Millennials Are Paying To Live In Shares Spaces Like WeLive (HBO)

The co-working startup WeWork, known to millennials as the company providing rentable full-service offices with free-flowing snacks and beer, is now expanding to fully furnished apartments with the same communal feel, dubbed “WeLive.”
VICE News reporter Nellie Bowles spoke with Nicholas Lulli, 25, a vice president at a social networking startup, SumZero, based in New York City. Lulli works in a WeWork office and lives in a WeLive apartment.
“You have Sunday-night family dinner at WeLive followed by Monday-morning breakfast at WeWork,” said Lulli. “It never ends. The WeWork circle of life is what it becomes.”
There are now over 90 WeWork offices across the globe and two WeLive apartment buildings - one in Washington, D.C., and the other in New York. Part of the broader trend in fast-growing startups, WeWork is valued at $16 billion.
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[@LAC32Griffin]

the fiance was clearly thinking "we-will-not" be staying here with kids.

[@TheBIOSStar]

LAC32Griffin haha thought I was the only one who saw that in this comment section. Pretty clear she did not like the thought of that.

[@mackenzieonyx7586]

same exact thing I thought, he's so clueless xD hopefully, she can speak up by the time that happens, she deserves it

[@noahpage7459]

Lmao I was about to say, THEY clearly aren't staying together for much longer 😂

[@asnierkishcowboy]

Maybe, then its gotta be time for WeDontCare what the father wants.

[@GreatValueBleach]

Maybe she had a wevagina, we can share her

[@BeGunNer]

"He likes to read Ayn Rand and biographies of great men". I mean can you be more stereotypical Goldman Sachs?

[@literaticrux8292]

If I'm chatting with someone about books and they mention they are Ayn Rand fans (usually the only author they can name check), the conversation is effectively over.

[@mariaestherrivas4988]

Let me guess he is a libertarian who believes rich people shouldn't pay taxes because the "work hard"

[@thetranspanzer3692]

"famous men" was the quote

[@willceurvels]

haha thought the exact same thing. I'm wondering if we work picked out his books for him too.

[@mrsmontanacheeks]

@@willceurvels WeRead 🤣

[@jasonlajoie]

$4'875.00 per month for a one bedroom? F that. I'd rather ride a 45 min. train out of the city and pay one quarter that amount for a two bedroom apartment.

[@MrJonLott]

I lived for 9 months in Norwalk, Connecticut, about 100 minutes away by train (although it cost $22 for a round trip to NYC), paying less than 15% of that.

[@comp10]

I hope that start up he works at doesn't go under. Cause that rent is going to keep going up.

[@65tttttttttttttttful]

He can easily make $5,000 a week if his travel time is 12 hours a week

[@Extys]

No wonder people who live there don't steal shampoo lmao

[@bobhoskins9595]

@funi Con If you can work on the train its not so bad. Just depends on the time of day you're commuting and if you can adjust. It would require really zoning out of your surroundings. Not many could manage it well.

[@juliarhys5674]

That woman is quite clearly not ok with living in a WeWorld while trying to raise a family. This dude needs to grow up a bit.

[@patriciagarcia9225]

@channel break no is her life too. She is working there too. She doesn't have to go with everything he says. She is not his possesion

[@franco9442]

channel break incel type beat

[@s.p.2494]

@@patriciagarcia9225 go make me a sandwich

[@AlmostaFlipinSkater]

@@s.p.2494 You'll never have a girlfriend with your stupid entitlement

[@s.p.2494]

@@AlmostaFlipinSkater don't need one

[@WeaponOfMyDestructio]

So it basically a college dorm except not shitty?

[@jaeger1447]

Sounds like it. Zero responsibilities, yuppietastic quality of life. Seems like it's just young people paying out the ass to outsource responsibilities and live in an upper-middle-class dorm. with little to worry about outside of eating, sleeping, working and banging.

[@WeaponOfMyDestructio]

I have no idea what a yuppie is. but yeah it's a way for guys who have plenty of cash to live responsibility free to pursue what they want. Which is especially what most rich kids do. I can see the appeal as a sort term thing, to just focus on your startup idea but seems a tad unnecessary in the long run.

[@obsoleteoptics]

WeaponOfMyDestructio Yuppie (/ˈjʌpi/; short for "young urban professional" or "young upwardly-mobile professional") is a term that was introduced in the early 1980s and is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as an individual who is a "member of a socio-economic group comprising young professional people working in cities.

[@fearanarchy]

WeaponOfMyDestructio: Now I feel old... I thought Yuppie was in the zeitgeist/dictionary of our generations. Also, I came to say it was a dorm.. Because it is. I am kinda nostalgic of that feeling. But kids will not work, I bet they'd be asked to leave as it would change the dynamic for others

[@tropingreenhorn]

As far as new york rent goes it is not a bad deal at all, you pay 5 k per month for a closet in mew york. why are people hating on this? Why is this even weird? it is a service, that people can pay for, if no one wanted it it wouldnt exist

[@FrozenVegie]

At first I was like, this sounds cool for people who cant afford a regular NYC apartment. Then I heard it's almost 5k a month. WTF? You could get such a nice private apartment with an incredible view for less than that. These people are insane.

[@AlmostaFlipinSkater]

These people are living off their rich ass parents

[@MariamMariam-ue7vz]

Having free dinner included brings a lot of value though too.

[@tillytill07]

@@MariamMariam-ue7vz "free"?

[@danielvillanueva3792]

@@MariamMariam-ue7vz >5000 bucks >Free Oh snap

[@brazenbull636]

That $5k will be from inflation. Really like $1k by the time you're forced to live like this..

[@ZeppoM]

Just waiting for some creepy twist and the Black Mirror logo to appear.

[@Nyanoko]

I don't think the creepy twist is even needed. Just slap Black Mirror up at the end and it's set.

[@deagalore]

Ooooohh yea

[@maxdondada]

Zeppo M ROTFL

[@raycon921]

same

[@chalupabrain]

This just reminded me that I still have two seasons of black mirror to watch. Thank u kind saint

[@TB-bv1vr]

To his fiancé: Run.

[@cnacks4835]

Oh she's probably long gone by now

[@viperslate]

It's like living in an assisted living facility for younger people.

[@susank.4945]

He obviously would move back home with mom and dad if it wasn't for this.

[@tardis3962]

now everyone works from home company worthless now

[@isatr1511]

No kidding! It really is!

[@soundtherapy4082]

🤣🤣🤣

[@tardis3962]

company close now

[@bdeemter1234]

this is just college outside of college.... i cant be the only one thinking this

[@NewBlueTrue]

Exposed Motion Cinematics This is worse than college.

[@emmaspaz6435]

I thought that

[@honeysugar1]

From college to working professionals regressing back to college lifestyle *smh*

[@saviortower6716]

I know people who refuse to progress from college into the working life. So far he's accumulated about 4 graduate degrees of various fields. I don't know why his family puts up with it.

[@jennwill80]

Just fancier dorms. I loved dorm life except for the shitty amenities though so...?!?

[@chinjewel1]

“he likes to read ayn rand, biographies of famous men” well that explains it

[@mauryser3299]

This is probably the scariest youtube video I've ever seen. please help him!!!

[@Zeno7741]

WE-ird

[@callieford2228]

😂😂

[@jenniferbove5752]

😂

[@kcgunesq]

The #1 thing I like about living in a place I call "MyHouse" is that I am related to every person in it and that I occasionally, have the entire thing to myself. I don't want to have to deal with people to eat every meal, wash clothes or play pool. See, I cherish "MyPrivacy".

[@BaronVonSTFU]

I'm guessing this guy is just abysmal to talk to for long stretches of time.

[@landofthebrave229]

When will men ever learn to read a woman's face 😂😂 "she was like hell no way we staying here with our kids"

[@SonicPhonic]

Odd how they use plastic cutlery and paper plates? Are there no "WeLive" dishwashers?

[@lostandwastedtime]

Michael Gfroerer I was just thinking this.

[@yani7nov]

Michael Gfroerer same here. To me, the single use plastics are probably symbols of the temporary, surface level community. They wouldn’t care to coordinate to do dishes or cooking because food is catered, etc. Just sad, because it’s a lot of plastic trash.

[@imluvinyourmum]

WeWaste

[@ian_b]

@@imluvinyourmum WeSuck

[@xiqueira]

WePollute

[@TsunoOkashi]

There have been several studies done on open and shared work spaces. Several have shown that they generally result in lower productivity, and higher dissatisfaction by employees due to lack of privacy and higher noise levels. I understand Wework offers private offices, conference rooms and phone booths for phone calls. I think the trend has more to do with the shift in the economy towards independent contractors or "gig workers" than it does a desire to work in such an environment.

[@olahola12]

Quote one study.

[@aw2031zap]

I think it depends on the job. If you're in a start up, it's totally different. You can't throw your small team into individual offices, you all need to be communicating in an agile way with each other. "Lower productivity" in some industries I'm sure, but not something like software development? I would be wary of who conducted those studies and what they were getting out of it

[@alatus7242]

Yeah, right, 50 guys sitting in a large hall, a maddening mixture of white and red noise, everyone with large headphones on their heads to isolate themselves from the cacophony, eating inside, walking around, etc. Enough with this agile BS - the number of unicorns and successful startups is steadily on the decline, angel investors and VCs are getting fed up, so hopefully this fad will die soon. If these Millennials could only see the voluntary farmed broilers they are... These ubers, weworks, airbnbs, etc. are such a scam, disguised as disruptors, it's not even funny anymore.

[@aw2031zap]

It doesn't sound any different to me than an office cubefarm. I don't see how that's any different than your average office job.

[@alatus7242]

setitus The difference is that you are employed there and don't have much of a choice, whereas these cattle have the opportunity for a better solution but apparently not the mental capacity for one.

[@neumoniad]

And now we know why this 25 year old looks 35+

[@pdthorn]

"Enjoys reading ayn Rand and biographies of great men." Yeah that accounts for a lot.

[@thetranspanzer3692]

"famous men" was the quote

[@Heritagepostfarms]

This has to do with people being afraid to "adult". Living on your own is stressful, lonely and a lot of work. These people are terrified of that

[@Amateur_Pianist_472]

Farmer Nate why should anyone live alone? We are social creatures. This is why many adults suffer from loneliness.

[@RyanHare]

4875 $/month?! WUT!

[@another5961]

Ryan Hare Goldman sachs

[@JewTube001]

whoa, high rollers!

[@justcallmeassinine]

Hey, no car, meals included, fully furnished,no commute, office included, fat bank accounts, and it is Manhattan. Not a bad lifestyle.

[@narutovskiba88]

+The chosen 1 Ryan hare president of Goldman sachs

[@elizabethbennet4791]

obviously never been to new york huh?

[@RenAok]

WeLive, WeWork and... WeDie, where all get buried together.

[@thoyo]

loves Ayn Rand and exclusive communal living for wealthy entrepreneurs... BioShock anyone??

[@Kevin-hp2zx]

Scan End I guess u gotta find that semblance

[@mynameis9512]

Scan End she ended up living off the goberment

[@Ryan-wx8of]

The author who described selfishness and greed as virtues. Inspired the man who wants his children to live in an upscale youth hostel.

[@BlownMacTruck]

Bioshock and Rand were HIGHLY anti-communal living. Learn your philosophies dude.

[@rell127]

thoyo I was thinking exactly that.

[@KeplerCraft]

That last part I was expecting him to make an expression that displayed that he was joking, but he was dead serious lol.

[@Metabrotropic]

3:01 "The WeLive gives Nick the time to do what he cares about. He likes to read Ayn Rand"... Damn I knew there was something really off about this guy.

[@davida6146]

Eglu Megad I can do all of that with out WeLive

[@RYk1234100]

The dude reads Ayn Rand but lives in a communist's wet dream this has got to be the most ironic thing I've seen

[@justcallmeassinine]

This is like long term care for young ,working people !

[@Account-pr6vk]

🤦🏻‍♀️ you’re totally right. How depressing

[@TeddehSpaghetti]

Please, God, don't let this be the future...

[@randomnumbers84269]

It's the present if you want.

[@Gala-yp8nx]

Strikes me as a cult you have to pay to be a part of.

[@Cavscout101]

Carter Kinoy like a fraternity?

[@StephenSatire]

@@Cavscout101 I was thinking more like something that resembles a pyramid like structure, but is totally not a pyramid.

[@admiralpercy]

This is soul crushing

[@elizabethbennet4791]

it's like they are robot slaves who have never had their own pet or planted a seed in the ground and tended it. This is silently dystopian.

[@Cyancat123]

@@elizabethbennet4791I wonder if there’s a name for this type of person so I can avoid them

[@elizabethbennet4791]

@@Cyancat123 techies?

[@macberry4048]

I think what's really shocking about millennials is the willingness to solve problems as a team. Kids are are growing up solving problems completely different than their parents

[@_synthicyde]

This is a cult.

[@deagalore]

Synthicyde yes culty

[@ivangoh5619]

Yeah It's called college.

[@Pescasaurus]

So who's the leader? Pretty sure cults have leaders.

[@jacob.g.l1592]

Sebastian Joseph Perry Not always. That's not in the definition of a cult.

[@nikoladanilovic5636]

Why is that a cult?

[@aannddrreewwcosta]

1:16 Of course he gets on the subway before everyone has gotten off.

[@ClarenceSkis]

When you read Ayn Rand but you somehow end up creating a leftist commune

[@JeremyKrantz]

$4,875 a month for what is a glorified dorm room w/ Ikea furniture?!!?! daaaamnnn

[@rubenlopez988]

"He likes to read Ayn Rand", well, that explains a lot.

[@tonysingh9426]

This feels promotional

[@Hilarity2000]

Can you PLEASE DO AN UPDATE ON THIS COUPLE? What happened to Nicolas Lulli? What is happening to WeLive now that WE Work is melting down. We need to find out what happened to someone who reads AYN RAND while paying huge money to live in a commune. He's amazing. smdh

[@ImJiom]

of course the CEO thinks its great...it's HIS company, it's not WE anything to him ask the employees anonymously what they think

[@claytonbennett7797]

"He likes to read Ayn Rand and the biographies of famous men," was probably the most artistic way to quietly dig someone for being immature. Dorm life.

[@yayab6378]

Lol that look at the end she clearly doesn’t want that😂😂

[@davida6146]

I wonder how they’re doing during the pandemic...? Did half of them die?

[@djclawson]

I know how the communal area smells just by looking at it.

[@MikeyPaper]

Probably like filthy feces mixed with sweat and curry.

[@mandolinsam7901]

"he likes to read Ayn Rand" "Huh, I was getting a feeling he was a giant prick"

[@danielmasters8145]

I want an update on this couple

[@OsCc6082]

close to 5k$ a month? man that is a luxury hostal.

[@Azara1th]

lol $4,785/mo for a shitty 1-bedroom that looks like it sprang from an IKEA catalog... Nothing NYC has to offer would make that deal worth it.

[@PauloEdson]

The next step is WeWife, where you pay to share your spouse with 5 other manchild entrepreneurs!

[@elizabethbennet4791]

an Extrovert's paradise....

[@myself047]

Currently the situation is like, "We Leave" For everyone associated with this apparently "tech" Company. Plus the CEO has been ousted.

[@Kosmo999]

The phrase 'WeLive to WeWork..'(smirk giggle giggle) IS probably the whitest, saddest, 'forever alone meme' slogan I think I've ever heard.

[@Hithere-ct2kp]

kosmo spacejams How is it white?

[@lemonlimesnout]

kosmo spacejams lmao! Same i was thinking the same thing too...

[@hertro8538]

Keep being jealous of whites succeeding little shit.

[@Bettie_Rage]

Reminds me a bit of the book Brave New World

[@augurelite]

Feels like a weird black mirror episode and I dont think id like it unless I could have a private bedroom and living room, but honestly this reminds me of everything i loved about living on campus in my first year of uni

[@aliciapurple96]

I surmise millennials are attracted to communes because most did not have adequate bonds with their family or friends. Much of life was and is spent disconnected from human interaction. This ensures you will never be alone. Thoughts?

[@elizabethbennet4791]

Yep there was also a thing Vice did on poor kids in japan living at these all night internet terminals. You rent per day like $50 or whatever and have wifi and a cubicle to sleep. Sees similar

[@aw2031zap]

I would put forward the argument that it's incredibly wasteful for "everyone to own a private dishwasher, car, home, lawn mower, etc." - how often does your lawn mower sit around not being used? How often does your car sit in a parking lot? Do you actually need these things? Do you actually have more personal freedom by owning these things? I don't think so. Sharing what you own when you're not using it just makes sense. And these kinds of communal properties do have a logic to them that is external to you trying to group a bunch of people under a term the old fogies at an out of touch news agency came up with... Yeah, this kind of living is shocking to see if your idea of the 'american dream' is giving away 60% of your income to your house mortgage and car loan every year, another 20% to the gov't -- but is that really different to what this guy is doing? He might be getting a better deal.

[@mobiledevto]

setitus I'm going to be so bold as to suggest it's not 8 billion people on earth owning a lawnmower each.. It's 8 billion people on earth that's the problem. We no longer have plagues and mass death that thins the population so there are enough resources to go around. That being said.. I don't want to be first in line to die. But I did make a conscience choice to only have one child.

[@poopybutt29]

setitus ....but when you use that lawnmower once a week it lasts for 15 years. When everyone uses it everyday you would be lucky to get through the summer.

[@vancouverbill]

Partly as a reaction to social media and also partly as a reaction to highly disfunctional surbubia designed to accommodate cars not people. Also gradual decline in community clubs such as churches, working men clubs etc. I would prefer to have more choice in how it is run and designed and decide that as a community rather than trusting a company to do it but I can definitely see the appeal of communal living.

[@neolexington]

This whole thing perpetuates the idea that everything should be provided to the individual. Instead of a family providing everything, it's a company. Pretty ingenious, yet dangerous, should the time come when the individual has to provide for themselves.

[@maryanne2025]

neolexington well they are technically paying for it.. its not like they can't live on their own without the luxuries it provides..but it does help him focus on his start up

[@Amateur_Pianist_472]

neolexington did you not hear how much rent he has to pay?

[@SeanLumly]

Huh? This makes it sound like rich people under capitalism are toiling away rather than paying other people to do things for them...

[@TitanSubZero15]

"He like to read Ayn Rand" This guy is just hopeless....

[@bcnicholas123]

Why is there a pool table in the middle of the laundry room? Lol

[@Dummerbrella987]

lol that girl sitting beside him in that co-working space like can you NOT eat your sticky ass curried meat at the desk?

[@sevenkings2354]

This is what mom meant when she said some ppl are "educated fools" smh

[@lizhumble9953]

This just looks like a hipster version of mill housing. You all live together, work together and eat together. It even had the company store. This did not turn out well for the mill workers. When you dislike your job you can’t leave because you can lose your place to live, leaving you beholden to the company.

[@cristenshannon9139]

he doesn't work for wework, he works for his own startup, he just uses their space to do his work. If he wants a different job, he doesn't have to give up his living space, that's not how it works. he can find another job and keep paying for his spot at welive. he can even keep the wework space but just open a new company there. it's not all tied together, he pays for it individually. he just likes the idea of sharing communal space, that's why he uses this service.

[@BenRangel]

3:05 - I thought the idea of a communal kitchen, like a dorm but much fancier seemed nice. But turns out they are using paper plates and plastic forks. What the hell? It looks more like a hostel than an expensive commune.

[@GraverFILMS]

2:38 This guy creeps me out. "I'm perfectly happy having someone else determine my life decisions" Sounds like a cop out for someone who can't cope outside of a life of structure, which I'm seeing more and more increasingly in each generation. The level that brainwashing has reached is honestly terrifying.

[@xivok]

I am going to start WeFart

[@accursedomega9662]

"I owe my soul to the company store!"

[@spookyghostship]

This whole thing made sense after he said he reads Ayn Rand

[@MC-kj7dy]

This is the problem with news sources not questioning the stupidity right in front of them.

[@VICENews]

The co-working startup WeWork, known to millennials as the company providing rentable full-service offices with free-flowing snacks and beer, is now expanding to fully furnished apartments with the same communal feel, dubbed “WeLive.” VICE News reporter Nellie Bowles spoke with Nicholas Lulli, 25, a vice president at a social networking startup, SumZero, based in New York City. Lulli works in a WeWork office and lives in a WeLive apartment. “You have Sunday-night family dinner at WeLive followed by Monday-morning breakfast at WeWork,” said Lulli. “It never ends. The WeWork circle of life is what it becomes.” There are now over 90 WeWork offices across the globe and two WeLive apartment buildings - one in Washington, D.C., and the other in New York. Part of the broader trend in fast-growing startups, WeWork is valued at $16 billion.

[@Cyancat123]

Pin your comment lol

[@slavmetal]

Sounds to me like these people want their entire lives to be like first year college dorms. Hard pass 💀

[@waltermcmain3461]

*twilight zone music*

[@cdv1qa]

He literally drinks the cool aid at the end

[@justcallmeassinine]

It's a high priced kibbutz !

[@yuufeternal5837]

Don't they cooperatively make products in a kibbutz? Where this is not so much like that?

[@GraverFILMS]

3:35 His wife's face That's the face of fear right there

[@PenAndSea]

A 4k apt with no privacy? Sounds like a scam lol

[@moejoe1863]

So it's like living at Foxconn in China, but you pay $4,875/mo.

[@brtecson]

I thought millenials want to live in tiny houses..

[@iukeay]

Creepy

[@rohansaxena4751]

Ayn Rand would be turning in her grave if she knew that a guy was living in a space in which he has to share stuff with others and doesn't have ambitions for a bigger home🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@G33K177]

At the end the fiance smiled so much I wanted to cry

[@ecclairmayo4153]

He lost me at he didnt mind "Big Brother" selecting his living space and furniture for him...

[@ian_b]

It's interesting he's a fan of Ayn Rand. In my experience in the er "libertarian community" there is a tendency for them to devolve to a kind of privatised communist ideal. I don't think Rand intended that but they can end up thinking that if the market provides something it must be Good, as with his table. If the government had told him to have a table there it would be Bad, but a corporate entity doing it must be Good. For me personally, the purpose of liberty- including free markets- is to enable individualism. I find what I see here truly horrifying.

[@muthuk]

I have no words it's like they are from a different time

[@Salgood]

Hah! Reads Rand, lives in a commune. The irony must have the old lady spinning in her grave.

[@user-od5wn3wd9x]

I wonder if they have a Wii.

[@YARRRNI]

A video has never gave me these type of vibes and not good ones it just makes me feel so uncomfortable and like it’s never ending and horrible.

[@StanDoesaThing]

did anybody else pause and rewind to hear that he pays almost $5k a month for that? get outta here with that insanity.

[@YourMajesty143]

Anybody who's watched "Sorry to bother you" would automatically see the scary parallels of this to the WorryFree company in the movie.

[@timothyrice1621]

Holy fuck, that was weird. Cheers from rural New England.

[@berryberrykixx]

I'm a "millennial" and I could never ever do this. I NEED my privacy.

[@ampred]

I am thinking of starting a WeKid too now. Yeah, let's just share our kids!

[@mccg4337]

Their Manhattan room sharing is like 3,500 per month !! OMFG !! I mean Communal living was something to get costs down right ?? or am i getting it wrong ??

[@ngali]

Paying nearly 5K a month to live an everyday consumerist life in a commune seems overpriced - and only good for the short term. It makes sense if you want to focus on your work and not have to do ANYTHING ELSE - no shopping, no cooking, no decorating, no back and forth to gym to laundromat - but it you do it forever then you don't get have a life.

[@willceurvels]

LOve how he refers to having more free time as "operational leverage" hahaha, dude get out before it's too late.

[@brandiroyal7443]

We-don’t-want-that!!😂😂😂

[@leerush6978]

All it took was this video to know I would NEVER want to PAY to have to share space with a bunch of post frat-boy, Ayn Rand-reading Chads 😂😂

[@MrBLAA]

Annnnnnnnd now they’re in need of 8 Billion Dollars🤦‍♂️ Who would’ve thought a company being propped up with unicorn farts is an entity of fantasy... Oh wait, ViCE did... VICE thought they had a successful business model👌😂

[@404nonexistent]

What's up with the chick eyeing his food around the minute mark? Weird

[@justcallmeassinine]

Food hoarding.

[@Muzikrazy213]

Looks like she was repulsed by it to me.

[@honestreviews8445]

I wonder how well this is worked out during corona

[@maniesh]

Sounds like a cult, with extra work

[@sephicloczo6294]

1984... we love We.