Milwaukee M18 FUEL 12'' Miter Saw With CUSTOM Packout Stand Setup!

[@Aepek]

Vince, liked the vid. 10:04 While you were saying tolerances, I’m shouting at screen, looks about a 32nd or so😂 Don’t think would interfere with “work”; as most ppl doing carpentry work, take stuff like that into account, imo (least I do. It’s also why before cut a production piece, start w/ scrap to text fitment; even if using my everyday saw....) Gotta question, or 3, lol. Was this saw delivered, if so, was it delivered in the box (or was the box inside a shipping box....as should be for “protection”), & how was the “state” & process of the delivery(had to sign)? Would like to see Milwaukee (& other Tool brands), take a page from Tech companies & ship tools w/ the better high density foam....as these tools aren’t cheap, & like em to arrive undamaged 💪🏼 10:23 Have done that myself BEFORE (not this saw); don’t feel bad cuz😅, cuz your saw at least didn’t end up on the ground like mine😩 Would like to see 4x4 pressure treated or even 6x on this saw. Have seen some issues with that dust guard/shoe rubbing, or hitting the material. Thx for the look. Cheers✌🏼

[@VCGConstruction]

The foam seemed really good and the saw was packed well, but it did not have an outer box, only the product box.

[@VCGConstruction]

The saw was shipped to me

[@VCGConstruction]

The dust chute will interfere with material as well as the fence if the fence isn’t move out. I must say the dust collection is stellar!

[@Aepek]

VCG Construction Bothers me when they don’t put in shipping box, & just slap label on it. Have had Depot do this (& other companies) once in awhile on different tools. Just that, shipping companies, aren’t the most careful with packages😉. Also, leaving a tool on doorstep (any brand) just says....steal me; which, big problem in my neighborhood. Have had large tools put in boxes, & small left in retail box, lol, no rhyme or reason of “what policy” is. Depot actually told me, CS Dept. that all tools being shipped, “Should” be in an Home Depot shipping box, w/ label on the box; AND not on the retail packaging box. Thx for the reply & vid. ✌🏼 #VCGROCKS

[@xenonram]

That was about 10-15 thou. (0.010"-0.015" or 3/256"-1/64" or 0.25-0.38 mm) No one is capable of taking that into account when cutting wood on a miter saw. You touch the wood with clammy hands and the wood will move more than that. (Hyperbole) How would you take that into account? Put an aluminum can shim under the other end of the wood?

[@wr3ckn89]

Ill stick with my Flexvolt miter saw. Dewalt does miter saws right, plus the option to go corded if need be is a huge plus.

[@natejackson9139]

Ben Phelps that is a nice feature that Milwaukee should adopt.

[@louis3998]

Dewalt 100 percent all the way.

[@jodywaho8718]

I have Dewalt too, but the Milwaukee locking mechanism on the mitre is far superior than my Dewalt screw type on my model....

[@wr3ckn89]

@@jodywaho8718 none of the new Dewalt saws, have a screw lock for the miter.

[@OmarGarcia-bi7jq]

Ben Phelps just to understand better, so you r saying that you can used cordless or corded ??

[@MattEllermets]

Sticking with plug in miter saws due to automatic shopvac relay control. Bought the 10" m18 miter but returned it because I didn't like kicking the dust collector on and off manually for every damn cut!

[@MattEllermets]

Somebody should make one that charges the battery if you plug it in, and has 120 volt pass through output that is only hot when you hit the trigger. Then you could use it inside and not actually have the delay of the shop vac relay. And you could also use it outside in battery mode with no dust collection

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Mounting plate for the miter saw to connect to the packout system is a great idea vince

[@wild_away]

Hope they develop one soon

[@anthonybell7537]

VCG u should also do bosch axial glide 12 in dual bevel miter saw or hercules 12 in dual bevel miter saw

[@JoryValley]

Received this saw for Christmas this year. Replaced my corded dewalt 12” sliding double bevel that I’ve been rockin for the last 20 years. So far I’m loving it. Turned the dewalt into my rough cut saw and keeping the Milwaukee set up for precision cuts equipped with the diablo ultra finish blade. Put that included Milwaukee blade on my rough cut saw 😉 also love the shadow line. Way better then a laser; always accurate even with different kerf sizes. The table and fences can be adjusted but nice when they’re good out of the box.

[@realrecognizesreal2920]

How about a demo on crown molding cuts to see how the fence being off affects it

[@mattallen1660]

It is amazing how far tool technology has come it’s honestly exciting for us tool nuts. Great video man.

[@Norwegianwoodworker]

I acctually just attached my old ELU saw to the Packout last week. Downloaded some 3d parts on Thingiverse and attached them on a bit of plywood. Works great. But I hope Milwaukee will come out with some drawer boxes. I keep my tools in the boxes on site to have control, and lifting the saw on and off all the time is a hassle. But over all i am happy. Since i have the 3d machine, it cost me 2$ :) Love the saw, and thanks for the video. Have a nice day.

[@mmike76]

Check the run out. How much slop in the blade.

[@ryanmarshall9146]

I like this type of video thanks for showing! I do think Milwaukee should have offered a Battery /Corded option like DeWalt especially for that price.

[@whatsittoya3075]

@VCG construction those 2 screws on the handles, could those be your micro adjustments for level?

[@marvinbenjamin3015]

Am really impressed with the dust collection

[@cajunice3588]

We have 5 different mitresaws at work and we had to modify them all from out the box. We have a variety of them the worst was our cordless dewalt it was an 1/8 off. It's good u checked though

[@kingofthecrease30]

CONGRATS TO VCG ON 178,000 SUBSCRIBERS !!! 👍👍

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks BIG BRIAN

[@hunterwolfe9059]

I like the format. Nice knowing how things come packaged and exactly what's in the box

[@rohaizalmohamad2092]

Oh , oh . He's doubting . . . . . I'll wait for version 2 or 3 . Thanks for the unboxing !

[@JoeZasada]

Good vid. I like the attention to detail in the test that a skilled carpenter can show.

[@jamessullivan2930]

Great Video! Ive Got the 10" Milwaukee and it is by far the best saw I've ever owned. I cut Extrusion Aluminum 24' and 30' lengths

[@CR3DT]

What type of alum extrusion and what blade?

[@mahan122010]

The added threaded holes are for crown stops that can be purchased and added to the saw.

[@mjc8761]

So glad you caught it! Good dust collection thx for the unboxing

[@Keith_Mikell]

I like the format of the video. Especially when you are doing it, Vince. You are naturally a conversation type person who knows how to engage even if its to a camera. You're good at what you do and I cant wait to see whats in store for the future!

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Keith!

[@martinsoto793]

Any format in this channel is great

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Martin!

[@coraleestedile5061]

We need a capture plate from Milwaukee to hold the miter saw as well as the cordless table saw . I use the 4 wheel dolly and have the SAWS SITTING ON TOP TO MOVE AROUND THE SITE I hope Milwaukee comes out with a capture plate to help prevent saws from falling of. As welll a box with drawers

[@princeamongmen7064]

Thanks for the binding tip Vince... no I didn’t know that that fence would bug me a bit can it be adjusted maybe with a hammer!

[@Abrewdog]

That saw would be returned. I retune my miter box after several jobs if it needs it. A fence that is not 100% straight from left to right would make a true tune nearly impossible. I’ve had the Dewalt flexvolt miterbox since it hit the market. To this day still an awesome saw.

[@me7229]

Dude I’ve been waiting for a video like this for a long time! I asked about this over a year ago about pack out vids... It’s finally here! Thanks Vince and Nick

[@bluemantom77]

That's a good idea for stand for the Milwaukee sliding miter saw

[@zacharyrhall55]

The holes on the handles are for crown stops probably?

[@TheNorthlandWorkshop]

I’ve had the 7 1/4” saw for over a year and love it. As far as I can tell this 12” is in between the 7 1/4 and 10” saws in terms of quality with the 7 1/4 being great and the 10” having issues. I like cordless miter saws not for portability but because I don’t have to worry about fighting people for extension cords on the job site.

[@brianpankey2566]

I just got one . Its a beast. I got the table saw also as a deal. I love them

[@MrRcrower]

I work with a lot of aluminum storefront and curtain wall and it’s a pain to get the corded 12” dewalt to make small cuts this saw would be great if it cuts aluminum it would save me a lot of time not having to find a free outlet on a job site and run a bunch of extension cords.

[@aominedaiki8409]

Can you fix the fence?

[@joeindustry]

In my opinion, this is a Business saw, because of the price. A DIYer can do a job just as good with a $200 saw. Thanks for the unboxing and review.

[@chuckmiller5763]

100% correct. for a typical "Henry the homeowner", it wont matter what saw he is using for his weekend crown molding, its coming out the same. I dont play pool, so a $400.00 pool stick will not make me better.

[@TJB1510]

EXCELLENT ~ UNBOXING ~ THANKS VINNY. YOU IS ALWAYS VERY INFORMATIVE.

[@jimquinty5378]

I have been thinking about the stand idea for the top of the pack out for a year and I find it funny that they do sell the extra bracket for the wall mount and all they have to do is reverse it so you could mount a spoil board to it and bolt the saw. I wonder if it is in the works? It should be...

[@shadowofchaos222]

The mounting plate sounds like a brilliant idea!

[@shigthehandyman]

Highly entertaining and informative!! Great job Vince!

[@bryanmcfarland967]

Hi Guys!!! Where's the Packout stand setup portion of the video?

[@MysticWanderer]

step one: Set the saw on top of your Packout system. step two: There is no step two cuz you done yo! you blinked and missed it :)

[@TheCorpseEmperor40k]

Gotta say great vid and I’m happy to finally hear you say what the channel is for and for people to stop regurgitating their opinions instead of the facts. Thanks for being an informative KZbin channel and keep an eye out for a good deal on these 12” mitersaws

[@carlosvogrincic4852]

Hey vince n vcg, do you have a vid of the m18 fuel 7 1/4 miter saw?

[@VCGConstruction]

Sorry we do not

[@carlosvogrincic4852]

@@VCGConstruction 😥 , ok...ty for all the great work, maybe one day we'll see one 🤔😃

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

For 899 dollers the fence should be perfect

[@VCGConstruction]

I agree

[@bloodsongsToolreviews]

Well over a normal saw it’s battery operated so plus 200 it says Milwaukee so add another 150 the battery and the changer is the the other 100 buks

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

@@bloodsongsToolreviews your math equals 450 not sure what your getting at but okay

[@bloodsongsToolreviews]

Antonio Claudio Michael if it wasn’t Milwaukee I’d bet it would be 450 dollar’s cheaper

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

@@bloodsongsToolreviews I doubt it the dewalt flexvolt is up there around the same price tag but I get your point

[@davidrosing5788]

Vince, If you get the 48-22-8431 low profile small parts organizer, remove the lid, lid latch hardware, and trays, you can then bolt that to the bottom of the saw. That will then latch onto the top of your Packout stack. It's $40 @ HD

[@davidrosing5788]

Or, if it fits better (and I did this with my Husky tool tote for my custom half-width Packout stack) , bolt the saw into the Packout small parts organizer lid, then at least you still have storage under the saw. Then the saw will latch onto the Packout stack and unlatch like a regular Packout system when needed.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

It comes with a very nice blade

[@cognitive-carpenter]

How easy is it to adjust .x degrees off zero? I find some saws have the dedent at zero that doesn't allow fine adjustment, right?

[@VCGConstruction]

If the fence is off equally from left to right the adjustment the the miter scale is fairly simple. That was not the case with the saw we have.

[@cognitive-carpenter]

@@VCGConstruction too bad

[@gmill0188]

Hey just curious. Why don't you guys ever test Ingersoll Rand power tools?

[@VCGConstruction]

Hello Baby Yoda

[@Edgardocelectric007]

I have the ten inch and I love also was off a bit but I was able to adjust it, no reason the 12 “ can’t be also adjusted can expect perfect out of the box when you take shipping and bouncing around warehouses and delivery to store or shipping company. Not exactly a small box

[@stephenleepmg113]

Cool saw. Thank you for the look see. Price is a bit steep. I have to replace a couple my saws this year. At $900.00 I think I would go Makita only because I have had Makita saws for 30 + years and I think Makita is a better built saw. Also for what I do corded stationary saws are fine. As a side note, I have a 6 1/2" German Kapex miter saw. It is the Mercedes of saws and I like my 25 year old Craftsman better LOL. Thanks again Vince. Awesome video sir.

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Stephen, we appreciate your feedback

[@wolverinegnr]

How does it cut Aluminum?

[@robertlinell8467]

Have you tested the Dewalt flexvolt

[@shyamvanwanzeele2278]

does it trikker the vacuumclener?? when you work with batterie

[@gioc714]

Will it cut a vinyl record post 5” X 5”?

[@mariacarneglia8483]

Good job as usual. Keep up the great videos! 👍🧰👍

[@VCGConstruction]

❤️

[@josephmalinowski6817]

That's the only reason why I went with the DeWalt corded table saw and chop box because I believe they are stationary tools and basically once you set them up that's where they stay for most of the day if not the whole day if Milwaukee came out with the same thing at the DeWalt with the battery cord combo I want to purchase the Milwaukee but the reason why is I believe those tools should have full power all the time

[@mikenowacki6813]

Those extensions you installed would make good carrying handles

[@usplusfive5968]

Does the fence not have two adjustment screws on it to micro adjust the fence on one side or the other to square to the blade and other fence? As you say 1/32 over 4 inches is amplified to 3/32 at blade full cut capacity. A 1/16 with finish carpentry is make or break some times. I just bought the dewalt dw779 and it has two fence adjustments screws on each side. If Milwaukee doesn’t have these then that’s an unacceptable tolerance, and the reason dewalt beats Milwaukee.

[@joenason6423]

Can you not make adjustments if the blade is out?

[@mikewood8181]

Does the miter saw stand fit this saw?

[@michaelsaville8243]

I fastened a rapid charger to the back of my bottom box n it fit perfectly surprised they don't them an option than clip on and off

[@dalstars24]

I will stick to my new but cheaper kolbalt minor saw.. but this one sure is beautiful.

[@danduncanson4222]

Vince brother I always enjoy your reviews. It would.be awesome if you did one on dialing in this saw. A true setup if you will. Focus on the saws features. As far as the set up goes simply rip a piece of 1/2" sheet good melamine works great. You want one long rip to the maximum crosscut width that the saw is capable of cross cutting and another long length that the saw is capable of cutting nested vertically vertically.push the melamine up against the flat surface of the fence and check that the fence is true, cross cut that piece @ 0° flip the right side over after cutting and push the materials back together. Make adjustments to the preset lock locations until there is absolutely no gap. Lock it down tight and that saw will never need to be adjusted ever again. Repeat this process with the nested material at 0° lock it down when one side is flipped and rejoined with no gap. Then set your stops bang on at 45°on the bevel cut nested @45° left bevel cut flip one side and join on a flat surface adjust stops if needed repeat again on the right bevel. If you take the time on a brand new saw like this to dial it in to perfection it will be true for the life of the saw. Most all of the saws on the market need these steps done to ensure perfection regardless of the make of the saw. I am a yacht Joiner by trade and this method is the key to dialing in your saw before cutting heavy hardwood crown moldings and fine woodworking

[@roccoreid2842]

Looks like a nice saw. I think I would pass on the Packout mod for a few reasons. I think it could make rolling it too awkward and top heavy. And not having it on a mobile miter stand means you end up having to make do with whatever the environment provides (some of which provide nothing but ground or floor space, which is not efficient and a pain having to go to the floor every time). If the Packout was expected to be "the saw stand", that brings additional issues, like opening up any of those boxes. Also, I wouldn't want dust and crap all over my Packout so that it can find it's way inside the boxes. And something else to consider is that when you have a miter stand, the saw is "permanently" fastened to it (probably for the life of the saw), and so we can just fold and roll without worrying about taking the saw on and off. But with the Packout mod, you would have to frequently mount and unmount the saw, and while that in itself would get old really quickly, you would also be putting the saw at risk of being damaged. For example, you just set the saw on top without "clicking" it in, because you plan on taking it right back off in a few minutes. But that few minutes turns into 2 hours, because an employee just sidetracked you onto something else more pressing. Then, when you finally get back, you forget that the saw isn't fastened in and you grab the handle of the Packout, tilt it to roll out, and the saw slides right off and drives it's metal parts right into your forearms or hands, and possible crashing down right onto the floor, ground, or pavement. It looks cool though, with all the additional red. :)

[@Edgardocelectric007]

For sure would like to see more maybe showing how to make it more precise but a pack out attachment would be a great 💡 idea also while I am writing this since you have Milwaukee’s ear sort of speak and maybe they will do it how about a pack out socket set with 1/4,3/8 and 1/2 drive sockets just an idea since I do service electrical always needs to return to my truck just for my socket set

[@davidcavuto]

Great reviews thank you! I would love to see cuts through framing 2x6s, pressure treated framing lumber, 5/4 decking and 4x4s. Looks like you got good results so far, but I'd like to see how it handles a challenge!

[@VCGConstruction]

I think it would be best suited for those tasks, I’ll make a video!

[@arnoldlayne1424]

At 8:12 I bet those screws are for a crown stop attachment.

[@ericbrookhart5780]

Love the content! Just bought the 12” Dewalt flexvolt sliding miter saw! And the flexvolt table saw! Happy Friday @vcg!

[@JohnTindale]

Another great vid, Vince. I'm an HVAC guy who does a little carpentry on my own house. Love that saw, but I don't think I can justify the price.

[@davehart817]

I got the 10" on Black Friday for $399 CND so like $295USD, worth every penny(if you already have the battery system)

[@josephbrauer2573]

Way to keep Milwaukee honest . I more interested in the vac pac . Keep the education coming . thanks for this one V .

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Joseph, we appreciate it!

[@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet]

Thanks for the vid @VCG Construction. This will have to be a 2020 write off. Gotta have a "back up" ya know. Just incase one of the ol' sexy flexy's go down again. Can't ever have too many tools. 😎 You should be able to dial that thing in 100%.... The only saw we haven't had to really spend time on out of the box was a flexy 12" double bevel compound Non-sliding. A couple quick adjustments and it is sitting on perfection level 100. The flexy sliders were out probably close to the fuel you have. Dewalt is always a couple degrees out in the bevel. No matter corded or cordless. Easy fix though. Fence + minor Filing = problem solved on the fences. How about a M18 FUEL vs FLEXVOLT miter saw TTR? I want the milwaukee to be the best, as I like their battery platform better, and the warranty is a big deal to us. However, DeWalt knows saws. Very well. But Hey..... I'm just glad we're able to run our smaller jobs (additions, etc) and all our builds "pre temp power" completely cordless if we want. In a world where materials are so much higher, skilled employees cost more, insurance is higher, taxes is brutal, etc. And where clients want a home to look like everything on hgtv and Pinterest, and also want to be net zero ready (meaning a high performance, air tight, super insulated home) and want to spend less money, (Not possible unless they downsize big time) us builders and the crew need all the help we can get for efficiency, speed, power, safety, and all around convenience. Building gets a little more fun every time we get a new tool. 😂 Thanks again brother!👍👍👍

[@Amputee4life628]

I'm looking for a mounting plate for it

[@dunner8125]

I can use 10” for this stuff..... what about 2x4 or 4x4

[@jasonbabila6006]

I always check my miter saw to see if the blade is squared to the fence and table before use and make any adjustments if needed.

[@cjedenfield5902]

Looks like another tool I'm goin to need lol

[@bigkz34]

Is there a place to store the tool

[@shadowstorm7]

Love the video format. Unboxing vids are great!

[@renaissanceredneck8884]

We mounted the 7-1/4” saw on the plywood mounting plate so you snap it to the pack out for quick setups. We also mounted the plastic packout plate on top of the miter stand brackets so it snaps into that as well🤯💯

[@TylerWardFishing]

What’s your thoughts on this saw compared to the dewalt flexvolt since you have had some time with it?

[@ericbrookhart5780]

Would like to see a TTR with the sexy flexy! Milwaukee up against the Dewalt. Do a battery run time, see how many cuts you can make on a single charge. And overall specs! Thanks VCG love the content like always!

[@foreman3737]

I personally like the flexvolt. It's the only Dewalt tool I own and I really like it.

[@toddmonterio8139]

Try a pt 2x8

[@kingofthecrease30]

i would like to see a test done on these cordless miter saws where the 12 amp hour battery is at half capacity or less to see how it performs...like 1 or 2 bars left on the battery...is there any drag or less accuracy in the cuts 🤔

[@VCGConstruction]

Not a bad idea!

[@RonBme]

The packout ideal is a great ideal but for the bigger pieces of wood u will need outriggers for the material as well as the legs . Great tool I added it to my inventory I went with the 8inch I believe, I'm an electrician but my hobbies consist of custom woodwork. How do u feel about the price of the leg stand by Milwaukee?

[@jasonpfister3629]

Has there been an answer to the question about the extra holes on the handles ? Is that for storing the handles on the saw ? I have been trying to look up what they are there for but have been unsuccessful thus far. Can somebody help with this ?

[@jasonpfister3629]

Disregard that message. Crown stops are available to mount on the handle in that position. The threaded holes are simply for the locking nut. Can’t believe I didn’t see that immediately but now I know and I hope someone on here can learn the purpose of the slots and holes on the handles. If miter saw is mounted on a stand, there are bottom mounted stops that can be purchased.

[@rowankeltizar5961]

@vcg construction Would you still still recommend this saw to someone looking for a 12in saw for trim carpentry? I've heard such mixed reviews.

[@erickeith6591]

how does the saw hold up when the battery is almost dead? does it slow? or does it just not run at a certain point?

[@VCGConstruction]

The saw “should” shut down when the battery becomes too drained to make an effective cut

[@WashingWizard10]

Was all into this video untill my jaw dropped when I saw that price I'm beyond happy and content with my $79 Kobalt 24v miter saw keep up the great work Vince

[@ErmIDK19]

I feel with tools like this you should hsve the option to use it corded too as you might eventually want to use it full time in a workshop

[@scottkailey1]

Do they make a 10inch?

[@troutwrangler90]

I’d like a follow up with one of those fighting chicken blades

[@VCGConstruction]

EL DIABLO!!

[@shadowstorm7]

@@VCGConstruction dat chicken is kickin!!!

[@louishassell8774]

Yes, great idea with the packout

[@Slkrick]

Vcg!!!! Nice video man! You should make a video on how to adjust the miter saw to be a true zero gapped saw

[@johnaba5683]

I'm guessing them two holes are probably an extra holding clamp to hold the wooden place to free up your hands possibly.

[@ShepherdOfTheSilkies]

I prefer this type of video boss man, thank you for the videos

[@r0me063]

Hey VCG, I love the review and all the detail you look over in your review. Now that you have both the 12” and 10” Milwaukee miter saw, can you compare the same details such as how well the fixed base and swivel base line up? Along with cut quality and things of that nature? Where the previous model built better then the current models?

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

I love this format of video vince

[@thefifthhorseman8886]

This guy is the Billy Mays of power tools.

[@BrandonContracting]

My 10 inch Milwaukee M18 miter saw is 1 degree out of plumb at 45 degrees on the miter table and 0.3 degrees out at 0 degrees on the miter table... Does that make sense? A degree out is a lot in a big moulding. I don't have any issues with my flexvolt miter saw.

[@7vigil100]

Where can I buy that vacuum attachment?

[@RaulGarcia-dx4uf]

Can you try aluminum? I do glazing and might want to get one, but we deal with aluminum

[@saintjproductions]

For these bigger tools I'd think it'd be beneficial if Milwaukee give the option of using a plug/adapter to AC in addition to battery. Similar power connections like the M18 rover Dual power flood light, though the light doesn't have the amp demand like this saw..