Milwaukee Packout Vacuum / 5 Reasons I Upgraded from M18 Gen 2, Has Nothing to do with MORE Suction!

[@JasenRitt]

Awesome video! I’ve been running the two vacuum set up for about 7 months now and couldn’t agree more on the time savings and the smell. The new packout vacuum is so much quieter and convenient with the hose location vs 2nd gen. Have a great weekend!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Yeah, I’ve used some vacuums that weren’t dried out that when you hit that button…. Whewww! Yeah the sound different was more than I expected. I heard it was quieter, but hadn’t seen in person. You have a great weekend too!

[@davewise29]

I just bought the smaller one last night and haven’t even opened the box. Think I’m going to take it back and get the bigger one with some bags. Thank you for a great video

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Your welcome. Even if I wasn’t in Packout, the bags make it worth it for me. I do wish they would have made separate bags for it and the M12 Vacuum instead of a smaller one that fits both. Hopefully their will be an aftermarket bag company come out with some in the future that will be bigger and cheaper. Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment 👍

[@vortre99]

I just bought the smaller one on sale, I'm returning it for the pac out version it's too loud.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

They are pretty similar but the Packout is a little quieter… or mine is anyways

[@kingsteegg]

I appreciate the reviews. I was on the fence about the Packout vacuum. I'm eyebrows deep in Packout. Thanks so much, Morgan.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Your welcome buddy 👍

[@kingsteegg]

@MORGAN'S Maintenance picked it up today and had it hooked up to the sander right away. Thanks again. DRY ONLY!!

[@bretb8799]

Noise and filter bags are huge for me too and they help your motor last longer too. Had my son's M18 gen2 for couple weeks and found it super handy but noisy. I highly recommend STIHL for quiet plug-in shop-vac and MIELE for house vac it barely purrs. I really dislike obnoxiously loud appliances. Vacuums and compressors are the worst offenders.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@bretb8799 bags make a world of difference 👍

[@toddajmoon]

I am so happy I watched your video. You reason number four is my reason number one. I guess I can always use my gen two for wet only.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I like doing that.. saves the time from swapping for different uses 👍

[@rahouston]

you could cut the end of the bag and simply seal it with a long chip clip or the large paper clips to reuse the bags

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I’ve seen people do that 👍… I’m still hoping for an aftermarket bag company to make some.

[@kobie4238]

11:13 you have the same reasons i have. Great video im buying it right now😭. I vacuumed a nasty drain pain and a mouse nest out of the flue snd my vacuum (gen 2) smells horrible still.🤣

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Yeah, there are things that once you vacuum them up…. Thy are now a part of your vacuum forever 😂

[@michaelthompson7570]

love the review with actual use and good reasoning behind it.....be well

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@michaelthompson7570 appreciate it 👍👍

[@KOLD504]

Hey man, here’s a pro tip. Get some women’s panty hose and put it over the internal filter. Cut the pantry hose to length and tie a knot in the end to create a sock. Then, just cover the filter like a sock on a foot. It will stop bigger debris from going into the filter, but it is thin enough to not restrict airflow.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

May have to try that out.. Thanks for sharing the tip 👍

[@InuranusBrokoff]

My dad was doing that in the 70's. Very surprised more ppl dont know about that. Good tip.

[@Gyppor]

Thanks for the video. I like my basic M18 vacuum (gen 2), the biggest beef I have is the hose gets clogged easily. The fitting where it enters the vacuum is the culprit, the opening is quite small. I also dislike the dust bin - who thought that rolling the plastic edge over and leaving a lip to catch dust was a good idea? it's almost impossible to completely empty it, something always stays stuck behind that lip.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@Gyppor the Gen2 is a good Vac

[@APrawks]

When your vacuum is smelly put it under a big box with an aerosol can of car air freshener. They're good for roughly 10 minutes or so and you can easily do several vacuum cleaners.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍. Thanks for the tip

[@Praetor353]

Thank you very much for the video, helped me greatly as I'm trying to figure out which Milwaukee vacuum to buy

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

You are welcome.. glad I could help and thanks for watching 👍

[@Mike-dn4ju]

Got the fuel based on this, it’s amazing. Thank you.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

You are welcome. I really like mine so far.. If a person has Packout, I think it’s for sure the way to go.

[@simonlunt353]

Just seen your video on KZbin about Milwaukee vac’s l have not yet got a vacuum and would very much like one after watching your video it has helped me so much I will have to get both now yes that is going to be expensive but as you said when using your vacuum on wet and it smells bad then you don’t want to be cleaning your vacuum out and like you said it still smells there is a bit of a price difference here in the uk 🇬🇧 the gen 2 is about £105 pounds then the packout is £220 to£335 that’s on line prices 😮so you have helped me out thank you sir I am a big fan of Milwaukee tools and packouts but as always here in the uk 🇬🇧 we don’t get the new Milwaukee for some time and we have to have black packout not red 😢take care 👍😊

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I am a big Milwaukee fan myself… and those Black Packouts look pretty sweet. Glad I could help, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment 👍

[@joelb727]

For the bag, since it's fleece, cut it at the end and just use regular binder clips to close/reuse. It will shrink the size a bit, but it's a viable solution.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@joelb727 👍👍… good idea

[@THETIMINATORTHETOOLMAN]

Really great video I have the dewalt one currently. I will get the red ones at some point

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

The Dewalt is what we had at the place I worked… I did like that it plugged in or took a battery. I wish they would do that for more tools.

[@THETIMINATORTHETOOLMAN]

@@MORGANSMaintenance that’s my favorite thing about the dewalt is that it is dual power

[@jackofblades6736]

If you finish one bag try those dual wire like the ones on donut bags to fold the end and re-use.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I may try something else when I run out of bags. I’m hoping some generic brand starts making them

[@clintonw1055]

Sound x1000. The old vacs are so painfully shrill and loud! Even with ear protection, it was bad. Even on high, the packout is usable without ear pro.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

That and being able to put it on low is even quieter…. I find that works just as good for small pickups

[@mken4740]

Have you used it to inflate anything with the blowing port. Hoping yo use this in my boat for cleaning and inflating tubes, mission mats, stand up paddle boards etc…

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I never have actually. I always have a small blower with me, but hopefully someone else has blown up things like that and can chime in. You would need accessories to fit the hose and what you are blowing up I would assume .

[@wackyweyland8857]

I bought mine ironically for cleaning out cars, but I already have packout boxes, so it fits on the stack.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

It is nice to have a battery powered vacuum for cleaning out my truck too. Works really well, especially with a brush head.

[@wackyweyland8857]

@@MORGANSMaintenance I think that's the attachment I got

[@BruceSWeinberg]

Great explanation and detail. Thanks

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Appreciate it, thanks for watching 👍👍

[@deceptionsdemise]

Having a vac for wet and another for dry is a good idea. It'll cost more but it's worth it.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I feel like it is too. Especially if you run a bag in your dry. Much easier than changing the setup all the time 👍

[@deceptionsdemise]

@@MORGANSMaintenance especially when you vacuum fine dust a lot like I do.

[@markc9871]

I like the hose self contained. I didn't know a leaf blower fit the filter. 👍

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Yeah it works really well to clean it out… just make sure you don’t do it on a windy day or it blows back all over you 😂😂

[@markc9871]

@@MORGANSMaintenance I love brushless motors for most things, less wear, less noise, and ramps up power under load. Unfortunately I think for vacuuming, ramping up is not a desirable feature. I want maximum suction all the time. No need for even a low speed switch either. I believe the Fuel Packout actually delivers less powered when it's not under full load. So while Fuel will pick up boards and weights better because it is forced into maximum load, when vacuuming saw dust I don't believe you are getting full power. Therefore, I love the features on the Fuel Packout, but the brushed M18 is a better general purpose vacuum. JMHO

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@markc9871 it may very well be, I haven’t used it long enough to say for sure. I didn’t have any problems with my Gen 2 sucking up what I needed it to, but I haven’t had any problems with the Packout one either. My dry pickup is typically just service call type dust. I don’t use either of these vacuums on big jobs. If I wasn’t using Packout in my Truck… and more than anything if the Packout didn’t use the bags… I would have probably just bought another Gen 2 for my second Vacuum and saved some money. It has not failed me at picking up anything (unless the filter is clogged) Appreciate your opinion. You make great points that could help someone make the right decision for them 👍

[@sf8126sf]

Thanks for the great video. Have you tested the M12 Utility Nozzle on the M18 Packout Vacuum.? Milwaukee claims compatibility, but a significant number of online reviews report low suction when paired with the M18 Packout vacuum and unreliable connection with the hose. I’d REALLY like a powered brush head for my Packout vacuum….A review on this pairing from you would be helpful. Thanks!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I haven’t tried it, but have thought about getting it. I will look into it 👍

[@kendallas3705]

I just bought one a couple weeks ago. I am not having any luck finding the bags tho. On amazon they are 45 bucks for the 3 pack and they dont show up in HD site. If I dont find em soon its going back. lol

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Did you click the link in my description? It took me a bit of searching to find them on HD too. They may be out though. I ordered mine before I even bought the vacuum because it said they had 17 left… and only 3 of the wet foam filter. I just checked and it says out of stock… ToolNut and Great Lakes Power Tool had them… but you have to pay shipping… that’s always a NO for me. I’m hoping a bag company starts making them, and maybe bigger. I get some for my Festool that are not named brand and they work great.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

There are some on EBay for around $23… might get you buy until they come back in stock. Personally I feel Milwaukee is bad about coming out with tools and not having enough accessories for the tool.

[@georgedavall9449]

Hella good video and review! I’ve always loved my original 2 gallon M18 vac, but recently, the battery mount for the M18 side disintegrated as I was putting a battery in! It was weird! Shattered into pieces like glass. I am currently in process of trying to warranty it, so in the meantime, I picked up the GEN 2 version, as I needed one like now. I was able to get it with some weird bag that works with the bigger M18 Vac on wheels. Home Depot had it on a hack, so I returned the bag, and the cost was right at a $100.00. Your reasoning is sound. Ive never liked to mix then up either. Man, that smell is nasty! One reviewer noted the GEN 2 had a little more CFM’s when it came to water lift, so you’re on the right track! Now I will be looking to buy the Packout Vac. Thanks a lot Pal! 🙄😆 Good content! 👍✌👊

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Thank you! I have nothing bad to say about the Gen 2. I have used it a bunch and it works like a champ. Funny you mention that bag, I was just looking at that on eBay thinking about getting it for all my Air Tips 😂. We had a shared vacuum that someone used to clean out some drains… then didn’t clean it, or dump it.. it made that vacuum unusable. It was like death every time you turned it on.

[@georgedavall9449]

Thanks for reply! Get the M18 Gen 2 Vac, with the bag, if that promo is still on? Return the Vac, bag will only be like 43 - 44 dollars and change? Good deal! Take care

[@biehledanxc5287]

well those m18 w/d vacs look good 2 have but my m12w/d i like 2 use when you need 2 cleanup mess

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I never have bought the M12… my buddy has it and likes it.

[@jamesazzarella5721]

Damn i just got my gen 2 vacuum and now i have to get the packout vacuum bc u made good points i didnt think about lol Question are the hoses the same length or is the pack out longer???

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

They both say they are 6’ long. I haven’t measured them, but they seem similar.

[@Stefan_Kawalec]

As for now I cannot convince myself to get battery powered vacuum for work. I have one of those small vertical vacuums, but I use it only at my place. As a Makita user I don't want to get into another battery platform, but I also use Systainers. I'll just wait when Makita makes Systainer-compatible vacuums. One of those things hardy anyone tells you when you get your shop vac or any job-related vac, is that you need at least two vacuums. Usually bigger and dirtier multi-purpose one and another smaller, cleaner, power-tools orientated. Additionally it won't hurt to have one or two cordless vacuums. It's praiseworthy that you make really thorough yet compact reviews and you always leave parts numbers for accessories.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

There are times the battery is convenient, but most of the time I am by power. I had a Dewalt one previously that allowed both a cord and battery as an option. It would be nice if more companies did that. Yeah, for corded I have the Festool for use with tools or drywall sanding… then I have a large cheap Ridgid for the nasty. I have converted my wife over to my old 18v Bosch vacuums on our hard floors and she loves them…. That then made me need to get my “Milwaukee Vacuums” since she uses them all the time 😂

[@Stefan_Kawalec]

@@MORGANSMaintenance Makita has some hybrid models, but right now I'd need something smaller and stackable. Yep, there's no better home vacuum than the shop vac. They just work so much better that their "residential" counterparts. And are usually cheaper, last longer and you can buy bags or accessories 10 years later. Not to mention removable batteries. Whereas most of home vacuum cleaners last a year or two. If by any chance you use it longer, there's a problem with consumables. And if it REALLY lasts long, it costed you an arm and a leg to buy (yes, Dyson, I'm talking to you).

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@Stefan_Kawalec 😂 I see those Dyson’s “on sale” every once in awhile and think.. still no!

[@Stefan_Kawalec]

@@MORGANSMaintenance Dyson makes really good vacs, but not $700 good. Even Festool is cheaper.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@Stefan_Kawalec and if Festool is cheaper than you…. That’s saying something 😂. I will say everything Festool I have used has been pretty good. I haven’t bought any of it new at full price… but I have liked them a lot for what I paid for them. Not sure I’d pay full price for them.

[@wim0104]

I love the older gen2: all compact and ready to tumble.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

The Packout ended up being smaller than I expected… my Home Depot doesn’t display many tools. You are right about the Gen 2 being good in that sense. It’s why I like it better than Gen 1.

[@PaulMikna]

I do too.... I like that the hose is protected in my van. Works great too!

[@PTBKoo]

I wonder if we could use it as a container if we use the filter bags? I could put some cleaning supplies in there.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Mine has stayed extremely clean on the inside using the bags… and there is some extra room due to the bags being a little small. I’m not sure if the suction would do anything to them or not, I’ve personally never tried putting anything else in there.

[@ernie8401]

I perfer the old style. I don’t like the vacuum hose being exposed to sunlight and wear. That bendy plastic breaks easyily after sun stress.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I do like the hose being inside myself also. It’s a cleaner look.

[@parts7959]

It would be nice if they made the bags for the gen 2 vacuum. Good video

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Yeah I know. That’s the one thing I haven’t liked about battery powered vacuums. None of my previous ones (of any brand) have taken bags. These bags are small and could be twice a big, but I don’t use these vacuums for large amounts of pickup. I hope they take awhile to fill. Thanks buddy 👍 Oh yeah… I used the cut out tool the other day on some vinyl soffit. It worked pretty good.

[@parts7959]

@@MORGANSMaintenance 👌🏻good to hear, hope to see a review in the future. I picked up a Gorilla 18’ multi position ladder yesterday at the local Depot on special buy for $99.00. Do you have any experience with one of these? My other ladder has a big crack in it so I thought I’d try this.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@parts7959 I have that ladder and really like it. It’s not super heavy like some of the others. The things you push in to fold it out work well too, I have to beat on my Werner ladders. The only one I like better for outside work is the Little Giant with the adjustable legs, but I prefer the Gorilla as far as the ladder. $99 is a good deal.

[@cb2000a]

They need to move on to a flat accordian filter like Festool has. That would leave more room for the bags.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍… that and make bigger bags for the M18 instead of one for the M18 and M12

[@aaronready1]

Seems like somebody could make a 3d print adapter for the gen2 for some 3rd party bags. I just got the gen 2 at Fleet Farm for $99 on sale

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

It’s a good vacuum…. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if someone made an adapter for it either. I’m hoping a 3rd party makes some bigger bags for the Packout too at some point.

[@ggrimm79]

I'm invested in Packout, but I have an M12 hand vac and a corded Rigid small 6 hp vac. Is the P/O vac that much more powerful than the M12 hand vac? It does take me some time to clean up some messes but it's also very light.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@ggrimm79 I don’t have the M12, so I’m not sure. There isn’t a crazy difference between the two M18 versions I have.

[@peterwolf1892]

Yes, I am the only technician at work that has a wet and a dry vacuum. The only way to go.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Agree 👍 👍

[@mfgking123]

Great info, thx

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@mfgking123 👍👍

[@shooter_ric5722]

You can't put bags on the Gen 2?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Not that I know of… I’m sure you might could come up with a way, but it doesn’t have the option built in.

[@Fishingwithandrew28]

Or you could be like me and brought the gen 2 like 3 weeks ago then just went out and got the Packout version

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I like it… I had to spend all that time coming up with a justification in my brain. You were like, “I just want both” 😂😂 👍

[@LuckyWerewolf-yk6wo]

I belive the filters are washable correct?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@LuckyWerewolf-yk6wo you can get a wet washable filter, the regular filter is not… you can blow it out if you want, but it can’t get wet.

[@sleddarcheddar]

​@@MORGANSMaintenancethe manual states you can wash the filter that it comes with, but must let it dry fully before use.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@sleddarcheddar if they say so I guess. I wouldn’t do it. It’s like a paper type filter that came with mine

[@eugenefromguam]

Not sure if i missed it but how long would it last with a 5ah? i tried a 2ah just to kinda figure it out, lasted maybe 7 minutes before vacuum started to show signs of voltage drop

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

To be honest I’m not real sure. I’ve never used it for long enough spurts to put in a 100% new battery and run it till it quits. I probably run it in 5 minute increments. Next time I’m in my garage if I think of it I will get it out and time it for you. They say 30 minutes with a High Output 8.0… my guess is somewhere around the 15 minute mark (on speed 2)

[@eugenefromguam]

@@MORGANSMaintenance Apologies, this was for the older m18 vacuum, actually just returned it a few minutes ago. Didnt last 20 minutes with a 5ah, so I’m gonna wait for the 8 or 12ah battery to go on sale and i might purchase it again with a better battery this time. Hoping the black friday deals will be good this year

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍… yeah the vacuums of all the brands eat up a battery pretty quick. It almost like using a grinder. I’ve started using High Outputs in mine… it may just be a mind game, but I feel like I get more suction

[@eugenefromguam]

@@MORGANSMaintenance You’re not wrong, i noticed the suction power increased with the high output batteries

[@phironhin7349]

Do they both use the same 18v fuel battery ?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Yes they do. I know they will hold up to an 8.0 battery. That’s the biggest I have, not sure about the 12.0. I don’t think the will fit in the Gen 2 Vacuum, not sure about the Packout. Maybe someone else can answer that. I use 5.0 XC and 6.0 HO batteries in mine generally.

[@phironhin7349]

Also do they both use the 2016 filters to?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@phironhin7349 no, only the Packout version of the M18 and the Milwaukee M12 Fuel Vacuum take those filters.

[@WoodyONeal]

less sound because the hose acts as a muffler

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍

[@ciscogamig99]

I would really love 1 but am tooo broke

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@ciscogamig99 it’s a little pricey for the Packout… but it’s an almost everyday tool for me.

[@ciscogamig99]

And I only have m12 so…

[@ciscogamig99]

I am looking for the m12 one on sale

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@ 👍👍. I haven’t tried it, my buddy has one and likes it

[@ciscogamig99]

Ok thanks for taking the time to answer me is really useful and great video

[@MrCravin8388]

The older one sounds like the Bee Gees, the Fuel sounds like Jonny Cash. I have The Bee Gee version.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Yeah. I’ve had no issues with my older one. It’s performed really well as long as you keep that filter clean. Sometimes your just in the mood for Bee Gees… sometimes Jonny Cash.. always good to have options 😂

[@jmstewart2604]

Thank u

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Thank u for watching 👍

[@alf3553]

I’ve been looking at so many of these videos & brands. Your the only one that has showed the filter bag. Ya it is small for the vacuum. But in regards to adding a zipper, what is you tried one of those big chip bag clips. This style of clip kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioa3gXmmntGabK8

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

That might work. I may get one and try when my next bag gets full. Appreciate it 👍

[@luish8056]

I have to point out the bump in quality of your editing, especially the transitions.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I appreciate that…I’ve been learning a little every video. It’s all 100% new to me. Before starting this channel I never really filmed anything before and absolutely never edited anything. I’m also still working with all “free stuff” so I’m limited on what I can do… but I haven’t even figured out what all I can do with the free stuff yet 😂. Again, I really appreciate the feedback and encouragement 👍

[@tedmcdonald3377]

😎🛠️😎🛠️😎

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍👍

[@nicneam]

These reasons are trivial

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I think a bag/no bag is a pretty big difference, the rest it just depends what you do 👍

[@adamb1709]

Skip first 2 min

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Or go to chapter 2… 👍👍

[@roylee9566]

Nonsense...!!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍

[@toddajmoon]

I am so happy I watched your video. You reason number four is my reason number one. I guess I can always use my gen two for wet only.

[@toddajmoon]

should have waited til the end of the video to comment.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Well you hit on both the main reasons 😂