Mill Accessories you Can Make !!

This mixed bag video shows some of my favorite accessories for my manual mill. I'll also share some soft jaw thoughts and expanded large plate clamping setups. There are a lot of good topics here. Its Worth a Look !!
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[@paulskvorc7021]

In my life I have had the opportunity to meet a few people that genuinely knew what they were talking about, AND were willing and skilled enough to PLEASANTLY share their knowledge. (Damned rare in my experience in the engineering and machining world.) In 70 years, there weren't many, but a few. You are among those few.

[@joepie221]

Thank you Sir. I take that as a very high compliment.

[@chrisgoff5271]

@@joepie221 like what he said spot on your a good egg well done

[@TomokosEnterprize]

I was taught at a VERY long time in my youth to take the slack out of everything, no matter what or where you are doing ANYTHING. Gramps at the forge, Dad at the bench, My mentot Tony when in machinist school. as if I don't I will FAIL and fail MISERABLY embarasing myself in front of my peers. We all know how that feels. I have ALWAYS been immpressed with the condition of EVERYTHING in your shop. It shows the great care youplace on everything coming and going through the space you live in. Why live ? you spend more time there than any where else in your world. LOL, Soft Jaws, I am still using rawhide I make at home for my needs it works better than anythhing else I have ever tried. To each his own I suppose. Great to find you here today teach. I/we are all the better for you. Onward fella !

[@quiettime6871]

I always say, anybody can turn dials and throw levers, but the measure of a true machinist is in setups. Joe Pie, you always show me something I havent thought of. Thanks for helping me be a better machinist

[@NORTHBROOK1978]

If it can't run parts consistently for the operator.. it's not setup..the operator is..

[@joepie221]

Thank you.

[@ManicSalamander]

I machine fixturing, proof of concept, special hand tools, and prototypes as part of my job. I noticed a few years ago that machining is the only practice I know where the power of the tool is mostly limited by the power of the user's imagination. This is driven by the dance between one's ideas, and the little tools one makes to realize them. Videos like this, showing elegant and easy additions, are truly a leg up. I had never considered how easy some stops would be to execute, or how else to use a vise besides just clamping stuff in it. Thank you!

[@kgee2111]

I never thought about attaching the jaws to the outside of the vise slide. I wondered why the holes were there! Thanks Joe!

[@horseshoe_nc]

When the jaws are mounted outboard, is typically when we flip them over, to give more height.

[@ranjah76]

Dont feel bad, I slapped myself on the forehead as well. Ha ha

[@canukky]

After 8 years of watching KZbin, this is my first time I have been inspired to comment. This video is pure gold, Joe. This is invaluable. Keep it up!

[@joepie221]

I'm honored to have inspired you. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@haldennis4302]

Even though I'm 74, I'm still learning new handy stuff from you Joe. Thanks!

[@jameslezak7882]

Love the kurt vise. I fished a 3600 out of the dumpster at work. I guess they figured the downtime to overhaul it was more expensive than replacement. Good for me!. $48 later to overhaul it, works like new! Great stuff as always, Joe! The tips are priceless, to newbies and old farts like me that have seen plenty and forgotten even more...

[@andyZ3500s]

It's hard to believe some of the things that end up in the dumpster. You would think that large companies would set these items aside and ask if anyone wants them.

[@jameslezak8179]

@@andyZ3500s It just goes to show where the employee ranks in the screen of things. Even tried to buy some of the drop and inventory discard but it was priced way out of line. Ha! But give them your ideas and time savers for free. Imagine that!

[@andyZ3500s]

@@jameslezak8179 the wastefulness is what blows me away. I've always worked for small companies which for the most part they have been good to me.

[@joepie221]

@@andyZ3500s You should see the dumpsters at Dell corp in Round Rock Texas on trash day.

[@somebodyelse6673]

@@joepie221 - Are they even visible through the crowd of dumpster divers around them? :-)

[@toolbox-gua]

Oh yes, Joe’s shop can be used as an OR or an ICU. And a person who shares his secrets (and for that not secrets) has his heaven spot reserved. Joe’s ideas and explanations serve is for more than just shop life. God bless you.

[@joepie221]

Thanks for the comment. I really hope these videos do help.

[@Ferndalien]

Thank you Joe! I think I now know what a couple of pieces of aluminum rattling around in a drawer in the shop I inherited from my dad are for. They look remarkably like your shop-made vise stop. This is the second time you have, purely by happenstance, helped solved a mystery around something I inherited from my father.

[@shirothehero0609]

Joe, I love that you keep your setups clean. I hate watching videos with 10" of chips on the floor, oil, coolant everywhere. Love your shop. Thx for the vid!

[@joepie221]

Thanks. Machine shops don't have to be filthy. But it can happen pretty quick.

[@johnjenkins2315]

Some great little projects there Joe. Yes and we hope that you are staying safe as well. We here in NZ are moving down from level 3 to a level 2 as of midnight tonight our time. Starting to get back to some form of normality.

[@vmc7505]

A big improvement I found for those edge tech Stops is to add a Belleville washer at the locking screws so you can add some friction while moving the stop into place.

[@ChrisMower]

I have a mini-mill but even so I always learn something I can use. Thanks Joe and stay safe.

[@mabmachine]

More great stuff in this video. Really great lessons for both the novice and professional that may not be working in a shop with veteran machinists to learn these tricks from. Thank you!

[@markkrick1508]

As always... very informative, no nonsense easy to make when you need it. Thanks Joe!

[@sierraspecialtyauto7049]

Great info. UNLOOSEN!!!...you're going to break the internet.

[@briangoulding2855]

ha ha ha but I do like Joes style of vid

[@joepie221]

One of my favorite words.

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Thanks joe! Love the vice super expansion. Thanks for sharing

[@wilsont6651]

Joe, I want to thank you for this video. As an amateur machinist, I had never used a stop for my vise. After watching this video (shortly after it came out), I made a stop a stop out of pieces of material that I had laying in my scrap bin. I was making a part on the mill last weekend and decided to set up the stop. It was amazing to me how much time it saved me. The part had 2 sets of holes that were at right angles to each other. I was able to reference the end of the work, move in the distance that I needed to put the hole, drill the hole, flip the part end for end, move to the new distance, and drill the remaining hole. No need to re-reference the end of the part. Then I turned the piece 90 degrees, re- centered it, and repeated the process for the other 2 holes. It made it quick and easy. Thanks for the impetus to make and use this tool.

[@joepie221]

Thanks for the feedback. Having one of these should be a standard if you have a vise.

[@TomokosEnterprize]

After years now I find you over here in the Social spot. Why ? I have no flipping idea but will now continue to have a look every once in a while. It's always a great day when I get a chance to stop by my southern friend !

[@joepie221]

Greetings Dean. Always good to see a message from you. Stay well bud.

[@DrGreen-wl2ry]

Awesome idea with the pipe extensions in the vise!! I’m going to make that setup!

[@christurley391]

Nice bunch of shop helpers Joe. Thanks for the video.

[@theonlybuzz1969]

Thanks Joe, I got a lot of ideas from your video, literally opened up a whole new aspect of securing and using a different type of stop where I can get more accurate repeatability, thanks Joe for all your wonderful videos ". Thank you 🙏

[@joepie221]

Thank you very much.

[@2lefThumbs]

Love the quill stops👍👍

[@robwatkins4356]

Thanks Joe. Great food for thought. I really think your tips and setup tricks are great.

[@samuelvaughan5972]

When setting a rod type end stop have a bull nosed end to push part against and set the stop in the centre of the part in both directions as near as possible. This will eliminate any error due to the part being slightly out of square and will give accurate positioning even on saw cut ends.

[@joepie221]

This is a good suggestion.

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Every episode a school day, been production engineering 45 years now retiring, totally convinced me I need a mill at home, why stop now lol!

[@joepie221]

Only a mill.....?

[@slartybartfarst9737]

@@joepie221 Ive got the lathe, drill press, compressor, sandblaster, 10 ton press, linisher, off hand grinder, Mig, Tig, Oxy, ......Joe feeling left out I need the full set LOL.

[@MrBanzoid]

Great handy projects, thanks Joe. Keep safe and well in these strange times.

[@MrRctintin]

Another fantastic tips and tricks vid Joe. Thanks so much for taking your time to show us these things. Very helpful for us guys who are hobby machinist, not full time guys.

[@joepie221]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Great tips, thanks Joe 👍🏼

[@cardoctordenny]

Thanks Joe for the quick response. You answered my question. I am not a seasoned machinist having spent my career of 45 years in the automotive repair world. But always had a hf mill in the shop and a jet lathe doing nothing more with them but making shims or specialty washers to get the job done.. hopefully that will change soon and I will be able to learn more about this amazing world you live in!

[@joepie221]

Endless possibilities.

[@MattThie1]

I make my soft jaws the same height or slightly lower than the fixed block and jaw blocks. Then I can leave the taller jaws mounted on the outside ends of the vise. It is always ready for longer parts and I do not have to change the jaws. Great video.

[@joepie221]

That's a great idea!

[@KillItandGrillIt]

Thanks great video. I'm been self learning because I inherited my fathers Lathe and vertical mill and you channel has been one of my favorites.

[@jasonh3109]

THAT’S what the little piece is on my 688!!! Woo hoo!! Thanks Joe!

[@wilsont6651]

Lots of great info in this video. Made me think about setups that I have used that would have benefited from having watched this video. Thanks for sharing.

[@jimmodesto721]

Enjoy all your videos, although many of them are beyond my capabilities, they help me think of ways to work through my personal projects. If possible could you do some mill and lathe projects without the use of DRO.

[@tonycstech]

Thank you. You gave me some ideas with the soft jaws.

[@tomsmith3045]

I love the explanations of the simple tools that make work easier. Stops I've used. but never thought of taking the slack out of a quill like that. Thanks!

[@jcs6347]

Hi Joe, I never thought about expanding the vise like you have in the big plate kit, wow! Thanks for sharing!

[@delstone1919]

Hi Joe, another excellent thought provoking video, well done and many thanks.

[@martineastburn3679]

Nice - I have a 688 and knew of the stop - but forgot after maybe 20 years. Thanks again - nice inputs.

[@TheWrate]

Thanks Joe, the rear mounted stop is a great idea, likewise the soft jaws. Stay well!

[@johnstrange6799]

It's always rewarding to make tooling and accessories. Thanks :)

[@billdlv]

Those are some good tips, especially the vise soft jaws and quill stop.

[@gyromike1966]

Great video Joe. Looks like I have another couple of projects to get busy on. The lathe height standard I made from your video is my favorite so far. Quick and easy to use.

[@tomthumb3085]

Thanks again Joe. Some more incredibly useful tips to extend the versatility of your milling machine. My favourite type of video.

[@willydoitbettydont9100]

Drill and tap those SHCS holding the hard jaws on. Then make you a set of socket head shoulder bolts that will fit your soft jaws and screw into the vise SHCS you drilled and tapped. Now you can install the soft jaws inside the hard jaws to save time swapping jaws if you don't need the full travel of the vise for whatever you are doing.

[@kenfcrafts]

Thanks for the tips, really like that threaded-clamp quill stop.

[@joepie221]

Thats a handy little device.

[@craigtate5930]

The mill is by far my favorite machine to use. I am slowly but surely building accessories to make life with the mill much easier. In fact I even mentioned your input on 1 of my videos earlier today. I cant began to express how much I have learned from you and mr pete. Always click on your videos as soon as they pop up. Many thanks for all the knowledge you have shared over the years. Even you 750 vid ;-)

[@jasonjoens279]

Great ideas, Joe. If I keep this up, I'm gonna need a bigger shop for all the extra tools I'm making!

[@alexvonbosse5090]

Hello Joe, Thank you very much for your many valuable videos! I may not always comment on them, but believe me, I look forward to each and every one of them because they are so informative and I learn something new from all of them. I would love to meet you in person but the distance between our locations does not allow for this. So your videos are the next best option and believe me, I cherish every one of them! Thanks again and keep up the great work!

[@PaulyD0859]

When I use any tool that could be forgotten, like the 2 tools you've shown on the quill, I put a "Hey Dummy" flag on them. You can get vinyl electrical tape in bright colors and a flag a couple of inches long will usually catch your attention even out of your peripheral vision. Makes pretty bandaids, too.

[@ibiufos]

G'day Joe I hope you do a video on the milling up movement adjustable claw would be good thanks Dean from Australia stay safe.

[@rickbradley5085]

I learn something every time I watch Joe and I thank him for taking the time to teach.

[@ranjah76]

That second one, the spring loaded clamp for spot drilling is awesome!

[@joepie221]

It saves a lot of effort.

[@markfulmer8501]

Hi Joe- lot's of good hints . It's interesting to see how we use the same stops but sometimes in different ways we never thought about. Thanks

[@mancelprince7426]

Another very useful video. The oversized part attachment with the threaded rods, pipe and 2 123 blocks is so simple that it is genius.

[@joepie221]

Thanks. I suppose you could remove the vises and strap it down, but this is very quick to setup and breakdown. Accurate too.

[@mancelprince7426]

@@joepie221 In the past, I have removed my vise and clamped my oversized parts down to the table. Considering time --- Clamping and rotating a part 2 times in order to complete it would be about the time it would take to make your attachment. No brainer, make the attachment.

[@evanorner]

I always lock the z and use the knee to get anything precise

[@joepie221]

I keep a split collar under the lower quill adjustment wheel on my mill. Its hollow to allow the retaining clip to go inside. Then I wind the bottom nut down and trap the collar. This eliminates the ability to use the power down feed, but provides a very solid 'NO BOUNCE" registration when using the upper nut as a stop.

[@keithslayback4626]

I just want to say thank you for sharing knowledge and experience.

[@tedmattingly7564]

Awesome tips, I learn a lot from you and I really appreciate what you put out on YT. I just picked up a bridgeport and lathe of my own to use at home after being forced to retire from being a diesel mechanic and fabricator for the last 25 years. Cancer is forcing me to slow down and do things differently. At least with these two machines I can stay on my feet and still keep my brain working. Cheers Joe

[@joepie221]

Good luck to you. Stay well.

[@ericmcclelland7942]

I think I enjoy making tools for the shop almost as I do making parts for customers....... You Rock, Joe... Thanks

[@joepie221]

Me too actually. I still use tools I made as an apprentice. It always takes me back.

[@samterian7694]

give instruction to a wise man, he will get wiser 😉 thanks to you Joe the teacher.

[@joepie221]

Give a man a fish and feed him for the day, teach a man to fish and feed him for life.

[@tedmattingly7564]

@@joepie221 get that man a fishing boat and his wife will never see him again LOL

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Lots of great tips there Joe. Enjoyed.

[@joepie221]

Thanks for stopping by Randy. I hope you and your crew are well.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

@@joepie221 Doing well here Hope you are good I know your state is doing well. I am pouring concrete today for my shop addition.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

@@RRINTHESHOP That's no fair. I have been trying to pour concrete for months.

[@dominicbianco3826]

Rebound stop is great to have for the drill press also.

[@TgWags69]

Out of all the millions of hours of youtube milling videos, it is very rare to see the control knobs and such. You should do a series on going over the operation of a 'bridgport" like just basic stuff for the newbie. Maybe in a split screen format idk...but it would probably be popular.

[@joepie221]

Thats a great idea. ( subscriber? )

[@TgWags69]

@@joepie221 Yes, I've been a subscriber for awhile, I even remember some of your early sea sick videos LOL. But you have a pretty good no-nonsense way of presenting things that i think would benefit somebody new to the mill, show them best practices and keep them safe. Just like the south bend how to run a lathe book but for the mill. Throw in a few beginner projects and it would be cool!

[@jimclark5119]

Good stuff Joe! Thanks for taking the time and being such a nice guy.

[@joepie221]

Any time!

[@WorksbySolo]

More valuable information. My to-do list is growing. Thanks Joe!

[@paulcyr2008]

Thanks I did that I could get about 12.5 inches. You are still my star.

[@AJR2208]

Hi Joe, thanks for demonstrating these. Shows that simple is often better and adaptability is best. Sometimes I think you should name these videos as "Expanding The Grey Matter" as you often present ways to re-think common practice in better ways. Stay safe and well :)

[@paco1938]

I have had slotted pieces of pipe for 60 years. Use them all the time so I don't need to spin the stop collars all the way up when I need a spindle stop. Never understood why I never met anyone else that used them.

[@joepie221]

Its a good and fast solution.

[@christopherp.9616]

"unloosen" - is that like "dethaw"?

[@mickandreassen3906]

If I had u on utube when I was a apprentice in 1988 I'd be a legend machinists

[@joepie221]

I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks. I've trained many apprentices over the years.

[@incubatork]

Necessity is the mother of invention, some cool ideas there, always learn something here. 👍

[@peterjohansson7235]

Great ideas! Thanks for showing them. About the quill, when I drill deep holes that are countersunk(?) and dont wont to move the Z-axis for every time, I place a piece of material between the bottom and the stop. When its time to drill the next hole, I remove the material and have full travel of the quill again.

[@kirklindstedt2018]

I have a mill-drill, and the work stops for the vise were very helpfull....thanks.

[@RockingJOffroad]

Great ideas, most of these I knew of. One more thing, a set of mild steel soft jaws is handy also. Now if you only had a way to repair the hard jaws where someone milled down into them. I won’t say who the idiot was who milled a 5/8” hole down through both jaws. I had to order a new set of jaws. Kurt is really proud of their replacement jaws!

[@somebodyelse6673]

Hard Facing. One example - www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/consumables/hardfacing/Pages/hardfacing.aspx You'll have to weigh the cost of new jaws against your labor, just pointing out that it can be done.

[@Alanbataar]

Very nice. The value for me was the 24" plate setup. I always forget about the threads in the back of the jaws.

[@joepie221]

That has been very useful over the years.

[@paulmorrey733]

Thanks Joe

[@anthonyfox8641]

Thanks Joe, good stuff.

[@wallbawden5511]

Great ideas, thank you JOE my box is starting to fill up with nifty little things that make the job easier not harder thanks

[@rogerrascal8632]

As always full of great info, thanks Joe !

[@boblor2484]

great info. always learn a lot from your videos. thanks

[@howardosborne8647]

Every time I see those 'doglegged' toolmakers clamps it reminds me I need to source a supplier and order some. I also notice Stefan G using them quite often. Time to go find some

[@par5endos562]

Are you talking about the Kant Twist clamps?

[@billstanley4819]

Great tips Joe. Some that I’ve never seen before and I will certainly use. Better setups make better parts. Thanks!

[@joepie221]

Agreed.

[@RaysGarage]

Great stuff Joe, thanks for sharing!

[@joepie221]

Thanks Ray. How Ya'll doing?

[@hollywoodcontrols5152]

Rather than a 1” hex bar, I found that that a 3/8th drive TORX bit works great on my Tormach vice bolts!

[@ericcroxton9224]

Another great video joe, some valuable tips I plan to use!!! Thanks

[@erlingweiseth2774]

I just love that upper quill stop! Thanks for sharing! ;)

[@joepie221]

Handy little item to have.

[@davidbawden6567]

Always a pleasure watching your videos Joe...

[@khelix3]

Like the sliding jaw stop! I made one a couple of weeks ago at work before I saw this video. The ones you have look nearly identical to mine.

[@MrJackandEmily]

Me too! I felt just a little bit proud at that moment.. Mine has grub screws and radii on the top but same same..

[@dalemcinnes1834]

Hi Joe,. this has been awesome. Thanks so much for sharing your ideas. This sure opens up lots of ideas to think about and all so simple. Dale in Canada

[@joedanero5360]

Great video Joe! I've shown that little Kurt stop to a number of people. They're always surprised at it. "Oh. That's what that is for?":) Hey. I'm gonna make one of those vise stops for myself. Pretty slick. Makes good use of those back holes of the vise while not in use.

[@joepie221]

Rock solid too.

[@woodenhead8887]

I’m digging that big plate setup. I got a matched pair of D60’s with my machine. I’ll be scamming on this idea in the future.

[@TTR_SLD]

oooh, I have to tell our maual machinist at work what that spring-loaded half-nut is for. he's been using it for the purpose of the sleeve on the bottom of the threaded rod on the quill.

[@joepie221]

He will respect you for it.

[@bernarditaylor7593]

Thanks! Going to try some of them tricked out.

[@timweinmeister5725]

Your videos always make me inspired and make me want to be a better machinist. Thank you. Also I put little nubbies on the bottom of my Kurt vise for quick alignment. Within a half thou everytime.

[@joepie221]

Nice.

[@archangel20031]

Wouldn't unloosening in reality be tightening?

[@billwilson7782]

Thanks, Joe. Solved a couple things I have been dealing with.

[@stumccabe]

Nice ideas - thanks.

[@Peter-V_00]

Brilliant video Joe, very creative and informative, Thank You for taking the time!