The SECRET Move Ben Hogan And Moe Norman Used For Elite Ball Striking

Is this the one secret move Ben Hogan and Moe Norman used for elite ball striking??
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In this video, Milo explores a feel and rehearsal these two ball striking legends often used, even giving this instruction to others. Ben Hogan called this one move "the first move," and Moe Norman called this "the feeling of greatness." Some have seen this move as an exclusive movement to the right elbow in golf swing, but maybe there is more to it, more of a systematic approach? And maybe this signature move could help your golf swing? Let's explore...
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[@rackum44]

It totally makes sense. I've been working really hard of keeping my right wrist bent in a downswing because I was getting rid of the angle too early. And one thing I noticed is my body has to turn and let the hands and arms follow in order to help keep the right wrist bent back

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Bingo! Thanks for following along!

[@matiaszazzali7882]

When you show the move without hitting the ball, the clubface is open at p6 every time, but then on the actual swing you make, the face is square. I dont really understand that. My main problem is getting to p6 with te clubface open, very much like when you demonstrate the move without hitting the ball.

[@goneflying140]

I have a big problem with severe hooks. I think this will really help me. Thank you!!!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Let me know if I can be of further help and thanks for watching! milolinesgolf.com

[@goneflying140]

@MiloLinesGolf Thank you!!! It's winter here in Michigan, so when spring hits, I will be on the range, armed with this knowledge.

[@JonSmith-c6d]

Super description and execution of the mechanics. Big fan of moe’s for a long time. The problem I have with it is that I loose a ton of distance and my miss is a big wipe out to the right. Hogan perfected it to stop big hooks and I’ve perfected it to give me big slices. Still, it’s a beautiful looking move. I wonder if growing up playing baseball (which I didn’t) makes it easier.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

I had to make some adjustments from my baseball days to control club face. Sounds like yours it too open, but I'd have to see your swing to offer the best feedback. Have you looked into joining my online academy? milolinesgolf.com

[@m3toz4]

the pushing up of the right arm and rotate the club up and backward look like float loading, but man, that' s where the power come from. Thanks coach!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks for watching!

[@dougm659]

Fascinating and, considering what phenomenal ball strikers Hogan and Norman were, this is something to take very seriously! I often note how steep top pros’ shoulders are relative to the ground, some are almost vertical at impact whereas most amateurs have shoulders barely off level.

[@weznoo]

these sums it up the golf swing once and for all 👍

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Not sure about that haha, but thanks for the comment!

[@quantumpotential7639]

This is like a piece of scripture. You can come across and read or hear the same verse dozens, hundreds of times even, and then one day, it's like the Hogan's first move comes to life at your very core. Everything clicks. You dun seen the light. Praise to The Almighty. Trust in His 1 iron. It'll bring you home.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Haha, thanks so much for watching.

[@lifesaver3499]

hogan wrote the bible and moe spoke the truth

[@killianhouse1]

This is AWESOME !!! Imma take it to the range

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Let us know how it goes!

[@danielbouchard4074]

i do this now and its working thank 👌

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Good to hear Daniel, thanks for watching!

[@Paul-lm5gv]

(2:05) Not only a 'stable strike' but that's how the power is generated! Like Hogan said, it's the same move a baseball infielder would use to throw the ball hard to 1st base! But golf legend Jack Nicklaus had a 'flying elbow' swing and he did pretty good on the PGA Tour too!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks for watching Paul!

[@DeadlyKiss000]

How does this tie in with a roll release please? Great instruction.

[@tompem]

At 22 seconds into it...If I didn't know it was Moe, you'd think he was demonstrating what it means to be "stuck". What happened to "keeping the club in front of you"?....

[@mikebarnard2689]

Transporting the window… Love That !!!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks for watching Mike!

[@paulboyd561]

TREMENDOUS!! Great video

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@russquick7899]

Know a lot re: Moe's method. Good session Milo.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks!

[@dry509]

But how do you get from that position down to the ball?

[@donaldschmidt2990]

If you want to see the visual personification of perfection, watch Ben Hogan's golf swing over and over!! Especially at impact. If you look at it in slow motion his right elbow is virtually NAILED to his side, almost beyond impact. Eat your heart out Jack and Tiger. Even they had nothing close to the control of a golf ball Hogan possessed. They just putted better!! If you want to see how to HIT a ball from tee to green, look no further than Golf's greatest ever shotmaker. William Ben Hogan.

[@OfCourseICan]

Milo, As you are probably aware, I'm a 71 year old Aussie dude who has been following your coaching for a while. I have implemented this move and it's had a profound effect on my game. I wonder if we can take advantage of each other! I had placed a bet at my club Nov.2023 that I would get to Single figures by Nov.2024I was 21 hcp at the time. I have had health issues and played and won a board event that soaked up precious weeks and I'm still down to 13.9. I need to focus on getting my short Irons closer to the pin!!! Do you think we can we work together somehow? Thanks. J.L.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Sure thing, I have an online academy which includes monthly analysis and our program, and can do virtual lessons. My website has all the details for this: milolinesgolf.com.

[@OfCourseICan]

No, I meant deeper than that. You don't come across too many 71 year Olds with a terminal illness playing off 21hcp and declaring and achieving a Single figures HCP with in 12months.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

@@OfCourseICan what are you proposing?

[@OfCourseICan]

BTW, I had a look at your short iron video and invaluable chipping: maintaining the radius that should shave mega stokes off my handicap.

[@lisaroach2445]

I'm guessing you have a two or three knuckle lead hand grip. If you set up with the clubface looking way left and then swing it open on the way down. Your body will respond in the same exact way with the window.

[@truthlifefishing1730]

Mo Norman is clearly EMPHASISING the movement with that bold, sweeping pose.

[@Tito_1982]

This move is absolutely clutch. I’ve been able to replicate it but I need pointers like the feels you mention so it becomes natural and more consistent. A lot of the longest players on tour like Min Woo Lee have that same window open with the trail arm well below the lead arm, produces tremendous width and speed.

[@Kennyindia]

Respectfully, I believe that, for Mr Hogan, this "secret move" stemmed from the initiation of his down swing by his lower body and the proper sequencing that resulted and not any conscious positioning of the forearms. He always emphasized proper sequencing in his instruction, whereas Mr Norman very much emphasized the arm positions.

[@jmm4081]

I have seen this demonstrated. If you were hitting a ball that was waist high, I get it. What I don’t understand is how you get the club down to the ground where the ball is.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

You have to compress into the ground.

[@TrevorScott465]

This was great, one of Milo’s best. So in baseball you’re driving a waist high ball out into the field. In golf, think of an imaginary ball being not directly in front of you, but instead 90 degrees over on your trail side, still at waist height. Make it your goal to hit the imaginary ball straight down into the ground, not toward the target. Your target is the center of the earth. Think of hitting this imaginary ball with your shaft, not your clubhead. This is key. After that, the clubhead getting to the ball will take care of itself! Happy hunting!

[@michaelshanker4760]

Moe called it "The Master Move" - feeling of greatness was a general term referring to his game of golf, not a particular move.

[@michaelshanker4760]

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[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thank you, yes I misspoke a bit, but in same clip. Maybe I'll do a new video on the Master Move haha.

[@tedwilliams4833]

Thanks Milo, here's that 8-min video: "Body Rotation in Golf Swing to Propel Clubhead to Ball with Lag and Zero Club Shaft Twist + Drills" kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2Taf4OldrN3pcU

[@briansmith2125]

Subbed today. Weird question though. What brand of pants are you wearing? I'm early 50's and do not like the slim fit offerings on the market and these look perfect.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Donald Ross Sport

[@quantumpotential7639]

Time to go back to the balloon style pants popularized by MC Hammer, who carried a plus 1 handicap before he lost his fortune after the rap business. Now he plays to an 8.

[@briansmith2125]

@@quantumpotential7639 If I could play religiously to an 8 I'd wear his ballon pants today! I'm in!

[@robertavery880]

Looks a good move and makes sense , but could lead to a Shank

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Could, especially at first when changing movement patterns. I often get students that make a change and start hitting shanks, but it's never a concern as they just need to then adjust how they power the system. Few more shots and they start flushing it!

[@bjohnson515]

trail scapula compressing......wow, there's a thought! Trail side crunch? Lateral side bend? Pulling the heavy chain.... Milo.... It is my opinion that Hogan did in the backswing the opposite of what he wanted to occur in the downswing. He cupped his left wrist to promote the "uncupping" (bowing) into impact He had right arm on top at address and in the backswing to promote just what you cover in this video...right elbow/arm under Your thoughts please.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

To some degree I think you’re correct

[@bjohnson515]

@@MiloLinesGolf DO you agree he had his right arm is somewhat on top of the left at address.? The Cano films really show it....1953. And he certainly cupped taking away. If you have a moment, where do you "somewhat" disagree? Thanks. kzbin.info/www/bejne/noK0g6p-dr9lf80&ab_channel=FernandoCano

[@jimthomas1759]

Interesting observation. Golf has many times been called a game of opposites.

[@Pjkoko]

They actually did not do that and if you go to far the club gets stuck behind and you have to flip. Both Hogan and Norman had a good down and forward move but the club never got as far behind as is illustrated. There is a difference between what it feels like and how it actually takes place.

[@PJw-th7xn]

This move from the top cured my over the top. Try not lifting your arms like Hogan. It makes the move much easier

[@MiloLinesGolf]

This is definitely the opposite of covering it from the top, thanks for the watch!

[@richardbas7574]

Hogan hit it 50 yards by Moe. Clubhead speed not even close. Moe was an unusual guy. Hit the ball straight and all that but really regardless of what people perceive wasn’t a world class player at any point. Hogan produced serious clubhead speed and on demand could absolutely bomb it. Comparing Moe Norman in any way to Ben Hogan is almost criminal.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

You are positive on this? Did Moe and Hogan play together? Do we have clubhead speeds for both? I'm not disagreeing, but just wondering. I would think Hogan probably did have a little extra pop, but Moe could flush it. This video is more so about their rehearsal and feel similarities, not comparing them as actual golfers.

[@richardbas7574]

@@MiloLinesGolf very sure. Hogan absolutely crushed it. Spalding clocked his swimg at 132mph suggesting he had the fastest swing on tour. He could carry his 1 iron 230 to 240 with the old equipment and Balata ball. Moe would have been in the 105 mph range in his peak years. Moe is folklore compared to the legends of the game.

[@The-ul6fd]

@@richardbas7574 yet Mike Austin described Hogan as ‘short’

[@bonjovi7120]

You are delusional kid. No golfer has ever played pro golf being short. The shortest pro is anywhere between 50 and 100 meters longer off the tee than any weekend golfer. You don’t get a pro card by hitting 5 and 6 irons into every green😂😂😂

[@BOBPERIO2]

This move seems so contrary to what your former colleague Mike Malaska advocates in the golf swing. Am I wrong about this?

[@TheWedgeWizard]

Malaska’s “over the top from the inside move”? Yes, he talks about playing from a stuck from the inside position for years until figuring it out. To far laid off and inside isn’t good, like in the examples Moe and hogan were showing were very exaggerated from where they are in their actual swings. If you watch most tour players in slo motion they’re closer to what Malaska describes. Really it isn’t exaggerated inside, or over the top from the inside but rather right down the slot. The extreme feel of going either way can be necessary to achieve the ideal positions though, reals and feels of course.

[@BOBPERIO2]

Thank you for your reply. It seems to me that without SIGNIFICANT body rotation through impact, the clubface would be wide open at impact. My 69 year old body cannot achieve that degree of rotation comfortably. Also, doesn’t that laying the club off move promote handle dragging and subsequent flipping of the clubhead through impact? Just seems like a recipe for a big golf shot out to the right. Just wondering.

[@TheWedgeWizard]

@@BOBPERIO2 you’d definitely need lots of rotation to square the face getting into similar laid off positions in the downswing. Reminds me of how sergio always set the club and dropped way inside. Personally I’ve always found the most success trying to keep everything very neutral & steady where the butt of my shaft in the downswing around p5 is pointing back at the ball, outside of it being to flat/inside & pointing inside of the ball being to steep. Keeping my spine angle relatively the same as address as impact and a steady head instead of trying to decrease my spine angle as much as possible by getting a super deep lead hip and of course causing my head to move along with it. Basically I’ve gone with similar positions as Butch harmon teaches, tiger in 2000, Adam Scott, as well as a lot of Jack Grouts/Nicklaus’s methods of simplicity. neutral, square, balanced, simple. I’ve always been able to shape the ball anyway with ease, a great ball striker & long sticking with those simple, neutral positions as well as allowing some room for my own tendencies. It seems a lot of golf instruction these days wants people to go to many extremes weather it’s dropping way to the inside, getting as much hip depth as possible in the down swing which in return forces your spine angle to decrease then you’ll need lots of side bend and of course your head must dip down to follow the way you’ll see many young players do who have been taught that. Some people preach over the top, some preach dropping way inside, yadayada, but it feels like we’ve lost sight of neutral, balanced, square positions in the swing. I’m not saying this channel or anyone specifically but golf instruction as a whole has become who can go against the grain and stand out rather than teaching the methods that have been proven to work and win championships. Like I said before though, sometimes extreme feels are required to get neutral reals. As someone who’s been complete obsessed with this game for over 30 years, went to school for golf, taught golf for over 20 years, been playing competitively since I was a junior, have multiple course records, loves reading/watching/learning everything I can about swing dynamics, biomechanics, laws of ball flight, teaching methods, course management/design, sports phycology, etc etc. the more I’ve learned, the more I’ve realized the simplest methods are the most effective and simply having a full understanding of “the new laws of ball flight” and how they relate to swing dynamics/biomechanics is bar none the most helpful lessons any golfer can learn. Basically understanding the basic physics of the game makes it infinitely easier to control that little white ball yet I see very few instructors actually teaching them but rather just teaching how to get in positions without the student understanding the why.

[@AndrewDCDrummond]

@@BOBPERIO2 I bet it can rotate more than you think. Make sure your backswing involves turning into your trail hip socket to obtain the hip turn (internal rotation of trail leg) and then rotate your hip back to square by externally rotating your trail leg back to the square position, then continue to open up - Milo shows this move in a video from a long while ago and it really makes opening up and maintaining hip depth easier. Milo also has a lowering at the start of the transition, which helps the move. Padraig Harrington also has some good videos of how the pelvis/hips work.

[@BOBPERIO2]

Thank you for the suggestions. Much appreciated. 👍🏻

[@BossCrunk]

You can hit every one of these positions and still not have any lag or power. Unless you can hit a 7i at least 160 yards, the vast majority of Hogan is pointless. Learn to swing hard, and hit the ball hard, first.

[@pizzipaul1]

Your wrong...

[@bonjovi7120]

Who still hits a 7 iron only 160 yards? I hit my old Ping Eye orange dots 160 yards back in the 1990s when I was in my twenties. With modern equipment I now hit my PW a 160 yards in my fifthies😂😂😂

[@pizzipaul1]

@bonjovi7120 I'm a caddy for 35 years. I've caddied for tour pros, hackers and everyone in between on a world class golf course. I very caddied for female tour pros, one who was the longest hitter on the female tour her entire career. I'm not doubting you can hit a PW 160 or whatever....can't be very pretty. But if you want to argue with me on yardages and the golf swing you will get smoked like a cigar all day every day.

[@bonjovi7120]

@@pizzipaul1 time to take your meds cause you are delusional again….

[@toddlittle926]

INCREDIBLE!!! That's the best 8 minutes of instruction to understand the feeling of the swing I've ever scene. Using two of the best golf ball strikers ever, simular sport athletes and your own mechanic's for a resounding confirmation for great movement. You turned whats extremely difficult for most into a simple understandable form. EXCELLENT!!!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks so much Todd! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@latanglarigi]

❤

[@quantumpotential7639]

He read the same scripture hundreds, even thousands of others have uttered. But this time the word came to life. Praise His Holy Name. Hallejjah

[@justinanderson9972]

You're so close but you're missing the one move is a horizontal press towards the target That's actually the first move that press is what actually moves everything in front of you Moe Norman said it was a vertical drop with a horizontal tug Ben Hogan you can see moves towards the tart moves his back towards the target to bring the elbow down into position to slide past itself their first move is always with the back moving towards the target to set the pendulum

[@robrodgersse]

The interesting thing about the right elbow at impact is that it only gives the illusion of having been independently driven forward in the downswing. This is because the effect of rib cage / hip rotation is being missed. If you isolate the right elbow, 3D imaging shows at impact it's actually behind it's address position relative to the rib cage. To prove this to yourself, create a good impact position, then without changing the position of the club, wrists and arms, return to address posture (bring your hips and rib cage from the open position of impact back to the square position of address). If you do this correctly, you'll see the club is about 18" behind the ball and right elbow is a few inches behind its position at address. The only reason the right elbow appears forward is the rotation of the hips and rib cage. It's ironic, but the more a player tries to drive the right elbow forward independently in the downswing and through impact, the more they're going to shut down hip/rib cage rotation through the ball. The right elbow should lag behind and be pulled (towed, as Milo says) around by the rib cage, not be driven across it.

[@RobertFlynn-i4h]

You and malaska both at the same place and teach the opposite, Mike says create a feel as though you are tipping the club out, so what is correct, and which is better for a senior golfer, I'm 65, perhaps you two guys do a video together, it would interesting, because you are different

[@cpking7]

Milo is always teaching the same swing, but giving us new and different ways to feel and think about it. If you're good at a different swinging sport, then learning how the golf swing is like some movement from that grooved, confident swing can be the key to unlock your athleticism in the golf swing. I love that Milo don't care how he gets us get there as long as he gets us there!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks as always! Glad you are enjoying the videos.

[@lasvegasbreakingnews1752]

What a crock. A "secret" move! No secret at all. Just a con man preying upon gullible golfers.

[@9zhivago]

Great video, Milo. A real eye opener. It provides a clear concept of what the golfer should be trying to accomplish. I've been visualizing the opposite for my entire golfing life.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

A different point of view no doubt.

[@knkklassy]

Milo is the one of the best teachers and you can understand why he is becoming so popular. Love these weekly videos and this is a masterpiece!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

You are too kind. Thanks for following along!

[@HolyGrailOfGolf]

I couldn't agree more. Although, it's a very difficult sensation to teach. I feel like my hands are moving upward as my body turns through the shot and when it's done correctly the ball explodes off the face.

[@jv6844]

If you've been an over the top swinger your whole life, this is going to feel VERY different. I'm going on 4 years, and it's just now starting to feel normal. My advice is to start slow, and don't worry about distance. As soon as you start going for distance, your old pattern will show up. The mind muscle connection has been a bitch to retrain. At least for me.

[@TheBooze13]

Agree man just got this feeling down after coming over the top for years. Very weird. The good thing is it’s a feeling I have to concentrate and because it feels so weird I know I’m swinging it right when I feel it lol

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Old habits die hard

[@countfloyd1269]

But I thought over the top was a miracle swing.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

@@countfloyd1269 hand path in and over can be a great pattern when matched up correctly.

[@hazmat8770]

Christo?

[@theraceanalystphdprovingha4119]

"...a whole movement pattern."

[@MiloLinesGolf]

The System 🙌

[@DASH1ful]

Well, all you do is press the index finger side of your left hands towards the adjacent thumb pad of your left hand, in the transition. It's that simple

[@TheSalonGuy]

How do you not blade it dead right by doing this?

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Wrist conditions and face need to match up.

[@mck974]

@@MiloLinesGolf I love the vague explainations... lol. "wrist condition and face need to match up".. lol thanks bud... that clears it up for him lol. Hey @TheSalonGuy.... the move this guy is talking about is a feeling!! Moe Norman said that it was a feeling. He also said he wanted to feel like he was swinging the club down the line and not to the left. We all know that is not what actually happens in real time. The club goes to the left regardless. Feel vs. Real. By now, we all know the difference between "FEEL and REAL". Some people say the complete opposite... like you should feel like you're releasing the club from the top. Again, this is a "FEELING" not reality. I get it. But you can't look at this as anything you should consciously be doing in the swing. If your Grip is fundamentally correct, the hinge will facilitate good release of the club head. The wrists do NOT really hang back that long. Look up mike malaska's video on tipping the club. It is much more useful to understand how the hinge works in the swing and how to not lose the club behind you, and maintaining leverage on the club, while allowing the hands and arms to FALL into the "slot". You should never feel like you're pulling it from the top. The ONLY form of pulling you should try to feel is your body weight... pulling the shoulders, arms, hands and club into contact. If you maintain the proper hinge, the rest should take care of it's self. There's a fine line between firmness and tension. The tension in your arms needs to be removed before you turn away from the ball. If you tried to hold off the release like this video is telling you, you will launch everything to the right.... just like in the intro of the video, you see this guy blast one way out to the right. If you can FEEL like you keep the trail elbow in front of the trail hip, make a full turn while utilizing a proper hinge, with the correct tempo and pressures from the ground, send the proper transition of weight from the ball of the trail foot, back (and to the left) into the Heel of the front foot. This will facilitate a clearing of the left hip, and in doing so, if the connection is maintained in the hinge, the hands, arms, and the head of the club, come down to the back of the ball with very little rotation. the rotation that causes you to face the target at the end of the swing is a result of the club taking you through to the finish. you should never try to hold off the release.

[@djpoints]

A *supinated lead wrist* into impact. Mr Hogan emphasized this as much, if not more than any other point throughout his books. Pair this with his "three right hands" and it's nearly impossible not to flush the ball all day long. And the real magic is when you combine it all with the tensionless transition Milo discussed. Oh and the secret sauce is a very simple reach away and up as your takeaway. I know the one plane low and slow muscular approach is en vogue since Tiger, but in my experience the two plane approach is so much more body friendly and productive. And it just looks so better too.

[@dennisobrycki4029]

This reminds me so much of what teacherman, baseball hitting guru teaches

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Some similarities, yes.

[@thomasfraser9072]

⁠Hi Milo there may be a better way. Since our trail trigger index finger in connection to both hands and wrists are what actually turns our trail elbow inwards; I take the following measures At setting up to my ball bending forward I simply preset my trail elbow rolling it inward towards my stomach just enough as to not disturb my grip as well as my club head laying perpendicular to my ball. I then simply swing my club back with my arms and shoulders which moves my hips and legs automatically. At the transitional part of my swing I specifically use the trail index trigger finger of my right hand to throw my club head down to and through the ball exiting left to a classic finish of my swing. The trail overhand throwing specifically using my trail trigger finger brings my trail elbow back into its slot along my stomach line and the centripetal force of my club head does the rest. Cheers 🥂👍😊

[@VoodooZ]

I've able to somewhat reproduce that feel at slower pace and what makes it work is that I "feel" like I'm turn steering counter-clockwise going back which then causes the tension in the arms/wrists/shoulders to "spring" back the other way at the top and shallows out automagically... NOt sure if that's the right way of visualizing it but I'm getting closer.. Just need to resist temptation to swing at my usual 110% or I revert back. Fighting my brain more than anything. ;)

[@geoffhunt7965]

Milo, One of your very best videos! Thank you!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Glad you liked it!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

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[@azcharlie2009]

Yeah, this is the FIRST move. But, just before impact, there is massive rotation very quickly to square the club. All great players do it. Hack Motion proves this. In reality, this is just hitting from the inside and not over the top.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Does the player do it or does it happen due to passive torque?

[@mikebirnie6381]

Thanks Milo...just reinventing my swing and looking for a baby fade...think youre onto it man...appreciated

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks for following along! If I can be of further help, please do reach out on my website, milolinesgolf.com.

[@izgubicu]

Milo this is a great video, however, whenever I try to do this and exaggerate my right elbow in and below my left arm, I always push it out to the right or slice it cuz I do not have enough time to turn the club over and or release it. How do I fix that please?

[@MiloLinesGolf]

When I do this move the face really isn't open and I can unwind pretty freely without needing to square it. Your matchups, perhaps grip or such are not allowing you to freely move through without needing to put on the brakes and square. I'd have to see your swing to give you the best possible feedback. Have you looked into joining my online academy? milolinesgolf.com

[@robrodgersse]

This is the danger of having great players describe their swing only by feel. They are describing how THEIR swing FEELS to THEM. While this might be interesting, it's probably not that useful, unless that particular feel resonates with the swing of the player taking in the info. Real vs feel is still true for great players. It's akin to taking someone else's prescription drug. What saves them, could possibly kill you.

[@IverKnackerov]

No, thats just you. Its really useful to know this stuff

[@chriswillis7154]

Love all these 'new' instructors who have unknowingly been teaching moe norman moves are now discovering his genius. The 'shallowing of the clubhead' is pure Moe Norman. He described the feeling as putting the clubhead in his pocket. Apparently, Hogan and Norman got this from Ted Williams. As shown in this video great baseball hitters understand this. Let the clubhead drop the opposite direction as your turn and like magic it will square up.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Moe was a true savant!

[@Donkey0Brain]

Well, neat; but is it "better" - Do you use this swing? Why/Why Not; Would you recommend it for a weekend golfer? (someone who might get to practice only 30 min a week, play once or twice) Thanks!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

I work with students on this daily for good reason 👍

[@PaulAltonji]

Milo great video and just subscribed to your website. Understand the basic point about the right arm relative to the left arm in the downswing but looking at the Ben Hogan swing you posted, it seems to me that something more is at work there. About midway into the downswing, Hogan's golf shaft seems to suddenly steepen suggesting, to me, that he is dong something with his arms (hands) to make the club tumble out (relatively) compared to your or Norman's swing. Can you comment?

[@MiloLinesGolf]

instagram.com/tv/Cnai-cMo0B5/?igsh=MXB5enhhcTJvaXVuMw== I don’t see the shaft changing planes

[@marcusbutcher3433]

Great video. My only problem is i hit it 2 fairways to the right. please ... how to square the face now. Without rolling. downswing opening forearms. cant release it enough. Thanks

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks for watching! I'd have to see your swing Marcus to give you the best possible feedback, but I don't feel like I have to square the face as it's already aligned early. Have you looked into joining my online academy or taking a lesson so I can work with you? milolinesgolf.com

[@rondziuk3]

Milo, The biggest thing that prevents me from doing or even trying this is how open the face appears to be in the downswing. I've been taught and trying to have the face fairly square to the path. What am I missing? Thanks so much! Ron

[@MiloLinesGolf]

My face really isn't that open in this video, it's an illusion. I employ a strong lead hand grip as well and minimize face rotation. Maybe this video can provide further context: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYnHdJ6og9GjsK8 ...otherwise we cover this more on my website at milolinesgolf.com.

[@robertlozano6546]

Milo . Do you start the side bend from the top!?

[@geoffhunt7965]

4:20-4:40 was helpful to see and hear your description. Thanks again.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Glad it helped!

[@Tito_1982]

I’ve heard the steering wheel analogy but sometimes hearing the same move explained a different way resonates more. Turn the steering wheel to the right or a feel of the baseball analogy. Train the feel is key!

[@brianfox2524]

Byron Nelson was an incredible ball striker who later was instrumental in the careers of Ken Venturi and Tom Watson among others. He often referred to his secret move as feeling that he was tucking his right elbow into his right side on the downswing. Different ways of saying the same thing.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

A lot of greats have talked about that right arm in detail. Thanks for sharing and watching Brian!

[@navtej1313]

Trevino belongs in your video.. Awesome Job. Appreciate

[@MiloLinesGolf]

We have one coming out with him soon!

[@quantumpotential7639]

I don't believe any more training videos are necessary. After this classic you can pretty much retire with complete satisfaction knowing you cracked the code and have delivered upwardly of 2.7 billion golfers from the sins of the past, providing us all with the keys to the inner universe. You can do the Mic Drop and ride off on your horse towards that's beautiful mountain and meet with the Elohim who gave us the game of golf. Thanks 😊 for all your help towards not just for golfers all over the planet, but man kind.

[@Les-vp8si]

Perfect timing Milo, as a few pull hooks have been spoiling my score lately. Thanks mate.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Glad to help

[@maxsmart8954]

Secret???? really golfers have been making that move for hundreds of years!!!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

We've found many teach and train the opposite, plus it's KZbin, to provide content our followers value and get eyes on it we still have to use some bit of a flashy title and thumbnail. You are 100% correct, there really are no secrets at this point, nothing new under the sun.

[@kmdplumbing5351]

Wow this is amazing 🤩 Thanks a million ❤

[@MiloLinesGolf]

You’re welcome 😊

[@BobSimmons-y6i]

As one of the best 80 yr old golfers currently in the world today I agree

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Glad you liked it and thanks so much for the watch!

[@arnaudmaurin3667]

So what you say is basically the opposite of Mike Malaska who also refers a lot to baseball. Would love to see a video of the 2 of you together.

[@jasoncarter541]

Great vid as always. Check out Gerry Hogans book the Hogan manual of human performance. If you could do a review of it would be awesome. Thanks for all your doing for us choppers

[@tinytoons2517]

Thanks Coach Milo . . always looking sharp and fit, amigo.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Gracias amigo

[@WereAllThatBored]

The only way I've been able to get close to this is by squeezing my right armpit during the back swing. When done right the sound off the face is un real compared to a disconnected flip at the bottom.

[@lawbinson]

I wish what I practice in static poses or slow swings translated to my actual swing.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

It can be a difficult process to bring about change at full speeds, but exaggeration and slowing down is critical in my experience.

[@wadakanade6193]

【１日のslow shadow swingは500 swingで十分ですね｡懸垂も毎日練習して下さいね｡】

[@Sweatyoldbag]

Shot a 71 with this feeling no joke how good moe Norman was with his feels on the downswing

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Awesome!!

[@ronnyr9760]

Misleading! The club face is entirely open.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Not for me! With grip matchups, Hogan did need some more squaring, flexion and supination in lead wrist into impact, but with my strong lead hand my face is actually not open. It's just an illusion and the feel I am exaggerating here probably leads you to believe that.

[@thomassmith878]

I like what I’m seeing I can see out of right eye the butt of the shaft pointing At about 45 degrees half way down in the downswing.momentium square the club.

[@bobkirkwood2992]

It appears that the feeling in the right arm is similar to skipping a stone on water

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Sure

[@wadakanade6193]

【#Ben Hogan.も鞭の様にdown swing.をして居る事実ですね.】

[@rrb79]

Good video, but I’d like to hit high towering shots.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

High is easy.

[@steveperry1344]

milo, is the right arm coming down inside kind of causing the body to jack knife in a squatting motion and not extend early, is that what i'm seeing?

[@obus4186]

Pointing the end of the club shaft at the ball on the downswing will create this angle and under movement. You also want your shoulders rotating on the same plane going forward as it did going back.

[@OfCourseICan]

My first bet expires September 14 and I have 3 others expiring by November 7. As I have said I have been laid up in hospital and also playing in and winning a board event: soaking up valuable time. But I will get there! My proposal is this: take me on at NO Charge, study my swing, map out a concise training regime and when I get to single figures use me as a marketing partner. I look forward to working with you Milo.

[@quantumpotential7639]

If you board an alien 👽 golf cart you will be touched by the gods who'll transform your psyche into Ben Hogan's resulting in you qualifying for the 2025 Masters. The only thing missing is you putting the right glove on. Do not blow it. This is a tap in. You got this!! I'll be looking for you on TV next year as you round Amen Corner on Sunday afternoon at Augusta holding a comfortable 28 shot lead. The Green Jacket is yours, IF you practice that is all that is being taught here.

[@rickrocketts183]

That feeling of turning the basket while rotating is super helpful. It’s counterintuitive to turn it that direction instead of toward the ball, but makes a massive difference.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

For sure!

[@Dr.HaroldEugeneVannII]

Good information. Thanks for sharing.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks for watching! If I can ever be of further help to you in learning to Swing Like an Athlete, please do check out my website at milolinesgolf.com for in-person or online lessons, golf schools, or to become a member of my Online Academy.

[@tedwilliams4833]

Thanks Milo for another great video in a stream of videos that have led me to transform my swing in a couple of months - would it be okay if I pasted the link to my 8-min YT video here where I hit some shots and demonstrate a couple of drills? It's entitled "Body Rotation in Golf Swing to Propel Clubhead to Ball with Lag and Zero Club Shaft Twist + Drills". I'll wait to hear from you - thanks!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Go for it! If I can be of greater help, please do check out my online academy at milolinesgolf.com. Happy New Year!

[@tomb4060]

Why does this seem so completely different from what Pete Cowen teaches.. It's amazing how different instructors swings look and what they teach to keep the clubhead square.

[@goFourward]

How is it completely different? This elbow move seems similar to Cowen’s loading of the trail shoulder, maintaining the wrist angle on trail wrist, and rotating the body to square the face. I think he just talks about it differently.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

He’s a great coach. We all see and feel things slightly differently though the majority of the greatest players ever have these elements in their swings, there are however some outliers.

[@bonjovi7120]

There are many ways to hit a golf ball……

[@quantumpotential7639]

No there isn't. This is the ONLY way. I dum see the light. Trust me.

[@bonjovi7120]

@@quantumpotential7639 you clown

[@domenickpalmiotto2823]

This is great, but doesn't Malaska teach to "turn the steering wheel" the other way?

[@MiloLinesGolf]

@@domenickpalmiotto2823 for sure and on that point we don’t agree.

[@domenickpalmiotto2823]

@@MiloLinesGolf Wow very interesting. I would like to hear what other teachings you guys agree on or don"t. You guys both explain your teachings very well and make both sound very compelling and logical.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

@@domenickpalmiotto2823 I was Mike’s assistant for many years and we agree on most things especially the crossover of other athletic movements. I taught turning the steering wheel the other way for a time and saw how that concept affected the swing as a system and decided it went against how I want to move as an athlete so I returned to my roots.

[@OfCourseICan]

Another brilliant lesson where the theory is practically demonstrated. Grateful Aussie.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thank you sir!

[@scottstepien9238]

Moe actually called that move "The Master Move" referring to his "Vertical Drop and Horizontal Tug." The "Feeling of Greatness" was his pure ball strike at impact.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

You are correct, the master move brought about the feeling of greatness haha.

[@K18-o2v]

What about the hands and arms at contact and the follow through

[@michaelpaoletti333]

The light bull went off today with this technique. The biggest difference…ball flight. The “pushing up and away” just clicked. Thank you for sharing.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Great to hear Michael!

[@bjmgolf3651]

Excellent video highlighting the traits of all good ball strikers on the downswing and at impact ! Well done !

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks for watching!

[@LabradoodleTofuBoy]

Thank you! Perfect timing. I am an athlete muscular more than fit. I have been struggling with this. I will re-watch this & practice until it becomes natural. Rn, I'm stuck once I'm up lol. I know it's all about the hip & body turn to hit clean & stronger.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

If we can be of any further help, you know where to find us! milolinesgolf.com

[@mydogdidit]

I've watched a bunch of your videos, Milo, you are an excellent teacher and communicator. I love this one, borrowing from Ben and Moe to drive it home. I'm going to the driving range!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks for watching and keep me posted on the results!

[@sleddog8]

I love the basket drill. Thank you also for the baseball analogy. I am a softball coach and that really worked for me. Staying connected seems like another common denominator between the two swings.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks so much for watching and glad you enjoyed it!

[@habitualflipper5640]

This is a really interesting feel that has helped in my last few practice sessions. I've been struggling with low point issues, high launch angles, and over drawing the ball. This feel seems to help with all of those things. It does feel like the club is wide open though coming in from P5 to P6, do you ever experience that? Trackman is reading it as a straight ball flight, so I'm going to stick with it!

[@MiloLinesGolf]

For many the feeling of the center of mass laying down feels like it’s opening the face but if the wrists are working correctly, it’s not actually opening relative to the ark of the swing

[@stevechen3879]

I have been playing golf for forty years, and you just open a window for me. Thanks so much. Your video is very simple, no BS and easy understood. You are the best.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Thanks so much for following along Steve!

[@roslanghaffar399]

This guy doesnt know how his body works....nobody can swing like him...incomplete concept

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Elaborate, this is just one video talking about one movement pattern. My body may be a little old now, but I think I have a pretty good idea of how it works and how to utilize it for a most dynamic golf swing.

[@OfCourseICan]

I keep coming back to this video; it's priceless. If I Learned this 40 years ago I would have been a scratch marker easily! I'm a 71yo and down to 9 from 21 6 months ago : currently off 14.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Woohoo!

[@quantumpotential7639]

This is the highly protected and jealously guarded occult science that the pros have deliberately kept secret from us hacks for centuries. But things are beginning to leak out by serious whistle blowers like Milo who are taking big time risks to lead the charge to help the masses break par. Protect this man's life at all costs for his teachings could bring down the entire $500 Billion golf teaching industry and jeopardize their cartel monopoly. If Biden can award the Congressional Medal of Feeedom to Nancy Palosi then clearly Milo deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for this masterpiece. 💪