energy to the shot at a lower pressure (or more energy at the same pressure). Also the 130 mm projectile is significantly longer than a 120 mm projectile so the penetrators can be longer.

[@vgotnofingers]

@@jonny2954 Thanks, this actually makes sense.

[@fpsakmal8603]

javelin missile still can penetrate this

[@warelite5368]

why is it painted like that tho?

[@mav12345341]

Where can i book a test drive?

[@commandergumballwatterson733]

I liked to call it: Panther III

[@dvls442]

Lets wait till it'll at least exist.

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

Please cover the Abrams X

[@thokim84]

How many tanks does Germany have? Not enough to make a difference in a situation where they would be necessary.

[@tiagomonteiro130]

No shit that tank is completely new it just came out what did you expect that in the first day they already have 500 of them also It's not completely finished just like the lynx it will have many new changes

[@davidfeiler2265]

And no battle experience

[@kevineleven5610]

NMA need more acronyms .

[@Swagway177]

CALL OF DUTY TANKS

[@jaimeg9700]

jaime G a tank with rail Gun

[@HeyGuy4321]

BLITZKRIEG 2035!

[@rohinxo2870]

Thx

[@Flying_Tiger_enthusiast]

0:50 to 1:12 you call it Panther (KF51), but is is not Panther, it is a Lynx KF41 with an 120 mm cannon turret.

[@norbertderiro9458]

it is 130 mm

[@viceralman8450]

All wrong amazing. 🤦‍♂️

[@KSmithwick1989]

@@norbertderiro9458 That's a 120 mm L/44. You can easily notice the size difference from the longer 130 mm L/51.

[@norbertderiro9458]

@@KSmithwick1989 I was referring to the panther kf51. I didn't know that the lynx is also shown in the video...

[@rohinxo2870]

Wahnsinn... Gott sei Dank!!!

[@kaedenthepigeon2186]

A tank with headlights? Wow

[@night7185]

most tanks have headlights

[@brazy702seang6]

Those Germans and their tanks always made good ones but complicated if you know buy a bmw great cars when it goes to shit it's a bitch to fix

[@bryanmchugh1307]

It already is the most advanced MBT. It can move very well. It has a crushing 130mm cannon. It seems to be ready to go RIGHT NOW.

[@Commander_35]

Correct me if I'm wrong, the reason why they used the 130mm gun is because it has better velocity than the 120mm.

[@raka522]

It has a longer range and 50% more penetration than the 120mm cannon. The grenades are also about 30% larger and heavier, which is why the Panther also has an autoloader because they are too heavy for a soldier to reload. The autoloader in the Panther can also unload the cannon when changing ammo type.